A Different Paul Ryan Takes the Stage in Tampa

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Vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan is introduced at the Republican National Convention in Tampa on Aug. 29, 2012

Paul Ryan took the national stage earlier this summer as Washington’s most famous wonk. The Wisconsin Congressman was known as a master of budget policy with grand ideas for restructuring entitlement programs and slashing domestic spending. It seemed that Mitt Romney had doubled down on controversial fiscal policies like major long-term reductions to Medicare, the consequences be damned.

But it was not the wonky Ryan who showed up onstage in Tampa on Wednesday night. Instead, Ryan served as a cutting prosecutor of President Obama’s record, a cultural beacon for the middle class and an energetic, telegenic jolt of energy at a somewhat humdrum convention. Beloved in conservative circles for his alleged bravery on fiscal issues, Ryan made little effort to detail his ticket’s budget plans, which would involve a wrenching reduction in the size of government. And on the most sensitive issue Ryan has tackled in Congress — reining in Medicare — he skipped the details of his ideas, instead repeating his attacks on the Medicare cuts in Obama’s health care law.

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It was a slashing but attention-grabbing address that electrified the delegates in Tampa and featured a few of this campaign’s more memorable lines. “The greatest threat to Medicare is Obamacare, and we’re going to stop it,” Ryan declared, charging, as he has for weeks now, that Obama is shortchanging seniors to expand coverage for the mostly low-income uninsured. (The reality is rather more complicated.) Ryan also drew rhetorical blood by channeling the frustration of a nation unable to fight its way out of economic malaise: “College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and wondering when they can move out and get going with life,” he said, a vivid fillip of which some speechwriter should be proud.

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At the heart of Ryan’s speech was the charge that Obama has failed to lead the country out of its economic crisis, wasting time and money on a stimulus that didn’t work as advertised and dodging hard, long-term budget questions. Unlike Chris Christie — who leveled a similar case the night before — Ryan was stinging without seeming nasty. He was impassioned without sounding angry.

But he also fudged facts to the brink of rank dishonesty, implying that Obama had presided over the closure of a General Motors plant in his district, which actually closed before Obama took office; slamming the President for rejecting the findings of his Simpson-Bowles fiscal commission when Ryan himself, a commission member, voted against them; and neglecting Obama’s quite serious grand-bargain budget negotiations with GOP leaders in Congress last summer.

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There was a certain dishonesty of omission. Ryan made no effort to explain his own critique that Medicare is an unsustainable program unless Washington imposes dramatic and unpopular changes that could force seniors to pay substantially more for their health care. He named the goal of limiting federal spending to 20% of gross domestic product, making no effort to brace the country for the potentially traumatic implications of that figure for the role of government.

Obama campaign hands in Chicago may have chewed their nails as they watched Ryan’s deft self-introduction to his national audience. Ryan showed off his young and telegenic wife and kids, noted the tragic and humanizing death of his father when he was just 16 and copiously singled out his mother, whom he uses effectively as a symbol to demonstrate that his budget program couldn’t possibly be as heartless to seniors as Democrats claim.

Continuing an important theme from Tuesday night, Ryan struck clear notes designed to resonate with middle-class voters who may be skeptical that Romney truly understands their daily troubles. “I live on the same block where I grew up. We belong to the same parish where I was baptized.  Janesville is that kind of place,” Ryan said. He effectively celebrated Romney as a good man of faith who, like him, “grew up in the heartland.” Ryan and Romney are said to share a deep love of data, but Ryan’s description of his running mate revolved around heart and soul, including an endearing tweak of Romney’s musical taste. (“There are the songs on his iPod which I’ve heard on the campaign bus and on many hotel elevators.”)

By all accounts, Republican luminaries and Romney himself were drawn to Ryan for his policy wonkery — for his love and understanding of free-market theories as propagated by the likes of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman and Jack Kemp. But while Ryan’s speech celebrated the free market, that was not its lasting power. Its success was rhetorical and emotional, not theoretical. The wonk, it turns out, is quite a politician. And that may be just what Mitt Romney needs.

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44 comments
Sandman
Sandman

All America really wants to know if whether or not he can see Russia from his house. I mean come on people.

Brian Lee
Brian Lee

Every time someone makes an Obama teleprompter comment I'm going to link that picture above.

