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The Jerusalem Controversy

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Whoever took the usual language about Jerusalem being the capital of Israel out of the Democratic platform is an idiot. This is a long-time silliness that can’t really be resolved until a Middle East peace is achieved, but lip service must be paid. For what it’s worth, Jerusalem really is, most definitely, the capital of Israel. It is also the capital of Palestine…or will be, on the east side of town, if the Israeli and Palestinians ever negotiate a two-state solution. As for the absence of a shout out to God in the Democratic Party platform–another idiocy–let me suggest alternative language that would kill two birds with one Davidian slingshot: “God, it would be great if we could finally resolve the Jerusalem controversy.”

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mn22
mn22

Of course Romney is smiling, and so should be every other sane thinking person in this country. This shows what a lot of people already knew, this party doesn't have ANY core beliefs. They have followed the populist/polling wind of change for years now. They got it wrong this time and quickly backtracked, kind of... They couldn't even agree on the backtrack!

Music66
Music66

I fully agree w/ Mr. Kline.  It was clear that about half the delegation was opposed to either the mention of God in the platform, or the mention of Jerusalem being the capital of 

Israel.  Both are emotional topics for many Christian and Jewish Americans, and the Democratic party has just transmitted a clear signal that a large chunk of their folks are against one, or both.   I don't think it's possible for the Republicans to devise a more controversial epicenter upon which to focus people of faith from both sides of the aisle.  Mr. Romney is probably smiling pretty big right now.

Kimmee Sun Woo
Kimmee Sun Woo

I don't care what is said about Israel and I prefer nothing be said about Israel, it's capital or whatever internal strife there is another sovereign state . Are they they our 51st state? No! Then who cares. This Israeli-obsession is antithetical to American politics. 

Kevin Groenhagen
Kevin Groenhagen

"Whoever took the usual language about Jerusalem being the capital of Israel out of the Democratic platform is an idiot."

And we heard at least half the crowd vote against putting that language back in. So will Joe admit that half of the Democrat Party is made up of idiots?

priestson
priestson

 

The two

state solution is a blind alley.  Many

Israelis and Palestinians would  agree on

that  point. Most are probably dissatisfied

i with the status quo. The de facto capital of Israel is Jerusalem (Al Quds to

the Arabs).  As Romeo said  “What’s  in a name? A rose smells just the same by any

other name”. One hopes that the apartheid  and imposed  Arab “Basutoland” enclaves will end,  walls come down and new friendships formed. Separate

 local governments  of Israel and Palestine  formed  roughly jn  the areas where  each now predominate . A  federal government would be elected   by  all citizens of the new federated  Semitic state  with 

Jerusalem its unified capital in which both Hebrew and Palestinian  Arab take part as equal citizens. This would mean

 right of legal settlement and free movement

of all citizens. Right of return should apply to all not just one side. Of

course, this  a pipe dream and the devil remains

in  the details  but  it

Is the only long term solution even if it takes another 100 years  for Hebrews ,Arabs and other players  in this game of Rubik’s cube  to wake up.

shepherdwong
shepherdwong

"This is a long-time silliness that can’t really be resolved until a Middle East peace is achieved, but lip service must be paid."

Lip service to silliness. Finally, Joe Klein writes his own tagline.

ahandout
ahandout

 Klein, you are such a putz.   I am surprised that you didn't argue to replace God with Allah.

“God, it would be great if we could finally resolve the Jerusalem controversy.”

Dan Bruce
Dan Bruce

This incident shows the character of the two presidential candidates.

Obama realized that his Party's platform was out of touch with his beliefs and positions on the two issues, so he stepped in and had the platform changed to reflect his views so that he could face the American people as an honest candidate.

Mitt Romney did not have the courage of his convictions when faced with the same dilemma at his convention.

ahandout
ahandout

 No, Obama caved and ORDERED that this be put back in.  His leftist, God hating, anti-Semitic delegates hate it.

georgiamd
georgiamd

"Democrats have changed their convention platform to add a mention of God and declare that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

The move came after criticism from Republicans.

