Fresh Evidence the GOP Can’t Touch Health Reform

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REUTERS/Jim Young

Last night, Mark Knoller of CBS Radio News caught President Obama on a hot mike. The President was chatting with donors at a fundraiser in Chicago, recounting negotiations that preceded the 2011 budget deal. Here’s what Obama says he told congressional Republicans who were bent on dismantling health reform via the budget bill:

I said, ‘Let me tell you something. I spent a year and half getting health care passed. I had to take that issue across the country and I paid significant political costs to get it done. The notion that I’m going to let you guys undo that in a six-month spending bill?’ I said, ‘You want to repeal health care? Go at it. We’ll have that debate. You’re not going to be able to do that by nickel-and-diming me in the budget. You think we’re stupid?’

Republicans were not able to dismantle the Affordable Care Act in the recent budget deal. Major defunding efforts have gone nowhere; ditto for efforts to repeal major pieces of the law. But Republicans still need to make it appear as though they are chipping away at the law. And they are in some ways, as I’ve written earlier.

But in this recent budget deal, the GOP came up almost completely empty handed. Republicans managed to kill a provision called the Free Choice Voucher program and championed by Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden. It would have given some 300,000 lower income Americans more freedom in how they purchase health insurance. Other than that, the only damage Republicans were able to do on health care concerned a provision creating non-profit, health insurance cooperatives. These were put into the bill as the public option was taken out as a sort of alternative.

In an early summary of the budget deal, the Republican-controlled House Appropriations Committee gloated that its budget bill “terminates two programs funded in ObamaCare (the Consumer Operated and Oriented Plan (CO-OP) and the Free Choice Voucher programs).

But the CO-OP program was actually not terminated. Rather, its $6 billion budget was cut to $3.8 billion. (The GOP sunsequently updated its summary.) This is significant, but it’s certainly not terminal. In fact, an advisory board set up to design the CO-OP program voted today to approve a set of recommendations that will be the basis for federal rules governing how the cooperatives should operate.

Before the board voted via conference call today, Richard Popper of the HHS Center for Consumer Information & Insurance Oversight came on the line to thank members for drafting the recommendations. Despite the Republican cuts to their budget, Popper sounded upbeat – certainly not like an administration official who’d been recently dealt a body blow.

Thanks to the recent budget debate, Popper said, “There is renewed interested…at higher levels in the Administration…on how this regulation will be structured…All the work that you did and implementation activities are moving forward.”

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  • chupkar

    What’s funny is the whole “oo ah” quotient going on. But unlike past POTUS eavesdrops on tape at fundraisers, he wasn’t swearing or deriding or saying something opposite privately than publicly. He was less diplomatic sounding but I’ve heard him say a million times “Let’s have that debate, in public.” Made me pretty proud of him. He sounds in private much as he does in public. He’s a straight shooter.

  • nflfoghorn

    Since he has no BC-like moral shortcomings, his opponents have resorted to derisively labeling his policies (“Obamacare”). I just wish he would let his hair down more (proverbially ;) ).

  • kbanginmotown

    haha! Good one, foggy!
    .
    BTW: I’ve noticed a discomfiting increase in the number of posts about Teh Donald’s candidacy. Palin and Bachmann have vanquished the kittens and puppies; which animals do you think will be slaughtered by Trump Posts?
    .
    I’m thinking Guinea Pigs or Cockatoos, since they’ve both got wild hair issues, but I’m open for suggestions…. ;)

  • nflfoghorn

    I nominate ferrets.

  • chupkar

    My personal feeling is, get him past 2012 and the left will see more of the hutzpah they wanted. It’s what I’d do.

  • nflfoghorn

    He wouldn’t give a toot then. Come to think of it, W didn’t the whole eight years.

