Exorcising Palin: the Paul Ryan Pick

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Rep. Paul Ryan

My new story in this week’s print edition of TIME is about politics, but it’s also a kind of ghost story. The ghost is Sarah Palin, who haunted Mitt Romney’s search for a running mate from the beginning. The one thing Romney’s team knew they could not do was pick someone who’d be branded a lightweight like Palin. In choosing Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, Romney has tapped an anti-Palin: a policy wonk and budget expert whose smarts no one doubts. “If you look at the vice presidential history, I think this is the first guy to get there based on policy,” House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy, a friend of Ryan’s told me.

The question is whether Romney got more substance than he really wants. The choice of Ryan immediately reframed a campaign debate largely based on the economy around Ryan’s budget plans, which call for dramatic cuts to federal spending and an overhaul of Medicare. Democrats launched their attacks before the confetti had hit the ground. “Romney is totally tethered to the Ryan Plan,” says Democratic Representative Chris Van Hollen, a leading party strategist. Like many Democrats, Van Hollen says he likes Ryan personally–“we sort of hit it off,”  he tells me. When Ryan became House Budget Committee chairman in early 2011, and Van Hollen the committee’s ranking member, the two men went out for beers on Capitol Hill and discussed how they could disagree on policy without making it personal. But disagree they do. The Ryan plan, Van Hollen says, “is an uncompromising right-wing Tea Party manifesto that enshrines the Grover Norquist pledge and  provides big tax breaks to wealthy Americans at the expense of everyone and everything else.” (Other than that, he loves it!)

Republican campaign strategists are in a minor panic about the impact Democratic “Mediscare” attacks on Ryan’s plan to turn Medicare into a voucher-style system might have in the 2012 elections. But Ryan’s defenders say not to worry. “Paul is the best communicator,” says McCarthy. “He’s not from a Republican district. But he has won it every time by going out talking and listening to the people. He has done it based on ideas.”

Still, “it was a risk” to choose Ryan, says Dan Schnur, a former communications director to John McCain’s 2000 presidential campaign now at the University of Southern California. “If this ends up making the election about entitlements, then that’s a much steeper hill for Romney to climb.”

You can read more about the pros and cons of Romney’s Ryan pick, the thinking at Romney headquarters in Boston, and the things Ryan has in common with Palin after all … by clicking here.

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Hughes Hunt
Hughes Hunt

Did you know that Willard Mitt Romney is actually a psychopath, according to the Hare Psychopathy checklist? To Romney, being presumptive GOP candidate is a self-fulfilling Mormon prophesy!  Wait for surprises and revelations later from Gawker.com and Wikileaks about Romney and Ryan on or before November 5, 2012. Moreover, did you know that ,  Senator Harry Reid is correct about the fact that Romney has paid zero taxes for ten years? Furthermore, Romney, for having committed yet undisclosed criminal acts,  is a traitor, unpatriotic at least and anti-America at best. More revelations from Gawker.com and Wikileaks later, at the right place, at the right time, so that Willard Mitt Romney, a.k.a. Mr. Pants on Fire,  wished  he never ran for president. Did you know that Romney has been preparing, training  for president the past  twenty years,   but he has essentially been running for president since 2006?   Who knew that what is known about Willard Mitt Romney is just a tip of the iceberg of yet undisclosed criminal acts,  unprosecuted   temporarily due to money, power, influence and insufficient evidence,  for which reason there are 33 billionaire donors in  his campaign of mass deception? If only you, 99 per centers  including die-hard Republicans, subconsciously blind to the truth due to ignorance, tradition, twisted logic and peer pressure, let your eyes be opened to the truth,  based on all things considered,  that Romney fits perfectly the profile of  a psychopath,  according  to the checklist of  Hare Psychopathy, you would know beyond the shadow of doubt that Willard Mitt Romney cannot be trusted, and is evidently disqualified and not fit to be president.

Mark Vogl
Mark Vogl

If Sarah is a light weight your knowledge of politics indicates you should be writing your column with crayons!  Pathetic.

