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Whenever I look at the moon it reminds me of the moment over four decades ago when I realized that even though we were farther away from earth than two humans had ever been, we were not alone.

Virtually the entire world took that memorable journey with us. I know I am joined by millions of others in mourning the passing of a true American hero and the best pilot I ever knew. My friend Neil took the small step but giant leap that changed the world and will forever be remembered as a landmark moment in human history.

View this image ›In this July 20, 1969 photo, Apollo 11 astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin E. "Buzz" Aldrin, the first men to land on the moon, plant the U.S. flag on the lunar surface. Photo was made by a 16mm movie camera inside the lunar module, shooting at one frame per second. Image by Anonymous / AP

I had truly hoped that in 2019, we would be standing together along with our colleague Mike Collins to commemorate the 50th Anniversary of our moon landing. Regrettably, this is not to be. Neil will most certainly be there with us in spirit.

View this image ›Apollo 11 crew: Michael Collins, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. Via:

On behalf of the Aldrin family, we extend our deepest condolences to Carol and the entire Armstrong family. I will miss my friend Neil as I know our fellow citizens and people around world will miss this foremost aviation and space pioneer.

View this image ›Buzz Aldrin on the moon, photo by Neil Armstrong. Image by NEIL ARMSTRONG / AP

May he Rest in PeaceBUZZ ALDRIN

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Armstrong's family said, "While we mourn the loss of a very good man, we also celebrate his remarkable life and hope that it serves as an example to young people around the world to work hard to make their dreams come true, to be willing to explore and push the limits, and to selflessly serve a cause greater than themselves.

"For those who may ask what they can do to honor Neil, we have a simple request: Honor his example of service, accomplishment and modesty, and the next time you walk outside on a clear night and see the moon smiling down at you, think of Neil Armstrong and give him a wink."


Neal Armstrong has died.  One small step..One giant leap.  His explorations continue.

Benevolent Lawyer
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In 2009, the NYT in a series of articles affirmed that 36 million Americans

relied on food stamps. More than 24 million of them were white, 8

million were African American and 6 million were Hispanic of any race.

This entire wanting "free things" discussion and welfare seems to create

an illusion that in terms of SHEER DOLLARS spent, that the black

community gets more welfare than whites. This is false. Percentage wise,

there are more blacks and Hispanics on welfare. (Hey, do not demonize

the poor) But numbers wise, there are tens of millions more whites on

welfare than blacks. 

In an interesting article (1991), Barbara Ehrenreich in her TIME piece titled, Welfare: A White Secret points out that 61 percent of the people

receiving welfare in the United States are white, yet welfare is

commonly thought of as a program for black people. She asks, "If the

Lakers were 61 percent white and on a winning streak, would we be

calling them a `black team'?"

The author also stated, “So

our confession stands: white folks have been gobbling up the welfare

budget while blaming someone else. But it's worse than that. If we look

at Social Security, which is another form of welfare, although it is

often mistaken for an individual insurance program, then whites are the

ones who are crowding the trough.

We receive almost twice as much per

capita, for an aggregate advantage to our race of 10 billion dollars a year --

much more than the 3.9 billion dollar advantage African Americans gain from

their disproportionate share of welfare. One sad reason: whites live an

average of six years longer than African Americans, meaning that young

black workers help subsidize a huge and growing ‘overclass of white

retirees.’ In this same article she goes on to say “Whites, near poor

and middle class, need help too -- as do the many African Americans,

Hispanics and ‘others’ who do not qualify for aid but need it


Yes, blacks make up only 12 percent of the population, so why are they 33 percent of the welfare population? Because,

Ehrenreich says, of a variety of social factors, including the obvious

fact that blacks are more likely than whites to be poor. And

remember, welfare is a program for poor people so it would be peculiar

indeed if blacks were not a disproportionately large part of the welfare


This poverty is the result of many factors, but

surely it is a better explanation for black reliance on welfare than is

any racial stereotype about black "addiction to the dole." But, as

Ehrenreich emphasizes, you would never know that listening to some of

the political rhetoric in this country over the past decade.


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Paul Dirks

One of the interesting things that the folks who insist that 'Jesus said nothing about government" are missing can be summed up in one word: Democracy. In Roman times, the notion that individuals could be accountable for the actions of their government was fairly unthinkable. Now it's a reality. We as Americans are individually accountable for the actions of the government. The decisions to go to war AND to feed the poor flow down into our hands. Our responsibility is to participate.