  • koabd

    Since he has no BC-like moral shortcomings, his opponents have resorted to derisively labeling his policies (“Obamacare”).
    .
    Well…let’s not forget that they also take every opportunity to invalidate his entire Presidency (see the birther movement), question his motives in relation to a father he spent no more than a few hours with his entire his entire life (see Dinesh D’Souza and Newt Gingrich), insinutate that he wants to destroy America (see Tom Tancredo and Congressman Wally Herger), and threaten the solvency of the Union if any ideas he has are inacted (see the Governor of Texas and Chuck Norris). I’m just sayin’.

  • acameronw

    “It would have given some 300,000 lower income Americans more freedom in how they purchase health insurance.”

    This was taken out of the bill by House Republicans. Could someone please explain to me why the GOP is against that? Is it because the people it would help have committed the unforgivable sin of being “lower income Americans”? Or is just another knee jerk (accent on “jerk”) reaction to the health care reform bill?

  • http://truthofthematter38.wordpress.com righthook38

    The reason the GOP has a hard time with this is because Democrats are much better at playing hardball. The GOP is too nice. Dems aren’t afraid to play dirty and pull out the “scare seniors and tell people kids with autism won’t have health care” card. GOP tries to convince you to vote their way. Dems will twist your arm until you do it. Maybe Boehner should take a lesson from Pelosi. Of course, then that would make us like them….

  • ogliberal

    Two words:
    ..
    “Death Panels”
    ..
    Case rested. (Or was your post snark?)

  • jsfox

    This is a joke right? If anybody has mastered the fear card it is the GOP. In fact almost all their policies are based on be afraid, be very afraid.

  • doubleang

    yeah….I don’t think I have EVER heard someone say its the Dems who are the hardballers.

  • paulejb

    righthook38@5,
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    Democrats are not better at playing hardball. They are better at lying.
    .
    The GOP is not too nice. Too often they are too stupid.
    .
    Democrats have been scaring seniors for decades. That tactic has exceeded it’s shelf life. It is less effective now.
    .
    Democrats favor saving kids with autism by aborting them.
    .
    The GOP appeals to your patriotism. The Dems appeal to your greed and envy.
    .
    I hardly think that Nancy Pelosi has any lessons to teach anyone. She lasted just 4 years as Speaker and lost her position in one of the most lopsided elections in history.

  • np042

    Scare tactics from the Democrats? That’s a good one.
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    Death Panels (as mentioned)
    Terror Anchor Babies
    Illegal Aliens
    the “Ground Zero” “Mosque”
    Homosexuals want to destroy X (or liberals, or progressives, or whatever the current not-conservative flavor is)

  • outsider2011

    If the post wasn’t a joke – the poser was.
    .
    You posted a pretty funny post too, Paul. Good to see you on the board. Actually sounded like a fairly sane blog for a bit there. Thanks for coming

  • np042

    The GOP appeals to your patriotism. The Dems appeal to your greed and envy.

    That’s a good one. I’ll remember that next time that Freeper (or you) start off about how taxes are too high etc etc.
    .
    But that is a mighty fine strawman you erected there. Could probably even have your own version of Burning Man with it.

  • paulejb

    jsfox@5.2,

    Do you mean like this 1998 Democrat ad in Missouri?
    .
    “When you don’t vote, you let another church explode. When you don’e vote, you allow another cross to burn. When you don’t vote, you let another assault wound a brother or sister. When you don’t vote, you let the Republicans continue to cut school lunches and Head Start.”
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    That kind of blatant fear mongering, fox?

  • paulejb

    npo42@5.5,
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    No one does fear like the Democrats.
    .

  • paulejb

    outsider2011@5.6,
    .
    Well, thanks for the welcome, outsider. Right back atcha! Glad that you’ve been entertained.

  • paulejb

    npo42@5.7,
    .
    Republicans are the party of those pulling the wagon. Democrats represent those getting a free ride in the wagon.

