The Nitty-Gritty Details of Paul Ryan’s Medicare Plan – CORRECTION

(An earlier version of this post said that Paul Ryan’s plan for post-2022 Medicare spending would be indexed to GDP. In fact, it would be indexed to inflation. The earlier post also implied that Ryan’s plan would spend about $400 less on Medicare over the next ten years due to his premiums support/voucher plan for the program. This is incorrect. Ryan’s new deign for Medicare would not begin until 2022.)

House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan’s new 2012 budget proposal is clear on a few things.

First, Ryan is very focused on reducing the size of the federal government; his plan would spend some $6 trillion less over the next 10 years than President Obama’s budget proposal. Second, the introduction of the plan means Ryan’s brand of long-term deficit reduction is now at the front of the Republican agenda — expect this to be a major topic of discussion during the 2012 presidential campaign. Third, costs for Medicare and Medicaid are increasing at rates that will eventually bankrupt the country. Democrats in Congress — and Obama in the White House — have not taken any steps to accept this reality and change it fundamentally. Ryan has.

His plan for Medicare, the insurance program for seniors that’s on an unsustainable path and accounts for about 13% of the federal budget, is extreme by any measure. His proposal would turn the program from a guaranteed benefit into a system in which private insurers would cover elderly Americans, whose premiums would be subsidized by the federal government. And he proposes cutting $700 billion–$800 billion from Medicaid by turning it into a state block grant program. Under Ryan’s budget, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), government spending on mandatory health programs would be reduced from 14% of GDP (under the current trajectory) to 5% by 2050.

But while Ryan has taken a bold step and brought some hard truths into focus, many of the details of his proposal remain fuzzy. Despite its massive cuts to Medicare and redefinition of the program, Ryan’s plan — called the “Path to Prosperity” — devotes just 3½ pages to the changes. I’ve managed to get a few more key details, which answer some glaring questions, but also raise a lot more. Here’s what we now know about how Paul Ryan wants to reshape Medicare and what I’m still dying to find out:

It Makes Medicare Voluntary

Ryan’s plan for subsidizing a private Medicare system actually uses the design for nonseniors found in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the health reform law passed by Democrats last year. Seniors would shop in a highly regulated exchange, or marketplace, and select among plans already vetted by the federal government. Each plan sold in the exchange would be required to cover a set of standardized benefits.

The subsidies seniors receive would be based on the value of Medicare at the start of the plan. The subsidies would increase at a rate indexed to inflation, which is growing much more slowly than health care costs. The upshot? Medicare beneficiaries would spend far more out of pocket under this system than in the current one. In its analysis of Ryan’s budget, the CBO makes this point repeatedly.

Under the proposal, most elderly people would pay more for their health care than they would pay under the current Medicare system.

Under the proposal analyzed here, debt would eventually shrink relative to the size of the economy—but the gradually increasing number of Medicare beneficiaries participating in the new premium support program would bear a much larger share of their health care costs than they would under the current program

According to the CBO, a typical 65-year-old with a private health-insurance plan covering standard Medicare benefits could be liable for 61% of his or her total health care costs in 2022 under Ryan’s plan. By 2030, the figure could be 68%. Ryan’s plan would vary subsidies to seniors based on income and health status — poorer and sicker beneficiaries would get larger subsidies. But the details of this are still unknown. Who determines the health risk, and how is that translated into dollars?

Ryan says the top 8% of earners would receive less Medicare subsidy support and that those qualifying for Medicaid or earning less than 150% of poverty would get extra federal dollars available in a medical savings account. Still, the CBO says:

… costs to individuals (beyond those covered by the premium support payment) would be higher under the proposal than under traditional Medicare, and some individuals would therefore choose not to purchase insurance … the number of older Americans without health insurance would be higher.