George McDowell
George McDowell

How on Earth can the Republican/Tea Party nominate a career corporate criminal and tax cheat for the highest office in the land? The only house he should be in is The Big House.  Will he finally reveal tonight how he was able to stash away a quarter of a billion dollars without paying federal income taxes for nearly 15 years? No, he will blame Obama for not completely cleaning up after Mitt's hero, George Bush Jr. By the way, where are they hiding Bush Jr. these days? They're not ashamed of the Worst President Ever, are they? Because we know they have no shame.

COG7958
COG7958

 As long as he paid $3,800 or more in federal income taxes each year, he paid his fair share! 

jefflz
jefflz

The  RomneyRyan world is one where up is down, black is white and bad is good. A world where you destroy Medicare and claim you are saving it. A world where slashing taxes for the very rich while eliminating Social Security as we know it and cutting education is good for all  the people. Romney has bowed down to the Tea Party extremists with his selection of Ryan and he will deliver yet more double-talk designed to entice the under-educated into his ever-shifting world. 

Robert W Kinne
Robert W Kinne

I know I've seen Ryan before.  Isn't he the one who advertises 'Male Enhancement' products on late night TV?

Dan5404
Dan5404

MCconnell and Cantor planned even before inauguration that the GOP would give no cooperation or compromise for four years to assure the country would not recover and they could regain power with a more extreme version of the Bush presidency,  In other words, our employees took four years off from work with pay.   Despite that, Obama. whose job does not entail making legislation, managed to stop Bush's 750,000 a month job loss and get slow, but positive overall growth.   In addition, he cares about women's rights, minorities, the elderly and the poor.  He believes in improving education and building infrastructure.  He knows that spending cuts and revenue increases are the only true answers.   None of those qualities can be found among the GOP policies.   That's why I voted for Obama

and will again, along with most of my family and friends.  We're not willing to allow America's future to be bought by greedy billionaires.

Richard Giles
Richard Giles

Let's deal with reality and keep things in perspective.  No matter how eloquent you think Ryan is, if you think he is, he still has clearly and emphatically demonstrated he is one of the "puppets" owned and controlled by "the money" who literally "pull his strings".   He clearly proved that with his performance in constantly siding with Boehner, Cantor, Bachmann and the others to arrogantly fault and stubbornly block all efforts to address the problems, putting their political ambitions above all else no matter what the costs to the people, and in constantly irresponsibly withholding any bipartisan compromise or cooperation.  He then further substantiated his loyalty to "the money" and his disregard for the majority with the Ryan Budget that deceptively advocated putting more costs on the middle-class while just giving more unreasonable concessions to "the money".  No matter how impressive or concerned for the people he may now seem, the truth is that he is owned and controlled by "the money" and the current subterfuge is just aimed to present an attractive but false image.  And all he ever offers is to try to blame Obama for everything.  To be conned by that is just asking to be further duped, used and abused.

Dan5404
Dan5404

Different?  Louder, maybe, but spouting the same old worn out GOP propaganda after working for 4 years to see that Obama and the country would not succeed at recovery so they and their billionaire cronies could buy the next election and give us a more extreme version of the disatrous Bush years.

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

Apparently the AP's coverage of the speech has now resulted in #factualshortcuts being the newest trending hashtag.

filmnoia
filmnoia

The AP , like a large part of the  MSM, indulges in every eumphemism imaginable, without using the words "lies" or "liars." Paulie was "bad cop" , with a litany of lies, feeding red meat to the mouth breathers. Tonight Willard will be the "good cop", above the fray.

I hope in the VP debate Biden asks Paulie - "Who do you love more, a zygote or an atheist like Ayn Rand?

sacredh
sacredh

"A Different Paul Ryan Takes the Stage in Tampa"

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Manchurian candidate. I KNEW it!

politathiest
politathiest

The Grand Conspiracies special code.

"we want EVERYBODY to have their taxes cut". =. "as long as the rich have a bigger one and actualy cost middle class about $1300 more"

"we need to cut taxes on the job producers to get economy going". =. "We rich don't get our way on taxes, well take our offshore money elsewhere"

Class warfare is "devisive" =. "We need to continue the middle class economic genocde"

"a rising tide raises all boats". =. "Then we can have room to replace average workers boats with our bigger yachts"

"We want to give everyone a chance to work hard and succeed". =. "As long as they can make due on minimum wage while we give ourselves extragegant stock bonuses".

