In the Arena

Shutdown Day

The absurdity of the current moment in U.S. politics is truly astounding. Ezra Klein, as usual, gives a smart, concise account of the current state of play. But it’s important to step back and take a look at the big picture, as I tried to do the other day in this post–unfortunately, more than a few commentators, and one Time.com headline writer, were waylaid by the (limited) credit I gave Paul Ryan for courageously raising tough issues and ignored the fact that I found his solutions wanting.

To summarize: our deficit problems are not immediate; they are long term. I’m in favor of reforms that would make old-age entitlement programs more efficient, so long as they don’t adversely affect the middle class or the poor, but the best way to deal with the long-term problem is simple: pay for it. That is, restore taxes to the Clinton levels of the 1990s. This is an answer that Ryan and the Republicans flagrantly ignore. We had a budget surplus 10 years ago. We would have one now but for the following factors: the Bush tax cuts; the Bush wars; the Clinton-Bush housing bubble and refusal to regulate Wall Street, which created the crash of 2008–which removed $500 billion in tax revenues per year from the rolls and made two large stimulus packages necessary: the Democratic package of 2009 and the Republican package of 2010. We would still have a long-term deficit problem if all that hadn’t happened, but it would seem a lot more manageable.

There is a far more serious problem, however: The current deficit conversation is misleading and counterproductive. We are still clawing out of a recession; oil price inflation and economic dislocations caused by the Japan earthquake may hamper our ability to get back into the black. This is not a time to cut spending; indeed, it’s a time for prudent investment in government projects (especially big, green infrastructure) that will provide long-term economic benefits. Indeed, I agree with those who consider the deficit-fetishism of the fancy-classes (including some of my columnar colleagues) a form of useful idiocy in support of the immediate, dangerously myopic and decidedly cynical Republican program.

If the President accedes to the current demands–and I’m thrilled that he appears to be hanging tough–he’s walking into a trap: the Republican budget cuts will force layoffs and firings among the federal work force and subcontractors–which, in turn, will raise unemployment (it’ll interesting to see what effect the layoffs at state and local levels will have on unemployment rate), which the Republicans will then lay at the President’s doorstep. Worse, the Republican budget cuts will prevent us from important work like regulating Wall Street, as enacted in last year’s financial reform package, which will, over time, lead to another speculative orgy and crash. And worse still, the various restrictions visited on the upper, technologically-adept levels of the federal workforce–those who test new drugs and monitor Wall Street and try to regulate air pollution–could cause a brain drain that will also, over time, severely hamper our efforts to run an advanced, information age government able to monitor the latest technological advances.

Again, there are federal programs that should be reformed or removed. Ryan’s long-term budget opens the door to a productive conversation about farm subsidies and job training programs, for example–and even on Medicare (which should be reformed, but without the draconian assumptions Ryan builds into his plan). But that’s down the road and far removed from the immediate point: the current Republican budget-cutting proposals are dangerous and unnecessary. We don’t need to cut the budget anymore right now. We need to recover from this recession, and buffer the devastating economic effects on its victims–and then we need the private sector, with government encouragement via incentives for innovation, to find the path to growth once more.

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  • Paul-no not that one

    If readers miss what the writer believes the point is then the onus is on the author not the reader.
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    Having said that, I agree that if BHO capitulates he will be walking into a trap.
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    My guess is he will.

  • gysgt213

    Joe-I don’t think anyone is listening.

  • bobell

    JOE — You talk about Paul Ryan “courageously raising tough issues.” That’s bullsh!t, and you ought to repudiate it. Ryan’s budget is closer to Swift’s “Modest Proposal” than it is to a realistic way of mastering the deficit. It’s a coward’s budget — a bully’s budget — toadying to the rich while beating up on everyone else.

    But don’t take my word for it — I’m just some iggorant Swamplander. Read Paul Krugman’s column today in the Times. Then consider that Krugman was being, if anything, too kind to Ryan.