  • carotexas1

    Kate I do not expect to see any democrats that post here upset at losing health cooperatives. I do not think it came close to a substitute for a public option. Blue Cross Blue Shield started out as a cooperative, and look what happened to them.
    I do remember that Joe Klein was a big fan of Ron Wyden’s plan.

  • paulejb
  • paulejb

    Barack Hussein Obama — “You think we’re stupid.”
    .
    Well, yes.

  • m0mentom0ri

    “those getting a free ride in the wagon”
    .
    Who are the ‘those’ you refer to? Care to name names? Got anyone specific in mind?

  • m0mentom0ri
  • m0mentom0ri

    “Well, yes.”
    .
    Is that right-winger for “Duh! Winning!”?

  • paulejb

    And then there is this for all the avid fans of Dennis Kucinich here.
    .
    http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1104/dennis_kucinich_ventriloquist.html
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    You must all feel very reassured.

  • paulejb

    momentomori@7.1,
    .
    We have not seen the bottom yet for Barack Obama. My guess is that it will set new records by the time he is done.
    .
    Rasmussen currently has him at -15 in the Daily Tracking Poll.

  • paulejb

    momentomori@8.1,
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    Well, it’s not WTF! {Winning the Future}

  • paulejb

    momentomori@5.12,
    .
    Yes I do!
    .
    1. Public employees’ unions.

    2. Crony capitalists getting bailouts.

    3. UAW
    .
    4. AARP on board with ObamaCare.
    .
    5. Pharmaceutical companies on board with ObamaCare.
    .
    Just to name a few sucking at the government teat.

  • kbanginmotown

    Ferret has the right attitude. I was thinking about the ‘do.
    .
    What about a llama: http://i.imgur.com/JUDq7.jpg (link)

  • blueswede04

    I think if you just refer to “Barack Obama”, most people will probably know who you mean. It’s a little shorter and snappier.

  • blueswede04

    @5.13
    .
    Don’t forget all the red states sucking at the government teat.

  • koabd

    Barack Hussein Obama
    .
    I don’t seem to recall a conservative obsession with calling the 43rd President “George Walker Bush” or “George WALKER Bush” or “G. Walker Bush.” Neither do I recall a conservative obsession with calling out the full name — William Jefferson Clinton — of the 42nd President. Is there any particular reason for this, Paul? We know his middle name is Hussein, okay?

  • apr2563

    I wish just once Obama would stand up to the Birther propagandist and ask if they are calling his father, mother, grandparents, family, friends, hospital, and state officials all liars.
    .
    I know if someone called my parents and grandparents liars I would be very angry.

  • apr2563

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/will-anyone-even-insure-seniors-if-paul-ryans-medicare-plan-passes.php?ref=fpb
    .
    Will Anyone Even Insure Seniors if Paul Ryan’s Medicare Plan Passes?
    .
    Can you answer that paulejb? Try reading the whole article before sharing your knee jerk opinion.

  • nflfoghorn

    Paulie, you just suck.

  • nflfoghorn

    THAT particular alpaca works! ;)

  • np042

    So what is it Paulie? Either you admit both sides try scare tactics, although nothing can compare to Fox News and Glen Edward Lee Beck*, or you’re a hypocrite.
    .

    .
    *Just for you Paulie

  • paulejb

    blueswede04@5.14,
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    I never understood why liberals use federal payments to red states as a talking point. Isn’t that admitting that you blue staters are suckers? You pay the highest taxes and get the least in return. What’s up with that?

  • paulejb

    nflfoghorn@5.15,
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    I see that you have given up any effort to reply with an adult response and have fallen back on schoolyard taunts, foghorn. You might as well say “no mas.”

  • paulejb

    npo42@5.16,
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    Republicans are rank amateurs at fear mongering, npo. Democrats are the true professionals.

  • paulejb

    blueswede04@8.3,
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    How about I refer to him as BO?

  • paulejb

    koabd@8.4,
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    So? It’s his name, isn’t it? What’s your beef?

