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politathiest
politathiest

Liberalsllies,

in honor of your efforts to be technically correct in all things . wouldnt romney only be a murderer only if he had direct involvement in the death of this woman . at best can't we really only say he is guilty of negligent homicide , or maybe involuntary manslaughter , anybody here with a la background know which would be the more correct title . it would definitely probably be better for romney if he could say he's only guilty of negligent homicide . it would make all the other names we could call him pale in comparison wiouldnt it ? please someone weigh in on this so we can know for sure

jmt13
jmt13

depraved indifference-reasonably knowing the possible outcome of one's actions and doing it anyway(I watch a lot of Law and Order-snicker).

bobell
bobell

I don't think any jurisdiction in the country, not even Texas, could convict Mitt of any crime whatever for Mrs' Soptic's death.  The causal connection, legally, is far too tenuous.  No prosecutor would even try.

The commercial attempts to make some causal connection anyway, seeking to creat a moral revulsion against Romney.  I think even then the connection is too tenuous.

The most you can derive from the commercial ought to be that a lack of health insurance can have negative effects and that Mitt would leave a lot more Americans without health insurance than would Obama. Some people will try to read more into it than that, but most of them are doing so in order to attack it.

politathiest
politathiest

Ya, you have to admit if he would be labeled guilty for negligent homicide . it would completely distract people from titles like , liar, flip-flopper, elitist, dishonst, opportunistic..... Well you get the point.

MrObvious
MrObvious

Don't think to much, Rod doesn't handle that kind of subtle things.

MrObvious
MrObvious

MrObvious,No, Ob. I am pointing out the sloppiness of your thought process. You are like Barack Obama without a teleprompter.

Not at all - you were pointing out my grammar. But you're even so pathetic that you try to weasel yourself out of that. You're spineless.

But let me enlighten you of what you've become as you seek brotherhood with some here.

Are they on Obama's hit list too? Maybe he'll just send a drone this time instead of a dumb skinhead he bought off.

This is Rod.

You'll jump right on anyone here but you would never say anything to someone like Rod.

A person with stones would point out how idiotic this sounds. Remember how you were whining like a snotty little brat about me exploiting the massacre in Colorado. But you don't say anything to Rod that have been going on for days now with one thing more idiotic than the other.

You're simply yellow. You have no integrity, you're colorless like putty and you stand for nothing. If we here would count have many times you twist and turn dependent on what position you're against we'd be in the thousands. Something like 17k little nuggests of flip flopping mental masturbation.You earned your friendship well and you made your bed. Rod is your kind.

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012...

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Whine Ob. Whine to your hearts content. You sound even more pathetic than deconratpoison

jmt13
jmt13

interesting that you accuse Ob of whining and totally ignore the substantive comments....self-denial?

MrObvious
MrObvious

Maybe he'll just send a drone this time instead of a dumb skinhead he bought off.

I got nothing on you

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Ob whining again, surprise, surprise. Ob and deconratpoison, one and the same.

Barry has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he will order the murder of an American citizen without trial. Why would he stop at that? Barry and Janet knew that Nazi extremists were plotting terrorist attacks, but they sat back and did nothing. That's murder, as your friend poltergeist says, at least an accomplice to murder.

If you knowingly have information that LEDs to murder, you are as guilty as the perp who did it.

politathiest
politathiest

May be romney and obama should cut a deal . whoever wins he has to take the other candidate for vice president . that would be a great spectacle . can you imagine I'm at the debates fiercely going at each other and then stepping towards the middle of the podium doing that right hand to left hand raised arm victory stance yelling go team Romnbama or obamney. imagine what fun both convention would be like? of course then they have only 1 vice presidential debate ending in a fore mentioned victory grasp. best of all would be to see how the super pacs would deal with the issue . they could have a scathing attacks against the other ending by saying that they are not associate with the Romnboma or Obamney campaign. Mitt can legitimately go after the black and latino votes and obama can go after ...... coiffed hair business man vote. they could even get established the occupy tea party. just imagine oh wouldn't it be grand .

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

This is an article that describes the scam that Romney participated in as head of Marriott Corp's audit committee:

http://www.son-of-boss.com/SOB...

One of the wisest things I've read in a while though appears as a  footnote:

When one understands the tax code, it becomes apparent that the conflicts are not between liberals and conservatives, but rather the battle is between old wealth (both liberal and conservative) and new wealth – those living on investments verses those earning an income.  Thus, the estate tax, capital gains, and tax-free bonds laws favor old wealth, while those earning large incomes (professionals, business owners, entertainers and athletes) pay the highest rates on their compensation income, as well as employment taxes.

jmt13
jmt13

I still believe passive income should be taxed double the rate of earned income.

MrObvious
MrObvious

Interesting point, but I'd settle for the same; don't see why someone raking profit after profit on already invested amount should get a special tax break. Especially since most of it today is speculation on evaluations (like loans and future oil prices) and not goods we have here and now.