So how does Ryan’s plan prevent seniors from forgoing insurance? It doesn’t. Participating in Medicare would be voluntary. Since we don’t know specifically how subsidy levels would be set, we don’t know how many seniors would be able to afford private insurance or how many would simply choose not to buy it. Will there be a death spiral with the healthiest, younger seniors staying out of Medicare and causing premiums within it to skyrocket? What are the consequences for federal outlays if 75- and even 90-year-olds remain uninsured? They will, as the uninsured now do, still get care. It just won’t be paid for right away by the federal government. But it may well be at some later point, either via Medicaid or hospital charity care reimbursed by the federal government.

It Repeals Obamacare, Sort of

According to Ryan’s plan, repealing the Affordable Care Act would save $1.4 trillion by 2022, yet the plan doesn’t really call for repealing the law. Rather, Ryan wants to repeal the provisions in the law that cost money, meaning those that expand health insurance coverage to 32 million more Americans. Under Ryan’s plan, the subsidies to help low- and middle-income earners buy private insurance would be eliminated, which he says would save $725 billion over 10 years. Nixing the law’s additional Medicaid expenditures, including the expansion of Medicaid to all adults earning up to 133% of the federal poverty line, he says, would save $648 billion.

But the revenue raisers in the law? Ryan would explicitly keep the law’s cuts to Medicare funding, reinvesting the savings back into the program. No word on whether Ryan would eliminate or maintain the other revenue-generating provisions of the law. Under Ryan’s plan, what would happen to the so-called Cadillac tax on high-value insurance plans? How about the fees levied on the insurance industry, pharmaceutical companies and devicemakers? And what about closing the Medicare doughnut hole? The health care law closes the prescription-coverage gap at a substantial cost. Would Ryan reopen the hole? He doesn’t say.

It Raises the Medicare Retirement Age

Ryan would repeal the health care law’s insurance exchanges and individual mandate, which raises another round of questions. Would he leave in place the provisions that require insurers to cover pre-existing conditions? How about the regulations, set to go into effect in 2014, that say insurers must sell coverage to everyone (guaranteed issue) and end the practice of setting prices on the basis of risk or health status (community rating)? Again, he doesn’t say.

If Ryan’s plan is adopted as is — and it won’t be — absent an individual mandate but with guaranteed issue and community rating, private insurance prices in the individual and small-group market would go through the roof. This would lead to more uninsured Americans.

Even more vexing, however, is how 65- and 66-year-olds would get coverage. Although Ryan doesn’t say so in the Path to Prosperity document, which was released on Tuesday, his plan would raise the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 by 2033. This would save the federal government money, but if these people shop for coverage on the open market, one of two things will happen: insurers will either price them out, or drive up prices for everyone. Again, this depends on what Ryan would propose to do with the health care law’s new insurance regulations.

It might not seem fair to expect Ryan’s budget proposal to deal with all the complexities of the U.S. health care system. He’s pitching a deficit-reduction plan, not social policy per say. But that’s the thing about health care. If you change one fundamental element of it, you have to make adjustments all over the place. Ryan’s budget does not appear to do this — at least, not yet — and until it does, it will be hard to take him as seriously as everyone might want to.

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  • allthingsinaname

    “First, Ryan is very focused on reducing the size of the federal government; his plan would slash some $6 trillion in spending over the next 10 years compared to President Obama’s budget proposal”
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    But the CBO says he actually raises the deficit over what would happen if we did nothing. So why aren’t you reporting this?

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Hmm, one would have thought 30 years of Reaganite dogma plaguing Americans was enough

  • wagedronenumber9

    Maybe Ryan doesn’t do any number crunching on what will happen if Medicare gets changed because he is free marketeer who believes that the free market will naturally adjust itself to any changes?

    The GOPs are so Spartan! Have a huge military budget and stop paying for citizens’ health care so it can be kept.

    How about this budget plan, cut the military spending and collect taxes. Then you would have more than enough money to deliver what the rest of the countries in the world do for their citizens.

