Rand Paul Speaks: Will the Ron Paul Fans Follow?

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Senator Rand Paul listens to a man speak at the Republican National Convention in Tampa on Aug. 28, 2012

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Senator Rand Paul walked onto the convention stage on Wednesday night knowing he was a rickety bridge between his father’s supporters and the Republican establishment. A contingent of delegates loyal to Ron Paul had stalked off the floor in protest the day before because they felt they had been marginalized by the Republican National Committee. But while the first-term Kentucky Senator threw his father’s libertarian acolytes a few bones, his speech was largely devoted to validating Mitt Romney — and that wasn’t enough to stop a repeat of Tuesday’s disruption.

Before Rand Paul’s speech, there was a tribute video for Paul the senior, a 12-term Congressman who “never wavered” and “never backed down.” It featured testimonials from Ron Paul’s family and colleagues — such as liberty-movement favorites Senator Mike Lee and Representative Justin Amash — as well as footage of Ron himself. The film was an olive branch extended to Ron’s zealous fans by the convention organizers. The homage lasted five minutes, during which the crowd cheered wildly, thrusting cowboy hats and “Ron Paul” signs into the air.

Then came a Paul in the flesh. The first section of Rand’s 15-minute speech was dedicated to something that everyone could get behind: criticizing Barack Obama. “There’s only one option left,” he said. “We have to have a new President!” His central rhetorical trope was that people did build the things that Obama allegedly thought they hadn’t built. And that included people in Mitt Romney’s tax bracket. “Businessmen and -women did earn their success,” he said. This got very little applause. “You say the rich must pay their fair share,” he continued, “but when you seek to punish the rich, the jobs that are lost are those of the poor and the middle class.” “Punishing” the Exxon Mobil executive hurt secretaries who held that stock, he said, countering Obama’s favorite story of Warren Buffett’s assistant.

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Rand never mentioned his father by name, though he did single out “a certain Congressman from Texas” who ran for President when retelling his family background. And he gave a nod to his father’s belief in noninterventionism overseas, saying Democrats and Republicans had to recognize that “not every dollar spent on the military is necessary.” At one point, he channeled pure Ron Paul, emphasizing the importance of personal rights. “We must never, never trade our liberty for any fleeting promise of security,” he said to wild applause. But he ended with a wholehearted endorsement of Romney, which was awkward, given that his father never agreed to give such an endorsement himself. “I understand why he’s doing it,” Ron Paul supporter Guillermo Jimenez said after the speech. “But it kinda hurts.”

Other Ron Paul supporters weren’t so accepting. Senator John McCain took the stage after Rand, but the Republican Party’s previous nominee was interrupted. Just as they had the day before, Ron Paul supporters started shouting over the proceedings, protesting the treatment the Maine delegation had received and committee rule changes. Tuesday it was the Maine delegation; on Wednesday delegates from various states chanted, “As goes Maine, so goes the nation!” The onstage programming paused for a 10-minute instrumental interlude while the commotion wore on.

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Ron Paul’s delegates, some of the most dedicated Republican supporters out there, may find some way to protest again on Thursday, but the official Paul-related convention events in Tampa are now over. The political landscape won’t be quite the same. Mitt Romney is the official nominee, and three-time presidential candidate Paul has said he’s retiring. That leaves the liberty movement at a loss for a leader. While Ron’s supporters loudly applaud Rand at rallies, they don’t view him as an automatic heir to his father’s legacy.

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jacobcrim
jacobcrim

Not a chance in hell I support Mitt Romney just because Ron Paul's kid does. Hell I am not even sure Rand really supports Romney. To me it seems more like his move in political chess where he is just saving face for the future of himself. He can act like he is playing along and get further than his father, who did ostracize himself for being far too awesome. 

Glen Fiddich
Glen Fiddich

 

Am I the only one who has noticed the wing-nut Republikkkraps

have never tried to attack Obama's "character" the way they did with

Clinton? 