  • paulejb
  • hippooath

    “I never understood why liberals use federal payments to red states as a talking point. Isn’t that admitting that you blue staters are suckers? You pay the highest taxes and get the least in return. What’s up with that?”
    .
    Simple – red states take in much less so that the federal government have to give them more – that way they can pretend to live up to some fiscal conservative values, which is by the fact that blue states pay for it, all baloney. You say we’re suckers; think of it as we in blue states realize we’re ALL part of the union. Only red states think that being part of the union is for red states to pretend they can live large but pay less while it so happens to be on the back of blue states.
    .
    It’s a matter of living in fairy land (red states and their constant unicorn magic) and blue states wanting the best infrastructure and society.
    .
    So, we are suckers for the good of the nations while you red staters want to live the Somalia dream with the best living standards.

  • hippooath

    “koabd@8.4,
    .
    So? It’s his name, isn’t it? What’s your beef?”
    .
    Because it’s smallish and childish.

  • ohiolibb

    Isn’t that admitting that you blue staters are suckers? You pay the highest taxes and get the least in return. What’s up with that?
    -
    Well, it might have something to do with realizing we are one nation and not a collection of greedy genocidal wingnuts. It might have something to do with believing that clean air, roads, and communication are all important. It might have something to do with a belief that the wealthiest, most power nation on earth should be able to provide important services to everyone, even those who don’t have the ability to pay for it.

  • apr2563

    paulejb, I do have some respect for Foster who opposed but failed to convince Bush how bad the Medicare Plan D was.
    .
    Please tell me where in the attached article where it addresses the incentive for health insurance companies to enroll the elderly.

  • rwbbinla

    @5.17.. Everyones Federal Taxes are the same across the states. It is just that right-wing states cannot support themselves or their residents (due to a lack of a tax base) and need more help from those who can. I take it from your post that you admire this poverty and low standard of living that is a requirement for more Federal Funds. The populace in these red states are surely winners!

  • np042

    Republicans are rank amateurs at fear mongering, npo. Democrats are the true professionals.

    So then it would be easy to provide numerous examples beyond a 1998 Missouri ad and one Senator, right?
    .
    It should obviously be easy to find examples that propagate throughout the entire party such as:
    .
    Birthers
    Anything to do with Muslims (see aforementioned “Ground Zero” “Mosque”)
    Anything to do with illegal aliens and/or Mexicans
    .
    It would be easy to find a show on television that constantly spouts conspiracy theories about things such as
    .
    George Soros
    The Muslim Caliphate
    Socialist Commie Fascists (who may or may not be Muslim)
    .
    It should be real simple, if the Democrats are, as you say, the “true professionals” to find plenty of examples.
    .
    Or at least it would be if you were living in reality.

  • np042

    It’s all about emphasizing the “Hussein” portion of his name. It’s foreign, it’s different, and it’s used to try to show he is one of the “Other.” It’s yet another way to try to illegitimize the president when they have nothing else. It’s Paulie’s way of playing to the Birther meme without actually coming out of the closet.
    .
    If you’ll notice, occasionally the full on birthers (such as Rusty) will refer to him only by Hussein. In their minds, having such a non-”American” name lends credence to the (absurd) notion that he is not American.
    .
    It’s quite sad, really.

  • ogliberal

    Paulie – You mean Rasmussen has Obama at -15 in his strongly approve v. strongly disapprove metric. Overall, Rasmussen has Obama at only -1, better than Gallup. (Which has happened several times – it’s weird, when Gallup shows Obama near his lowest, Rasmussen has him pretty high…when Gallup goes up, Rasmussen goes down. It was only at the beginning of Obama’s term and earlier this year that both were roughly in agreement.)
    ..
    And, btw, the best comparison between recent presidents is Obama v. Reagan, who both inherited similar economic situations and some messy foreign policy issues. If you go here you’ll see that Obama is still polling better than St. Ron the Gipper: http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

  • Mychelle

    Is this really planet Earth that many of these writers are on or is this an alternate reality. The Democrats are better at scare tactics than the Republics. HA, HA, HA. NOT!!