    Ryan’s plan is a classic instance of making demands so extreme that any “compromise” will give the right-wing extremists most of what they want. That any rational person not in thrall to the Tea Party (if, indeed, anyone in thrall to the Tea Party can be called rational) would have one kind word for it is a perfect illustration of the debasement of the mainstream media and political discourse in this country.

    I’ve never been among those who reflexively criticize you. On the contrary, you do a great job of ferreting out information and drawing sensible conclusions from it. (You’re a pretty good novelist, too.) But you’re way off base on this particular point, and I think you owe your sane readers an apology.

    That said, I agree with you completely on the matter of taxes. I’d get hit by almost any conceivable tax increase, and I’m willing to make that sacrifice rather than take health care away from tens of millions of Americans. Can the Koch brothers say as much?

  • http://petermilley.wordpress.com petermilley

    “Courage” implies risk, the possibility of loss.

    What, exactly, do you think Paul Ryan has risked losing?

    Republicans and pundits, his audience (and let’s be clear this was theatre) are adoring Ryan for kicking poor people and the middle class in the teeth. And this was eminently predictable.

    So what, exactly, did Ryan risk to earn this badge of “courage” you’re so eager to bestow upon him?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Why don’t you just acknowledge that ‘courageous” was a poor choice of words and we’ll all move forward. That would be the courageous thing to do. ;-)

    Beyond that, this post makes an important point that isn’t being said nearly often enough. The Republican plan is to deliberately sabotage the employment recovery and then turn around a blame Obama for the result.

    It’s Job One……

  • Matt

    As long as Boehner continues to assert that he is in lockstep with the Tea Party a shutdown will happen. This has been the dream of the Republican base since last November. Any compromise with the president or Democrats is simply unacceptable. The Dems have agreed to every last cut save for a few million in funding for Planned Parenthood, yet Boehner still refuses to sign off on it. That’s pure partisanship. The people of America are watching…
    http://www.sunstateactivist.org

  • http://redhatmandan.wordpress.com Daniel

    there you go again with that word “courageous.” There’s nothing courageous about Paul Ryan’s plan. It uses bad numbers, shifts the burden back to seniors to pay for their health coverage just so the rich (people like you Joe Klein) can get an even greater tax cut. Nothing courageous about that at all.

  • hippooath

    2 riders – EPA and planned parenthood and the GOP is claiming to be the responsible adults.

    It will be a sad day if the dems cave on this since it’ll only be another step to more hostage taking over every single bill. It’s not like GOP and their diehard tribalists actually care about anything outside their bubble.

  • garyteal

    Democrats continue to wave away the broader, historical reason we are in this situation, saying that what’s done is done. But if the government has passed a budget last fall (and they had many chances), the Republicans would have had no say in this budget. (Maybe they knew the voters would be angry if they didn’t make cuts and their supporters would be angry if they did.) They are to blame, not in part, but in full.

  • hippooath

    So 100% of what one party suggests should always pass? Even back in October when the dems should have done it? So why does this rule not apply to GOP in 2006? But of course GOP is not at fault for salting the budget with social conservative agendas that should be in separate debated bills.
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    What you’re asking for is the tyrrany of one house against the rest of the branches by your alleged ‘majority’ against the constitutional right the minority house and majority senate have the right to say ‘no deal’.
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    You don’t like the democratic process do you?

  • hippooath

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/FACT-CHECK-Are-federal-apf-3113687231.html?x=0

    Lets get those underpaid federal workers because we’re broke.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Klein is just a centrist stooge for right-wing extremists. How many times does he have to prove it?

  • square1

    Sorry, but I’m with everybody else. What is courageous about this?

    What would genuinely be courageous would be if Paul Ryan proposed tax increases. For example, back when George H.W. Bush raised taxes, over the opposition of his own party and in violation of his own “read my lips” campaign pledge, he courageously addressed the deficit deficit issue despite knowing full well that he would take a political hit.

    What risk is Ryan taking? He is pandering to the tea party and corporatist bases that hate spending on “entitlements” and love tax cuts.