  • apr2563

    Simple health care plan: Single payer

  • Paul-no not that one

    “Second, the introduction of the plan means Ryan’s brand of long-term deficit reduction is now at the front of the Republican agenda”
    .
    “The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office’s initial analysis of the House GOP budget released today by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) is filled with nuggets of bad news for Republicans.
    .
    In addition to acknowledging that seniors, disabled and elderly people would be hit with much higher out-of-pocket health care costs, the CBO finds that by the end of the 10-year budget window, public debt will actually be higher than it would be if the GOP just did nothing”
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    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/cbo-gop-budget-would-increase-debt-then-stick-it-to-medicare-patients.php?ref=fpb
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    Who to believe? CBO or Kate Pickert/Paul Ryan?

  • Paul-no not that one

    Total votes in Wisconsin Supreme Court elections since 2000:
    2011: 1,452,184 (Prosser v. Kloppenburg; partial results)
    2009: 793,864 (Abrahamson v. Koschnick)
    2008: 830,450 (Gableman v. Butler)
    2007: 831,657 (Ziegler v. Clifford)
    2006: 502,688 (Crooks, unopposed)
    2005: 552,790 (Bradley, unopposed)
    2003: 800,785 (Roggensack v. Brunner)
    2001: 552,429 (Prosser, unopposed)
    2000: 817,748 (Sykes v. Butler)
    Source: Wisconsin Government Accountability Board
    .
    I wonder what has voters so engaged?
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    Must be that they are so happy with the direction Walker is taking Wisconsin, that’s my guess.

  • Matt

    Paul Ryan and the extreme Republicans in Congress are only interested in the “numbers” of corporate profits. This plan blows up the deficit while making deep cuts in programs that matter, “balancing” the budget with tricks that place he burden on ordinary Americans. RyanCare will literally kill seniors off by ending Medicare.
    http://www.sunstateactivist.org

  • kbanginmotown

    “Third, costs for Medicare and Medicaid are currently increasing at rates that will eventually bankrupt the country. Democrats in Congress – and President Obama in the White House – have not taken any recent steps to accept this reality and change it fundamentally. Ryan does.”
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    Did the Village just decide on its narrative? Don’t we get to vote?

  • freeinpa

    “Hmm, one would have thought 30 years of Reaganite dogma plaguing Americans was enough”
    .
    So Clinton’s 8 years were more of Reagan dogma? Who knew?

  • http://milascurtains.wordpress.com milascurtains

    sure
    and no insurance companies sitting on the neck of healthcare Industry with one and only goal – to rip you off.
    Just nonsense.
    Why Americans still didnt get it and still keep feeding those fat cats at no sense.

  • freeinpa

    Simple Tax form:

    What did you earn ________

    Send it in!

  • freeinpa

    “Paul Ryan and the extreme Republicans in Congress are only interested in the “numbers” of corporate profits”
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    Thanks for the repetition of the Democrats talking points. Now try to deal with reality. The country is going bankrupt spending money. The Dems keep talking about draconian cuts for less than 1% of the budget. There is no credibility on the eft..

  • diecash1

    Sure Ryan’s plan does something about the rising costs of Medicare and Medicaid if you think that you must first destroy the village in order to save it. I suppose that if Congress slashed the aforementioned entities along with Social Security and Defense by half, that would solve our budget problems too. Ridiculous.

  • nflfoghorn

    “He’s pitching a deficit reduction plan, not social policy per say”
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    Per say = per SE???

  • freeinpa

    “if you think that you must first destroy the village in order to save it”
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    No just keep promising them you can provide them with everything and more. Oh right that’s how we got here.

  • diecash1
  • pneogy

    “But while Ryan has taken a bold step and brought some hard truths into focus, many of the details of his proposal remain fuzzy.”

    Yep. That’s what we need. Hard truths that have been evident for decades brought into focus. And when it comes to solving the problem and implementing the solution, a bold step of the usual smoke and mirrors category.

  • outsider2011

    No, the US got into this situation by pursuing two wars and not paying for them.
    Nice revisionist history though. Well, it was a nice attempt anyway

  • staceysantas

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  • http://palmer1619.wordpress.com palmer1619

    Paul Ryan’s Medicare/Medicaid plan merely serves to subsidize health insurance companies. And he wants to do it with my tax money. Since insurance companies can raise their rates at any time even if it’s only to enhance the already exorbitant multi-million dollar paychecks of their administrators, I choose not to have health insurance. I fail to understand how the voters continue to put these people into office given their disdain for the citizens.

