Bain Already Killed Mitt Romney Once. And I Was a Witness.

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I haven’t studied the details of Mitt Romney’s tenure at Bain & Co. And I’m no expert in political tactics; when I write about them, it’s usually to make a larger point about a politician.  My only credential for discussing whether Bain will hurt Romney in 2012 is that I lived in Massachusetts in 1994, when he was running for Senate against Ted Kennedy. I was just a kid covering night cops in Boston, paying virtually no attention to politics, but I do remember this: Bain KILLED Romney.

My basic recollection of that race is that for months and months, everyone said Kennedy was doomed. It was the year of the Republican revolution, and Teddy was the poster child for bloated liberalism; he had also played a humiliating role in his nephew’s rape trial a few years earlier. But then he started running ads of laid-off Indiana workers who said Bain and Romney had destroyed their jobs and shredded their dignity.

I still remember the way that woman said “IN-surance.” And suddenly the race was over. It wasn’t even close. And Kennedy never faced a serious challenge again.

When I mentioned this to my favorite Romney-watcher a few weeks ago—Swampland seems so lonely without you, David—he reminded me that Massachusetts isn’t America. But South Carolina isn’t America, either, and Bain attacks didn’t seem to hurt Newt Gingrich there. Put aside the questions about outsourcing and bailouts and SEC documents; Bain is a reminder that Mitt Romney was a CEO, a boss, a Wall Street suit, a rich guy who fires people. This was Mike Huckabee’s insight; Romney reminds people of the guy who laid them off. He could still beat Obama—Kennedy wasn’t presiding over 8 percent unemployment—but he’s going to have to figure out a way around his Bain problem.

As I said, I’m not an expert in political tactics, and it may not be particularly original to point out that Bain is toxic for Romney. But Bain is toxic for Romney, and the idea that Beltway reporters thought President Obama’s campaign should drop the issue because it hurt Cory Booker’s feelings is a reminder that the experts in political tactics are not really experts in political tactics either.

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ajain31
ajain31

"Given the precedent set by past seven Presidents and Presidential candidates of releasing multi-year tax returns why is Romney making an exception?" Because he has a lot to hide, apparently.

He's the only one that knows what's in there, and apparently he's made the judgement that he's better off having us suspect the worst, rather than us knowing whats in there, which apparently in his mind is worse than anything we're likely to imagine.

Possibilities include:

(1) He ended up with 120 million in his 401K by the trick of agreeing with Bain to grossly undervalue the market value of his stock, then a few years later have the stock get unvalued to the stratosphere.

(2) He participated in the tax avoidance amnesty program of a few years back, avoiding major tax penalties or prosecution.

(3) Any one or more of the other borderline legal but very bad smelling tax dodges-- "in-kind" trades, "no-risk" trades, no-risk write-offs, the list is almost endless.

And BTW he HASNT even released all of his 2010 return, he very conveniently left off the foreign investments and deposits form. Very convenient.

And his argument that it would be "bothersome" to collect the tax data is a crock too-- he supposedly collected 23 years of the stuff to show to McCain in 2008.=======================================================

