Bill Clinton, Medicaid and the Politics of Poverty

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Former President Bill Clinton speaks in Charlotte, N.C., on Sept. 5, 2012

Buried amid Bill Clinton’s rhetorical smorgasbord on Wednesday night was a short but fascinating passage about Medicaid, the federal entitlement program for the poor and disabled. Here’s what Clinton said:

Now, folks, this is serious, because it gets worse. And you won’t be laughing when I finish telling you this. They also want to block grant Medicaid and cut it by a third over the coming 10 years. Of course, that’s going to really hurt a lot of poor kids.

But that’s not all. A lot of folks don’t know it, but nearly two-thirds of Medicaid is spent on nursing home care for Medicare seniors who are eligible for Medicaid.

It’s going to end Medicare [sic: he probably meant Medicaid] as we know it. And a lot of that money is also spent to help people with disabilities, including a lot of middle-class families whose kids have Down’s syndrome or autism or other severe conditions.

And, honestly, just think about it. If that happens, I don’t know what those families are going to do. So I know what I’m going to do: I’m going to do everything I can to see that it doesn’t happen. We can’t let it happen. We can’t.

Two interesting things here. One, it’s striking to hear Clinton make such a direct reference to the “poor.” National politicians don’t talk much about poverty these days, for reasons underscored by the Romney campaign’s misleading attacks over welfare reform: at a moment when the middle class is reeling, compassion for the poor competes with resentment for the benefits they draw from the government. It’s an extra-tricky topic for Democrats and especially Barack Obama, because poverty is tangled up with race in the minds of voters. Note that Clinton chose to refer to “poor kids,” probably on the assumption that “the poor” just doesn’t move people enough.

And what about the Republicans? To be fair, Mitt Romney’s Tampa acceptance speech did feature this:

Today more Americans wake up in poverty than ever before. Nearly 1 out of 6 Americans is living in poverty. Look around you. These are not strangers. These are our brothers and sisters, our fellow Americans.

But little else about the Romney campaign demonstrates much interest in the plight of the impoverished. And although Paul Ryan — who in Tampa used the same “Nearly 1 in 6 Americans is living in poverty” line, verbatim — cites Jack Kemp as a political mentor, some of Kemp’s former associates note that the late New York Congressman obsessed over the fate of low-income black Americans. Ryan doesn’t have much to say on that topic.

(PHOTOS: The Democratic National Convention)

Clinton’s Medicaid riff was about more than poverty, however. While Democrats aren’t likely to seize on protecting the poor as a central issue, Clinton may have opened an important new front with his reference to Medicaid’s coverage of nursing-home care for seniors. Romney and Ryan vow not to touch Medicare benefits for anyone currently 55 or older. But they have made no such assurance about Medicaid. On Wednesday, Clinton reminded Americans that plenty of seniors — and the middle-aged who are often responsible for them and are stressed about their care — depend on both programs. (More than 8 million seniors are dually eligible for Medicaid and Medicare because of low income or disability.) It turns out that Clinton overstated how much Medicaid spends on this population, but it’s still 39% of the program’s medical-services spending. And it seems fair for Democrats to warn seniors that Romney’s Medicaid cuts pose a direct threat to their benefits. I’d be amazed if we didn’t hear more about this in the home stretch of the campaign — even if we don’t hear much more about poverty in America.

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chowching
chowching

 

People want protection against terrorists and criminals

along with federal healthcare benefits.  But they are becoming too costly, and it is

not possible to have them both. Most say it would be better to take the risk of

being murdered rather than to lose federal healthcare. But some politicians say

cops and soldiers are needed more than the doctors that cure aches and pains.

Commentary Fortytwo
Commentary Fortytwo

My sisters and I, who have no discretionary income were faced with both parents needing long term nursing care at the same time. Without Medicaid we would not have been able to provide the care they needed. It is that simple. How many hard working Americans are able to care for disabled or demented parents in their home, perhaps for years, or cough up $4000-6000 a month EACH for their care? 

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Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

ROMNEY IS NOT A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE EITHER!

According to the Massachusetts Taxpayer Foundation, Romney “proposed four

budgets while in office…each budget increased spending over the previous year.”

