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Richard Giles
Richard Giles

I have never been a Democrat.  After serving in the Marine Corps I voted for JFK in my first presidential election and never again for a Democrat until voting against GWBush.  Actually I was a registered Republican probably for more years than a lot of those posting here have lived.  Admittedly I was an independent Republican as I abstained rather than ever voting for Nixon.  Now I consider myself an Independent and I’m currently registered without declaring a party.  Why the drastic change?

To tell the truth, I really can’t see how any member of the majority can be rational and objective and stay committed to the Republican / Tea Party.  Bush-Cheney, with their irresponsible and total commitment to using their offices and America’s resources for a private agenda to benefit “the few”, their strong supporters and masters, really did it for me and ever since the Republican Party has continued that alienation with the same, or worse, mentality and are now simply literally owned and controlled by the money.  It isn’t whether you are a Democrat, a Republican, an Independent, a Libertarian or whatever, I won’t fault those individual values, those philosophies as they are personal and valid, but what is flagrantly clear is that the Republicans have completely abandoned the majority, the middle-class, and have become “puppets” to serve the money ... anyone in the 99% majority that supports them is not only being self-delusional but also self-punishing.  

With the power, influence and money provided by the 1% who “pull their strings”, they are cocky confident, stubborn and arrogant as they think they can con, use and abuse the people.   They have become emboldened by past successes with the manipulation of the “conservative” Christian (2000), the Swift-boat propaganda (2004), the Tea Party movement (2010) and even recently with the mega-millions spent in the Wisconsin recall, all being well designed, well organized and well funded efforts to control voters.  Now with the likes of Norquist, Cheney, Rove, the Koch brothers, SuperPacs and other billionaires they seek to continue their success, using their abundant funds to bombard the country with their propaganda and once more con the people and manipulate public opinion.  No one has to take anyone else’s word for it, it only takes recognizing reality by putting aside emotions, biases, prejudices, fears and loyalties to avoid being conned and to then rationally and objectively take a look.

Bush-Cheney were obvious and cost us greatly.  The full Republican Party totally supported all of that and continued with more of the same.  In the last twelve years the Republicans haven’t given the majority anything more than propaganda while insultingly taking them for granted as “pawns” to be used and abused.  They have constantly, irresponsibly catered to “the money”: with favorable policies; denying global warming to allow corporate pollution; blocking bringing American drugs back into the country to protect corporate profits; maintaining substantial oil subsidies; arrogantly faulting and stubbornly blocking all efforts without contributing anything; putting their political ambitions above all else; abandoning Afghanistan to attack Iraq; protecting the Bush-Tax Cuts for the wealthy; on and on propagandizing everything as “conservative” and attacking government spending, the deficit and “big government” as “liberal” and the problems.  Well reality is that while reducing spending and cutting the deficit are good causes, they don’t address what caused our problems; what has repeatedly caused our problems is exploitation by the few, encouraged and allowed by politicians catering to “the money”.  All of it stands to continue to cost the 99% as the 1% feed their insatiable “more” (never enough) appetite and it is all there for anyone who honestly wants to see it.

paulejb
paulejb

ARTraveler,

"Just look at their 2012 primaries where they still don't know who won Iowa because three counties votes "disappeared"."

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There is a difference between Republican incompetence and Democrat fraud.

outsider2011
outsider2011

 Only a label based on perceptions.

Nice try though, that was clever at least.

apr2563
apr2563

How would voter ID solve that problem?

paulejb
paulejb

Paul Dirks,

"I have nothing to 'prove'."

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I have nothing that I am able to 'prove."

I amended it for you to reflect reality.

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

Don't know why this poll wasn't posted, but... Looks like a continuing big drop in identification as Republican. Guess more and more people are becoming embarrassed.

http://polltracker.talkingpoin...

MomentoMori
MomentoMori

Here's a  shocker. A Republican being honest.

Mitt Romney shouldn’t be criticized for using off-shore tax havens because “it’s really American to avoid paying taxes, legally,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)

paulejb
paulejb

MomentoMori,

Beats hell out of the way Democrats do it. Da Dems just don't pay taxes.

Geithner, Rangel, et al.

http://audacitywatch.com/?p=83... 

MomentoMori
MomentoMori

 Can anyone tell if paulie is against tax dodgers or for them?

