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Greetings from Tampa, where the forecast calls for rain and all the Republican Convention coverage your eyeballs can handle.

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rokinsteve
rokinsteve

He's also selling poison mushroom cupcakes.  He hates people.

53underscore3
53underscore3

He does have this problem with spp. Homo, rockin'...

paulejb
paulejb

rokinsteve,

Than it is fortunate for you that you are not people, Stevie.

MomentoMori
MomentoMori

Here's an endthread just for you, paulie, since you like them sooo much.

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paulie says,

"And you won't find a greedier bunch than Facebook types who find pedophilia humorous"

and

"So, what's your position on Facebook's pedophilia page?"

Facebook is an evil pedophile-supporting organization. No sane person would support them or take money from them.

Meanwhile....

https://www.facebook.com/paule...

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

OTOH, at least paulie has some relatives and friends unlike Rod Burket.

53underscore3
53underscore3

Needle points to pedophile, if you axe me, MM.

But if you look it says that you can either send paleub a friend request or a message him.

I think that pretty well decides it, MM.  He's into messages...

;)

paulejb
paulejb

MomentoMori,

Did you have a point to make, Mori, or are you just demonstrating your malice?

53underscore3
53underscore3

I think that MM just demonstrated to you what a mirror looks like, paulejb.

Note to MM:

"He can dish it out, but he sure as hell can't take it." -- some guy or other

MrObvious
MrObvious

Question

You brag about how much common sense you have; so here is MM using logic 101 showing how you rail against Facebook in one breath and then have an account yourself and to you that is malice?

No paulejb - it's you being a clueless hypocrite.

You're the kind of people that will GLADLY do what you can in order to not pay taxes, then GLADLY take as much social security and medicare as possible while screaming 'NO MINE' if someone else wants it. And the reason why you can is because your argument is that you paid for it, so you're only getting your moneys worth out of it.

Truth be told you rather not pay for it, so if you didn't pay one dime you'd still take as much as you could because we all owe you for your imagined hard work.

It's like you attacking facebook for something you think is 'liberal' then use it yourself.

MrObvious
MrObvious

I am an American citizen, Barack Obama is President of the United States. Does that implicate me in every idiocy that he perpetrates?

According to your logic, yes.

paulejb
paulejb

MrObvious,

MM was just being his malicious self. 

I am an American citizen, Barack Obama is President of the United States. Does that implicate me in every idiocy that he perpetrates?

What does that LOGIC 101 tell you about that, Ob?

MomentoMori
MomentoMori

 I wasn't the one who responded to a post about campaign donations by accusing a company and it's members of being a "bunch than Facebook types who find pedophilia humorous".

Did you have a point, or were you just demonstrating your malice towards a major IT company and 100's of millions of it's members, one of which is yourself.

And before you accuse me of malice again, all I did was add "paulejb" to "facebook.com/". That doesn't exactly require one to be a hacker extraordinaire.

MrObvious
MrObvious

I can see you now, hunched over your keyboard, typing paulejb, one finger at a time, as you mutter imprecations.

Reminds me of someone that think using the word 'liberal' is the height of pretentious sophistication.

No amount of fancy words like 'imprecations' can wash out the smell of juvenile prancing quite like someone such as yourself that spend more time telling us just how fantastic you are but find it almost impossible to provide a simple argument without the need for partisan whining and condescending preening.

MomentoMori
MomentoMori

You accuse me of malice while accusing others of being pedophiles.

And what 'malice', paulie? I simply showed everyone what a hypocrite you are. I didn't lie. I didn't make up any childish scenarios about what you're doing. I didn't question your manhood, or your intelligence, or even your posture at the keyboard. In your unreasoning anger at anything even remotely connected to Obama, you resorted to accusations of condoning pedophilia. I can't think of a more malicious accusation.

After then, after being called out for being a hypocrite, you start insulting me, having no better argument. I can't paint you in any worse light than you paint yourself, paulie. Well done.

paulejb
paulejb

MomentoMori,

Glad you spend so much time thinking about me, Mori. It's satisfying to know that you care so much. 

I can see you now, hunched over your keyboard, typing paulejb, one finger at a time, as you mutter imprecations.

You people are an endless source of amusement even as malicious as you are.

rokinsteve
rokinsteve

MrO, It's been obvious to me for a long time that Paulie has no center, no soul, nothing.  Rusty's just bug-nuts.

53underscore3
53underscore3

Rusty is his right nut and there's a revolving door where paulejb's left nut is.

I just looked at 538 and that curve has meandered even further south since this morning.