"we want government to stop stiffling business to create jobs". =. "We want cover to be able to continue to screw the American people over and over and over and over...until we own EVERYTHING".

politathiest
politathiest

Paul Ryan's Top 10 Falsehoods and Outrages... from Just His First Week on the Campaign Trail Ryan's early roll-out for campaign 2012 has been quite the disaster. 1. Ryan’s position opposing abortion even in cases of rape, and his attempts to define cytoblasts as legal ‘persons’ (which would outlaw all termination of pregnancies and some forms of birth control) came under scrutiny when Republican Todd Akin, running for the Senate in Missouri, provoked a furor. Akin said he opposed abortion even in cases of rape because in ‘legitimate rape’ the woman’s body rejects fertilization. Akin’s insensitivity to a situation that affects a third of a million American women every decade, plus his ignorance of Biology 101, drew widespread condemnation. Mitt Romney put out a statement that both he and Ryan believed abortion was permitted in case of rape. Problem: Ryan has repeatedly opposed that position and appears to agree with Akin more than with his running mate. 2. Ryan keeps attacking Prsident Obama’s stimulus program now . But in 2002 when then President George W. Bush proposed stimulus spending, Ryan supported it. “What we’re trying to accomplish today with the passage of this third stimulus package is to create jobs and help the unemployed,” Ryan told MSNBC in 2002. 3. Even more embarrassing, in 2010, Ryan asked for $20 million in stimulus money from Obama for companies in his district, then repeatedly denied requesting stimulus funds. He finally admitted he had done so, but continues to slam the stimulus program as a failure (even though the economy pulled out of a Depression as a result of it). 4. Ryan slammed President Obama for the closure of an auto plant that closed in late 2008 under George W. Bush. Ryan’s running mate, Mitt Romney, opposed Obama’s actual auto bailout, which was a great success and returned Detroit to profitability. 5. When Ryan was challenged on his lack of foreign policy credentials, he replied that he had ‘voted to send men to war.’ That is, he is boasting that his support of the illegal and disastrous Bush invasion and occupation of Iraq qualifies him to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. The Iraq War left over 4,000 US service personnel dead, over 30,000 seriously wounded, and likely hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead; failed to uncover any weapons of mass destruction, contributed to the US debt, and led to the takeover of Iraq by Shiite elements close to Iran, who are now helping Iran get around US sanctions. Does Ryan really want to run on that record of foreign policy ‘success’? 6. Paul Ryan charges that Barack Obama has ‘stolen’ $700 billion from medicare for his Obamacare. In fact, these expense reductions do not cut Medicare benefits, and, moreover, Romney and Ryan supported these reductions! The difference is that they would give the savings to the affluent, whereas Obama uses them to cover the presently uninsured. 7. Ryan, seeking the youth vote, was foolish enough to list “Rage against the Machine” as one of his favorite bands. Band leader Tom Morello lambasted him, saying Ryan is the embodiment of the machine against which they are raging. Face it, Ryan, you are stuck with Megadeath and Ted Nugent. 8. It became clear that under Ryan’s tax plan, Gov. Mitt Romney would pay less than 1% in annual federal taxes, highlighting Romney’s already low rate compared to ordinary Americans (slightly lower than Ryan’s own!) and putting the spotlight back where Ryan’s appointment was supposed to misdirect it. 9. It turns out Ryan and his wife own shares in oil and gas companies that indirectly benefit from tax breaks for Big Oil that he wants to keep in the federal budget. 10. Ryan continues to push his longstanding plans for a steal-from-the-elderly-and-give-to-the-rich medicare plan, which

bobell
bobell

If you'll start using paragraph breaks, I'll start reading your comments.

politathiest
politathiest

Sorry, I dont have the free time others here seem to have to make everything nice and neat....doesn't effect substance