He's so anti-everything it's hard to tell if he has an actual opinion other than 'whatever a liberal said I'm against it".

Speaking of "But Ma! They did it, too!", has anyone seen Freeper lately?

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

He was banned and as we know he wasn't very technologically literate, so I guess he couldn't figure out how to spawn a new id to sneak under the ban. I'm sure his new group is delighted to have him as a member since he had so much to contribute.

Sue_N.
Sue_N.

Makes me wonder what would happen if Obama came out against playing in traffic or sniffing glue.

paulejb
paulejb

Paul Dirks,

"Because everyone knows that there's no such thing as 'left' and 'right' in Israeli politics...."

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Can always count on you for a pointless non sequitur, Dirks.

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

If you want to assert anything about "The left" then you have to deal with the fact that you are inevitably lying. The left is not a monolith, but you ARE a liar.

paulejb
paulejb

Paul Dirks,

You boys sure march in lockstep just as if you were a monolith.  My experience is that if you have seen one liberal, you have seen them all.

paulejb
paulejb

Palladia,

"What DOES wind your clock?"

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TRUTH, JUSTICE, and the AMERICAN WAY. Everything that liberals hate. 

Palladia
Palladia

Please. . . expound on these.  Tell me EXACTLY what you mean by these terms.

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

Odd. You're the one with a reckless disregard for the truth. Your interest in justice doesn't extend to equal protection for all Americans or the free exercise of the right to vote, and your corner of the 'American way" seems to fail to include most Americans.

Other than that.......

paulejb
paulejb

Paul Dirks,

Come up with some evidence to prove your allegations or stop wasting my time.

I am in favor of rights, I only object to special privileges. 

I am also all in favor of the vote. I particularly want enough people to vote to overcome the Democrat margin of fraud.

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

You're free to stop wasting time at any moment. 

I have nothing to 'prove'. Your failure to acknowledge your errors and baseless assertions does NOT constitute my failure to demonstrate them. It only reinforces the knowledge that you don't give a rat$ a$$ about the accuracy of what you post.

ARTraveler
ARTraveler

It was Bush's friend who builds the voting machines which don't have written trails who guaranteed him a victory.  The Republicans worry about the Democrats stealing one vote while they plot to steal entire princincts or towns.  Why steal small when you can steal large?  Just look at their 2012 primaries where they still don't know who won Iowa because three counties votes "disappeared".

MomentoMori
MomentoMori

This is the what the GOP has in store for you when they say they want fewer regulations on business.

Black Lung on the Rise; Excessive Mining and Corporate Malfeasance to Blame

"...black lung is rapidly on the rise amongst coal miners, a generation

after it was optimistically believed it could be stomped out completely"

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201...

Palladia
Palladia

I heard about this early this morning.  Deaths and diagnoses, both, are up.  And apparently there's some fudging of records by coal producers and less-than-enthusiastic enforcement by MSHA.

I wonder if people would think that coal is such a good idea if they understood the true cost of it?  Not just in terms of lives, but in terms of damage done by mining, the problems of burning it, and so forth.  Of course, most people who use electricity don't live in "coal country," so they don't see it.  They flip a switch, something turns on, end of problem.   Or, in some cases, like the areas without power after the storms over a week ago, it doesn't work, and there's a real problem that way.

The idea that we ought to be thinking about alternative sources?  Yeah, we'll get around to that, some day.  Maybe.

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

I also heard the story on NPR's Morning Edition. I grew up in PA anthracite country before the strip mines played out. It something you don't forget.

Link to transcript as well as audio. Remember this next time you see that lovely blonde woman telling you about clean coal.

http://www.npr.org/2012/07/10/...

ARTraveler
ARTraveler

Don't forget the earlier posts about TB on the rise in Florida as Fueher Leader Scott  closes the hospital that treats the worse cases and fired the Health Department director that pointed out the problem.  Most of us remember all of the precautions we went though in our childhood because of the fear of TBH.

filmnoia
filmnoia

The ironic thing is  that on election day the majority of those miners will hack their lungs out going to the voting booth and pull the lever for Willard.

Gotta learn who your real enemies are people.

Palladia
Palladia

Here in Coal Country, there are yard signs proclaiming, "Stop the War on Coal  Fire Obama!