Gods original intent for a Jewish "community" summed up nicely, feel free to distribute to other topics!

Leviticus 25:8-50 — Jubilee: Israel’s agricultural economy revolved around a 49-year cycle which ended in the 50th year of Jubilee. At this time, liberty was proclaimed throughout the land. Indentured servants were released, debts were canceled, and land rights were redistributed to their original recipients with every family receiving back their own share in the inheritance of the land that God had given them. “Here, if ever, is the ultimate relativization of private property. On average, each person or family had at least a once-in-a-lifetime chance to start afresh, no matter how irresponsibly they had handled their finances or how far into debt they had fallen” (Craig Blomberg, Neither Poverty nor Riches, 45) and no matter what sort of misfortune or natural disaster had befallen them. As one might imagine, such wide-ranging debt cancellation and land redistribution would have had an enormous leveling effect on class divisions within Israel’s economy. Even when land rights consolidated into the hands of a few, Jubilee decentralized the nation’s wealth on a regular basis, which placed a limit on the amount of debt that one could incur as well as the wealth that one could accumulate over long periods of time. Although the year of Jubilee is no longer applicable in any strict legal sense, this portion of God’s law remains relevant for Christians today because Jesus defined his own gospel ministry according to the socioeconomic priorities of Jubilee (Luke 4:16-21). See Leviticus theme essay Jubilee and Jesus.

Leviticus 25:14-17 — Property rights could only be sold for temporary periods of time because the land ultimately belonged to God (Leviticus 25:23) and was therefore redistributed, family by family, once every 50 years. As the “real landlord,” God held Israel accountable for everything they did with the land. “This is what lies behind the detailed laws in the Torah concerning the use of land, preservation of people’s share in it, justice and compassion in sharing its produce, protection of those who work on it, special provision for those who become poor and have to sell it, and all the other specific economic mechanisms designed to sustain an equitable distribution and enjoyment of the resources God has given to his people” (Christopher Wright, Knowing Jesus through the Old Testament, 225). Likewise, Christians are called to live in conscious recognition of the fact that God owns everything and we are his stewards. This means that if any of our brothers and sisters’ basic needs our not being met, we have the fundamental responsibility to redistribute our own personal resources in reflection of the fact that all our belongings don’t really belong to us but to God, who calls us to use them with equity and love. See Leviticus theme essay Jubilee and Jesus and Numbers theme essay Supporting Ministers and Missionaries.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

On Political Rulers and Poverty:

Many biblical texts call on political

rulers to use their power to deliver the

needy and oppressed (see Psalm 82:3-4,

Proverbs 29:4, Jeremiah 22:2-3, 23:5, Daniel

4:27). Psalm 72 describes the role of the

king in advancing economic justice:

“Mayhe judge your people with righteousness,

and your poor with justice. ... For he delivers

the needy when they call, the poor and

those who have no helper” (Psalm 72:2,


When selfish, powerful people deprive

others of their rightful access to productive

resources, the state must use its power to

intervene. When individuals and institutions

in the community do not or cannot

provide basic necessities for “those who

have no helper,” government has a God given

responsibility to save lives.


Where does the bible talk about unbriddled capitalism, or democracy or nationalism. Where does Jesus say blessed are the rich GOP.

42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.

Love Your Enemies 43 "You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

 First, Scripture harshly warns

those who acquire wealth by exploiting the

poor. “You who make iniquitous decrees . . .

that widows may be your spoil, and that you

may make the orphans your prey! What will

you do on the day of punishment?” (Isaiah

10:1-4; see also Isaiah 3:14-15, Amos 2:7,

Micah 2:1-5).

Secondly, God’s anger is also

aroused by people who have plenty, yet

neglect the needy. In Ezekiel 16:46, God

remarks on the destruction of the city of

Sodom: “This was the guilt of your sister

Sodom: she and her daughters had pride,

excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did

not aid the poor and needy” (see also Luke

16:19-31). In God’s eyes, ignoring the needs

of the poorest is as grievous as idolatry and

sexual abominations.

The biblical record demonstrates that

ultimately, God judges societies by how

they treat the people who are most vulnerable.

That is how much God cares for the



here's more...and many more after this..

Where is support for hording, where does it say we should support a system of gross consumerism and extreme wealth disparity, where the scripture that promotes the sentiment of "its mine, you can't have any". If we are a Christian nation with a majority of leaders that claim Christianity.... Why is government so despised? Corrupt... Sure....inefficient....can be. Have the corruption and inefficiency costs of all those slacker government workers cost many Trillions as the banking industry and their credit default swaps. I hear no condimnation there, just GOP saying, take away what little esha they have and letem do it again....they promise to behave!