Fernando
Fernando

I like how everyone on here is calling Paul Ryan a liar. When we've had a president that promised the world to us and has fulfilled very few of his promises. Taking into consideration that he did inherit a bad situation he has only added to it. That being said who has lied more. Stop saying this party is out of touch or this party doesn't relate to me. To me both parties are out of touch with their fan bases. Just because we have charismatic, cool, hip president doesn't mean he is in touch. I really couldn't care if I related to my president if he at least was getting the job done. Regardless of parties you have to be open minded and look at what benefits you from each party. We cannot be fanatics of either party that will not lead to progress. Most people act like they know what will happen if Romney is elected or if Obama is reelected. That fact is no one knows. All I know is that our country is major debt and a very high unemployment rate and we have our government spending like there is no tomorrow.  Wasteful spending! Don't decide your going to support the Dream Act, Gay Marriage, and the Healthcare bill all with in a very short time of getting elected. Do it in the beginning and make a stand if you really intended for these issues to be in the forefront. I am a Republican I am also of Mexican descent but I do not follow blindly. I am not a big fan of Obama never was he is definitely a very smart individual and I am sure his intentions are good but at this moment his policies are not working. By no means can I guarantee that with Romney our problems will be fixed but I do think he will have a better grip of the economy. I like the Paul Ryan choice very smart individual. I am actually more excited about him then I am about Romney.

BigPicture55
BigPicture55

Fernando,

Check out this link and tell me about promises again.

http://www.politifact.com/trut...

Also, since you don't think POTUS policies are working, what policies of Romneys that he has FULLY disclosed, do you believe will work?

politathiest
politathiest

The Grand Conspiracies special code.

"we want EVERYBODY to have their taxes cut". =. "as long as the rich have a bigger one and actualy cost middle class about $1300 more"

"we need to cut taxes on the job producers to get economy going". =. "We rich don't get our way on taxes, well take our offshore money elsewhere"

Class warfare is "devisive" =. "We need to continue the middle class economic genocde"

"a rising tide raises all boats". =. "Then we can have room to replace average workers boats with our bigger yachts"

"We want to give everyone a chance to work hard and succeed". =. "As long as they can make due on minimum wage while we give ourselves extragegant stock bonuses".

"we want government to stop stiffling business to create jobs". =. "We want cover to be able to continue to screw the American people over and over and over and over...until we own EVERYTHING".

Peter Milley
Peter Milley

Notice how the actual admission of Ryan's dishonesty is below the fold while the praise is in the lede.

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

That's because the wonky Ryan does not exist except inside the beltway folklore. 

The power of narrative exceeds the power of knowledge and that's the unfortunate truth of the matter. Just as Glenn Kessler sometimes gets stuck digging deeper and deeper holes because he's committed to a position and can no longer change it, declaring now that Paul Ryan ISN"T actually good at math, would represent WAY too much embarrassment to actually be allowed to be put out there. We'll just have to settle for 'dishonest'.

dv1234
dv1234

Sorry I didn't make this clear. I wasn't insinuating that we should ignore the past at all. I simply meant that we've been hearing this over and over. As an excuse instead of coming up with ways not to repeat the past. There's lots of blame to go around, but I still want to know if you're better off during the last 3.5 years and if not, why vote for Obama again?

SmilingSmartBlonde
SmilingSmartBlonde

Actually the Bush yearswere disastrous for varied populations,  and for those who suffered during those Bush years there is a firm belief that those years were far worse than now.

gysgt213
gysgt213

"But it was not the wonky Ryan who showed up onstage in Tampa Wednesday night.".

And he is not going to show up tonight, tomorrow night or next week.  Nor will he show up in 2 months.  That's because the wonky Ryan does not exist except inside the beltway folklore.  He is not a policy wonk and he is not a budget wonk.  

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He is a deceiver and he is not fudging the facts.  He is lying about the facts.  Even Fox News notices as they summed up his speech in 3 words. Dazzling, Deceiving and Distracting.

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion... 

MrObvious
MrObvious

He used teleprompters?

deconstructiva
deconstructiva

He couldn't fit John Galt's or Howard Roark's speeches on his hand. Sarah Palin knew how to fit talking points on her "palm pilot".

rishardana
rishardana

I wonder if that much lies really matters to most voters. I think the

line has already been drawn. So Paul Ryan's lies will be accepted as

'truth' by people who like him either way. Especially when those lies

are repeated over and over through huge budget adverts.

dv1234
dv1234

Ok honest debate.  Just tell me, make a case how America is better today than four years ago. No blaming the past cuz y'all had the house and the senate for the first part of Obama's term.  Don't go back to Bush, Clinton, etc.  Just tell me what has Obama done that he promised to do?  What has he done for the debt?  I want information, not bashing and making excuses.  I just want to know why you want to vote for Obama?  Not versus Romney, just why you personally feel Obama deserves another 4 years.  Simple.  Don't go off with rants and tangents.  Simple question:  If you support or voted for obama, why?  