. As Club for Growth echoed, Romney’s last budget “was a whopping 10.12% larger

than the preceding fiscal year.”

 Romney didn’t “turn a 3 billion dollar deficit into a nearly $1 billion surplus.” Rather, the deficit was 1.3 billion according to Factcheck.org and he balanced the budget with mostly tax and fee increases with very little spending cuts.

Indeed, Carla Howell, president of the Massachusetts-based Center for Small Government, is blunt about Romney’s record: “Romneyclaims to have cut the Massachusetts budget by ‘2 billion.’ Sometimes he claims he cut it ‘3 billion’….but these cuts were merely budget games….not only did Mitt Romney refuse to cut the overall Massachusetts budget, he expanded it.

Dramatically….Romney initiated massive new spending –without any

prodding.”

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

By Romney’s last year in office, Massachusetts was ranked by the Public

Policy Institute of New York on its Cost of Doing Business Index, as the 4th

most expensive state in which to do business in.  Data compiled by the Tax

Foundation reveals that during Romney’s term, the per capita tax burden

increased from 9.3% to 9.9%, a .6% increase.  In real dollars, the per

capita tax burden increased 1175.71 dollars during Romney’s term.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

Another way to judge a state’s economy is to look at its Gross State

Product and these statistics are kept by the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis.

Between 2001-2005, the percent GSP increase for Massachusetts was an anemic

8.44%, one of the lowest five-years increases in the country – 44th out of 50

states.

We’ll let labor market economist Andrew Sum summarize: “as a strict labor market economist looking at the record, Massachusetts did every

poorly during the Romney years…on every measure  you’ve got, the state was

a substantial under-performer.”

 

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

The Boston Globe business columnist Steve Baily wrote that “there are 40,000

fewer people in the workforce than when Romney took over.”  This view was

echoed by the Boston Herald’s business columnist, Bret Arends, who wrote, “During the four years Mitt Romney was governor of Massachusetts, it had the

second worst jobs record of any state in America…it wasn’t a regional issue.

The rest of New England created nearly 200,000 jobs.”

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

GINGRICH: Mr. Gingrich previewed his line of attack at a Tea Party rally here on Thursday, in an effort to counter the Romney campaign ads that paint Mr. Gingrich as a Washington influence-peddler who earned 1.6 million dollars advising Freddie Mac, which Republicans blame for the housing collapse. “I think someone who owns stock in a place that forecloses on Floridians has a lot of gall to start

raising the issue,”

Mr. Gingrich said. “We ought to find how much money has he made over the years foreclosing on Floridians.”

Mr. Gingrich was referring to a report on Wednesday, which claimed that an examination of Mr. Romney’s personal financial disclosure from last year showed he and his wife owned shares of a Goldman Sachs fund that invested in mortgage-backed securities. It linked the fund to “thousands” of foreclosure proceedings against Floridians.

The tax returns Mr. Romney released this week also showed he held Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac investments.—

"We have to ultimately focus on beating Barack Obama,” he said, “but we’re not going to beat Barack Obama with some guy who has Swiss bank accounts, Cayman Island accounts, owns shares of Goldman Sachs that forecloses on Floridians, is himself a stock-holder in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac while he tries to think the rest of us are too stupid to put together the dots to understand what this is all about.” 

Both Santorum and Gingrich banged on Romney for changing positions the pursuit of winning elections.

AfGuyReturns
AfGuyReturns

Anyone catch the piece at Crooks and Liars?

It's about an interview with Mitt's mom, where she revealed that his dad George was on welfare in the US after immigrating from Mexico.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

FROM GINGRICHMr. Gingrich

previewed his line of attack at a Tea Party rally here on Thursday, in an

effort to counter the Romney campaign ads that paint Mr. Gingrich as a

Washington influence-peddler who earned $1.6 million advising Freddie Mac,

which Republicans blame for the housing collapse. “I think someone who owns

stock in a place that forecloses on Floridians has a lot of gall to start

raising the issue,” Mr. Gingrich said. “We ought to find how much money has he

made over the years foreclosing on Floridians.”