 

Then again, their nominee is a member of a white

supremacist polygamous cult that thinks 40 year-old-men marrying 13-year-old

girls is OK. 

 

So it's not a stretch that they would haul up an

actor who’s had a palimony suit and multiple baby-mammas .

 

The look on Ann Romney's face during Eastwood's

speech was PRICELESS. You'd think a drunk old uncle was spoiling her husband’s

funeral.

 

The only thing missing was Sarah Palin, talking

to an end table.

Glen Fiddich
Glen Fiddich

  Spin

it any way that makes you feel better: the fact is that Eastwood was

the best thing that could have happened to Obama in the GOP orgy of

self-adoration.

Mr. Obama couldn't BUY a gift like that!

Mitt "Don't Let Fact Checking Get In The Way" Romney in the White House? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

Thanks, Eastwood!

GOBAMA 2012!!!

Janice_Borkenhagen
Janice_Borkenhagen

Maybe you all don't realize just what's at stake here.  It doesn't matter that Romney is a vacillating idiot with a good haircut and that Rand Paul endorsed him.  What DOES matter is that Obama is killing this country just as surely and completely as his Moslem friends promised.  Watch the movie "2016".  Read the book "Imposter"  Wake up and educate yourselves before you are slammed into reality and it's too late to do anything about it.  Four more years of Obamacrap will finish us.  Vote for the haircut!  The Republican party DOES need each and every one of us to get the imposter OUT of the White House.   After YEARS of backing Ron Paul and hoping he'd get the nomination,  I and each and every one of us will have to swallow our disappointment and work together to get Obama OUT.  After November, we can all go back to being Libertarians!

Janice_Borkenhagen
Janice_Borkenhagen

Maybe you all don't realize just what's at stake here.  It doesn't matter that Romney is a vacillating idiot with a good haircut and that Rand Paul endorsed him.  What DOES matter is that Obama is killing this country just as surely and completely as his Moslem friends promised.  Watch the movie "2016".  Read the book "Imposter"  Wake up and educate yourselves before you are slammed into reality and it's too late to do anything about it.  Four more years of Obamacrap will finish us.  Vote for the haircut!  The Republican party DOES need each and every one of us to get the imposter OUT of the White House.   After YEARS of backing Ron Paul and hoping he'd get the nomination,  I and each and every one of us will have to swallow our disappointment and work together to get Obama OUT.  After November, we can all go back to being Libertarians!

Janice_Borkenhagen
Janice_Borkenhagen

Maybe you all don't realize just what's at stake here.  It doesn't matter that Romney is a vacillating idiot with a good haircut and that Rand Paul endorsed him.  What DOES matter is that Obama is killing this country just as surely and completely as his Moslem friends promised.  Watch the movie "2016".  Read the book "Imposter"  Wake up and educate yourselves before you are slammed into reality and it's too late to do anything about it.  Four more years of Obamacrap will finish us.  Vote for the haircut!  The Republican party DOES need each and every one of us to get the imposter OUT of the White House.   After YEARS of backing Ron Paul and hoping he'd get the nomination,  I and each and every one of us will have to swallow our disappointment and work together to get Obama OUT.  After November, we can all go back to being Libertarians!

Jerry Denk
Jerry Denk

It's hard to believe that this man , Ron Paul , could be pushed aside by the Republican

Party. No matter who becomes president someone has to get alone with themselves and read the Constitution. The Banks of the world are about to eat it. What will they eat when there is no food? The criminal acts that caused the great DEPRESSION of 2007-08 go unpunished and are growing as we speak and everyone can know  it because Ron Paul showed them. I pray that I am wrong but fear that the Blue collar middle class is now gone and those who sided against them now stand alone. Divide and conquer, it's the communists way.