Republicans betrayed their own conscience when they went against established Republican principles like the MANDATE over healthcare which was a Heritage foundation issue popularized by Gingrich.Obama did more than his share to UNITE but the Republicans were out to oppose for opposing sake and not following any policy or principles. In the famous words of Minority Senate Leader Mitch McConnell the Republicans were out to defeat the Obama agenda even if it went against established Republican policies set by past precedent.Mitch McConnell was out to make sure that President Obama remains a one term President and see where it has brought the Congress and its public esteem.Gingrich out of his own admission was out to defeat Obama from the day he was sworn in as President.You can not justify the Republicans as the "loyal" opposition as is the case in most mature democracies. They have been out to get President Obama by hook or by crook. A leader can meet the opposition half way but can not fold completely to their whims and fantasies like that of the current Tea Party affiliates.Republicans will loose in 2012 just like they did in 2008 but with a smaller margin because of the dark money of Billionaires due to Citizens United verdict of the right wing Supreme Court.============================================================" ... Mitt Romney senior adviser Ed Gillespie said Sunday on CNN’s "State of the Union" the GOP candidate “retroactively” retired from Bain Capital after the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics began. ... "No body who has been drawing at LEAST $100,000.00 per year from 1999 to 2002 from Bain Capital “retroactively” retires from Bain Capital AFTER the 2002!!! Then why draw the salary of at LEAST $100,000.00 per year from 1999 to 2002 from Bain Capital if Romney retired from Bain “retroactively” !!!" ... Gillespie continued, "He took a leave of absence and, in fact, Candy, he ended up not going back at all and retired retroactively to February of 1999 as a result." ... "However SEC documents show Mitt Romney as sole owner of all shares of Bain Capital. Romney is also shown as CEO, President and Chairman of Board of Bain Capital in 2001 and 2002 then LEGALLY speaking Mitt Romney has been responsible to all that goes on under the banner of Bain Capital. Then to run for Governor of MA Romney sought residency of MA by lieu of his Bain positions. Now either Romney was at the Olympics OR he was at BAIN.Only one can be true not BOTH at the same time simultaneously!!! Will the true Willard Mitt Romney stand up and accept ONE thing? Does Romney want to accept untrue SEC filings and be called a Felon or agree that he represented Bain from 1999 to 2002?============================================================On Friday the 13th (7/13/2012) the very illusive Mitt Romney gave very defensive interviews to all FIVE networks on a single day at once!! Just a few days ago Mitt Romney said to FOX News that explaining means that you are WEAK. So his five interviews "explaining" his time at Bain were signs of his weakness!!Presidential Candidate Mr. Mitt Romney maybe feeling the heat on his role in BAIN Capital, his business experience which was supposed to be his sole criteria for creating jobs and his greatest qualification for running for the American Presidency in the current economy in 2012!However SEC documents show Mitt Romney as sole owner of all shares of Bain Capital. Romney is shown as CEO, President and Chairman of Board of Bain Capital in 2001 and 2002 then LEGALLY speaking Mitt Romney has been responsible to all that goes on under the banner of Bain Capital.Mitt Romney can not just share the good like job creation from 1999 to 2002 and leave the ugly like Bankruptcies and layoffs behind as if he had nothing to do about them from 1999 to 2002.If he really wanted to disassociate himself from Bain Capital he could have resigned and sold all his shares in Bain Capital in February 1999 then it would have been a different matter but to share in the glory of Bain's job creation accept a salary of $100,000 or MORE (where are the Tax Returns?) for three years and only to refuse to take the responsibility of Bankruptcies and layoffs on his WATCH (1999-2002) is trying to have it both ways and then complaining of playing politics having been caught with his hand in the proverbial Cookie Jar that is the very essence of an ACTIVE LEGAL ROLE in Bain Capital till 2002!! Was Romney getting $100,000.00 or more to do NOTHING for BAIN Capital???Mitt Romney will have to face the consequences of this leaving Bain "lie" that Mitt Romney has brought on upon himself. If we keep reminding the Romney campaign of the Bain exit lie and Romney's ill effects on workers robbing them of their hard earned salaries and life long benefits all the way to November then 7/13/2012 (FRIDAY the 13th) will go down as the turning point of the 2012 Presidential election!============================================================Two-Faced Willard"I was not responsible for what happened at Bain Capital" - Mitt Romney 

"I was the Sole shareholder, Sole director, Chief executive officer and President of Bain" - Mitt Romney"The Arizona immigration policy is a good model" – Mitt Romney 

"I didn't really support the Arizona immigration policy" – Mitt Romney“The Massachusetts healthcare plan should be a model for the nation” – Mitt Romney 

“Healthcare reform should be left to the states” – Mitt Romney"Let Detroit go bankrupt" -Mitt Romney 

"I'll take a lot of credit for saving the auto industry" -Mitt Romney“I believe Roe v Wade has gone too far.” – Mitt Romney 

“Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.” – Mitt Romney“I respect and will protect a woman’s right to choose.” – Mitt Romney 

“I never really called myself pro-choice.” – Mitt Romney“It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam.” – Mitt Romney 

“I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and represent our country there.” – Mitt Romney“I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” – Mitt Romney 

“Ronald Reagan is… my hero.” – Mitt Romney“I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.” – Mitt Romney 

"There’s no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.” – Mitt Romney“I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.” – Mitt Romney 

“I did not see it with my own eyes.” – Mitt Romney“I would like to have campaign spending limits.” – Mitt Romney 

“The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates without burdensome limitations.” – Mitt Romney“I supported the assault weapon ban.” – Mitt Romney "I don’t support any gun control legislation.” – Mitt Romney