Jfante1452
Jfante1452

If you think Palin is a heavyweight then you are thinking with crayons. Double pathetic.

bartleby69
bartleby69

Ryan, with that perpetual grimace of his, always looks like a guy whose getting his nuts squeezed.

seatofmars
seatofmars

If you read even a smidgeon of  Ayn Rand, you'll know exactly where paul Ryan his apparently 'daisy fresh'socio-economic ideas. It is perhaps fortunate for Paul Ryan that most Americans don't read.

Corn_is_a_grain
Corn_is_a_grain

Like many people, at first, I was right there cheering this choice for VP. Nobody could have celebrated more than I did, but as I learned more about him it all kinda went sour. I am not yet 55, and I understand his plan will reduce my medicare benefits to a mere almost worthless voucher.  The rich don't care about that, since they have money to buy the best healthcare Also, Ryan will have healthcare for life, but for the average American, it will hit us hard in the wallet.

Beth
Beth

 Except Romney is running with HIS OWN plan.  Maybe you should look at it.

Jfante1452
Jfante1452

Can you say what Romney's plan is?

gysgt213
gysgt213

Ryan's on words to Britt Hume:  "I don't want to get wonky on you because we haven't run the numbers yet.".

Only inside the beltway does this pretend this guy is an actual wonk or expert on anything work.  Is that not getting wonky or an admission we haven't done our home work?

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http://www.alternet.org/hot-ne... 

Jfante1452
Jfante1452

He's a so-called economic expert because he and other republicans say he is. The actual arithmetic paints a different picture.

Blackwater
Blackwater

Let's see, Sarah Palin was a MAYOR who turned a dirt road village into the fastest growing city in Alaska. She built infrastructure and lured in major stores from around the country. She did this while lowering taxes. Thanks to Palin Wasilla is the trading hub for the entire Mat-Su Valley, an area roughly the size of Delaware.  Around 50,000 people a day shop there, all because of the policies Palin put in place.

As the state's powerful oil and gas commissioner Palin uncovered massive corruption and started going after the entire Republican Party, as well as oil company executives.

The FBI was still frog marching corrupt Republican lawmakers off to prison months after  Palin took office as Governor.

Palin was the best governor in the country. Was better on fiscal issues, job creation, as well as budget and liability management. She also had the highest approval rating of any elected official in the country.

Palin sat as the second most powerful Governor in the Country. In 2008 the Wall Street Journal wrote: " Compared to Bill Clinton, Sarah Palin is an Executive Giant."

Paul Ryan has been a member of Congress who voted for TARP, the auto bailouts, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, SCHIP expansion, and so on. Hard to tell him from a democrat.

To say Palin is a "lightweight" compared to Ryan, or any other member of Congress, isn't just laughable, it's idiotic.

"Governor Sarah Palin’s Incredible Executive Accomplishments":

http://thespeechatimeforchoosi...

Jfante1452
Jfante1452

You just proved the notion that people believe what they want to believe.

bcinaz
bcinaz

"... a policy wonk and budget expert whose smarts no one doubts."

Well I certainly qualify as 'no one'.  And I haven't  yet heard Ryan make a smart argument with real statistics, real math, real outcomes.  He doesn't correctly identify causality and when he answers questions he speaks 'word salad' and sounds a lot like Palin.  His Deficit Hawkery is fake.  The Ryan "budget" is a document that lacks the actual budget part; he is a product of the public school system he seeks to dismantle, he was successful in taking home the bacon to help his district - then is was part of market capitalism - now it's Obama Socialism.  And on top of all the shallow crap, he seems stuck in an adolescent Rand fantasy.

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012...

FedsMadeSarahPalinClick4Proof
FedsMadeSarahPalinClick4Proof

Know why Sarah Palin's bus tour was really canceled last year? Do you know why she stayed 30 miles away from the second debate and chose the death of Steve Jobs to announce that she's not running? Know what leaked out? Sarah Palin isn't in this race and won't be at the RNC because too many people now know the truth. Search PalinsDirtyLittleSecret for the BIGGEST cover up in world history...

Hansome
Hansome

What a silly, sappy, Soledad-esque article. Smart, sensible Sarah Palin is always ahead of the curve and on the right side of history.  Neither Ryan nor Romney has her conservative credentials or crowd-pleasing charisma.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

For which we can all be thankful.

bobell
bobell

That's sarcasm, right?