We have gotten through the current (but far from last) heat wave, pastures are crispy, food costs are going to be going up, because 30% of the nation's corn crop is in "poor" or "very poor" condition.  I water my vegetable garden twice a day.

The reason why I can do this is because I have this wonderful aquifer which keeps my 1,000 gallon cistern full, and has so far (over 40 years' experience) never failed.

Ah, but the coal company which owns the "coal reserves" in this area is planning on extracting them.  Some years ago, I was told this would never happen, but here we are.  The surface preparation is truly invasive, and, best of all, I will probably lose this wonderful water resource because of cracking rock strata.  There are places which would go to war for this water, but I cannot, because the legislature has given the coal company effective eminent domain.  I was told, bluntly, that if I resisted, that the company would "seek injunctive relief," and get it.  And then, they'd make me sorry I had resisted.

This is sort of like being told that your wife, before ever you met her, had had a contract let by which she would be "turned out" into prostitution.  But, aha!  If she happens to get pregnant, you can get a free abortion (and you're a "right-to-lifer") and if she picks up an STD, she'll be treated, for free.  And, best of all, you get to watch it happen in real time!

It gets better.  My representative in the state legislature is in prison for having used state resources for election campaigning, and his office is vacant.  My state senator is a stone Republican who sends me boilerplate letters, telling me why he won't vote as I have urged him.  And (lately ex) Senator John Pippy, who represented parts of Allegheny and Washington Counties - also "coal country," and the home of Consol Coal, is going to become a spokesperson for the coal industry, which doubtless pays better than being a state senator.  And he was, you might say, a "fellow traveller" to the coal industry while in Harrisburg.  Oh, and he's a Republican, too.  Never would have guessed, would you?

paulejb
paulejb

Steve0T,

"The bigoted right keeps on finding new minorities to exploit and bully. Quelle surprise.---------------------------------------------------------

The race baiting left keeps expanding the victim class. They have never seen a group that they didn't want to exploit.

ARTraveler
ARTraveler

The Right hasn't found a group that isn't white and over 65 that they don't hate.

Palladia
Palladia

I'd be a little careful with the word, "exploit," if I were you.

The middle class got pretty badly "exploited" when things imploded under Bush.  A lot of 401(k)s went down the drain.  A lot of kids got sent off to war.  And then, there was 9-11, which, had it happened on a Democrat's watch, would have resulted in accusations of treasonous negligence.  But since it was Bush, well, he got a pass.

He evidently got a lot of "passes."  Why didn't we ever see HIS college transcripts?

ARTraveler
ARTraveler

How come when someone is right, paulie suddenly says it was both sides.  The Republicans must walk on water in his opinion.  Frankly, most of them couldn't float in the Dead Sea.

paulejb
paulejb

Palladia,

The middle-class took it on the chin because both parties caved in to panic and bailed out the bankers.

401(k)s went down the drain but if you held on they came back.

No one went to war who was not a volunteer. (And thank God for every one of them)

OBL was given a pass out of the Sudan because Bill Clinton had a failure of nerve.

GWB's college grades are certainly better than BHO's.

Palladia
Palladia

And if the bankers hadn't been "bailed out," what would have happened?

Have you ever had a 401(k)?  I ask, because I did, and it didn't "come back," really.

It is true that we now have a volunteer military.  And we have wasted a lot of their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan, IMHO.  I suppose it's good that we're learning a lot about treating catastrophic injuries and explosive concussions, though.  And we're learning about the deleterious effects of three or four tours of duty in war zones, always nice information to have.  Not to mentionwasting  a lot of money, a great deal of which just disappeared, in cash, shrinked-wrapped Benjamins, never to be seen, accounted for, or (apparently) worried about.  Poof. 

Mr. Clinton's "failure of nerve. . ." what do you mean, exactly?  His administration did pass on to the Bush administration the information that bin Laden was apparently bent on an attack on American soil.  Mr. Bush was not impressed, and said so.  What should Clinton have done in Sudan (a sovereign country) that would have prevented 9-11?  Specifically?

I have always heard that Mr. Bush got "gentlemen's C's" which are not going to get someone into Harvard Law.  Oh, and he was a legacy baby.  So. . . how do you consider that his grades "are certainly better than BHO's?"

Got proof?

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

So when you accuse people (out of thin air) of anti-semetism, it's not race baiting because it's you who's doing it.....?