1 Timothy 6:17-19 New International Version (NIV)

17 Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. 18 Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. 19 In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.

1 Timothy 6:6-11 New International Version (NIV)

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. 8 But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. 9 Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

Final Charge to Timothy

11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.



Wrong, wrong, wrong. The gospel is ALL about community. It's not about the individual alone. You just can't give an honest admittal that the first Christian community was communistic in structure as well as sentiment. Not only did Acts describe this as I've listed AGAIN BELOW but Act 2 describes the same thing as well as showing the Holy Spirit enforcing this strucure. Are you Mormon, do you not accept Jesus as part of Godhead (that would make him and Holy spirit on same page)? The disciples and Paul also repeated this sentiment.... Or aren't they to be taken seriously? "bear one another burdens" ...this is plural not singular. Acts 4 is not unclear in this being a community structure. Stephen was put in charge in Acts to "distribute resourses" I'm sorry if you can't handle Act 2 amp; 4 and mayny, many other scriptures that show this ain't just about you, but as below, there they are. Are you like Jefferson and cut out the parts of the bible you don't like?

Here's a few and sharing. Now were in the NT scriptures do you get approval of supporting a system based on greed. And MULTIPLE, showing community and sharing. It would be great if churches could handle all issues of poverty, but as depression showed, they can't deal with "disribution" and aid on a national level . I'm sorry your Chritianity is so self centered in its approach... But the preponderance of scripture says otherwise!

1 Peter 4:9

Cheerfully share your home with those who need a meal or a place to stay.

Hebrews 13:2

Don't forget to show hospitality to strangers,for some who have done this have entertained angelswithout realizing it

John 13:34-35

So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. Your love for one another will proveto the world that you are my disciples."

Romans 12:9-10

Don't just pretend to love others. Really love them. Hate what is wrong. Hold tightly to what is good. Love each other with genuine affection, and take delight in honoring each other.

Philippians 2:4

Don't look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too.

All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.


Ob'd says:

No he wouldn't. Jesus would not in any way shape and form care if a government took care of their own citizens. His entire life and story was to heal the sick, clothe the naked and feed the hungry. It would be idiotic to think that Jesus would object to a government doing that any more than he would a induvidual. Where do you get your drivel from? Have you ever read the bible?

And considering that he would find it very hard for anyone to follow in his footstep that didn't first give all is worldly belongings away, he'd find your statement fully perplexing.

His distain for hording money and possessions is clear throughout the new testament. Only righties seems to have skipped over that part and made religion into a money hording prospect.


Please show in the Bible in Christ's own words that he said he "didn't care in any shape or form if a government took care of their own citizens".  

His entire gospels were for the individual.  How the individual should emulate his example.  He did not "command" that you should give all you have or any part of what you have to anyone.  He only ASKED that you follow his example. His example of CHARITY and good will towards others.  No social justice, no green jobs, no idols  or other GODs before him.  

He "called" upon those disciples to follow him.  To be his shepherds in the new religion we know today as Christianity.  A tax collector, a rich man (Treasurer or Banker), and fishermen.  As we know the occupations of some, we don't know the occupations of the others.  

Those he "called" he asked that they give up everything and follow him.  A mathetes.  To learn, and then to spread his gospels, his teachings.  They did and dropped what they were doing instantly and followed the Lamb.  They gave up all their worldly possessions, but they were never "commanded" to do so.  They did so willingly of their own free will.  The same as we are also urged to do, but not "required" or commanded to do as you so erroneously profess.  

Christ didn't set up a commune.  He didn't set up a Kabutz.  He went around the country preaching the gospels to all who would hear.  No communist "community", no socialist Utopia.  He revealed the "Father" and the Holy Spirit so that when you opened your mind and heart you would know and understand.  

It was those who followed him who set up the Churches across the land where today we know Christianity can be found in every corner of the Earth.  

But it is still your choice as an individual even today to be a Christian.  No one, not even God is forcing you to believe.  You can believe in a brass Monkey if you so choose.  But if you believe that any government is going to give you your rights, your freedom, your ability to believe as you choose then you will be sorely disappointed.  If you believe that same government is also going to take care of all your needs, you are also wrong.  For that same government shall take it away from you as fast as it gives.