  • vstillwell

    I’m going to take a guess here and say that freeinpa is some sorry ass Reaganite baby boomer who loves Ryan’s plan because it takes a sledge hammer to everybody but the baby boomers. Typical of that generation. Low taxes and lot’s of services and wars and on and on and on with you stupid asses.

  • charlieromeobravo

    “There is no credibility on the left…”
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    And the right gave us the unfunded tax cuts and Medicare subscription give away that got us here. How much credibility does that earn the right?
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    I’ll say this about Ryan’s plan, it’s a brave re imagining of the way we do things. Not *that* brave since it has no chance of passing and he probably knows that but at least it puts some ideas out there that might stimulate some creative thinking. Unfortunately it’s also an entirely conservative document that doesn’t make any attempt to find any common ground with anyone left of the hard right. In their world, the free market is the answer to every problem, taxes never do anyone any good, and everyone has equal access to the resources they need to better themselves.
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    I’d be more welcoming of a plan like this if it wasn’t just designed to play to the tea party base.

  • outsider2011

    How come the right gets up in arms, and accuses BO of being a socialist for trying to take care of people, but then go silent when the GOP is trying to sell the US to the corporations?

  • jsfox

    Leaving aside his plan for Medicare which is DOA. What other unicorns are prancing around Ryans budget proposal.

    The unemployment rate at 2.1% has to be the biggest. First reaching an unemployment rate this low ignores almost any realistic economic model in existence which says that 4% to 5% is as low as you can go and not have extraordinary inflationary pressure on the economy.

    The Heritage Foundation is using the same model they did when they proclaimed, wrongly, that the Bush tax cuts would reduce the deficit and lead to millions of jobs. Neither of which happened – quite the opposite. The deficit doubled and net job growth was essentially zero.

    Even Bruce Bartlett thinks Ryans going to the Heritage Foundation calls in to question his projections.

    “CBO is what they use on the budget side — as a matter of procedure, any numbers from the Heritage Foundation or anybody else are essentially worthless,” Bruce Bartlett, a former Treasury official under President George H.W. Bush, said in an interview. “You can assert whatever you want to assert, but you can always find some half-baked tax think tank that will make up any number you feel like.”

  • Alex Vallas

    Paul Ryan projects himself as some kind of financial guru and expert on running the government. From all indications, he has neither the educational background or experience to promote that image. The problem with so many Republican proposals is they do not look at the very basics of “cause and effect.” They fire without a true analysis of the impact of their recommendations. I have read where some want to cut funding for the program that provides proper nourishment to poor expectant mothers. It is virtually axiomatic that undernourished mothers give birth to very tiny infants that require extensive medical care from birth and throughout their teens. So, one has to ask, where are the savings? I would assume that those poor mothers do not all of a sudden become wealthy. Some want cuts in education. Why would we do that when we lag behind numerous industrialized countries in science, math and language? Why would we want to “import brains” from China and India?
    Everyone acknowledges that cuts are absolutely needed. But it must be done with a thorough analysis of short and long term effects. Certainly, there is a huge amount of fat in Defense. There is also extraordinary fraud in Medicare that is adding hundreds of billions to our budget. There again, look at “root causes” for waste.

  • vstillwell

    According to the Republicans, the root cause of waste is anyone in a low tax bracket. They’ve got one problem: That tax bracket keeps getting bigger because of their assanine budget and tax policies.