Janice_Borkenhagen
Janice_Borkenhagen

Maybe you all don't realize just what's at stake here.  It doesn't matter that Romney is a vacillating idiot with a good haircut and that Rand Paul endorsed him.  What DOES matter is that Obama is killing this country just as surely and completely as his Moslem friends promised.  Watch the movie "2016".  Read the book "Imposter"  Wake up and educate yourselves before you are bitch-slapped into reality and it's too late to do anything about it.  Four more years of Obamacrap will finish us.  Vote for the haircut!  The Republican party DOES need each and every one of us to get the imposter OUT of the White House.   After YEARS of backing Ron Paul and hoping he'd get the nomination,  I and each and every one of us will have to swallow our disappointment and work together to get Obama OUT.  After November, we can all go back to being Libertarians!

Janice_Borkenhagen
Janice_Borkenhagen

Maybe you all don't realize just what's at stake here.  It doesn't matter that Romney is a vascillating idiot with a good haircut and that Rand Paul endorsed him.  What DOES matter is that Obama is killing this country just as surely and completely as his Moslem friends promised.  Watch the movie "2016".  Read the book "Imposter"  Wake up and educate yourselves before you are bitch-slapped into reality and it's too late to do anything about it.  Four more years of Obamacrap will finish us.  Vote for the haircut!  The Republican party DOES need each and every one of us to get the imposter OUT of the White House.   After YEARS of backing Ron Paul and hoping he'd get the nomination,  I and each and every one of us will have to swallow our disappointment and work together to get Obama OUT.  After November, we can all go back to being Libertarians!

politathiest
politathiest

Can someone explain to me if and what difference there is between libertarian and Tea Party . is the difference the extent of world interventional ism? it seems like there is at least some difference between these 2 affiliations . as I argued below , if they want to deal with the biggest parts of the deficit first and supposedly mostly middle class , they're better to be aligned with Democrats and Republicans . the Romney oligarcharians are only concerned with their bottom line not the middle class , plus there's a better chance of cutting military spending fighting with Democrats and Republicans as well as crony capitalism loopholes . these represents far more dollars in ball than any of the social safety nets that are reasonably touchable. please I'm asking someone to explain why republicanism is better aligned with your goals and self interests.

deconstructiva
deconstructiva

One difference is that the Tea Party has LOTS more corporate / financial backing, like the Koch Bros., than do Ron Paul and the libertarians.

jj
jj

I think he had a great speech last night and I think he is trying the "go along to get along" method within the beast, to further his fathers ideals. I don't think that being the son of Ron Paul, he would  intentionally drop everything  he was brought up to believe and learn from his father. I think we have a public policy problem on liberty issues and that came thru with Rands speech. What the RNC did was criminal I agree and Obamney is an elitist puppet but we cant give up on Rand, I truely think he is fighting for us. Keep the faith.

politathiest
politathiest

I think the true libertarians went home already and turnef the lights off on the way out. the GOP is the party off intolerance 2 ideas not on their platform. it was only a matter of time before it bit them in the b***

politathiest
politathiest

Ron Paul and libertarians are just simply fools. I like some of the things Ron Paul talked about specially the non interventionism . I think most of us like the idea that government shouldn't force us or make us do something that we don't want to . Of course Ron had 1 inconsistency in that he thinks that woman should not be allowed to have an abortion . Democrats would be on board with the libertarian idea of freedom especially since conservatives want to use theirs squeued idea of biblical principles to force laws on those that don't believe the same. But that's not why they are fools and ultimately traitors. I remember hearing Ron talk about how we need to cut the deficit and 2 things he points out that Democrats can agree with cutting military spending and loop holes for crony capitalism . when asked about cutting the social programs all at once, like his position tends to imply , he did acknowledge that many of the programs he didn't like would have to be phased out slowly , but he was very clear on the fact that in the meantime we can cut the military and crony capitalism aspects of the deficit first and then work out diminishing the social programs later. it's too bad libertarianism does not understand the biblical principles of shared resources and taking care of the least . BUT, if he meant what he said about taking care of military spending and crony capitalism first , which I would agree he has a valid point, then libertarians should be more aligned with the Democrats and Republicans . Dealing with military spending and crony capitalism would by far reduce the deficit more than any part of the social safety net that's realistically changable . If , by his own admission, those 2 aspects should be dealt with first , why are libertarians so aligned with Republican Party . we know there's no way in hell that they're going to cut military or prevent billionaire tax loopholes to be cut. I would very seriously like a Ron Paul supporter to explain why allying yourself with Republicans when the 2 aspects Paul thinks are most important to deal with first are better coordinated with democratic principles ? And have many times more potential for savings, please explain this because it doesn't make sense and therefore they are fools . he's also a full for not running as an independent . he has no more ties to Congress if any time there was to show a third party could make a dead it was now . I agree with others hear that I think grand is on his way to complete sell out . yet another group that just can't figure out that their supporting a group that goes against their self interest .