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

This is one that is pretty simple to understand. People need to be informed of the legal tax code scams that have been used and will only get worse in the future if Romney is elected.

And, I would be much better off because of dividend breaks if R0mney were elected. H9wever, I believe it would be wrong for the country and my best interests are in a stronger economy for all.

politathiest
politathiest

Ivy b,

I was always suspicious of the myth of reagan's great increase in federal tax receipts . I actually went and pulled the history of the federal tax receipts . they did increase for about 3 years but not as much as many claim . these increases were for about 3 years and then they dropped off pretty fast , which is why reagan deficit started to balloon and he had to raise taxes the first time . what I also looked at was what were the receipts coming from . when reagan lowered the capital gains and dividends tax , the rich clamored to take advantage not knowing if it would last and cashed out a lot of long term assets . that was the increase that showed . that bubble finally birst . Around the first of the ninety's , the amount of federal tax receipts that came from capitals games started to explode . the rich had finally figured out that it is better to take capital gains and dividends gains instead of taking income which was taxed at a higher rate . the evidence if you look at it closely is pretty clear what happened . this is how people like mitt romney can make millions and pay only 15 percent . after 20 years of this and other tax cuts given to the rich we now see the huge disparity of not only income but wealth going to the top 1 percent . this massive shift of wealth disparity slowed slightly under clinton as he raise the top income rate but it was still the capital gains that they were taking advantage of . clinton basically only slowed down the level of disparity . we have no recovery and probably won't seriously because there's no disposable income available to the middle class ..... a lot of it is sitting in offshore bank accounts . Many conservatives here crying class warfare , I say the analogy is closer to economic genocide against the middle class . the last time disparity and incom e and assets were this high was 29 . romney wants to take away all capital gains an estate tax ! can you imagine what that will do to the disparity curve ? most conservs are just sticking their head in the ground hoping they'll be 1 of the top 1 percent oligarchs. china's taxing their new millionaires quite heavily and it doesn't seem to be dis couraging them too much . now the rich are threatening if they don't get lower tax cuts they'll take their money and go somewhere else . I call that extortion !

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

Some edumacation for the trolls:

There has been a five percentage-point Democratic advantage, on average, in Fox News polls this year. In this poll, the Democratic edge is nine points. That may or may not be on the high side, although it is similar to other recent national polls conducted by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal, which puts Democrats up 11 percentage points and the Pew Research Center, with Democrats up by 13 percent.

That my friends is Fox news taking away the number one excuse the Teaheads offer when confronted with a negative poll. OVERSAMLPLING!!!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©

If anyone is wondering why spambot and Rusty are going crazy (crazier than usual, that is) today...

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...

Mitt Romney has had a tough couple of weeks on the campaign trail -- and it shows in the latest Fox News poll. After a barrage of campaign ads, negative news coverage of his overseas trip and ongoing talk about his tax returns, Romney’s favorable rating and standing in the trial ballot have declined. As a result, President Obama has opened his biggest lead since Romney became the presumptive Republican nominee.

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LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Oh yes, Obama is way, WAY out in the lead. You fell for "hope and change", why wouldnt you fall for this one poll?

It is well known that Roger Ailes has pulled back off Obama. I think he feels sorry for the fool.

But get on the phone, Iffy. Tell all your LibLoon friends Obama has this in the bag. Please.

politathiest
politathiest

Liberal lies,

why did you leave the priorities u s a blog . too many people there debunking your ideas ? I still say you'd be better to be listed as "conservativelies costtrillions". and yes bush is mostly to blame for everything . of coursee probably shares that blame equally with reagan . Oops now I dun dun it !

MrObvious
MrObvious

We dont have to tell our friends that Obama is in the bag; they know as well that between two choices Obama looks far better than Mitt.

MomentoMori
MomentoMori

 "It is well known that Roger Ailes has pulled back off Obama."

Wait, what?

bobell
bobell

Now I'm going to have to rinse out my mind with soap.

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©

There's still time to go with Santorum or One L instead, Rusty.

(Just trying to help...I feel sorry for you fools.)

~

jmt13
jmt13

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Romney upset his party so much that during the convention they change their votes and put Ron Paul in?  That alone will be worth watching the mythfest that is the Republican National Convention!

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Al Gore - Anchorman!!

Big Fat Al will take over the reins as the "anchorman" for Current TV.  We don't know yet if it is because of Al's hefty weight or that Current couldn't get anyone else to do it.  We'll keep you posted on this late breaking news.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new...

jmt13
jmt13

Nice-time to pick on another group that it seems to be socially acceptable to make fun of...the overweight.

MrObvious
MrObvious

Says the guy that worships Rush every word.

But keep making fun of Al for his 'heft'. Seems very important.

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

Actually I saw Al Gore about a year ago at a conference where I heard him speak. He was not overweight. More wingnutter slander.

Hollywooddeed
Hollywooddeed

Lies, please post a picture of yourself so we can do a comparison.