MrObvious
MrObvious

Which part?

Smart, sensible, right side of history, conservative creds and charisma?

destor23
destor23

I don't see Ryan as an anti-Palin at all.  They're both Tea Party extremsists.

politathiest
politathiest

THE BEST EVALUATION OF RYAN YET FROM INDEPENDANT VOTER GROUP. EVEN CONSERVS CAN'T SAY IT'S NOT UNFAIR...... BUT HIS POLICIES SHOULD WAKE PEOPLE UP!

Paul Ryan economic policies Capital Gains Tax: Paul Ryan would eliminate it.

Estate Tax: Paul Ryan would eliminate it.

Income Taxes: Ryan supports changing the current progressive six-level tax rate with a progressive two-level tax rate. Those earning under $50k per year ($100k for married couples), would pay 10%. Those earning more than that would see their tax rate drop to 25%.

Medicare: Instead of having the US government manage Medicare, Paul Ryan would turn the system over to industry corporations who would issue and honor ‘vouchers’. Called “healthcare coupons” by some, each Medicare recipient would be 100% in the hands of global, for-profit medical, pharmaceutical and insurance corporations.

The other major complaint about Ryan’s plan is that his coupons won’t cover all items and services, or even the full cost. One little-known trick is that while Medicare recipients would receive cost of living increases tied to inflation, they won’t be tied to the cost of ‘medical inflation’, which over the past decades has outpaced the cost of living exponentially. Critics argue this is one way Ryan’s plan would shift the burden of ever-rising costs onto senior citizens, instead of Uncle Sam.

The Kaiser Family Foundation evaluated Ryan’s proposal and concluded that by 2022, seniors would be paying double the out-of-pocket costs that they are now. Most of the additional costs were shown to come from corporations charging more than Uncle Sam to administer Medicare and the same corporations “low-balling” medical cost estimates and reimbursements.

Social Security: Paul Ryan’s plan to save Social Security is to privatize it. Just as Medicare recipients would be thrown into the hands of the for-profit healthcare companies, big pharma giants and insurance corporations, Social Security recipients can look forward to having much of their life savings in the trusted hands of Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of America, and the rest of the gang.

To be fair, a past proposal by Ryan limited the amount of Social Security savings Americans could take control of. According to CNN Money, his plan would only allow recipients to invest 40% of their withholdings. The argument is that Uncle Sam’s method of holding onto America’s retirement savings isn’t profitable enough. Ryan argues that Social Security recipients would use the nation’s largest investment banks to gamble their savings for higher returns. Of course, as we all learned from the housing and economic collapse, the bigger the return – the bigger the risk.

Medicaid: Right off the bat, Paul Ryan supports the repeal of Obamacare, which would instantly take away Medicaid from 17 million Americans. The rest of the nation’s poor would be at the mercy of their individual states. Instead of the federal government guaranteeing an open-ended way for injured and dying Americans to receive medical treatment, the feds would only pay limited grants to each state. Those block grants would be tied to inflation and population, not need, rising healthcare costs, or the most obvious – an aging population of baby-boomers.

According to Paul Ryan’s plan, what the states do to pay for the poor, sick and dying is not Uncle Sam’s problem. Critics contend each state would react differently, with most either raising taxes, cutting eligibility or slashing medical treatment. Others suggest the states will continue to do what they have been – borrowing money, issuing bonds, ignoring infrastructure, cutting education funding and selling off future revenue for pennies on the dollar.

Bailouts: Rep. Ryan voted for TARP, the auto bailout and a number of emergency corporate welfare programs.

Across-the-board cuts: In addition to the Medicare and Medicaid cuts, Paul Ryan’s plan also calls for an overall reduction in federal spending by one-fifth. The only exemption Ryan gives is to the defense industry which would be guaranteed no spending cuts. As detailed in the LA Times, this would drastically affect the states because they receive a full one-third of their funding from the federal government. Again, how each state makes up for the lost revenue would vary.

Republicans

While the above list was provided by left-leaning media, others raised the torch on behalf of the right. In addition to fully supporting Ryan’s Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security plans, some Republicans also point out Paul Ryan’s ‘moderate’ side. Breitbart.com quotes a Democratic Super PAC, American Bridge 21st Century, on other issues important to social conservatives where Ryan doesn’t always agree with their wing of the Republican Party.