CJamesJr
CJamesJr

 we were hemorrhaging 800,000 jobs per month four years ago.  The global capitalist system was on the brink of collapse.  We learned that contrary to Cheney - deficits do matter.  Barak Obama has saved countless lives that would not have had insurance coverage due to pre-existing conditions.  The auto industry is thriving where four years ago it was on the bring of collapse.  The banking industry are turning record profits as is Fortune 500.  The Fortune 500 is sitting on $2Trillion in cash.  They were looking at global meltdown four years ago.  Need I go on...

DeeinColumbiaMD
DeeinColumbiaMD

This absurd, u say tell me how it's gotten better but din't mention how we got here. That's because you don't want to acknowledge that the fall out of Bush's legacy was still unfolding during the beginning of his term. We were losin 800k jobs per month in January. Despite the swiftness of the stimulus vote the money didn't get into the system until March and immediately started reducing job loss and now the last 27 months of positive job growth. The auto bailout was unpopular but it saved the manufacturing base of the country not just the auto industry and we are increasing manufacturing jobs a greater clip than we've done in 30 years. On top of everything the GOP had a secret plan to derail every effort even tho it meant it would make the recovery more difficult but any victories would mean the president would be reelected so they put party first. Patriots hmm I don't think do. I believe the GOP has permanently passed the torch of country 1st, national security, competency to the Democrats. Led by Cantor amp; McConell they put themselves ahead if the country amp; that will always be their legacy - history will not be kind to their treasonous behavior. Now for once and for all if you don't want Bush blamed then cut this canard that the President hit everything he wanted he had a filibuster proof majority 4 a few months. Now using GOP time I'n sure that translates into two years, but for reality based people it was 7 months before Frankenstein was seated, Byrd died and was replaced then we had 4 months and Kennedy died. So give me a break PBO succeeded spectacularly in spite if GOP unprecedented treachery. At least Dems helped Bush when the country was in trouble. When advisors told Obama not go help out the states with the stimulus cuz Republican governors would be ingrates and moreover they should suffer for the shortsightedness of tax cuts in good times that left them especially vulnerable in tough times. PBO said no regardless of party they are Americans and we will help them. Now they claim their state's recovery was all about them, due to their tax cuts a policy proven to not work over and over again, making no mention if the stimulus that saved them. PBO was all class GOP was all crass. More jobs have been created under 4 years of PBO than 8 years of Bush. So am I better off yes: Sept 2008 I lost 50% of the value of my 401k and my money market account was uninsured. Sept 2012 the value of my 401k has been fully restored and then some and my money market account is insured for the first time ever. What you got? And if you come with the debt let me stop you right here: debt under Reagan up 186%; debt under Bush Sr. up 54%; debt under Clinton up by 41%, debt under Bush jr. 74% amp; debt under PBO despite all if the economic damage he has dealt with debt is up only 23%.

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

The liberals in the swamp can't defend the past 4 years anymore than Barry Obama can defend it. Barry's "plan" simply FAILED.

gysgt213
gysgt213

Genius.  If you are not going to blame the past then teh last 3 years don't count either.  You cannot get better if you do not review the mistakes made in the past.  Other wise you have no data and or information to go forward.

MrObvious
MrObvious

Because ultimately Obama wants to make sure middle class Americans get a fair break to drag us out of this economic slump. Not just workers, but small business owners.

Large corporations and rich people can afford a economic downturn. They're doing by all accounts okay and if there are corporations that aresuffering right now, it is most likely because of demand. You can only solve demand by ensuring that consumers can afford to grease the economic wheel.

deconstructiva
deconstructiva

When companies en masse cut jobs, wages, R+D, etc. they shouldn’t expect struggling consumers to pick up the load in a falling economy. Then the companies hoard their cash, rehire slowly if at all, and still pay top bonuses to top brass. Even Ayn Rand would struggle to defend capitalism like this (but would do it anyway). Henry Ford was no friend of unions but he knew that paying a fair living wage, even above “market rate”, helped create a customer base from his own workers.

deconstructiva
deconstructiva

The most common reason to keep Obama (many reasons have been mentioned here often, read the archives) is to keep the Supreme Court from going full-tilt conservative and overturn multiple individual rights, including Roe v. Wade. The Citizen United ruling was the tipping point.