The Rock center piece last night was very complimentary to Mormonism. Only touched on few problems. No conserv can complain about anti rigious bias based on that piece. There was one potential bad side effect . They played up Mormons high level in many corporations and how they try and bring up other Mormons behind them. Add to that, showing many Mormans excited about Romney and how they feel part of the main stream and excepted now. I bet in the back of the minds of the most fundamentalists they were thinking something like, "oh my God, with all that power and wealth and renewed enthusiam, they could spread Luke wildfire and end up controli.g the economy, ...we can't let that happen". It will be interesting.g to see what the final fundamentalist turnout will be!

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Benevolent Lawyer

From the Bible on the poor despite the nonsense LiberalLies was spouting:

"If one of your countrymen becomes poor and sells some of his property,

his nearest relative is to come and redeem what his countryman has sold.

. . . If one of your countrymen becomes poor and is unable to support

himself among you, help him as you would an alien or a temporary

resident, so he can continue to live among you. . . . If one of your

countrymen becomes poor among you and sells himself to you, do not make

him work as a slave." Leviticus 25:25, 35, 39

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Benevolent Lawyer

If Obama had this sort of politically entwined religious church-- in which the founder advocated for a Theocracy, and ran for President of the USA under that banner, the news cycle would be crazy. But Romney, who is seen as the white horse savior and the god who is to install the Theocracy-- has the temerity to make birther remarks?? 

This is crazy!!



I do not want to demonize any religion as that is the job of conservs. Like Christianity at points in time, Mormonism has many skelletons in the closet, racism and polygamy being the most obvious. There is significant differences that puts it outside traditioal Christianity in many respects. Part of there problem is the racism issue wasn't adressed until 1978 and its roots are stuck in their scripture.

Earlier I pointed out that for years, Evangelical fundamentalists demonized and called Mormanism, satanic and thoroughly Unchristian. NOW, radical "christian" fundies like Laura Ingram are accusing "lefties" of digging up dirt on Mormanism. What total two-faced Hypoctacy.

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Poliathiest: I provided the BYU link but it was nothing like it was last year. I leave you to search it out, google other sources and make up your mind about how Mitt Romney's religion, no matter what he says, is important in his run for the White House. Romney is also known in Mormon circles as the Mighty and Strong Savior.

There is a magazine called "The Dialogue".. it is written by Mormons and it addresses Smith's run in some detail. Although of course, as a Christian, I would write favorably about my religion, and I imagine they would too. Read and make up your mind.

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Poliathiest: Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon religion ran for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES in 1844 as an independent Commander in Chief of an “army of God” advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a Mormon-ruled theocracy.

Challenging Democrat, James Polk and Whig, Henry Clay – Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a

government and God shall damn them.”

Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church. Smith’s insertion of religion into politics and his call for a “THEODEMOCRACY where God and people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men in righteous

matters” created a sensation and drew hostility from the outside world.

Many Mormons in private still believe this Smith's world view, and some think Romney is the savior who will bring the theocracy to pass. Please go to the BYU site and do a search on this. If they have not purged it, it will still be there. Since Romney was selected as the flag bearer, Mormon sites are being sanitized, it is absurd. :)


This is priceless!!!

HEH: Reader Arthur Barie writes: “The best snark on Biden going to Tampa that I’ve heard is, ‘If the Dems send Biden to Tampa, the GOP will punch back twice as hard and send Biden to Charlotte.’”

Via Instapundit

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Anyway, on an unrelated issue. I wonder why Armstrong was stripped of his titles. He did not test positive, and it seems so unfair to Cycling enthusiasts like me. I think this whole Republican Convention is a bad omen. It brings severe weather, and rocks the sports world by bringing disaster to folks like Armstrong.

Lets hope NO Gold Medal winners in Track and Field running from the Olympics get hit by the bad omen that is Mitt Romney and his silly convention. He might be the anti-Christ as so many are claiming that he is!! Who knows?  (Just Kidding.. kinda HAHA  :) )


Mr. Obvious, exactly

One of the things I'm trying to get these guys to realize is they keep claiming Jesus and Christianity doesn't relate to "nation" , but due to lack of formal "nation which they did not have quantity or desire to achieve, they did have a community "government" and that "government" emphasised shared resources, many early Christians sold themselves into slavery for the sake of community. The biggest hypocricy those is conservs say you can't take Christian sentiment and apply it to government, yet they want GOVERNMENT. To enforce their selected "understanding" of scripture. CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS! They can't even see their hypocricy.



"His entire life and story was to heal the sick, clothe the naked and feed the hungry."