Occupy Wall Street: Paul Ryan was quoted on Meet the Press defending the right of the Occupy movement to protest and air their grievances. He immediately moved on to chastising President Obama for using the Occupy movement to divide the country in class warfare.

Abortion: While Rep. Ryan is admittedly pro-life, he is quoted by a local Wisconsin paper saying he has no problem supporting pro-choice candidates. He added to his position by saying that he’d even gone so far as endorsing pro-choice candidates in the past.

Pork-barrel spending: Another example Breitbart.com quotes is Ryan’s support of a Bill that would have authorized the President to use a line-item veto to eliminate Congressional earmarks. Showing Paul Ryan’s willingness to reach across the aisle, he “joined forces” with Democratic Senator Russ Feingold in support of the proposal.

Free Press: Back in 2007, the Bush White House and certain members of the media became intertwined in a number of national security scandals. With America’s free press under attack, Paul Ryan voted for a Bill to protect the right of the press to keep their sources secret.

Infant Mortality: In 2010, Paul Ryan voted for legislation that would have funded a program to cut the infant mortality rate. The program would establish $10 million in one-year grants to help mothers and babies in the 15 major US cities currently suffering the highest rate.

Independents

Independent voters are torn over Rep. Paul Ryan. The ones we at Whiteout Press have spoken to are overwhelmingly opposed to his specific proposals in regard to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. At the same time, they agree with the Wisconsin Congressman that something needs to be done to fix the programs.

As a reminder, independents are inclined to point out that nothing is wrong with Social Security. The federal government just needs to put back the money it stole from the fund. They would also suggest that the multi-billion dollar profits that have caused America’s healthcare costs to skyrocket should be addressed before grandma and grandpa are forced to work at Walmart until they’re 80.

And as far as Medicaid goes, the same price-gouging corporate tactics above are also the case. But add to that the rampant corruption by almost everyone involved –corporations, doctors, bureaucrats, patients, etc. The Obama administration has gone out of its way to put as many Americans on Medicaid and Food Stamps as possible. The Democrats call it “helping the poor, which there are now more of thanks to the Republicans.”

The independents believe there really is enough waste, fraud and corruption in those three desperately needed social programs to reform them and save them without destroying the entire safety net. Millionaires are collecting welfare because often it’s not the person’s assets that are counted, but their income. Government bureaucrats and office workers are retiring as millionaires with million dollar pensions. The wealthy collect Social Security even though they admittedly don’t need it.

The answer, according to the independent voters we spoke to, is to address those common sense changes and hundreds more just like them. Then come to the American people and ask them to surrender to Goldman Sachs, AIG, United Healthcare and Pfizer.

Until then, independents seem to like Paul Ryan’s intelligence, smile, boldness and leadership. They just don’t like his policies.

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©

Exorcising Palin?

What?  Paul Ryan is New Palin.

Nothing more than a bright shiny object to distract the populace (or more particularly, the Beltway blabbermouths that lead them around by the nose).

His "ideas" are cr^p.  The usual mismatching of Jesus and Ayn Rand that exists in our country solely because it serves the interests of the wealthy people that run the place.

~

cent_fan
cent_fan

I hope Mitt realizes someone might get around to asking Ryan about something other than the domestic budget much like Palin was asked about foreign policy.  I wonder what Ryan can see from Wisconsin and if he knows chicken wire won't keep the rest of the planet from messing with his well laid plans... I mean Mitt's well laid plans...

pneogy
pneogy

Michael Crowley says 'In choosing Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, Romney has tapped an anti-Palin: a policy wonk and budget expert whose smarts no one doubts.'

Really?  Here's what Paul Krugman had to say in his blog today: 'Ryan basically proposes three big things: slashing Medicaid, cutting taxes on corporations and high-income people, and replacing Medicare with a drastically less well funded voucher system. These concrete proposals would, taken together, actually increase the deficit for the

first decade and beyond.All the claims of major deficit reduction

therefore rest on the magic asterisks. In that sense, this isn’t even a

plan, it’s just a set of assertions.'