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As for your other requests, divorcing the past has no meaning since the recession started under Bush and no one person can have full control over our huge economy without literal dictatorial powers. Also, saying the D’s had the Senate is not entirely true. As for Obama’s promises, the R’s filibustered Obama from the beginning …remember McConnell’s mission to make Obama a one-termer?... and the D’s only had 60-vote clotures with the help of two independents, Sanders and Lieberman. The mistake, of course, was allowing filibuster rules to remain in place. Perhaps next term Reid is finally willing to change the rules.

ERenger
ERenger

Ryan certainly has an oratorical talent for delivering lies. 

bud278
bud278

Just say it - he LIED to the American people, at least 3 times. Great way to start a campaign

filmnoia
filmnoia

In the next two months Paulie will be telling lies as much as Willard. When he returns to his congressional seat in the next Congress, the Beltway media love affair with Mr. Serious will be over. They will treat him as just another lying self serving hack.

sacredh
sacredh

He's catching hell from the republican leadership too. Everything he said should have been a lie. That's what happens when they stray off script.

politathiest
politathiest

RYANS as bad a hypocrite as Jundal

Governor Jindal was frequently critical of the response of the federal government and BP, which was leasing the rig. He fought for the construction of a massive chain of sand barriers to block oil offshore. -"government money is good "

Gov. Bobby Jindal continues to slash and defund desperately needed programs that citizens rely on for their right to the pursuit of happiness, such as library funding, mental health funding, and the Louisiana Early Steps program for infants and toddlers with developmental delays/disabilities and their families. Now Governor Jindal is refusing to implement the recently upheld Affordable Care Act passed two years ago by Congress. - "government money is bbaaadddd"

After Obama signed an emergency declaration for the state, Jindal said it fell short of the help he was requesting. Jindal said he wanted more Louisiana parishes covered and urged Obama to have the federal government reimburse state and local government agencies for storm preparation efforts. - "government money is gggooooodddd".

No wait.....its bad...... No goood........no bad........{SSPPOOONNNGGG}. SOMEONE PLEASE HIS HEAD BACK ON! BASSA HAAAA HAAAA

gysgt213
gysgt213

Jindal should know by now and I'm sure he does.  The federal government is there for when a local government(s) gets overwhelmed.  The federal government should not generally be responsible for reimbursing state and local governments for doing their jobs by preparing for a storm.

Paul Randall
Paul Randall

"he also fudged facts to the brink of rank dishonest" is the understatement of the year.

Ryan chided Obama for not taking responsibility and then blamed him for the credit downgrade "It began with a perfect Triple-A credit rating for the United States; it ends with a downgraded America." a  credit downgrade caused by the tantrum his radical followers in the House threw over the debt ceiling. 

He wrongly asserts "it ends with a housing crisis they didn't correct." Ryan may not like it and he may not want it, but housing has bottomed. The housing market is recovering all around the country and if the House radicals don’t pull another one of their  petulant stunts and throw the nation back into recession a robust housing sector is poised to be the roaring engine of

growth going forward. 

He promised “we will get America creating wealth again” America is creating wealth, fabulous wealth. The problem is that for the last 32 years all the newly created wealth

in America has accrued to the top 10% while the middle class has flat-lined. What will he do about that if he won't even acknowledge the problem? 

"we will keep federal spending at 20 percent of GDP, or less."

Spending today is 24% of GDP does Ryan plan to cut total federal government spending by 20%. Where are the honest details of that plan for Americans to see before the election?

Obamacare has “ no place in a free country.”

What kind of a country do Romnaycare and Ryancare belong in? Both are structured similarly to Obamacare, with premium supports, insurance exchanges and no pre-existing condition exclusions. All have thousands of pages of rules, how could they not? Romneycare has a penalty tax. Who is he kidding?

This telegenic young "prosecutor" has lied to the jury, twisting facts and shading the truth. This member of the jury is not convinced that Ryan amp; Romney's road map isn't a Highway To Hell.

Otto Man
Otto Man

 An understatement, but closer to just saying "Ryan delivered bald-faced lies" than some of his colleagues have gotten.