ajain31
ajain31

ROMNEY ON TRACK TO LOSE ELECTIONRomney’s financial manipulations have, in the last 48 hours, exploded from mysterious shouldering embers into a political bonfire that could consume his entire campaign.Romney is calling President Obama a liar and Obama is continuing his call for Romney to release full information about his financial manipulations and more than one year of tax returns.Articles in the Washington Post and Boston Globe have probed and continue to probe into Romney’s convoluted finances and his years as CEO and owner of Bain Capital. Romney has called for retraction of these widely quoted articles without success.For a Rachel Maddow interview with the Boston Globe writer who probed Romney’s SEC reports click here: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the...... .For a broader discussion of Romney’s financial manipulations on Morning Joe click here: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mor...... .Either Mitt Romney was "sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president" of Bain Capital from 1999-2002, when all sorts of ugly outsourcing and vulture fund activities were taking place, or he was just listed as "sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president" on the company's documents, which means he was simply a figurehead collecting cash generated by said ugly outsourcing and vulture fund activities.There appears to be more than ample multiple evidence that Romney is not telling the truth about completely leaving Bain after 1999. If you want to read all the details:1. Click here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...... ;2. Click here: http://www.reuters.com/article...... ;3.Click here: http://www.motherjones.com/moj...... ;4. Click here: http://www.motherjones.com/pol...... .And these articles on Romney/Bain only scratch the surface. After the Boston Globe article on Thursday the Internet lit up like a Christmas tree as everyone with access seemed to have something to report.More MoJo coverage of Mitt Romney (http://www.motherjones.com/cat...... ):►The Mystery of Romney's Exit From Bain:http://www.motherjones.com/pol...... ;►Romney Invested in Medical-Waste Firm That Disposed of Aborted Fetuses, Government Documents Show: http://www.motherjones.com/pol...... ;►Romney Tax Tips: 10 Ways to Stiff the IRS:http://www.motherjones.com/pol...... ;►Mitt Romney's Long History of Misremembering His Past:http://www.motherjones.co m/politics/2012/06/mitt-romney -history-problem;►Get-Rich-Quick Profiteers Love Mitt Romney, and He Loves Them Back:http://www.motherjones.com/pol...... ;►How Romney Fibs—and Gets Away With It:http://www.motherjones.com/pol...... .Of course the Obama campaign wasted no time getting out TV ads on the subject. One of the most recent has Romney singing “God Bless America” while the graphics pound him for his financial manipulations. Click here:http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...... . Voters in the swing states are getting their first glimpse behind the mask of Romney’s polished campaign performance.

This all brings back Richard Nixon’s famous statement,“I am not a crook.”The problem for Romney is that it is impossible for him to win an election campaign based on whether or not he is a potential criminal who has lied on legally required reports. Every day the media probes deeper into the Romney financial paper trail and reveals more and more conflicts between Romney’s personally signed reports and his recorded campaign statements is a day closer to his political defeat. If the present political bonfire doesn’t die down soon the GOP may decide at its late August convention to throw Romney under the bus.Ed SchlickWOLFEBORO, N.H.(AP)— President Barack Obama is keeping up a drumbeat of skepticism over Mitt Romney's insistence — displayed in a blitz of TV interviews — that he stepped down from his private equity firm years earlier than federal records indicate.Obama planned another day of campaigning in Virginia on Saturday, a state he won in 2008 but before that last supported a Democratic presidential nominee in 1964. Advisers said he would remind voters of the discrepancies between Securities and Exchange Commission filings and Romney's recollection of his role at the Boston-based firm.His re-election campaign released an ad that repeated its allegation that Romney's Bain Capital shipped American jobs to China and Mexico; that Romney has personal wealth in investments in Switzerland, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands; and that as governor of Massachusetts, he outsourced state jobs to India."Mitt Romney's not the solution. He's the problem," Obama's latest ad says as it plays video of Romney awkwardly singing "America the Beautiful."The ad was set to run in the battleground states of Colorado, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia.The ad, targeting Romney's vast personal wealth, comes as Democrats — and some Republicans — call for Romney to release tax returns going back several years. Romney has said anew that he won't go beyond releasing his 2010 tax records and, before the election, his 2011 taxes."You can never satisfy the opposition research team of the Obama organization," Romney told CBS on Friday. In the same round of interviews in which he defended his account of his role at Bain, Romney said Obama owed him an apology for an aide's suggestion that the Security and Exchange Commission filings, if false, could bring a felony charge."This is simply beneath the dignity of the presidency of the United States," Romney told ABC.It wasn't just Obama, though, pushing the presumptive Republican nominee to put the issue of his tax returns and wealth to rest."There is no whining in politics," chided John Weaver, a veteran Republican strategist. "Stop demanding an apology, release your tax returns."For full AP article click here: http://www.businessweek.com/ap...... Contact:Ed SchlickExecutive DirectorMaine People’s Voting CoalitionE-mail eschlick@roadrunner.comYOU CAN JOIN THE COALITION – JUST SEND AN E-MAIL TO GET INFORMATION

ajain31
ajain31

Here are the top 10 comments about Bain from Romney’s Republican rivals:

1. “The idea that you’ve got private equity companies that come in and take companies apart so they can make profits and have people lose their jobs, that’s not what the Republican Party’s about.” — Rick Perry [New York Times, 1/12/12]

2. “The Bain model is to go in at a very low price, borrow an immense amount of money, pay Bain an immense amount of money and leave. I’ll let you decide if that’s really good capitalism. I think that’s exploitation.” — Newt Gingrich [New York Times, 1/17/12]

3. “Instead of trying to work with them to try to find a way to keep the jobs and to get them back on their feet, it’s all about how much money can we make, how quick can we make it, and then get out of town and find the next carcass to feed upon” — Rick Perry [National Journal, 1/10/12]

4. “We find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families without a job.” — Newt Gingrich [Globe and Mail, 1/9/12]

5. “Now, I have no doubt Mitt Romney was worried about pink slips — whether he was going to have enough of them to hand out because his company, Bain Capital, of all the jobs that they killed” — Rick Perry [New York Times, 1/9/12]