  • barbrack

    I am 69 years old and have the Medicare benefit as do most of my friends. In my experience seniors give no thought to having medical treatments, no matter how expensive, no matter how unnecessary. They don’t pay. So who cares? Meanwhile, the country sinks further into debt. Attorneys are hard at work at creating work arounds for medicaid, which often picks up the bill for nursing home care after medicare has been drained dry. These tactics shelter assets from the government. A senior with stocks and real estate can afford to may more for Medicare. Mechinisms can be used to allow the senior to keep the asset but borrow from its value to pay just expenses. These folks are not poor. Why should every other American pay to preserve their estates? The truly poor seniors should pay less but there should be an incentive to be judicious in chosing what medical care to have. Going to the doctor should not be a social outing for seniors.

  • jollypants

    “But the CBO says he actually raises the deficit over what would happen if we did nothing.”

    The same CBO that said Obamacare (ie, socialized medicine) will save money? The same CBO whose cost analysis was off by a factor of 10 on the Medicare when it was created back in 1965?

  • http://nakedempire.wordpress.com nakedempire

    David Stockman weighs in……………we are screwed either way…………..the country is in a “box” that we wont get out of….

    http://nakedempire2.blogspot.com/

  • http://jhrieceea3.wordpress.com jhrieceea3

    Instead of continuing to punish the American public, why doesn’t someone in government address what the pharmaceutical companies and corporations over all are doing…case in point, medication which stops premature labor went from $20.00 a dose to $1500.00 a dose and this was in the news or when I read an article detailing how the same American pharmaceutical companies charge America twice as much as Canada for the same medications. Even the company that owns the oil rig that blew in Louisiana just gave huge bonuses to some of its upper management for its safety record..what a joke! And yes I was laid off and found another job where I bring home $500.00 less a month so I will lose my home and I do work with the government but I am paying for great corporate benefits such as the banks being deregulated and bailed out and I am sure my children and grandchildren will be paying as well.

  • http://jwpulliam.wordpress.com jwpulliam

    Young Mr. Ryan is a young republican who is on the make. What better way to advance yourself than to propose a sweeping, simple fix to a complex issue that has the same threatening proportions as the domino theory that got us into Viet Nam, the MAD doctrine, and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and the many other dire scenarios that have sapped our resources, credibility, and national wealth over the last century. Of course, he failed to mention the massive tax cut for our wealthiest patriots, which subsidize their pet congressmen’s lofty endeavor. That is the real audience he is playing to, because that’s is the only way to move up in the republican herd. Push the panic button and ramp up the fear has always been the political ploy of the man on the make.
    I would take him more seriously if he suggested ways of generating income such as giving tax breaks to small businesses and large corporations that produced value added jobs that increase the tax base in this country. He could also suggest ways to clean up the banking industry that promotes financial instruments rather than actual investments that produce jobs. He could try to eliminate crony capitalism from the financial industry by putting away, for long stretches, those that engage in insider trading.
    However, that would be biting the hand that feeds you, so, why not attack programs that don’t pay the big campaign contributions or have an army of political hack lobbyist’s to look after their interests. (Who says prostitution is illegal?)
    Beware of the man on horse back with simplistic cure all plans. Perhaps the prime beneficiary may be staring back at him in the mirror.

  • Alex Vallas

    You do have some legitimate comments. All too often, physicians will order tests that are absolutely unnecessary for seniors. I believe I am correct in stating 90% of medicare costs is to take care of seniors in their last year of life. Why prolong the inevitable? All too often it is a matter of prolonging life to prolong the income received. I am not proposing “death panels” but do believe better decisions need to be made with respect to treatment of the very old.
    My father did not have a living will and the docs wanted to treat him with chemotherapy when he was 89. Fortunately, he passed away the day before they were to begin. When my sisters and I said “no” the doc responded it was not up to us.
    Another senior I know attempted suicide as he could no longer stand the pain he was enduring. He was rushed to the hospital where the doctors did everything possible to save him (successfully). Why?