RPSupporterUK
RPSupporterUK

"If , by his own admission, those 2 aspects should be dealt with first , why are libertarians so aligned with Republican Party"  It's the only way Dr Paul could get his message out to a large audience, nobody knows or cares about third party candidates.

ElizabethConley
ElizabethConley

Not Romney.  You can take it to the bank.  I am voting for Ron Paul.  I will never again try to guess which of the candidates is the least of the two evils.  From this day forward I'm only voting for people of good character.

goodfite
goodfite

So humiliating to be in your face cheated, defrauded, disenfranchized, shut up, shut down and shut out and then stick Rand Paul up there like some kind of decoy and we will follow along like mindless cattle or something. This is plan the creeps of the RNC have come up with, along with everything else, to "deal" with the Ron Paul  delegates.  We have been shown the highest level of disrespect and there is no way we can support it or reward it. Abuse of this magnitude can only get worse. Shake the dust off your feet and leave.

sameolbs
sameolbs

I am sure Rand means well but I am voting Gary Johnson. The "rule change" help me make my decision. Blatant corruption doesn't go over well with me.

Verd
Verd

Rand's just playing the crowd, and you're not the target audience sameolbs. He needs more than just the libertarian vote if he's going to win the office of President. It isn't about pleasing the party heads in the front row, or what they think. It's all about who is sitting in the next 100 rows. You got to win those people if he's ever to succeed in shrinking government and solving the various problems of the nation. You not voting Romney, in the long run, does little either way on that. Romney at his best is a slight tap on the brakes. The vehicle is still moving in the wrong direction.

deconstructiva
deconstructiva

Thanks, Katy. That’s the big question: do the Ron Paul fans stay true to their beliefs (like they claim to when then post here) and find an alternate to corporate sellout Romney – like Jonhson or make RP go indie – or just fall in line like good like R’s? I do hope they insist on a third choice – the GOP is broken and selling out to them is the worst option. Unless you’re a zillionaire or a teavangelical hell bent on literally making everyone else live life on YOUR terms, the R’s are NOT governing in your best interests (or governing at all, but I digress).

Kragskov
Kragskov

I never cared for Rand. In addition to the selling out of his father and the movement there is the matter of his troubling resemblance to Lee Harvey Oswald.

rkm1
rkm1

If you wish to NOT vote for either Obama, or his doppelganger Romney and you want to make a protest vote that isn't going to be recorded, you should really consider Gary Johnson. It doesn't mean leaving the Republican party, it is the best alternative to "Going along to get along" or voting for the "Lesser of two evils". A vote for Gary Johnson with the knowledge that these are the disenfranchised Ron Paul supporters, leaves a very clear message that will be sent to both the Republicans, Democrats, MSM and the entire world as the new direction of young (and older) Americans who seek to regain their lost liberties, reconstruct a healthy economy and change our destructive foreign policies.

Don't take my word for it, but If you take this in-depth quiz on www.isidewith.com , you will agree that Gary Johnson's political views are almost identical with Ron Paul's.