Mr. Gingrich was referring to a

report on

Wednesday, which claimed that an examination of Mr. Romney’s personal financial

disclosure from last year showed he and his wife owned shares of a Goldman

Sachs fund that invested in mortgage-backed securities. It linked the fund to

“thousands” of foreclosure proceedings against Floridians. The tax returns Mr.

Romney released this week also showed he held Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

investments.—“We have to ultimately focus

on beating Barack Obama,” he said, “but we’re not going to beat Barack Obama

with some guy who has Swiss bank accounts, Cayman Island accounts, owns shares

of Goldman Sachs that forecloses on Floridians, is himself a stock-holder in

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac while he tries to think the rest of us are too

stupid to put together the dots to understand what this is all about.” 

Both Santorum and Gingrich

banged on Romney for changing positions the pursuit of winning elections.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

SANTORUM: Oh, look, I think what Newt just talked about with going after Governor Romney's record in Massachusetts is absolutely dead-on. Governor Romney's record in Massachusetts is deplorable. It's not a conservative record. It's tax increases, as he mentioned, $50 a taxpayer-funded abortions in "RomneyCare." There are a whole host of fees and things that the governor put in place that, actually, he even proposed and a Democratic legislature wouldn't go along with some of his tax increases.

So you have a -- that's why I've been somewhat, you know, hesitant to go after his Bain Capital record. I don't want to divert attention away from his horrible record as governor and being a moderate to liberal governor in Massachusetts. That's the record I want -- as Newt said, gun control, abortion, and a very bad record on taxes and spending. Those are the kind of things that I want to talk about here in South Carolina.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/...

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

Under Romney, Massachusetts’ infrastructure accrued a $20 billion deficit of overdue maintenance by the end of Romney’s term, according to the Massachusetts Taxpayer’s Foundation. “When you’re not fixing bridges, that’s a sector not creating jobs,” says Massachusetts Democratic Party chair John Walsh. “It’s foolish because you’re not creating savings, you’re just deferring the spending until problems get worse and the cost gets higher.”

So did Romney, who ran on a promise to improve job growth in Massachusetts,

do anything good on that front? No, and he barely even tried.

“During his time as governor he attempted only one statewide economic development initiative: to incentivize manufacturing companies with a rebate on state income tax,” says Barrow. “It didn’t work. I think he really just wasn’t doing a lot.”

 

In the last few years of his term Romney was out of the state more than he was in the state,” says Bayles. “When he was running for president, the last two years of his governorship, part of his campaign rhetoric was to dump on Massachusetts. He made a conscious decision not to run for governor again and he left office with fairly lousy approval numbers.”

Romney was traveling out of state for part or all of more than 200 days in his last year in office, and jokes about liberal Massachusetts were part of his stand-up routine on the stump. This was precisely the opposite of what Romney promised to do when running for office. At that time he said he would use his business experience and salesmanship to talk Massachusetts up to investors from around the country.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

ROMNEY LIED ABOUT HIS RESIDENCE AS indicated in his tax returns. He was a resident of UTAH, and yet repeatedly assured us that he had filed as a resident of our State. Later he claimed that he lived IN HIS SON'S basement since he had no property in MA. I mean, really?? And, so many mini scandals occurred, and were doused by the Romney team, about his illicit dealings  while he was governor emm... he was and is a sleazy "money at all costs sleaze bag business man" .  He was a lying, ambitious, entitled man. He WRECKED our State, and should not be elected president. Romney does NOT deliver on promises because he is INCOMPETENT.  

 Here  is a more current story about one his numerous sleazebag-- unethical dealings below. 

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The Republican presidential candidate appears to have profited from a

marketing company that was contracted by the state of Massachusetts after

receiving $5 million (£3.2 million) in financial backing from Bain Capital, Mr

Romney’s investment firm.

One of his vice-presidential candidate's brothers, who is a former Bain

consultant, was at the time of the investment a senior executive at the

marketing company, Imagitas, which was co-founded by another former Bain

executive.

Both Mr Romney and Tobin Ryan, who omits his work at Imagitas from his

corporate biography, also apparently stood to benefit from the $230 million

(£146 million) sale of the company in 2005, while Mr Romney remained in office.