6) “He claims he created 100,000 jobs. The Washington Post, two days ago, reported in their fact check column that he gets three Pinocchios. Now, a Pinocchio is what you get from The Post if you’re not telling the truth.” — Newt Gingrich [1/13/12, NBC News]

7. “There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business, and I happen to think that’s indefensible” — Rick Perry [National Journal, 1/10/12]

8. “If Governor Romney would like to give back all the money he’s earned from bankrupting companies and laying off employees over his years, then I would be glad to then listen to him” — Newt Gingrich [Mediaite, 12/14/11]

9. “If you’re a victim of Bain Capital’s downsizing, it’s the ultimate insult for Mitt Romney to come to South Carolina and tell you he feels your pain, because he caused it.” — Rick Perry [New York Times, 1/8/12]

10. “They’re vultures that sitting out there on the tree limb waiting for the company to get sick and then they swoop in, they eat the carcass. They leave with that and they leave the skeleton” — Rick Perry [National Journal, 1/10/12]

Just last night, Newt Gingrich defended his attacks, saying “I think there are things you can legitimately look at in Bain Capital. I think there are things you can legitimately look at in anybody’s record, including Mitt Romney’s record.”

ajain31
ajain31

There are at least 12 reasons why Mitt Romney would not make a good president. Here's John F. Ince's list. What's yours?

1 • Romney neither understands nor represents most Americans. The man lacks empathy for those who have not had all the benefits he has had in life. His presidency would be deeply polarizing. One can easily image his election as president would generate new waves of social unrest and violence. He clearly represents the 1% and the 99% will not tolerate policies that exacerbate the growing divisions between rich and poor.

2 • Romney's job creation claims are inflated and unrealistic. Mitt Romney's professional career was based on a very specific task: buying and selling companies for profit. He wants people to think that this qualifies him to be a job creator. With the exception of his investment in Staples and a few other early venture capital deals, his jobs creation claims are mostly chimera. He takes credit for creating jobs, when he was only an investor in those companies, not an executive. In practice, he predominantly used his power as an investor to eliminate jobs and shift other jobs overseas, all in the interest of making profits.

3 • Romney does not have a sound fiscal plan. Extrapolating from the projections Romney has offered for increased defense spending and tax cuts, his policies would blow a hole in the Federal budget, further eroding investors faith in the government's ability to get its fiscal house in order.

4 • Romney has little respect for the natural environment, nor a commitment to protect and preserve it for future generations. He blindly subscribes to Republican views that climate change is not scientifically proven. He gives no indication of any desire to develop alternative sources of energy that can mitigate the man made sources of pollutants. Instead he supports the rollback of environmental regulations all but giving companies a green light to pollute the environment and waste vital natural resources.

5 • Romney has lived a cloistered and privileged life and today has a very narrow view of the world. From the Cranbrook School to Brigham Young University, to Harvard Business School to Bain Capital, it's difficult to imagine anyone who has been less exposed to the lives and conditions under which most Americans live. The covenants of his Mormon faith are extremely rigid, restrictive and unrealistic. His devotion to his faith is admirable, but his inability to step beyond the confines of that religion suggest that he would have difficulty reconciling who he is with who others are in an increasingly diverse world.

6 • Romney's worldview is rooted in intolerance. He has a very narrow view of the world. America today is a diverse nation with many different racial groups, faiths, all in need of respect. The bully incident at his prep school and his aggressive corporate behavior buying and selling companies at Bain Capital suggest someone who has little desire help those who are different, less fortunate and in weaker position than him.

7 • Romney does not fully understand the transformative power of technological change. Mitt has no professional technical training. Most of the companies he invested in at Bain were low tech. His expertise is finance: specifically buying and selling companies. All this suggests someone who will pay lip service to the tech sector, but won't fully grasp the potential for transforming the economy and culture through advancing technology.

8 • Romney is temperamentally unfit for the presidency. He is peevish, controlling and less than transparent. He has a rigid worldview that revolves around what is best for himself and a small circle of those who support him.

9 • Romney lacks direct foreign policy experience. His four years as Governor of Massachusetts do not give him sufficient knowledge or expertise to effectively deal with an increasingly complex world. On the job learners nearly always make blunders, sometimes blunders so large that they create huge problems for the U. S..

10 • Romney lacks integrity and honesty. His fudging of issues is a sign that he feels he can head fake his way though difficult debates. His statement that he does not remember the prep school bully incident is implausible. His evasiveness over release of tax forms and embellishment of his accomplishments are all red flags. His decisions as an executive at Bain Capital were not rooted in ethical behavior. The man is simply not forthright enough to earn the trust of the American people.

11 • Romney has no commitment to women or equal rights. There is little in his public statements or record to suggest he feels any responsibility for advancing the interests of women and minorities.