Thadd Replogle
Thadd Replogle

Let me preface by saying that I really, really disagree with

most of what Ron Paul says. I will give him credit for being one of the most

honest politicians alive. The way the RNC treated him is shameful. It is bad to

be attacked by the opposition, but being sniped from within just to shut down

dissent is a tragedy. Candidates like Ron Paul and Ralph Nader force the dialogue

within their parties. If the pre-ordained empty suits cannot respond to this

dialogue in a meaningful way, then perhaps they are not fit for office. Since I

am less opposed to Obama 2.0 than Romney 1.0, I have an ulterior motive in

hoping for Paul as a 3rd party option. Spoiler-effect aside, it

would be nice to see the party-establishment forced to answer to its constituents.

impact0900
impact0900

The Republicans don't even have loyalty in their own families, and yet they claim loyalty to the Constitution. The reality is, the only loyalty they have is to big money. 

SnarkyRichard
SnarkyRichard

 Rand is a douche with a bad toupee on his head and his foot in his mouth - in no way his father's son ! Looks like Gary Johnson is the candidate for Ron Paul supporters to vote for this election . But the one more party than a dictatorship sheeple can keep voting for the same two parties that got the country into this mess and stupidly expect different results !

Mike Hill
Mike Hill

Vote Ron Paul or not at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EverythingEva
EverythingEva

Gary Johnson!!......The only thing you will accomplish by not voting at all is letting all the airheaded people vote with no opposition! Just because we can't have Ron Paul doesn't mean we shouldn't vote for the next best thing!!! Gary Johnson has alot of ideas including health care and foreign affairs that are very similar. Not voting is stupid.

beadstallcup
beadstallcup

Rand Paul endorsed Willard Mitt Romney who, by fraud and deceit, very likely swindled Ron Paul, Rand's father no less, out of the Republican nomination. And remember, when Ron Paul asked if he would support Willard Mitt, Ron Paul said, "No, because I would not want invalidate my thirty years of work in the Congress." HELLO! Rand made a thoughtless and possibly self-serving move jumping off his father's great ship and then stabbing him right in the back. For it Rand Paul will be a one term Senator, as far as the majority of true-teaparty-leaning Republicans in Kentucky are concerned. The sooner this double talker, Rand Paul, is gone the better. If Rand Paul weasels himself a second term, it will be by the same kind of treachery and deceit used by another Senator from Kentucky, you know, the other one who very nearly got caught buggering children in Nebraska several years ago...

Rework Oh Ryan
Rework Oh Ryan

I'm sketchy on Rand, but not at all on Gary Johnson!

John Balzer
John Balzer

Rand Paul made a big impression in Tampa especially at the Gay Leather Bar 2606 on Wednesday night putting his hands up every willing man butt he would find. You  might think of this as pandering to the LGBT or maybe he just wanted to have some fun.

Benjamin M Lopez
Benjamin M Lopez

"Will the Ron Paul fans follow?"

No, never.  See, we have these things called principles.   That means we actually vote for who we believe in and who we believe will do the right thing, not the lesser of two evils.

And While Ron Paul has done his work to get the message out, the Revolution will continue by shifting our vote to Gary Johnson in 2012, who will be on the ballot in all 50 states.

Lionel Suarez
Lionel Suarez

Listen, even if Ron Paul supports Mitt Romney, we must not follow.  We were cheated of delegates, mocked, belittled, and made to look like fools.  We are free and moral people, and I have faith that as free and moral people we will not support the Statist and NeoCon war monger that is Mitt Romney or Obama for that matter.  Does the GOP think we're a bunch of idiots?  If we bend on this we will never be taken seriously again.  We must stand strong and not compromise!!!!!

Nathaniel Hamrick
Nathaniel Hamrick

great post. Belittling any of the people is hatred for America.

sanddust
sanddust

Totally agree. Vote Libertarian.