Massachusetts law requires that all state employees divest themselves of

financial interests in private sector contracts with state agencies. At the

time, failure to do so could have resulted in a $2,000 (£1,273) fine or a

2.5-year prison sentence. The potential punishments are now stronger.

Asked repeatedly by The Daily Telegraph throughout this week whether Mr

Romney had indeed profited from the company, had been aware of the potential

conflict of interest, or had taken any action to avoid one, his campaign and

Bain Capital declined to comment.

The finding also sheds light on previously unnoticed connections between Mr

Romney’s involvement in the private sector, government and campaign finance.

Imagitas donated tens of thousands of dollars to the Republican Governors’

Association while it was chaired by Mr Romney.

A former Imagitas investor and director donates to both Mr Romney and Paul Ryan, who also received thousands of dollars in contributions from his brother Tobin.

Pro-transparency groups said that Mr Romney should have declared his

interest, and lamented the cycle of cash through business and politics. Melanie

Sloan, of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, said the case

showed that “the problems of money in politics are legion”.

“Mitt Romney should have been extra careful,” said Ms Sloan. “That is part

of the deal in politics. This appears to be a conflict of interest, and he

should have disclosed his stake in a company that stood to gain from its work

for his administration”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

Romney RAISED taxes on businesses, even though while campaigning, he promised that he would not do so.

As governor of MA,  Romney passed a host of new tax and fee increases, hitting the corporate world hard and devastating job creation.   As Peter Nicholas, chairman of Boston Science Corporation, stated, “tax rates on many corporations almost doubled because of legislation supported by Romney.”

The Cato Institute reported that in his first year as Governor, Romney “proposed 140 [million] dollars in business tax hikes through the closing of ‘loopholes’ in the tax code.” As Nicholas explains, “Romney’s tax policies were not helpful for many small businesses…when Romney took many IRS subchapter S businesses in Massachusetts and almost doubled their tax rates, it was an important disincentive to investment, growth and job creation.”.   

As Joseph Crosby of the Council on State Taxation stated, “Romney went further

than any other governor in trying to wring money out of corporations.”

Romney also raised taxes on business again in 2004 and 2005, for a

grand total of 309 million dollars levied upon the corporate sector. He then

increased taxes on business property ), tried to raise taxes on hotels (but was

stopped by the Democrat legislature!) , joined a coalition lobbying congress to

tax internet activity , and supported a tax on out of state commuters.

Nor did Romney fight the passage of higher rates on death taxes.  Moreover,

Governor Romney supported gas tax hikes both for Massachusetts and for the

federal government.  He also proposed a new excise tax on SUVs and a new sales tax on all used cars.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

The top finance advisor to two prior Republican governors said

Romney was distracted by political ambition in the final years of his term.

"The real tragedy of Romney's governorship is that he did not utilize

his full capacity as governor," said Stephen P. Crosby, who served in

the Cabinet of two previous Republican governors and advised the

transition of Romney's Democratic successor. Crosby, dean of the

University of Massachusetts' McCormack Graduate School of Policy and

Global Studies, praised Romney's leadership and business acumen but said

he never delivered on promises to lure jobs to the state."

Kent
Kent

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Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

I have been watching the continued Welfare ads from Romney in my State. Now, I have determined that in addition to running our great Commonwealth of MA into the ground, and showing his total lack of compassion and weakness of character as governor, Romney is so desperate to become president that he has now become a RACE BAITING, LIAR and DESPERATE CHARLATAN!!  o/ Romney!!!

 Romney is running a series of ads criticizing President Barack Obama's decision to waive some requirements of the 1996 welfare reform law. The waivers give states

more flexibility in how they meet the goal of getting welfare recipients back to work. But the Romney ads claim that under "Obama's plan, you wouldn't have to work and you wouldn't have to train for a job. They just send you your welfare check."This is the opposite of the truth. The waivers were requested by five governors, including two Republicans, to increase the effectiveness of welfare-to-work programs.

The Romney ads have been tagged with four Pinocchios from Washington

Post fact checker Glenn Kessler and a "pants-on-fire" rating from PolitiFact. Yet the lies keep coming.Campaigns spin all the time, but we can't recall a more baldly false claim than this one. Why would Romney so brazenly lie to voters he hopes will trust him to lead?