Like I said. Just plain nasty.

paulejb
paulejb

Paul Dirks,

Please stop. The left is pro-Arab and anti-Israeli. That can not be disputed.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...

Palladia
Palladia

Yeah, actually, it can be disputed.

For a long time, I thought that Israel could do no wrong.  Then, I really looked at the situation.

The death ratio between Palestinians and Israelis in this conflict is about 10: 1, overall, with more Palestinians having died at the hands of Israelis.  Far more Palestinians are interned by Israelis than vice-versa.  The Israelis persist in building where they really should not be building, and using bureaucracy to make life miserable for the Palestinians.  In a very real sense, Palestinians are often treated by Israelis as the Jews were, during W.W.II in Europe. 

They have bulldozed homes and Palestinian olive groves that are hundreds of years old.  I can't help wondering what Americans' reaction would have been if a new country had simply been carved out of, say, (pick your home area) and there it was.  How would we be responding?  Particularly if these newcomers had the governance of you, your family, your lands, and so forth.

I don't think that Israel should be "eradicated," as some of the Arab countries seem to think.  I DO think that the state of Israel ought to stop some of the particularly un-neighborly practices they have pursued.   I also think that the various Arab nations ought to take a deep breath and "come to terms."  After all, it was these Arab nations who refused to accept Palestinian refugees when they needed some place to go, because the Arab nations were, basically, using them to keep pressure on Israel.  And, yes, I know that Palestinians have killed, blown things up, and so forth.  Children, even.

There's a particularly apt middle Eastern "joke."

A farmer, plowing, turned up a brass lamp.  Knowing the stories about a genii, he rubbed the lamp, and, sure enough, a genii flowed out.

"Here's the story," said the genii.  "You get one wish.  But whatever I give you, I will give to your enemy twice over.  What do you want?"

The farmer thought, long and hard.  Finally, he grinned bitterly, and said, "Put out one of my eyes."

It doesn't really matter whether the farmer is a Palestinian or a kibbutzim, does it?

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

Because everyone knows that there's no such thing as 'left' and 'right' in Israeli politics....

Once more. Reckless disregard for accuracy. And a nasty streak besides. You really DO need to lay off the sauce.

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

I see paulie's getting particularly nasty with his baseless accusations today.

Maybe happy hour was a little early this afternoon.

paulejb
paulejb

Paul Dirks,

Did I hurt your feelings, Dirks? I know, the truth hurts.

Paul Dirks
Paul Dirks

So do baseless lies.

But then again, your absolute disregard for the accuracy of what you post is quite well documented. 

paulejb
paulejb

Paul Dirks,

There you go again. Ranting about lies. Yet you have never proved any of your allegations. It's getting old, Dirks.

paulejb
paulejb

Steve0T,

"Next, you will be telling the Jewish folks to "get over it"Oh, you won't . You are a hypocritical Teabagger."

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Jews know that there are a lot of people out to kill them all. The only ones who want to enslave blacks are liberals.

MomentoMori
MomentoMori

"The only ones who want to enslave blacks are liberals."

Ted Nugent is a gun-lovin', tea partyin' conservative just like paulie, and he thinks the South should've won the Civil War.

Looks like Ted, paulie, and their conservative friends are the only ones pining for the days when blacks were slaves.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

See that paulie? That's the difference between a baseless accusation and proving a point. Learn from your mistakes.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

Keep digging that hole, Paulie....

paulejb
paulejb

nflfoghorn,

Threats, foggie? I do not react well to threats.

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

What threat?  The threat that common sense is seeping into your cerebellum?  All I was saying is that you're embarrassing yourself. 

The hole's getting deeper....

Palladia
Palladia

What DO you "react well to?"

Facts don't seem to make any impression.  Reality is apparently optional. 

What DOES wind your clock?

MomentoMori
MomentoMori

Gov Nikki Haley thinks victims of domestic abuse and sexual violence are a distraction.

And so the GOP War on Women continues.

South Carolina Gov Vetoes Abuse And Rape Prevention Funding, Calls It A Distraction

http://thinkprogress.org/polit...

nflfoghorn
nflfoghorn

'Wonder if she's ever been abused....

Ivy_B
Ivy_B

Hoping she is the woman Ann Romney hinted at as a VP candidate, although I think Meg Whitman is more likely. I'd settle for either.