Seems that the Ryan "bounce" is more of a lump, or something.

MrObvious
MrObvious

That's no true.

He has this ability of being 180 degree against anything Obama even if he'd normally agree.

He's the perfect party of no town bicycle.

rokinsteve
rokinsteve

Ending Thought #3:  Paulie amp; Rusty are mad cuz the Tampa terror meeting didn't happen today.  So they spend the day questioning other people's sexuality.

Can you say juvenile?  Yes you can! 

paulejb
paulejb

rokinsteve,

Can anyone here translate stupid? Stevie appears to be babbling incoherently.

paulejb
paulejb

53_3,

"She knows. And, she knows you."

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Really? I wonder how?

rokinsteve
rokinsteve

Ending thought #2: Paulie isn't introspective and has no mirrors in his house.  That explains all the same endless postings.  He's empty inside.

paulejb
paulejb

rokinsteve,

Can you believe that Stevie has been lurking here all day only to come up with this?

"Paulie isn't introspective and has no mirrors in his house.  That explains all the same endless postings.  He's empty inside."

I hope he didn't strain himself.

rokinsteve
rokinsteve

Mori, How do these 2 know so much about people's sexuality?

And especially anything deviant?  Gives 'em a thrill, I guess. 

rokinsteve
rokinsteve

Wait til after Nov 7th and they'll all get banned.  It's gonna get real nasty when Romney/Ryan go down. 

rokinsteve
rokinsteve

Romney talks about "birth certificates", "welfare queens" and "food stamps" 

and it's all innocent.  When is he gonna say "watermelons"?  

fhmadvocat
fhmadvocat

Republicans are always criticizing President Obama for never having worked in the private sector.  I have a question, since graduating from college, can anyone name one private sector job that Paul Ryan has had?  He has been working in Washington since he graduated.

paulejb
paulejb

fhmadvocat,

Just one more reason to vote for Mitt. He has more private sector experience than Barry, Crazy Joe and Paul Ryan combined.

fhmadvocat
fhmadvocat

Last night I saw a wonderful documentary on Herbert Hoover.  President Hoover was a great humanitarian and a fantastic businessman.  However, he was a lousy president.  Now a wonderful humanitarian and a fantastic businessman, doesn't that sound like one of the nominees for President?

paulejb
paulejb

fhmadvocat,

Damn! You are right. That's Barack Obama to a T!

NP042
NP042

So you're saying Obama is a fantastic businessman?

paulejb
paulejb

NP042,

He's been giving the country the business for 3 1/2 years. 

outsider2011
outsider2011

More on Matthews and his honesty.

This is the third article in about as many days about the media finally calling the GOP on their lies - and i'm happy to see it:

 

“You are playing the ethnic card”

Chris Matthews says what most pundits won't:

Republicans are using Obama's ethnicity to appeal to white voters

I’m in Tampa this week, and it may not be the best place to promote a book titled “What’s the Matter With White People?”

but I’m going to try. In fact, my title has two meanings – sometimes I

think my team, liberal Democrats, talks politics in ways that can seem

to leave whites out of our multiracial future. But thanks to the sharp

racial turn of Mitt Romney’s campaign, I’m only getting to talk about

one of the title’s meanings: What the he11 is the matter with (some) white people?

Some Republicans have been shocked, shocked when I’ve referred to Romney and Paul Ryan as “white and whiter,”

or noted that nine out of 10 Republicans, according to Gallup, are

white, in a country that’s only 63 percent white. They think it’s unfair

to note that racial disparity and insist it’s Democrats who are playing

the race card.

That’s why it was so interesting to read in the

New York Times Sunday that Republican strategists are admitting

(anonymously, of course) that the Romney campaign is very concerned

about its inability to close the deal with a crucial component of its

base: working-class whites. He’s “heading into his nominating convention

with his advisers convinced he needs a more combative footing against

President Obama in order to appeal to white, working-class voters,” and

so he “has added a harder edge … injecting volatile cultural themes into

the race.”

Ya think?

With Chris Matthews a notable

exception (see video below) the political class spent all weekend

debating whether Romney’s descent into birtherism Friday – he told an

all-white crowd “Nobody’s ever asked to see my birth certificate,” to

cheers – was a harmless joke, an unfortunate gaffe or a deliberate dog

whistle to the anti-Obama base. (I’ll take dog whistle for $ 200, Alex.)

But Romney seems disappointed that so many remain so dense about what

he’s doing. He just keeps taking it one more step.