The simplest explanation is because he can. In our splintered media environment, it's tough for voters to keep up with every charge and countercharge. Most people don't look them up on PolitiFact.But another reason is that thesubtext of this ad -- that Obama wants to give the shiftless poor more of your hard-earned money -- is central to the Romney campaign's new strategy, analyzed by The New York Times this week. "In a marked change," the paper reported, "Mr. Romney has added a harder edge to a message that for most of this year was focused on his business and job-creation credentials, injecting volatile cultural themes into the race."Cultural? Racial is more like it. This helps explain why Romney made a BIRTHER joke last week in Michigan, and how he's portraying the $716 billion cut to Medicare spending in Obamacare: "The money you paid for your guaranteed health care is going to a massive new government program that is not for you," one ad says. More

than three-quarters of Medicare recipients are white, compared with less than half of those expected to be helped by Obamacare. A disproportionate share of welfare recipients is African-American (even though there are more whites on welfare than blacks) . And every analysis of this race makes clear that Romney's only chance of winning is to run up his margin among white working-class voters, his

strongest supporters. So Obama's welfare and Medicare policies are portrayed as taking from hardworking Americans and giving to people of color and the poor.

Lacking facts to base this on, Romney makes things up. It is a frightening strategy at a time when Americans need more than ever to pull together."

superlogi
superlogi

How can you take a state from 50th in job creation to 28th at the end of his term and characterize it as running it into the ground.  Well I guess, you'd not only have to be a shyster lawyer but a progressive one at that.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

You are a LIAR, an unthinking hyper partisan dweeb, and a shrill, unschooled buffoon.  ROMNEY WAS INEPT, INCOMPETENT AND UNAPOLOGETIC about his abysmal failure.

I have repeatedly provided you with statistics from our great Commonwealth. Initially, your response was that we were NOW doing well in MA, and also claimed that Romney was working with a Democratic legislature. Both unsubstantiated Falsehoods and baseless Conjecture!!

Romney failed to reduce ANY of the myriad taxes Massachusetts

imposes on its citizens, even though the previous two Republican

governors, William Weld and Paul Cellucci, were both able to reduce tax

rates. As Governor Cellucci confirmed, Romney “did not have any broad-based tax cuts in his four years as Governor.”  Indeed, while Romney raised over a hundred different fees and taxes, the two previous Republican governors signed more than 40 tax reduction bills, even though Democrats controlled the legislature.

Again, let me repeat, Romney was preceded by TWO REPUBLICAN governors who had the same legislature who cut taxes, created jobs and stimulated small businesses. Romney DID NOT. He was INEPT, INCOMPETENT and A SLEAZE BAG LIAR.   Governor Patrick is responsible for pulling us out of the hole Romney the incompetent, uncaring dweeb put us in.

We ranked 47th out of 50 States in job creation, and sometimes ranked 49th. In Romney's last two years in office, he was out of the State 200 times. When confronted with his inability to deliver on his so called venture capitalist skills, HE MADE NO APOLOGY, AND PROVIDED NO PLANS. Consequently, about 220 families left Massachusetts. Romney was not only inept, but he just did NOT care.

He was ranked the second WORST governor by the CATO institute and was harshly criticized by his two REPUBLICAN  predecessors.  I SUPPORTED ROMNEY, and he was so inept, and disconnected that it was humiliating to be a Republican in that State.  

Also, Romney refused to support the Bush tax cuts while governor, and when campaigning for Governor, refused to sign the “no

new taxes” pledge, calling it “government by gimmickry.” He only signed the pledge when he began to campaign for the presidency.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

Haha... I do not drink, I live clean. But do not let me stop you from your drunken revelry. Haha... I laughed till I held my stomach. Obviously, I am endless etc. if I strongly reject and disprove your endless dronning of specious claim from one miserable source. Meanwhile, I have provided you numerous sources.

Romney was a HORRIBLE GOVERNOR, A LIAR AND A DISCONNECTED ENTITLED SLEAZEBAG.  He should NOT be elected President and allowed to destroy our country just as he did to our State in MA.    