    You could argue that Ryan risks pissing off the elderly. But Ryan’s budget arguably hides what his Medicare “reform” would do so that seniors don’t know how bad they would be screwed. So, unless the Democrats do a full-Grayson on Ryan and pour tens of millions of dollars into his district to oust Ryan in 2012, which they won’t, I don’t see how Ryan was courageous.

  • allthingsinaname

    The absurdity of the current moment in U.S. politics is truly astounding. Ezra Klein, as usual, gives a smart, concise account of the current state of play. But it’s important to step back and take a look at the big picture, as I tried to do the other day in this post–unfortunately, more than a few commentators, and one Time.com headline writer, were waylaid by the (limited) credit I gave Paul Ryan for courageously raising tough issues .

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    Again you lost me right there.
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    Welcme to the New GOP

  • http://shortplaysaboutrealpeople.wordpress.com Michael Maiello

    I agree with pretty much all of this but have to point out an ugly fact — the private sector has found a way back to growth. Profits are up for big businesses. Cash balances are up. Productivity is way up. The private sector has regained pretty much all of its pre-recession lost ground and in some industries (energy commodities, some parts of tech) have surpassed old highs already. But they’re doing it with leaned out work forces.

    Now, you might believe this will just take time. Eventually those workers will be exhausted and will need reinforcements and then hiring will begin.

    Or you might worry that the pendulum has swung so far in favor of employers that the existing workers dare never claim exhaustion and that the private sector managers have learned that they can have more from less forever.

    If the latter is true, then we need new regulations to spread wealth and opportunity throughout the country and we perhaps need to revisit the issue of capital controls.

  • thisdavo

    I lived in Janesville, WI for a few years, Paul Ryan’s home town and part of his district. I’m afraid that his demeanor, and the unusual boldness of his economic plan, have convinced many opinion leaders that he’s both honest and sincere.

    I have no doubt he truly believes that the corporatization of many present government programs would benefit the U.S. economy. But it would be a mistake to take this sincerity as proof of honesty. There have been at least a few times when he’s told some real whoppers, usually outlandish distortions or misrepresentations of data, in his campaign advertising and public statements. Caveat emptor.

  • http://scrimbul.wordpress.com scrimbul

    FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER
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    Oh, you didn’t get a budget passed last year? Shame on you for slacking! You should have sewn our mouths shut and held us at gunpoint to get a budget passed!

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    …courageously raising tough issues…
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    Pretty much the same ones he ‘raised’ a year or so ago when he released his ‘Roadmap’?
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    Pretty much the same ones the Dems were trying to address with the PPACA, letting the Bush tax cuts expire, et cetera?
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    Pretty much the ones that jibe with his party’s extremist agenda?
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    It’s your odd, ignorant-of-history definition of courageous that people object to, Joe.

    …the current Republican budget-cutting proposals are dangerous and unnecessary.

    But ‘courageous’ in that we’re talking about (some) things that the right wing wants us to talk about which we’ve been talking about all along.

    We don’t need to cut the budget anymore right now.

    I disagree. There needs to be a continuous effort to make government more efficient; this implies that we evaluate programs and end/defund the ones that are obsolete/don’t work while streamlining and improving the ones that work/meet the needs of the public.

    Cut where we can and spend where we must.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    I propose to balance the budget by selling David Brooks, and all employees of the Washington Post and Time magazine into slavery.
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    Sounds extreme, I know, but these are serious issues. I am taking a serious look at these serious problems and talking about serious, grown-up sacrifice.
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    PRAISE ME FOR MY COURAGE.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    Man, you bring a tear to my eye.

    I’m thinking Congressional Medal here. Nothing less for someone so willing to sacrifice other people for the greater…whatever…

  • sacredh

    Elvis. Selling people is just a horrible idea. Do you have any idea of the feelings that are going to get hurt if nobody bids on them?

  • sacredh

    Maybe a two fer’ one package. Buy the one you want and then they can throw in a freebie of the ones that don’t get any offers.