Many in the audience booed after the convention chairman, Los Angeles

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, ruled that the amendments had been approved

despite the fact that a large group of delegates objected."

And this should surprise no one.  The Democratic party takes ownership of its anti-religion stance and keeps moving further and further to the left. This is still a predominately Christian nation and I am sure a number of us will be taking note.

This Christmas, 78% of Americans Identify as Christian  

This Christmas season, 78% of Americans identify with some form of Christian ... Eleven years ago, in 1998, 6% of Americans did not identify with a religion, a number ...

www.gallup.com/poll/...78-Amer...

 

jmac
jmac

"The Democratic party takes ownership of its anti-religion stance and keeps moving. . . "       closer to the works of Jesus.   The GOP embraces  God and moves further and further from any form of Godliness.  Go figure.  

Plumbline
Plumbline

God Himself will personally resolve the controversary of Jerusalem.........

........

Zechariah 12:2-3..........

2 “Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. 3 And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it.........8 In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. 9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem........Mourning for the Pierced One.......10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem. Mourning for the Pierced One.......10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem.

bobell
bobell

Whew!  That's a relief.

Plumbline
Plumbline

Joel 3 ...........

3 “For behold, in those days and at that time,

When I bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem,

2 I will also gather all nations,

And bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat;

And I will enter into judgment with them there

On account of My people, My heritage Israel,

Whom they have scattered among the nations;

They have also divided up My land.

jmac
jmac

"As for the absence of a shout out to God in the Democratic Party platform–another idiocy . . . "

For those of us who don't hang our hats on a mythical creature in the sky, perhaps the idiocy belongs to those who insist we all must pay homage to this creature.    

ahandout
ahandout

 No you worship the creature, not the creator.

jmac
jmac

Paul Ryan:  "We disagree with the notion that our rights come from government, that the government can now grant us and define our rights.  These are ours, they come from nature and God, according to the Declaration of Independence."  

Give me a man who believes in our Government any day over a man who claims to believe in a God.  His God told him not to vote for BowlesSimpson so he wouldn't lose him job and could then blame the president for not passing Simpson/Bowles?     His God told him to play around with the debt ceiling so he could then blame the president for the Samp;P getting nervous and reducing our credit rating?  Maybe he'd be a better man without a God to forgive him of his sins. 

Kevin Groenhagen
Kevin Groenhagen

Anyone who thinks our rights come from government is a fool. If government gives you your rights, then government can also take them away.

DerekHologram
DerekHologram

The Jerusalem controversy will not be resolved  as long as one side is given preferential treatment and the other is treated like terrorists. It is sad to see this sort of irrationality and superstition embraced by Obama. What exactly did they say about God? Have they embraced the Ontological proof of his existence? Maybe they should condemn the theory of evolution while they are at it, or declare the universe to be only 6,000 years old.

paulejb
paulejb

Joe Klein,

Can you clear something up for us, Joe? Were the majority of the Democrat delegates booing God or were they booing Israel or was it both?

DerekHologram
DerekHologram

They were booing the narcissists who believe they know something about God, speak to God and think they are on a special mission from God. 

Curious_Quiche
Curious_Quiche

Man, it's just hilarious that there's such a backlash against a platform because it isn't taking into account a very subjective interpretation of a vision quest recounted in a religious text. In accordance with the prophecy, bro. Or perhaps it's more of an ethnic thing? What's the angle?

Pnnto
Pnnto

If one were to rank the issues that matter to the average citizen of this country where would this land?

"This is a long-time silliness that can’t really be resolved until a Middle East peace is achieved, but lip service must be paid."

The question is why must lip service be paid? 

gumOnShoe
gumOnShoe

Because people like Joe Kline are willing to decide the fate of the country they live in based on what that country would do about the country they only wished they lived in. :/

Pnnto
Pnnto

I wouldn't put Joe Klein in that category. He does call it "long-time silliness" after all. 

That said, I agree there is a large faction on the right that treats any issue regarding Israel in a bizarre way. 

Terry Clifton
Terry Clifton

That's their true colors, why hide from it? The boos and jeers where the loudest voices in the room..