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Yes we do need Voter ID laws.  Here is yet another example, this time a Republican nut case, Thaddeus McCotter who used our voting system to commit fraud.  

http://www.freep.com/article/2...

We need a total clean up in Washington.  One that will be remembered for generations.  

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

I posted that earlier, but also pointed out that these cases of Republican election fraud would not have been stopped by the Voter ID laws. Better learn what's in the law passed in your state.

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Hope and change, the nightmare...

"“[W]e’ve come too far to turn back now,” Obama said in Pueblo, Colo.  “We’ve got too much more work to do."

Yea we know Barry.  We know you want to "fundamentally change" this country.  Well sorry, Pal, we don't buy the smoke and mirror routine anymore.  It is nothing more than a carnival sideshow.  A big joke.  

Your progressivism just doesn't work.  Americans woke up.  They looked at what you were doing and said "hey, wait a minute".  

Just because you tried to cover-up the old TAX AND SPEND Democrat way as being the road to prosperity, we know this time that way doesn't work.  We have been down that road before and that's why we are almost 16 TRILLION dollars in debt.  That's why this economy is so bad because of all the spending.  We know we pay enough in taxes.  You FAILED Barry.  Just like you failed when you were smoking dope back in Hawaii.  

You are FIRED!

http://washingtonexaminer.com/...

Hollywooddeed
Hollywooddeed

I don't think you can revive that tired, old talking point. Only someone who is completely stupid wouldn't know who racked up most of that debt. And who did you think waa going to pay for the Bush crashed economy? Did you think it would just go away? Who was going to pay for two unfunded wars, unfunded tax cuts for the rich and unfunded Medicare Part D under Bush?

I know, I know. I asked Lies to think.

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Doubling down on stupid.

Adviser Robert Gibbs said he didn’t know "specifics," while deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter said on CNN: “I don’t know the facts about when Mr. Soptic’s wife got sick or the facts about his health insurance."

And yesterday on Air Force One, Psaki said, "we don’t have any knowledge of the story of the family."

UPDATE: Amanda Henneberg, a spokesperson for the Romney campaign, said this in a statement: "President Obama’s campaign has been caught lying about its knowledge concerning a vicious smear run by his Super PAC.  And now, they have doubled down with another dishonorable and dishonest attack. In 2008, candidate Obama said ‘you make a big election about small things’ when you don’t have a record to run on.  Since President Obama can’t run on record unemployment, falling incomes, and massive debt, he has decided to run a dirty campaign that is an affront to everything he claims to stand for."

http://www.politico.com/politi...

What happened to the political team that took down one of the biggest Democrat dynasties of our time?  Is that why Bill Clinton is on the way back to save the day?

Even Bill doesn't have the power to save this sinking ship.  They've already lost Lanny Davis, the number 1 Clintonista.  

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Barry Obama's dream was to "fundamentally transform" the US to look exactly like European countries he is so fond of.  Unfortunately for Barry, his time came when the European model for economics has imploded.

Now with austerity cuts which are totally unpreventable, "Baby Hatches" have made a rebound in Europe.  

What are baby hatches you ask?  Well let me explain.  Back in the early part of the last century, countries had "hatches" set up in various cities.  When families could no longer afford to take care of their kids, they put them in a hatch.  Someone then would come by take the kid out and take them to an orphanage.  

Barry's Baby Hatches, coming to a city near you real soon.

Protopapas cited the example of a four-year old child left at a nursery by her mother with a note that read: “I will not be coming to pick up Anna today because I cannot afford to look after her.  Please take good care of her. Sorry."

It is here, we just don't realize yet how bad it really is.  Just yesterday at the store I saw a young woman with two young boys in tow.  She looked to have been used to being in the middle class, but to my surprise, out came her EBT / Food Stamp Card.  She looked back at me and lowered her eyes.  It was very sad.  How soon will she have yet before she has to give up on her two boys?  Following Barry down the deep dark path of socialism, it won't be long at all.

 http://www.cnbc.com/id/4858578...

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

First it was blame it all on Bush.  That didn't work.

Then it was call Romney a "felon", that didn't work either.

Then we heard some truth, when socialist wannabe Barry Hussein Soetoro-Obama said "You Didn't Built That"

Now, with NOTHING left, they double down on name calling and call Romney a "Murderer".

America, wake up.  Obama is incompetent, lacks any shred of integrity and is nothing more than a stooge for the Chicago thugs who brought him to Washington.  The only thing Obama knows how to do well so far as running anything is his mouth.  

We don't need words, we need ACTION.  It's time for Barry to go!!

jmt13
jmt13

Wondering if LL's use of the word "Built" was typo or his sense of humor-very telling

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

First it was FELON, that didn't stick so the Obama Campaign doubled down on MURDERER.

Gee, all that "hope and change". Where did it go?

politathiest
politathiest

hope and change got taken over by , republicans will do anything to get obama out even if it means destroying this country. And compromise is the new "n" word. And , I pledge allegiance to grover norquist, for which he stands with liberty and justice for the rich .