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.c...

politathiest
politathiest

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote - Ben Franklin

“Democracy ... wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams

“Democracy is the most vile form of government... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention... incompatible with personal security or the rights of property.” —James Madison

“The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and ... breaks up the foundations of society.” —Thomas Jefferson

politathiest
politathiest

Jesus....

On Taxes: "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Give unto the Lord what is the lords."

On Class Warfare: "Tis easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven."

On economic policy: "Do not store treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy." ; "and he tore down his barns to build bigger ones.... You fool, for his life will soon be taken." ; "the love of money is the root of all evil"

On Foodstamps: "For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink"

On immigration: "I was a stranger and you welcomed me."

On national defense: "love your enemy" ; "do not return evil with evil but with love" ; turn the other cheek"; "blessed are the peacemakers" ; "this world is not my kingdom" ; "those that live by the sword, shall die by the sword"

On national health care: "I was sick and you took care of me." ; as stated thru James, "bear one anothers burdens and so fullfill the law of Christ"

On taxing the rich: "Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. 44 For all of them have contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on." ; "to whom much is given, much is expected"

On Redistribution of wealth: "sell all you have and give it to the poor and come follow me." As approved by and enforced by the co-godhead the Holy Spirit. " and they sold property from time to time and brought it before the feet of the disciples and it was sold and distributed to all as each had need"

Yes. Jesus was a pacifist socialist.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

But R-ayn-d says all that touchy-feely Christian stuff is for the birds.  Get up, dust yourself off, lose the bottle and get to work ye bum!

filmnoia
filmnoia

The only difference between Ryan and Palin is that apparently Ryan has been known to read a book, whereas Sarah only uses  a book when she has a pack of crayons.

anon76returns
anon76returns

That's simply not true.  Sarah has read all of them.

MrObvious
MrObvious

From pop up to chapter book.

politathiest
politathiest

and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them. 1 Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. [a] 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.

politathiest
politathiest

“I’m not the first President to call for this idea that everybody has got to do their fair share. Some years ago, one of my predecessors traveled across the country pushing for the same concept. He gave a speech where he talked about a letter he had received from a wealthy executive who paid lower tax rates than his secretary, and wanted to come to Washington and tell Congress why that was wrong. So this President gave another speech where he said it was “crazy” -- that's a quote -- that certain tax loopholes make it possible for multimillionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying 10 percent of his salary. That wild-eyed, socialist, tax-hiking class warrior was Ronald Reagan.

SmilingSmartBlonde
SmilingSmartBlonde

Michael Crowley

If there was a GOP attempt at differentiating Paul Ryan from Sarah Palin, was it successful?  Paul Ryan-laughing now- is he the male Sarah Palin proxy? Clearly the Ryan pick forVP was just like the Sara Palin pick-unabashed  pandering to the Tea Party crowd, offering absolutely no appearance of attracting moderate voters.

rokinsteve
rokinsteve

So a wonk is a congressman who votes to blow up the deficit by 10 trillion when a Republican is President and votes against everything to fix that mess and create jobs when a Democrat is President? 

bobell
bobell

You got it.  Let's submit that definition to the Urban Dictionary.

FedsMadeSarahPalinClick4Proof
FedsMadeSarahPalinClick4Proof

The truth about Sarah Palin is being buried in disinformation. She was planted in the last election with no intention of winning. The link in my name exposes what the media cannot, the truth..

Hollywooddeed
Hollywooddeed

While my brothers were serving our country in Vietnam, wasn't Willard was in Paris busy baptizing dead Jews?

Actually, President Obama is serving now. As Commander-in-Chief.

deconstructiva
deconstructiva

Well, he was riding around on his bike enjoying wine and cheese. We could channel our inner sacredh and also quip that the real missionary work he did was on Ann.

grape_crush
grape_crush

The one thing Romney’s team knew they could not do was pick someone who’d be branded a lightweight like Palin.

Particularly because Romney himself is this election cycle's Sarah Palin, only with stronger credentials and a better work ethic.

Romney has tapped an anti-Palin..

Hardly; there are too many similarities for that label to stick...

(a) Ryan won't say anything out-and-out stupid like Palin did, but wingnut is still wingnut; there's little daylight between Palin and Ryan's policy positions.