  • boboberg

    46% of all Mississipp­i’s republican­s want a ban on interracia­l marriages. What wonderful human beings are the Mississipp­i republican­s, trying to spare us from interacial marriages.­That’s not the least of it. Are you surprised that the republican­s want to drop the highest tax brackets for the richest Americans down to 25% at the same time that they want to deny funds to Planned Parenthood­, the National Endowment for the Arts, NPR and PBS and are proposing to eliminate Medicare? What are 75 or 80 year old Americans going to do with the proposed Republican health care vouchers? Which insurance company would ever insure them? The Republican­s and their racist, stingy puppeteers the Tea Party do not represent the middle class, the poor nor any minorities­. Republican­s despise the middle class which we cearly see in their nationwide attacks on the police unions, teachers unions and all labor unions. We are at war with the republican­s, they are a clear enemy to the American people. Mark Montgomery NYC, NY boboberg@nyc.rr.com

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Thanks for your kind words, grape. But after all, I do deserve them. I’ve started a very serious conversation about serious important things. Also I’m white, and I often wear suits.
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    sacred, I see your point. Kinda like the Marlins making the Tigers take Dontrelle Willis if they wanted to trade for Miguel Cabrera. Fair enough. Under my newly modified deficit reduction plan, anyone who buys Karen Tumulty has to take Michael Scherer too.

  • sacredh

    “Also I’m white, and I often wear suits.”
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    Unless we’re talking birthday suits, you’re an elitist. Suits should only be worn for funerals and weddings.

  • sacredh

    And even then it’s only if you’re the groom or the corpse.

  • garyteal

    I just don’t see the weakness in this list:
    1. The voters chose one party to control both the White House and both chambers of Congress (including a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate).
    2. That party could have passed their own budget by the deadline.
    3. After the election was over, they could have chosen to pass an overdue budget with these same majorities.
    4. They chose to put it off, wait for the new Congress, and compromise with a new Republican House.
    5. It was their decision alone to create this situation.

    There’s no tyranny at work. The legislation that passes has to clear both chambers and the President. I love the democratic process. Sooner or later this will be resolved, today or a month from now; the nation will not cease to exist.

    You’re right to point out that Republicans were in control that year, and they chose to deal with the new Democratic Congress in early 2007. The Republicans made that decision and had to live with it. Riders are not a new idea – they’re just conservative this time, but the Democrats knew they would be.

    I would oppose anything to do with threats at gunpoint, but the sewing idea sounds promising.

  • shepherdwong

    People, it’s simple. If Klein believes this: “…Medicare (which should be reformed…,” then he must praise “Paul Ryan for courageously raising tough issues.”
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    Since he seems to best doing his best at playing catchup with people who can understand and explain the macroeconomics, perhaps someone will explain to him that Medicare works better than any other part of our healthcare system and that no “reform” of the former is possible without reform of the latter. The again, ignoring the elephant in the room, whether “conservative” extremism or the fact the our private sector insurance-based healthcare system costs the country at least a trillion dollars a year more than it should, is a Beltway profession. They call it journalism.
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    http://www.kaiseredu.org/Issue-Modules/US-Health-Care-Costs/Background-Brief.aspx

  • diecash1

    Medicare works better than any other part of our healthcare system and that no “reform” of the former is possible without reform of the latter

    One quibble: It is possible to reform Medicare/Medicaid without reforming the rest of the HC system. It might not be the most desirable way but it’s entirely possible. That said, I believe that the fee-for-service aspect of Medicare and the silo-like nature of the system must be changed. I think it would be drastically better and more affordable if it were changed to a managed care program. If it’s successful, it could be a pilot program for the entire HC system. Just another dream, I suppose.

  • shepherdwong

    It is possible to reform Medicare/Medicaid without reforming the rest of the HC system.
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    The point is, it doesn’t do a damned thing about the cost problem – it merely shifts some of it from public cost to private cost.