If

his lying ads accusing Obama of gutting the welfare system’s work

requirements by giving Republican governors program waivers didn’t

provide enough racial coding for you – remember who the “welfare queens”

are – on Sunday he told USA Today that Obama granted the waivers to

“shore up his base.” You know, that vast base of welfare recipients who

love the man Newt Gingrich once called “the food stamp president.”

During the primary, Romney left the outright race-baiting to Gingrich

and his other challengers. Now he’s descended to doing it himself.

Still don’t see any racial appeal? In the New York Times today, the great Tom Edsall caught something

that I frankly hadn’t in Romney’s ads accusing Obama of cutting $ 700

billion from Medicare in order to shore up “Obamacare.” (Paul Ryan’s

budget cuts the same $ 700 billion, by the way, but spends it on tax

breaks for the wealthy.) One ad features the face of a worried white

senior, with the words:

You paid into Medicare for

years — every paycheck. Now when you need it, Obama has cut $ 716 billion

from Medicare… Why? To pay for Obamacare. The money you paid for your

guaranteed health care is going to a massive new government program that

is not for you.

Medicare recipients, Edsall notes,

are overwhelmingly white: 10 percent of Medicare recipients are black, 8

percent are Hispanic, while 77 percent are white. The Affordable Care

Act is expected to extend coverage to 30 million uninsured people, of

whom almost half – 46 percent – are white, while 30.7 percent are

Latino, 16.3 percent are black and 5.2 percent are Asian.  So yes, 15

million whites will get coverage, the largest single racial group, but

Romney is betting that white senior resentment at anyone else getting

help will carry the day.

That will also require white seniors not

to realize that Ryan is cutting the same amount from Medicare (via a

change in provider reimbursements that both sides say isn’t expected to

impact patient care.) To my knowledge, Edsall is the first reporter to

break out the racial nature of Romney’s Medicare appeal. More people in

the media need to be calling this what it is: a dangerously divisive

racial strategy.

To be fair, some Republicans are bothered by it. I

never thought I’d praise Dan Quayle, but he was right to tell the

Times: “The Republican Party needs to re-establish its philosophy of the

big tent with principles,” said Dan Quayle, the Republican former vice

president. “The philosophy you hear from time to time, which is

unfortunate, is one of exclusion rather than inclusion. You have to be

expanding the base, expanding the party, because compared to the

Democratic Party, the Republican Party is a minority party.”

“The Republican Party is a minority party.” That’s former VP Dan Quayle talking, not me.

But

RNC Chair Reince Priebus isn’t listening. He dismissed Chris Matthews’s

charges that Romney’s descent into birtherism had a racial tinge by

railing against Obamacare as “European” – just more “otherism” by a

leader of the minority party. Matthews wasn’t having it. “You are

playing the ethnic card,” he told Priebus. A lot of us were cheering.

Watch:

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/2...

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

outsider, NY Magazine had an interesting take on this. More discussion in the complete article at the link.

A Republican strategist said something interesting and revealing on Friday, though it largely escaped attention in the howling gusts of punditry over Mitt Romney’s birth certificate crack and a potential convention-altering hurricane. The subject was a Ron Brownstein story outlining the demographic hit rates each party requires to win in November. To squeak out a majority, Mitt Romney probably needs to win at least 61 percent of the white vote — a figure exceeding what George H.W. Bush commanded over Michael Dukakis in 1988. The Republican strategist told Brownstein, “This is the last time anyone will try to do this” — “this” being a near total reliance on white votes to win a presidential election.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2...

outsider2011
outsider2011

Thanks Ivy.

More and more people are a) saying Mitt is targeting white votes (which don't mean less as paulie tries to imply - nor do they mean more, which he ignores ) and that b) Romney and his campaign are dishonest

paulejb
paulejb

Ivy_B,

Oh? Are white votes worth less now, Ivy?

paulejb
paulejb

outsider2011,

What does ol' Tingle Up His Leg have to say?

paulejb
paulejb

MrObvious,

"You can't help anyone before you help yourself to some common sense."

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Common sense? Like this, Ob?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... 

You people are so far out on the fringe that you would require the Hubble telescope to see common sense.

MrObvious
MrObvious

You people are so far out on the fringe that you would require the Hubble telescope to see common sense.

Right

If we look at your daily 'contribution' of common sense I can safely say that I really don't have to worry about you being the hub of reason.

DonQuixotic
DonQuixotic

Ironic considering Republicans have been so against the Webb telescope.

paulejb
paulejb

DonQuixotic,

What part of broke don't you get, Don? Bambi has mortgaged the nation with China.