12 • Romney lacks sufficient charisma and personality to be a strong leader. The country needs someone to lead forcefully and inspire citizens to tackle problems that threaten the diminishment of American stature on the world stage. Romney's robotic and reptilian personality fails to connect, leaving people feeling that Romney is in the game only for himself, rather than in it for the good of all.

Note: The author, John F. Ince of this article is a former classmate of Mitt Romney at Harvard Business School and former reporter at Fortune Magazine. He is the author of Mitt Romney: King of Bain and the Man Who Wants To Be President.

7JimPalmer
7JimPalmer

Republicans have won many elections based on the following strategies: over the top patriotism, lies about their opponents propagated by attack ads paid for by big business interests, electoral fraud (voter caging, collusion with voting technology companies) and propaganda (a tactic greatly enhanced with Fox News and the Wall Street Journal at their disposal).  Its interesting to note that most of these strategies either don't work or are not available to political parties  in other more legitimate democracies.  Ultimately its the interests of the voter, taxpayer and average citizen that are damaged by these simple facts.

ChowT
ChowT

7Jim, Gop is the party of the rich, by the rich and for the rich.

They make no pretense their disdain and contempt for the workers and the middle class  by saying that they are lazy and are free loaders.

GOP always say they are conservative.

Oh yes conservative people does the following.

1) Fake WMDs and declare war to make money.

2) tax cuts for the super rich and nothing for the ordinary people.

3) Wall street conman are their buddies and they collude to cheat their customers.

4) They have no regard for the environment.

5) Gopers want unfettered capitalism and free market to cheat. con and lie.

3xfire3
3xfire3

"Obama Campaign Says Mitt Romney Is Either a Crook or a Liar Regarding his Role at Bain Capital"

 

But both National Fact Checking Organizations "The Fact Checker [Washington Post]" and "FactCheck.Org" say that Barack Obama and his campaign are the LIARS.

 

That both National Fact Checking Organization's Research came up with the same conclusion only shows how dishonest the President and his Campaign have become.

 

Barack Obama does not deserve to be re-elected.

The Washington Post "The Fact Checker" gave Obama and his Campaign 3

Pinocchios

 

One Pinocchio

Some shading of the facts. Selective telling of the truth. Some omissions and exaggerations, but no outright falsehoods.

Two Pinocchios

Significant omissions and/or exaggerations. Some factual error may be involved but not necessarily. A politician can create a false, misleading impression by playing with words and using legalistic language that means little to ordinary people.

 

Three Pinocchios

Significant factual error and/or obvious contradictions.

 

Over 5,000 Liberals and Democrats sent comments to The Washington Post and "The Fact Checker" expressing anger about the conclusions which were based on extensive research by Glenn Kessler.

 

Apparently truth and honesty are not important to them. It appears there are many liberals and Democrats who believe truth and honesty are not important when they are in conflict with their political views.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Thinks4Herself
Thinks4Herself

Mitt hides his money in order to not pay taxes, "enjoys firing people," offshores our jobs, is the creator of "Obamacare" that he won't own up to, had horribly low job creation as governor, suckles at the tits of the Koch brothers and rich benefactors, but now we're supposed to believe he's all about the middle class and that he cares?  He's simply the candidate of the top 3% and nothing more!

James Boland
James Boland

The entire Republican clown car needs about 30 years out of office in order to find themselves again. The era of Eisenhower and Reagan is very far in the past and instead we have Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, the Iraq war and a host of other fiascoes to unscramble. I don't think that with the sorry state the Republicans left the nation in the last time they were in office that we can stand another four years of a Republican president.

James Boland
James Boland

Mitt Rommney reminds me of the guy whoaid me off, Conaleeza reminds me of Dick Cheney, they guy wh almosy got my brains blown out. But none of them come close to the hood ornament of the Republican clown car, George Bush.

I am a buzz-cut ex-military guy and wish the Republicans had someone I could vote for but the days of Reagan and Eisenhower are far in the past.

Okay BHO is a liberal lawyer, I could care less if he is purple and leading a leather parade in San Francisco. The economy is better wars are winding down life is good and he seems to actually care about people.H he deserves 4 more years.

Carol Dijkhuyzen
Carol Dijkhuyzen

From London,we are waiting for Romney the Crook to arrive ..I will terrorize him about  his SEC form..It's a federal felony act..

bob3905
bob3905

Here's the thing about corporations, large, medium and small businesses. They all want to maximize profit and grow. In an economy such as the one we are now in growth seems unlikely. What you are left with is holding onto to and maximizing profits. This both keeps the company afloat and, if publicly traded, the stockholders happy. One thing you don't do with little to no growth is hire more people. You should be looking at reducing staff and the salaries and benefits that come with them, not hiring.

So, job creation at a government level cannot happen unless the government continue to send stimulus dollars to the firms that build a repair our infrastructure. Giving tax breaks to companies and the people who run them means nothing. Why should they hire people they don't need,  people who will be a drag on their profits, people they learned to live without thanks to the downturn?