(b) Those policy positions, while different in level of complexity, are ideologically-driven and not realistic in nature.

(c) Both are promote conservative social policy, even if Ryan is a bit squishy on the religion thing.

(d) Ryan was selected to gin up/shore up the GOP's right-wing base for a squishy Romney, same as Palin's selection was intended to help with a squishy McCain.

anon76returns
anon76returns

"(a) Ryan won't say anything out-and-out stupid like Palin did, but wingnut is still wingnut; there's little daylight between Palin and Ryan's policy positions."

I'm beginning to think that the biggest difference between them is that Ryan can remember those positions without having to write them on his hand.

politathiest
politathiest

Funny how conservative liars only use conservative sources for they're responses. Like anybody can trust weekly standard or Fox news. Baa,haa haaa

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

While Crowley is "exorcising" Palin from the 2012 election cycle which she is only a huge force in getting conservatives elected into office.

Crowley let's the BIGGEST story of the day go un-noticed.

Seems we have a big meeting going on in the White House today.  Barry, Hillary and Joe.  Are we going to see a new Veep candidate along Barry's side from now until November?  Will Hillary take yet another bullet as she almost did in Kosovo so long ago?  

This is desperation.  Total desperation that they are losing and can't stop it.  But, they are going to throw big F-ing deal Joe Biden under the bus.  Probably because he has alienated the black vote they are desperately counting on to come out.  

"They want to unleash the chains on Wall Street.  Put, ya'll back in those chains", says Joe Biden to a predominately black crowd at a recent campaign stop in Virginia.  

That kind of rhetoric should scare the bejeebus out of black folks.  When you start talking about putting people back in chains, that's SLAVERY man.  That IS a big F-ing deal.  

That's also one of the biggest LIES ever told on a campaign trail by a sitting Vice President trying to get re-elected.  

http://www.weeklystandard.com/...

bokeh9
bokeh9

Last evening Lawrence O'Donnell had a bit on Ayn Rand and showed some of the ways Congressman Ryan is decidedly not her disciple.  Mr. Ryan voted for virtually all of the Bush deficit busting.  Policy wonk?  Budget expert?  Mr. Ryan manipulates these media characterizations to mask his role in returning the country to the Golden Age of a hundred years ago.

bokeh9
bokeh9

There is a pattern to the Romney/Ryan policies (as much as they reveal):

-- Turn Social Security over for private for-profit investment.

-- Redirect Medicare to the for-profit insurance industry.

-- Outsource Medicaid to the states so many of them can do the same with that program.

-- Expand the DoD which feeds the largest arms industry in the world.

It's all about business.

bobell
bobell

Not to mention that Ms. Ryan was what I'd call a "flaming atheist."  Beyond the simple fact of her nonbelief, she attacked believers ferociously.  R-an wouldn't have lasted for ten minutes as a Rand acolyte unless he was able to forswear his Catholic faith. So that would have been his choice: Apostacy to Ryan or apostacy to Catholicism.

Somehow this seems to have taken many years to occur to him.

And let's not forget that Rand was a vocal supporter of abortion on demand.   A strange idol for young Paul to worship.

deconstructiva
deconstructiva

It's somewhat odd that Ryan chose to enter politics because of Rand. She hated most politicians and championed a clearly libertarian govt. of the police, army, and courts, not much else. She bashed Romney's father a lot too.  She hated taxes and tried to wish them away, but how did she propose paying for her limited govt.? Blank out; most writings don't answer that. Does anyone know? (I still have many of her books from high school and early college, but not Atlas Shrugged; it's unreadable).

bobell
bobell

Apparently, because it was in their self-interest, people would voluntarily contribute to the few necessary institutions.

But what's to stop people from deciding that it's in their interest to let some other sucker put up the money?  That's pretty much what's actually happening right now, isn't it -- the top one percent letting everyone else pay taxes?

bokeh9
bokeh9

That's exactly the point.  Mr. Ryan's affectations just lend a marketable style to a "What's good for General Bullmoose" perspective.  Governor Romney and he are an excellent match.

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

You actually watch O'Donnell?  That's like someone on the right watching Alex Jones.  

Think you should start turning the channels.  All that far left extremist crap is rotting your brain away.