Exactly. He admonished us to follow in his shoes in those pursuits. He did not suggest we pawn off our individual responsibility to some government bureaucracy.



"We want everyone to have the chance to make it as big as they'd like to go."


Now that's a pile of dreck.

Remember this: 


To all non- conservs, don't be afraid to use Jesus, the early church thought like you more than conservs, even though not all liberal thought is compatible, but equitability and sharing is what Jesus spoke of most, especially compared to GOP sponsor of the rich and greed conservs , you know who you are. You guys keep spouting 1700 year old Christian thought. I'll stick to the obvious intent and direction of the NT and those that were disciples of the disciples. But I'm sure Darby and others, centuries after it inception understand the intent of scriptures more than those that learned from the disciples themselves!


Sound like the oligarcy we have now. Among my people are the wicked 26 who lie in wait like men who snare birds and like those who set traps to catch people. Like cages full of birds, 27 their houses are full of deceit; they have become rich and powerful and have grown fat and sleek. 28 Their evil deeds have no limit; they do not seek justice. They do not promote the case of the fatherless; they do not defend the just cause of the poor. Should I not punish them for this?” 29 declares the LORD. “Should I not avenge myself on such a nation as this?



They even put in place someone.e to enforce equitable redistribution. Stephen. Also, apparently god likes redistribution because on the 50 th years Jubilee, every one got back their original family property nom atter what deal had been made. .....ouch!


For all the liberal religious pretenders. In all his words to the faithful, Jesus Christ never once mentioned a government program. Jesus preached individual charity to each of us. He never said we could pawn off our responsibilities to some government agency.

Luke 12:33

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)"Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth."

...nor government bureaucrat encroach. 



"You could have saved your rant; we can go back to your first comment here and it's clear that you never even tried."


Oh? What was my first comment here, Ob?


Poltergeist says:

Yes. Jesus was a pacifist socialist.


Wrong, Christ was for CHARITY.  

The "economic policy" which Christ professed was not to spend all your time trying to build wealth, to "bank it all away".  That you would be rewarded more by professing your Christian beliefs to your fellow man.  To follow in the footsteps of Christ himself.  That to waste so much time building wealth was time not spent in worship to God, and following those footsteps of Christ.  It had nothing to do with being "evil" with money.  Rich versus poor, or even taking care of the poor.  It was about ensuring YOURSELF to God's good grace by your own deeds and actions.  God does not punish wealth, God will punish you for knowing and still being stupid. 

The passage reads,

And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me.14And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? 15And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.16And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: 17And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits? 18And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.19And I will say to my soul, "Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry". 20But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? 21So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

On Foodstamps: "For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink" CHARITY

On national defense: "love your enemy" ; "do not return evil with evil but with love" ; turn the other cheek"; "blessed are the peacemakers" ; "this world is not my kingdom" ; "those that live by the sword, shall die by the sword"

Meaning if you are someone who is always looking for a fight, you will die by that same means. George Washington, the most religious of all the founding Fathers took up the sword, but he did so knowing the outcome would be nothing shy of fantastic for the people of this country. He lamented that he was called to lead the army against the British, but he knew deep down in his heart he had to do it. In your scenario, Washington would or should have never taken up the "sword". If you believe that, why do you live in this great country to start with? The teachings of Christ was for individuals, not nations. So he says "whatever is Caesars, render to Caesar".... His only concern is for YOUR soul, not the soul of a Nation. Nations can turn, become evil. Why would Christ be concerned about that? He is concerned for YOUR soul.

" and they sold property from time to time and brought it before the feet of the disciples and it was sold and distributed to all as each had need"


It doesn't say give up all your worldly goods PERIOD. It says "from time to time". That is charity.

Now go away, you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.



"Seriously, that's the best you have? That's real funny cause its the GOP and Evangelical leaders that seem to love going around spouting scripture. Until we find out about their gay lover!"


Touch a nerve, poli? 


The newest "outrage" from the liberal media and the Obama campaign.  

Apparently Romney made a joke about his birth at a campaign stop in MI today.  Here is the video from Think Progress who are going bat crap crazy over what Mitt said...

Suffice it to say, if someone questioned my birth here in the US.  Not only could I produce the real birth certificate, but I could also give copies of the original hospital records of my birth.

Somehow "Barack" Barry Hussein Soetoro-Obama cannot or will not produce those hospital records, why is that?  And, I am older than Barry. Hmmmm, the things people go "Hmmmm" about.