The way I see it these companies need breaks so they can pay their existing employees a decent wage. If our wages were increased to the  level of 30 years of price inflation then we could all buy more and in turn the companies we buy from will need to increase staff to meet demand. This is the only way we get jobs back. Simple math? Hmm.... 

Benevolent Lawyer
Benevolent Lawyer

This is the second election cycle the party has chosen someone they knew had a lot of baggage and probably would not make a good President. First, McCain, now Romney!

They are pushing minorities out of the party and making this "Hate Obama" and "Black people like free things", and "give us back our country"  red meat to fire up an erratic base in order to gain votes. It is very divisive to promote a lynch mob mentality in this way just for votes. It is bad for the country and sullies the electoral process.  

They tell us to vote against Obama and elect Romney, and for many of us who think, especially minorities who are Conservatives, that is not an option.

We knew that selecting a male Gucci model would not cut it for the country. Even if he were to win, in some magical way, he is not good for the country. Gingrich was a better choice but he was ugly and short so they rejected him???? Even though he had some scary views, overall, I now think Gingrich was a better candidate.  Huckabee would have been way better too, but I am sure he did not want to subject his family to the ruthless destruction in the manner that  was wrought on Gingrich by Romney.

Now what do we have? A man who thinks all he can do is scream that he is not the other guy, and  give us the Palin equivalent of seeing Russia from his window... etc.

Being extremely rich in the private sector does not automatically qualify anyone to run this country. The Presidency should not be an automatic entitlement for the wealthiest.

Yes, Romney can race bait, ignore minorities in his own party and elsewhere, deride the Healthcare plan even though he knows it is good for the middle class,  and hide himself in a cloak of "vote against Obama and not for me because I know you do not like me"... but for how long? This ruse is an assault on our collective intellect and the worst is still to come when the billionaires release their billions to gain their "rightful" control over the masses.  :(

We need to know whom we are voting for. This is not Halloween and we need more about the man behind the mask.

Yes, I am furious that the Republican party is so far Right now that it is an embarrassment.  I am also irritated that the establishment foisted Romney down our throats, another bad candidate, hoping that the billionaires and all the explosion of negative ads would confuse the country into electing someone no one really knows.

No matter how this plays out, Santorum was right. We picked the WORST possible candidate. And if he is elected, heaven help us all!  I know we will be at war again in a heartbeat because of an out of touch President who has the full backing of the hawkish war mongering maniacs of the last Republican administration.

The "Bain- Romney drama",  and "Be sure to elect the man behind the mask and find out what you got later", is for reality shows on MTV.  This is the American Presidential election and not "The Bachelorette"  reality show.

http://blackrepublicanandmywor...          

3xfire3
3xfire3

Ben,

"This is the second election cycle the party has chosen someone they knew had a lot of baggage and probably would not make a good President. First, McCain, now Romney!"

Congratulations. You're number 1.

You have won the honor of having made the dumbest comment of the day.

CalBM1
CalBM1

The bad thing about this is that people walking around that did not fisish school or with a ged making minimum wage will cut their own throats because they are bigots and not smart enough to get a good job.They wll blame Obama because they still believe is is not a citizen , even though it was proven that he is.

3xfire3
3xfire3

Michael you lie again. It's getting to be a normal practice for you.

It appears you will do anything to push your own LW political agenda.

Fact:  Ted Kennedy's popularity killed Romney in 1994 not Bain.

sacredh
sacredh

And Obama's popularity will kill Romney in November. Some things never change.

3xfire3
3xfire3

sacredh,

Ha, ha, ha.

sacredh
sacredh

Remember our bet for November. If Obama loses, I go on every thread on the main page and say that I'm out of touch and that the American people have rejected the democrats and their agenda. If Romney loses, you say that the American voters have rejected the republicans.

.

You may as well start preparing something now.

bobell
bobell

Read Michael's story again, 3X.  Ted wasn't all that popular back then and was thought to be in serious jeopardy.  Mitt committed electoral suicide.  He's about to do it again.

Was Michael lying yesterday with that story about the alleged falsehoods in the Obama ad?  (He was wrong, but was he lying?)

fhmadvocat
fhmadvocat

3xfire3,

Why would an over-floated, out of date Liberal with a dupious past be popular even in Massachusetts?  Maybe Liberals are more numerous that you previously thought.

3xfire3
3xfire3

fhmadvocat,

The Kennedy family owned that Senate Seat. They bought it and paid for it many times over.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

It's no longer the 1970s and you can no longer simply show up a la Raygun and say "I'm not HIM" and win elections.

Unemployment is indeed over 8% but that per se is not enough to "beat" BO.  (Most people know the unemployment rate is mostly not of his creation anyway and are giving him a long rope.)  It takes an opponent with solutions to do it.  Momney doesn't have solutions that I know of.

Yobi Mekonnen
Yobi Mekonnen

 "It takes an opponent with solutions to do it.  Momney doesn't have solutions that I know of."