  • shepherdwong

    Ryan’s budget does not appear to do this — at least, not yet — and until it does, it will be hard to take him as seriously as everyone might want to.
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    A bit of projection there. Villagers want, no they need, to have some justification for treating Republicans seriously, as if they are respectable and worthy of consideration. Unfortunately, they are mendacious extremists who you are unable to tell the public the truth about. The rest of us have no compunction or reason to want to take him seriuosly.
    .
    Like most professional Republicans, Ryan is a prevaricator extraordinaire. If there were any ethics still left operating inside the Beltway, they would be shunned for their public lies and despised by journalists for the bald-faced lies told right to their faces, relying on their careerism and cowardice (and he-said-she-said conventions) to prevent them from calling out those lies in public (if at all).
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    The upshot in this case is, a good reporter has otherwise good reporting is serious tainted by propelling the Ryan/Republican lie that his plan is about “long-term deficit reduction,” and the right-wing propaganda talking point that our long-term debt problem will “bankrupt the country.” The government of the Untied States can’t go “bankrupt,” and could easily fix our deficit problem tomorrow by raising marginal top tax rates and cutting subsidies and tax breaks for highly profitable multi-national corporations. And journalist who insist upon adopting Republican frames about public health insurance “bankrupting the country” could make a practice of always pointing out that it’s actually cheaper than private insurance-based health care, which is actually bankrupting the country, one consumer at a time.

  • http://jwpulliam.wordpress.com jwpulliam

    Excellent!!! I enjoyed your thoughts and keep them coming.

  • chicagoindependant

    I’m sorry I couldn’t get past this

    “Third, costs for Medicare and Medicaid are increasing at rates that will eventually bankrupt the country. Democrats in Congress — and Obama in the White House — have not taken any steps to accept this reality and change it fundamentally. Ryan has.”

    Why are Medicare and Medicaid increasing? Because health care costs are increasing. What does Ryan’s budget do about health care costs. NOTHING. It just moves those costs onto the backs of the poor and the middle aged.

    Also to answer your second misnomer – health care reform. That’s what Obama did about health care costs. And before anyone starts on “do you really expect the ACA to implement cuts” if you don’t count the cuts in ACA, you can’t count the cuts in Ryan’s plan as it holds the same assumptions (future congresses would say no to some constituents on funding increases).

  • http://jwpulliam.wordpress.com jwpulliam

    Here is another reason not to turn our children’s future health care over to the tender mercy’s of our altruistic buddies in the insurance industry. This girl was 17 years old and I saw a picture of her and she was beautiful. This is from the LA Times as I recall!!
    Score another one for big insurance!!!!
    “CIGNA denied a girl’s liver transplant, saying it was “experimental,” then changed it’s mind after 150 family, friends, and nurses association members protested outside CIGNA headquarters. But the reversal was too late, Natalee Sarkisian, 17, died last night at UCLA medical center. The insurance company had initially agreed to pay for the liver transplant, but then after Natalee developed a lung infection, then got a bone marrow transplant from her brother, delayed, and then denied coverage, the family says. She was in a vegetative state, battling leukemia. In an email sent out shortly before Natalee died, the insurance company wrote, ” … CIGNA HealthCare has decided to make an exception in this rare and unusual case and we will provide coverage should she proceed with the requested liver transplant.” Score another one for the bean counters.”
    Are these the type of people you want making medical decisions for your children’s retirement?

  • shepherdwong

    That is exactly correct. And only the use of the word “fundamentally,” prevented an outright lie from the author herself. As she well knows only “Democrats in Congress — and Obama in the White House — have…taken any steps to accept this reality,” and reduce health care costs using the ACA and changes to Medicare. If the we’re going to do something about the actual problem – outrageous and exploding average healthcare cost in the US, it’s going to be done though Medicare, as it has been all along, however marginal.
    .
    Making Medicare a private insurance program practically guarantees that nothing will be done about healthcare cost inflation.

  • shepherdwong

    And the reason for that, and the fact that the Very Serious Villagers seldom if ever even mention the actual problem, is obvious. To seriously attack healthcare costs is to attack the profits of a truly frightening collection very powerful Beltway interests from Big Pharma and the insurance industry to doctors and hospital groups. Much easier to pretend not to notice while “conservatives” kick Grandma to the curb.

  • jsamans

    Let’s recap.