Britt John
Britt John

I'm posting about Ron Paul on ever media site because  the RNC and their thugs are disgusting. They reduced 32 year career down to a four min video and they think to we should be grateful?  I should be grateful for the great Moses for splitting the Red Sea and allowing the Paul supporters to come on over to their side-I guess! Why should I walk in line to keep  the peace with a group of so call freedom fighters who cheat and pay for what they want. I dont' know if they think we are single cell animals but we know the truth and is name is Ron Paul- not to be confuse with Rand Paul. I dont' care ,if Ron Paul decides to endorse Romney, because I will not let my vote got to waste....Gary Johnson will get my vote or I will write in Ron Paul...RNC are  gangster thugs with their strong arm tactics.  God Bless Paul

Suzi Saul
Suzi Saul

The liberty movement in search of a leader???!! You couldn't even mention Gary Johnson's name??!! OH but maybe you've never heard of him! 

Gary Johnson...the best kept secret in politics today

Rework Oh Ryan
Rework Oh Ryan

 I'm voting Gary Johnson.  He's as close to Paul as we can get now

Vote Real Vote Paul
Vote Real Vote Paul

Not for $200 Million Dollars and a house with a car elevator. The GOP committed political suicide by turning future conventions into nothing short of fascism; and to cosign and support something like that makes you "party" to the crime, My GOD!

Save the "change it from the inside out song amp; dance", save the "we gotta defeat Obama BS", who the hell in their right mind would trade one crook for the other?!? "lesser of 2 evils" get the F out of here...., a turd is a turd no matter the consistency; and all of Washington smells like A**.

How can someone talk about trading Liberty for Security when he threw his LIBERTY loving father under the bus to SECURE a spot in the "CLUB"? How? Because Rand is a traitor to Liberty, a sell-out to the establishment, and the GOP is nothing more then a crime syndicate. Actions speak louder then rhetoric!

The RNC left me..., I didn't leave the RNC. No Sympathy For The DEVILS!

Brian Frank
Brian Frank

 Im supporting Gov Gary Johnson

Want Gary in the debates? Call these folks amp; tell them to add Gary Johnson to the presidential polls:

GALLUP: (202) 715-3030

Rasmussen: (732) 776-9777

CNN: (404) 827-1500

chris87654
chris87654

Hopefully Ron Paul supporters will either sit out the election or vote against Romney.  Paul was a bit out there with some ideas, but he had some good points that could be worked with.  The GOP is a ham-handed bunch of greedy manipulators - they're fortunate their ignorant minions don't care to look past a man's color - they don't realize they'll be victims of middle class burdens along with the "lefties" if Romney wins (which I doubt).

Rework Oh Ryan
Rework Oh Ryan

 Oh, and the GOP is the "only" manipulative party, right?  You're one of those people who actually thinks the right and left are different, aren't you?

EverythingEva
EverythingEva

Don't sit out!! If you support Ron Paul then you should support the idea that sitting out is the same as letting the old pig headed majority of America pick the president. Use your brain people!! If you want things to change you need to take a stand and make an effort. Vote for America don't vote for politics!!! Gary Johnson is the closest thing to Ron Paul that we can get.

Suzi Saul
Suzi Saul

Why would they sit it out? They would be taken off the lists of "likely voters" for just sitting back and being quiet.

chris87654
chris87654

So that clown is representing the Tea Party?  Get serious TP folks - quit your whining and finger-pointing, get the smart ones of your group together, and come up with some solutions....  either that or bug out.   Conservatives and Baggers should really start their own party.

Immir
Immir

He's trying to keep from laughing at the idiot tea-tard. He uses those people, but I'm sure he considers them a joke.

DanielSparkPlugTanure
DanielSparkPlugTanure

"Then there's his son, Rand, twerpy dipshit, peddler of endless appeals

to his own victimization and all-around shameless whore—who campaigned

on his father's ideological legacy (and his Randroid first name), only

to spend the last two years nuzzling lovingly under the throat wattle of

Kentucky's own Futuristic Hyperturtle Mitch McConnell."

One of the few things I've ever read on Gawker that I actually agreed on. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Ron Paul was a principled man dressed as a politician. Rand Paul is a politician who bought his man suit at Wal-Mart and thinks he's fooling everyone.