 

superlogi
superlogi

You don't have to provide the stats.  I got them from the Washington Post from a Kessler Fact Check.  Have another drink.  It'll help you keep up your endless, mind numbing windiness and  buffoonery.  And, you may want to write the Post and/or Kessler and call them/him the liar as all I did was pass the information along.  Cheers.

Not only mind numbingly windy, but mind numbingly ignorant.

Sue_N.
Sue_N.

The point about Medicaid funding nursing home care needs to be made widely and loudly, especially considering that so much of the GOP base is middle-aged and elderly. In so many people's minds, "Medicaid" equates to "the undeserving, mooching poors." You know, not their kind. But I'll bet many (most?) of them have absolutely no idea that cutting Mediacid means no nursing home for Mom and Dad, or for themselves. R/R certainly won't tell them.

MrObvious
MrObvious

And after the cuts they blame Dems for doing something to the poor and the elderly.

ARTraveler
ARTraveler

Maybe the Democrats need to make a point of explaining that the "empty nest" when the kids leave will be filled by grandma coming back from the nursing so you kids are on your on.  Your room(s) is/are gone.

Stuart Zechman
Stuart Zechman

Michael Crowley:

What did Bowles-Simpson ultimately propose in the way of Medicaid restructuring?

Is Bowles-Simpson's plan for greatly reducing the cost of Medicaid radically different from Ryan-Rivlin?

In your analysis, would you say that Bill Clinton seemed to suggest that the Democrats' plan for restructuring Medicaid differed radically from either Bowles-Simpson or Ryan-Rivlin?

Or did Bill Clinton strangely omit references to national Democrats' consensus on Medicaid reform from his convention remarks?

Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson

It is my understanding that alot of folks DELIBERATELY IMPOVERISH their parents so they can turn them over to the State for nursing home care via Medicaid. There are consultants who go around telling people how to do this. Is this true?   

ARTraveler
ARTraveler

They might want to but the government goes back 5 years and reclaims any gifts made to friends and family members that result in someone being impoverished.  Now if you can plan your stroke 5+ years in advance, you might get by.

Pnnto
Pnnto

"Is this true?"

Probably not, but since you make the claim perhaps you could source it.

Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson

Here is a pretty good summary of the situation from Forbes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ca...

Pnnto
Pnnto

Thanks for the reply.

I did notice that the author made a case against a situation that she couldn't identify. That is to say she made up advice given by an unnamed "financial planner"

Does that person exist? She doesn't say. She just makes a case against government help.

pskog
pskog

I thought everyone knew that Medicaid is what paid poor and even middle class Americans' nursing home bills. Mymother was only in a nursing home a few months before her death, but she was on medicaid. Many, many middle americans cannot manage to care for their elderly parents in their homes and who can afford $4000+ a month for private pay?

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

Even those that have managed to save a few assets must spend them all down in order to be eligible for medicaid. Luxury life, isn't it?

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

One error is that they say there will be no effect on Medicare for those 55 and at the same time promise to repeal the ACA. The problem is that the money Obama took from the non-working Medicare Advantage and other providers was moved to the ACA and covers closing the donut hole for prescription drugs in  Part D and also covers for seniors and all others preventive screenings with no co-pay. It also continues the stability of Medicare for an additional eight years.

Repealing the ACA would cancel those benefits.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

Teh Wagging Finger

...another Clinton legacy.

MrObvious
MrObvious

GOPers want to smack Obama over the false claims about welfare and on the other hand like to cut as deep and hard as possible in any program that would 'benefit' people who live at the margins.

To righties it's all about assigning blame, but they're not offering any help.

ranger99
ranger99

The Republicans have a plan to reduce the number of poor people in this country.  They will either: A. Take away their food and let them starve to death, or B. Take away their access to healthcare so they'll die of disease.

The GOP would gladly slit their own grandmother's throat if it saved them a nickle. They are heartless, greedy, monsters....every last one of them.