May I please please add that.... and he have been running for President for the last 6 years lol  

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

You have my permission to add.  ; )

Carol Dijkhuyzen
Carol Dijkhuyzen

Why can't Romney issu  his past decades of taxes if he ha nothing to hide for crying out loud?Why on earth would he say,I don'tnow where my offshore accounts are!!!He closed them!Romney is like  Ferdinand and Imelda,maybe beyond them..There is not one Ameican canddate fro Presidet hiding dough outside America,the FFaters would exile him!

Ralph
Ralph

And,you just raised another important point since clearly it appears both

Willard Mittens and Ann Romney they are above the law and therefore sure are the new American Version of Dictator Ferdinand amp; Imelda Marcos all

over again,only this time right here in  the good old USA!

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

Not the best English I've seen, but I like it.

Carol Dijkhuyzen
Carol Dijkhuyzen

Iam sorry for my type errors!I have to buy another Acer!And I was thinking in French!

bobell
bobell

Sacred, I was told you speak of tongues. Something to do with your government job, no doubt.

I speak of tongues occasionally too.  Usually when I'm at the deli.  The tongue is right next to the pastrami.

sacredh
sacredh

Don't feel bad. I think in tongues. I'm too self-conscious to speak in tongues.

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

People who believe in our system of capitalism will not have a problem with Bain or Romney. They understand in business, PRIVATE business, people do get fired, laid off and / or let go for business reasons.  

That's the beauty of our system, a private business can make decisions based on it's best interests.  

However, our socialist friends on the left feign outrage at the thought such practices could ever happen in our "great society".  That people could possibly take their own money, invest it in a business and hope that one day they will turn a profit.  

Reading down thread, the dooms sayers for Romney will have one hell of a surprise come November.  People are mad at how the Democrats have controlled things for the past 6 years. They do not have jobs and it isn't because of Bain, it is because of the irrational policies put into place by one man, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.  Period.

3xfire3
3xfire3

LL,

Truthful and accurate post.

A new poll shows that 75% of our citizens say Romneys wealth is not a factor for them in deciding who to vote for.

That means the only ones who have a problem with Romneys wealth are Libeals and a few other LW extremist who were not going to vote for him anyway.

These clowns are in for a really big surprise in November when America reject their LW policies and candidates.

They live in a bubble and don't have a clue.

Yobi Mekonnen
Yobi Mekonnen

 3xfire3why are you bitching like a lil girl. (no offence). teach and learn stop the nonsense.

Pnnto
Pnnto

Links or you made it up.

Pnnto
Pnnto

Okay it is just as easy to say "I made it up"

Fraud.

3xfire3
3xfire3

Pnnto,

If you read/watched the News you would know it.

fhmadvocat
fhmadvocat

Rusty,

As a Liberal, I have nothing against Capitalism (just capitalists!) and I have no problem that Mitt Romney made lots of money at Bain.  If I were looking for a CEO of a company, I would say Romney is well qualified.  However, I am looking to elect POTUS, and the qualifications are completely distinct.  You can't run the country like you run a corporation.

The fact is Mitt served as Governor of Massachusetts, and being a governor is a qualification for being POTUS.  However, Romney never talks about his time as governor, the best indicator of what he would do as POTUS.  If he can't run on his record as Governor, what makes him think he deserves to be POTUS.

wagedronenumber9
wagedronenumber9

That people could possibly take their own money, invest it in a business and hope that one day they will turn a profit.

That might be true about the venture capital side of Bain, but the private equity side is a lot different because there wasn't any "hoping" to eventually turn a profit because they were "immediately" taking profit out of the company when they leveraged debt against its assets. The idea that Bain was noble capitalism by taking risks with its own money is romaticizing the vulture part of the investments they were involved in. 

This is why Bain is a big problem for Romney, most people already understand that corporations don't give a damn about anything but profits and a lot of what Bain did was just that. Some of their huge profit investments ended up in bankruptcy anyway because they debt that they leveraged on the company finally caught up with them. All the conservatives argue that paying off the debt is a high priority but Bain's equity side made money by making the companies go into debt. Which some of them never could get out of.

bobell
bobell

Um, Rusty, if some businessman wants to go around making money by destroying businesses, he may receive some criticism, but I agree with you that as long as he does nothing illegal he is free to go right on doing what he's doing, just as I am free to revile him.

But Romney is running for president, and his main argument is that he'll be a better job creator than Obama, much as Al Kapp told us that "What's good for General Bullmoose is good for the USA."  Mitt Romney is General Bullmoose -- but Kapp was being sarcastic.  Why is business success that's rooted in firing people a credential for curing an ecomony in which people are to be hired?

Plenty of people are mad at the Republicals for standing astride the Recession yelling "Stop" every time Obama tries to make things better. This is going to be a very angry election.

3xfire3
3xfire3

bobell,

You don't have a clue.

bobell
bobell

Aw, gee. And here I thought I was actually saying something.