    The middle class, working class, poor working class, social security retireds get a free ride. HA HA HA NOT!

    The rich build big houses, have big bank accounts, fleets of cars. They want the government to protect them.

    Who do the Republicans and the rich want to pay for the fire departments, the police, the trillion dollar military. They want the poor and the middle class to pay. The rich don’t want to pay taxes to protect their wealth. The rich don’t want to pay for education to educate the workers who run their businesses that make them rich.

    The trillion dollar military is not their to protect the poor man’s home. The cost of one weapon system would build homes and pay for the health of thousands of poor people.

    The rich want to go back to the 1920s when the working classes, the poor, and the disabled were absolutely powerless and the rich could play fast and loose with Wall Street. The rich could spend all the money on their own egos without caring about the rest of the country.

    The Republicans and the rich are working throughout the country to take voting rights away from the poor by limiting updating voter registration, destroying groups like Acorn, who organize the poor and get them to register and to the polls, they are redistricting states to favor the rich. Then they are trying to scare the rest of the country into thinking its the Democrats that are a threat to the American way of life. When it is really the Republicans who want government in your bedroom and listening in on your private life to keep you powerless.

  • lysheen

    @5.8
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    1998 Missouri? ‘Nuff said.
    .
    You wanna know how far back us snooty libs have to go? Hold on, let me turn on Fox News…I’ll be back in 5 minutes.

  • lysheen

    Actually it doesn’t make us feel anything. The only people who get warm and fuzzy watching Dennis Kucinich’s ventriloquism are Fox News groupies like you.
    .
    You’ve spread quite a bit of knowledge around on this thread, thank you.
    .
    You think you can find your way back to the Fox News forum, please? If that gets boring, there’s always youtube.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    “The rich build big houses, have big bank accounts, fleets of cars”
    .
    Indeed they do. The last house I worked on employed about 200 people at various times over the space of the year that it took to complete it. That doesn’t count the employees in the factories, and lumber yards, etc. that supplied the tools and products. A lot of paychecks from the building of just one house.
    .
    We need to tax these evil rich people more! That’s the answer indeed!

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    We need to tax these evil rich people more! That’s the answer indeed!
    .
    Your anecdotal rich person’s house was one house. How many other houses is (s)he building for himself?
    .
    What y’all don’t get is that the relatively small number of rich people here in the US can’t/don’t consume enough US goods and services to provide the demand that’s needed to promote a healthy, middle-class American lifestyle.

  • paulejb

    hippooath@11,
    .
    Why blame me? Blame his parents.

  • perrywhite1

    Actually, Mychelle, I don’t think the Repubs are trying to take us back to the 1920s. By my estimate, they’re shooting for the 1880s.

  • mark8585

    If we had anyone in government with any imagination at all we’d have a plan we could all live with. Maybe not something everyone would love but something we could live with, read a short book called Creativecare by Dave Leonard and see what I’m talking about. I hate Obamacare and I’m not crazy about Ryan’s idea either but this book makes sense. Read it and pass the word, maybe we’ll get something done for a change.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    “What y’all don’t get is that the relatively small number of rich people here in the US can’t/don’t consume enough US goods and services to provide the demand that’s needed to promote a healthy, middle-class American lifestyle.”
    .
    Ok inesteen. Let’s tax em to the gills so they consume even less. A lot less!

  • http://sexsceneserotica.wordpress.com —————–

    I must admit that I tend toward the pessimistic view, and so I hope this author is correct. The reason I am inclined to believe that the overall effect of this budget’s passing may not be so deleterious is that a member of the disabled community here in Berkeley has assured me of that.

    When we criticize the government (as we have the right to do) sometimes we need get stuck on the negative. To look again at the overall picture to ensure our personal sanity seems wise.

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