ARTraveler
ARTraveler

The  problem of a pandemic without healthcare monitoring if they eliminate ACA and sent grandma home would mean that (1) we will not know as soon as we would now that there is a major issue and (2) more deaths. I would suggest that those who are in the earkly stages of the disease visit some of the upscale vacation spots so we all get to share in their stupidity.  No reason for them not to experience the negative side of the "Republican American" dream.

oldwhiteguy
oldwhiteguy

Ahhh....good catch.  Moreover, yes, any reference to the poor by the GOP would be made only to bolster a failed Obama presidency (as in "more now than ever before").  Other than that, their interest in the poor ends at the guard house at the main entrance to their gated community.

Phaerisee
Phaerisee

 I do like Romney's business experience, but his Gordon Gecko-esque tenure at Bain Capital concerns me. I also have a problem with him calling himself pro-life. In fact, Romneycare provided for taxpayer funded abortifacients (Pharmaceuticals that cause spontaneous abortion) How many evangelicals and catholics know this? He also is continually calling himself a christian to gain votes, when most of us learned in Sunday school that this is not the case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

ARTraveler
ARTraveler

None of them are pro-life.  They are pro-fetus and that's all.  They cut pre-natal care, WIC, and other support areas  They cut early childhood education.  They are for wars and executing anyone who doesn't look like them.  That is not pro-life!  You can't be pro-life and for wars or executing people. 

AfGuyReturns
AfGuyReturns

Don't forget that "killing the wrong people", including children, means "oh, well, mistakes happen in wartime... whatcha gonna do"...

Always a favorite of mine.

"Pro-life", my a**... they're "anti-public abortion funding"... because, if I'm NOT mistaken, they don't have a real problem with it when the daughters of the rich and powerful disappear for a week or two, on Daddy's dime, to get rid of that little "momento" from the vacation in the Bahamas.

As long as none of it's coming out of their "pocket".... it then becomes about "personal freedom".

And they'll cheer like crazy if a wrongly-convicted person is put-to-death.... as long as he had the "appearance" of a fair trial.

ERenger
ERenger

This was a very important point Clinton made, and it was definitely not lost on me. 

Just a few weeks ago my wife and I were talking to our financial advisor about long-term care insurance and how important it is. Whether it is assisted living or full nursing home care, it is extremely expensive. The advisor's point was that we had several options if we ever needed care: buying insurance now, paying for the care ourselves, or using Medicaid if we didn't have the resources ourselves. 

Until that point, I had not realized that it was Medicaid that would cover some very basic level of long-term care when an individual's money ran out. A lot of people end up on Medicaid, and if it were not there, a lot of elderly ill people would be in some very very serious trouble. 

The Romney/Ryan cuts to Medicaid would likely throw a lot of seniors into a hellish nightmare.

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

I bought Long Term Care insurance before I retired. I am hoping between that and my resources I will be able to manage. My late sister-in-law finally had to be put into a care facility because of Alzheimers disease. My brother was fortunate to be able to afford to put her into a wonderful facility and she was there for nearly two years. It cost over $100,000 a year.

ERenger
ERenger

My wife and I have our applications in right now. 

Undercover Brother
Undercover Brother

 I do like Romney's business experience, but his Gordon Gecko-esque tenure at Bain Capital concerns me. I also have a problem with him calling himself pro-life. In fact, Romneycare provided for taxpayer funded abortifacients

(Pharmaceuticals that cause spontaneous abortion)

How many evangelicals and catholics know this? He also is continually calling himself a christian to gain votes, when most of us learned in Sunday school that this is not the case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

73yearoldVet
73yearoldVet

Michael,

Sorry to burst your bubble but Mediscare is not going to work this time.

Your hero is toast.

Marlene Bohanan
Marlene Bohanan

Your nursing home care in guaranteed by the federal government thru the VA.  However, there are a multitude of people who have only Medicaid and or Medicare to cover the cost of that care.  The republican plan calls for turning medicaid over to the states and cutting over 30% of the funding.  This is at the same time that more baby boomers are beginning to need that assistance and alzheimers disease is becoming more prevalent.  Who is going to pick up the slack or are you saying that we shouldn't worry about

 those who cannot remain in the nursing homes for lack of fund?

Sue_N.
Sue_N.

No, he's not saying we shouldn't worry. He's saying, "We don't care."