  • mayread3

    Thank you, Mr. Klein! This article provides the clearest, most intelligent explanation of the current budget-related political situation I’ve read so far. I think that it is unconscionable that the GOP would put our country, our middle class, women, children and older folks who have worked and paid taxes all of their lives in jeopardy in order to stubbornly stand on a narrow and extreme ideology that represents only a small segment of our society. If there is a shutdown tonight it will not be, despite the GOP ten-second sound bites to the contrary, because democrats would not compromise.- It WILL be because of is the GOP’s narrow minded intransigence, and their desire to see our president fail at all cost. Please keep writing about this, Mr. Klein, as Thomas Jefferson said “an informed citizenry is the only true repository of the public will.”

  • shepherdwong

    I think it would be drastically better and more affordable if it were changed to a managed care program.
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    How to deal with the cost problem isn’t a big mystery either, if you were able to strip out some of the gross profit-seeking of the pharmaceutical and hospital industries. If we stopped putting people into the intensive care unit to die (rather than hospice care) and using $billions of name-brand drugs that are no more effective (sometimes less so) than generics, the cost-savings would be dramatic.
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    At that point, we need to go to war against Coca-Cola and the corn-syrup lobby.

  • diecash1

    My point being that we have to start somewhere and currently Medicare is pretty unsustainable over the long term so something must be done. It’s a program that is popular among seniors and if it can be reformed or restructured to make it better and more sustainable, it could then be used as a model for reforming the larger HC system. I think it would be a good start given that the larger system wasn’t reformed significantly in the last go around.

  • hippooath

    “I just don’t see the weakness in this list:
    1. The voters chose one party to control both the White House and both chambers of Congress (including a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate).”
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    No they didn’t. Are they all GOP? You know that they represent their district right? If this was true the voters would have voted for either or party, not both where one happens to get majority in something. This is like elementary knowledge. Only in a tyranny do you vote for one person or party to have all of the majority.

    “2. That party could have passed their own budget by the deadline.”
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    GOP could also have done so in 2006, but that’s irrelevant to the question I asked you.
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    “3. After the election was over, they could have chosen to pass an overdue budget with these same majorities.”
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    And that is relevant how?
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    “4. They chose to put it off, wait for the new Congress, and compromise with a new Republican House.”
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    And?
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    “5. It was their decision alone to create this situation.”
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    Really? It’s the dems fault completely? So what you’re saying is that GOP created a budget, added riders that should belong in separate bills and debated and said pass this. That’s Tyranny. That is the house, one of two entities deciding approving a bill demanding 100%. Something you seem to think too. Forget all the handwringling about what they shoulda coulda. The only thing that matters is if one party is responsible to sign off on 100 of what the other party proposes. If you can’t say yes to that your entirely list of points is moot. That is NOT how our political system works.
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    “There’s no tyranny at work. The legislation that passes has to clear both chambers and the President. I love the democratic process. Sooner or later this will be resolved, today or a month from now; the nation will not cease to exist.”
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    Yeah, and – you love the democratic process but seem to think that the dems have to pass everything GOP demands. That is not a democratic process.
    “You’re right to point out that Republicans were in control that year, and they chose to deal with the new Democratic Congress in early 2007. The Republicans made that decision and had to live with it. Riders are not a new idea – they’re just conservative this time, but the Democrats knew they would be.”
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    Riders are a awful idea and they know it. If they were so darn great they wouldn’t have any problem making them into separate bills and debate them. Just signing off on them without debate is terrible for a democratic process that is centered around debate and consensus.
    “I would oppose anything to do with threats at gunpoint, but the sewing idea sounds promising”
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    I don’t know what that means even.

  • shepherdwong

    My point being that we have to start somewhere and currently Medicare is pretty unsustainable over the long term so something must be done.
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    Got it. My point is that Medicare is pretty unsustainable over the long term because overall US healthcare spending is pretty unsustainable over the long term. I’m not against Medicare “reforms” that reduce costs. We already do that, which is why Medicare is more cost-efficient than the private-insurance system. But you can reform the sh!t out of it, until it doesn’t exist if you like, and we’ll still be flushing a $trillion dollars a year (at least) down the over-priced healthcare toilet. Medicare isn’t the problem.