    The so-called “ObamaCare” approach to health insurance, in which people shop on a regulated exchange for plans that cover specific things and receive government subsidies according to need, is a disaster that’s going to bankrupt our country and won’t control healthcare costs.

    In other news, to reform Medicare, Paul Ryan would replace the current system with one in which people shop on a regulated exchange for plans that cover specific things and receive government subsidies according to need, because it we don’t do that, we’re going to bankrupt our country and won’t be able to control healthcare costs.

    Makes sense, right?

  • shepherdwong

    Hey, if we splice together Kate and Krugman we get the truth!

    …the introduction of the plan means Ryan’s brand of long-term deficit reduction is now at the front of the Republican agenda…not the budget of a deficit hawk…the budget of a deficit exploiter, someone who is trying to use fears of red ink to push through a political agenda that includes major losses of revenue.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/where-the-spending-cuts-go/

  • http://jwpulliam.wordpress.com jwpulliam

    You hit the nail on the head. Mr. Ryan seems to be prepping for his next job as a K-street shill. After all, we got a lobbyist retread as our new senator here in Indiana. Its true he had to buy property back home in Indianapolis to meet the residency requirements, but Mitch needed another member for the herd.

  • http://chiz3914.wordpress.com chiz3914

    So seniors get a voucher for what? 60% of what it’ll cost for private, ripoff health insurance. So Grandma, who gets social security ahd a little pension and who’ll be barely getting by, is going to give up eating and payin the phone and electric bill so she can put up the rest of the cash for insurance. I can just see the long line of seniors at emergency rooms to get treated, because they couldn’t/didn’t get the insurance, which will end up getting paid for by the gov’t anyway and cost even more money.

  • 53_3

    I’m working on my second half-million dollars in medical bills. Does this mean that under the Ryan plan, I’ll have to pony up $200,000?
    .
    And, if so, does anyone have a Golden Goose? I’ll take one used, whatever…

  • http://sexsceneserotica.wordpress.com —————–

    Does anyone actually know what the hell they’re doing who works for the government? I mean, here’s the deal:

    Either people pay their fair share of taxes proportional to their income or else.

    As it stands:

    Most of the people in this country are screwed for the future near and far. That is because people who make disgusting amounts of money every year have managed to gut the government. Since they have been doing this for a prolonged period of time, and people are getting older and some are disabled, if it ain’t there (which it ain’t now, then, and beyond) they will die or become homeless.

    Stop lying to us.

    This country will go down in history for ignoring the poor, disabled, and elderly consistently in the way they ruined Native Americans.

    Shame on us.

  • rover27

    The author of this article is either a republican or a shill for the health insurance industry/big pharma.

  • sphericalnw

    This is absurd– why is everyone in the media obsessed with calling Paul Ryan brave and serious? This is one of the most cowardly and unserious budget proposals to ever come out of D.C.

    For starters, it doesn’t balance the budget. The entire plan is nothing but a series of magic asterisks. It predicts a immediate and unprovoked drop in the unemployment rate to a final and absurd rate of 2.8%. It shows federal government spending other than Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare plummeting from 12.0% of GDP to 3.5% of GDP– that’s less than we currently spend on just the military– with no explanation of where those cuts come from.

    And it’s clear that Paul Ryan knows it’s a fantasy. There’s simply no reason to base a plan on numbers from a group as reliably partisan as the Heritage Foundation unless you know the plan wouldn’t pass muster with real numbers. And the limited analysis the CBO has already done shows that. If anything, a rational analysis would indicate that the Paul Ryan plan will actually worsen our budgetary situation.

    But of course, that’s only the unserious part. There’s also the cowardly part. The plan calls for huge tax breaks for the top income bracket while simultaneously gutting Medicare and Obamacare. Of course, since those 55 and over vote at high rates, the plan bravely buys them off by letting them keep their Medicare.

    So you tell me, how is a plan that doesn’t fix our budget, heaps more money on the rich, throws the elderly under the bus, and reprises every last anti-welfare conservative shibboleth supposed to be considered brave and serious?

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