It would have helped me to realize the error of my ways if you'd pointed out anything incorrect in what I said.

Yobi Mekonnen
Yobi Mekonnen

 3xfire3

and people like you are the core problem with this country.

vstillwell
vstillwell

Geez. The more I hear this, the more it makes want to vomit. What part of lobbying and buying influence in the upper most echelons of our government is capitalism? It's not. It's corruption. Have you had your dam$ head stuck in the sand over the last 20 years? What productive role has high finance played in our economy? Please explain. 

3xfire3
3xfire3

vstillwell,

Are you refering to the 4.4 billion dollars the unions sent on politics and lobbying? If you are, I agree with your point.

vstillwell
vstillwell

I think the Republican sugar daddies are going to eclipse that mark in this presidential election alone. 

LiberalLies2012
LiberalLies2012

Capitalism my dear socialist friend has created the greatest, longest lasting economy in the world's history.  That's a fact.  

vstillwell
vstillwell

You dunder head. What part of buying influence in our law making bodies is capitalism? That's corruption you fool. 

Sue_N.
Sue_N.

Until captalism brought the whole shebang down in 2008.

Pnnto
Pnnto

Worst candidate ever. 

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo....

3xfire3
3xfire3

"Worst candidate ever."

I totally agree barack Obama is the worst candidate ever.

Mitt Romney attended both Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School simultaneously,  graduated with top honors [Mag...Cu..Lau... A GPA between 3.8 and 3.9] and then passed the Michigan bar, but chose not to work as an attorney.

 

He is obviously a very smart and talented man.

 

I wonder if Barack Obama graduated with any honors?

 

Since we don’t know his grades and he did not publish any papers or even write as much as one article for the Harvard Law Review, I guess we will never know.

Pnnto
Pnnto

If you need more evidence of Willard being the Worst Candidate Ever see his CBS interview from this afternoon.

Buck stops with who? Not me!

I'm starting to wonder if there won't be a different nominee at the RNC. Willard is a disaster. 

Pnnto
Pnnto

" barack (sic) Obama is the worst candidate ever"

What would that make McCain? Do you understand the definition of "candidate"?

But, please, recycle the stuff from four years ago. Worked out great. 

3xfire3
3xfire3

Pnnto,

"Worst candidate ever."

I agree 100%. Barack Obama is the worst candidate ever.

Mitt Romney on the other hand would make a great President. He has the real world business, economic and leadship experience that Obama totally lacks.

 

He attended both Harvard Law School and Business School simultaneously,  graduated Magna Cum Laude and then passed the Michigan bar.

 

3xfire3
3xfire3

Pnnto,

"Worst candidate ever."

I totally agree. Obama is the worst candidate ever.

Mitt Romney attended both Harvard Law School and Business School simultaneously,  graduated Magna Cum Laude and then passed the Michigan bar, but chose not to work as an attorney. He is obviously a very smart and talented man. I wonder if Barack Obama graduated with any honors. Since we don’t know his grades and he did not publish any papers or even write as much as one article for the Harvard Law Review, I guess we will never know.   

sacredh
sacredh

McCain was pretty horrible and he was just the last one.

Pnnto
Pnnto

Politically McCain looks like Clinton compared to Willard.

And I hear rumors that Willard is thinking about Condi Rice as veep. It's like he wants to lose.

3xfire3
3xfire3

attended both Harvard Law School and Business School simultaneously. He graduated Magna Cum Laude and then passed the Michigan bar.

Ralph
Ralph

The mere fact a desperate Willard Mittens Romney is even thinking about naming George W Bush's Shoe Shopper in Paris

Absentee then National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice as

his Vice President only goes to prove how desperate Romney

really is,that he would even consider the Total Incompetent

Condi Rice as his running mate after Rice and her incompetence

and dismal total failure to make sure Bush Crime Family Member "Junior" George W Bush understood the warning about

Osama bin Laden and Al_Qeada Planned 9-11 Terrorist Attack

on the USA,before Rice went shoe shopping in Paris,but not

to worry since Bush rewarded Rice for it by promoting her to

Sec of State as you may recall. No thanks to Rice and Romney

in 2012. We do not need another 9-11-2001.

sacredh
sacredh

If Romney chooses Condi, he needs to have his head examined. I can't believe he's want to tie himself in any way to the Bush administration. My own guess is that the Rice talk is in a similar vein to the about face he did with the Rubio talk. Throw the name out there in a pathetic attempt to appeal to a demographic.

bobell
bobell

At least McCain had once been an honest man.  And he was a true war hero, whereas Willard fought his war against all those non-Mormons in France.

I have voted for Republicans occasionally in my fairly long life, but never for president and not in the past couple of decades.  As things now lie, I vote enthusiastically against them -- early and often.

3xfire3
3xfire3

He attended both Harvard Law School and Business School simultaneously,  graduated Magna Cum Laude and then passed the Michigan bar, but chose not to work as an attorney.