  • diecash1

    Medicare isn’t the problem

    I get that part of Medicare’s problem is the spiraling HC costs due to the overall HC market but Medicare does have a variety of problems of its own that can be solved and that would provide better care at a lower cost. Obviously it would be better for Medicare if the price inflation existent in the overall HC industry were curbed. I just believe that it might be easier to reform Medicare first and extrapolate that onto the larger system. It’s a chicken-egg problem and while solving the overall problem would be best, improving Medicare is also of value. The larger problems of HC are basically intractable in the current environment.

  • shepherdwong

    I just believe that it might be easier to reform Medicare first and extrapolate that onto the larger system.
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    I absolutely agree. It’s one of the reasons it’s such a horrible idea to turn it over to the private insurance market. The incentive there is maximize profits not to reduce costs.

  • apr2563

    Mr. Klein here is a look at the “courageous” agenda of Mr. Cantor and his friends at the Heritage Foundation presented by a genuine expert on economics. You know Joe, you spread yourself too thin. Education, the Middle East, Unions, Economics, Politics: What other expertise to you have?
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/opinion/08krugman.html?_r=2&smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto
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    Ludicrous and Cruel
    By PAUL KRUGMAN
    Published: April 7, 2011
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    Many commentators swooned earlier this week after House Republicans, led by the Budget Committee chairman, Paul Ryan, unveiled their budget proposals.
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    Instead, it’s simultaneously ridiculous and heartless.

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    How does that translate to courageous?

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  • garyteal

    Hippoath:
    My comment was very poorly written in a couple of ways so I caused several misunderstandings. I’m not arguing in favor of the budget cuts either way; I’m talking about the process, and strategy.
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    Point number one was meant to refer to 2008, when the voters chose to put the Democrats fully in control. I don’t think that was tyranny.
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    “You’re right to point out that Republicans were in control that year” was meant to refer to 2006. I was trying to agree with you that the rules did apply to the Republicans then. In early 2007 a budget was finally passed, months after it should have been, with a Democratic House and Senate.
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    I do understand the process, even though my comment left the clear impression that I don’t. Trying to summarize, I was just saying that when a party is in full control they’d be better off passing their own budget while they can, rather than waiting until the next session when they’ll have to have negotiate with the other party. The Republicans took that risk in 2006/2007, and they were wrong to miss their September 30, 2006 budget deadline. The Democrats took that risk in 2010/2011, and it looks like it cost about 38 billion dollars.
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    It looks this morning like the Republicans gave away some of their riders in exchange for more cuts. I agree with you about riders; I’d like to see each bill deal with a single subject. The constitutional system worked, as it did in early 2007, and we have a budget that Harry Reid and President Obama are hailing as a good compromise.
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    I apologize: the gun/sewing crack was not directed to you, it was to scrimbul. I should have made that a separate comment or, better yet, not made it at all.

  • sacredh

    Provide a link please. You can’t say that without backing it up.

  • http://tisias.wordpress.com tisias

    Well I feel sick to my stomach after today.

    I’ll leave it to you to guess why.

  • http://jimticket.wordpress.com jimticket

    I’m continually amazed that we continue the blame Bush for everything. While it’s true that the economy suffered at the end of President Bush’s term, let’s not forget that the years following his tax cuts saw the largest increase in tax revenue in the history of this nation. What? Tax revenue went up after CUTTING TAXES?

    That’s right. Tax revenue went up because the economy grew. In 2008 and 2009, tax revenue (under those same tax cuts) fell dramatically. Why? Because of the economy. Fewer people working to make money and pay taxes translates to fewer tax dollars.

    You can argue whether or not the tax cuts themselves helped grow the economy but you cannot ignore basic facts. To claim that we are missing out on hundreds of billions of dollars in tax revenue by leaving the Bush tax cuts in place is an assumption and nothing more.

    if you want to increase tax revenue, don’t raise taxes, help grow the economy! IT’S THE ECONOMY STUPID!

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