Budget Tea Leaves: Why the Government Won’t Shut Down This Week

Updated

The stopgap measure currently funding the federal government runs out at midnight on Friday and new rules in Congress stipulate that legislation needs to be posted publicly at least 72 hours before a vote, meaning the deadline for a 2011 budget deal falls on Wednesday. Democrats claim both sides have agreed to a number–  $33 billion in cuts over the remainder of the fiscal year — but the real sticking point will be what programs get cut and which ideologically charged policy “riders” are thrown in with the bill. That may seem like a lot to reconcile in the next few days, but negotiations are probably further along than either side is willing to admit.

Democrats and Republicans have an incentive to stick to their guns in public, in order to extract maximum concessions from their rivals and to signal to their bases, which will inevitably be disappointed by compromise, that they stuck it out until the end. ”Now, you’ve heard Democratic leaders claim an agreement has been reached on this issue,” House Speaker John Boehner said Saturday in the Republican weekly radio address. “But let me be clear: There is no agreement. Republicans continue to fight for the largest spending cuts possible to help end Washington’s job-crushing spending binge,” he said. In his first serious test as Speaker, Boehner is caught in a particularly difficult squeeze. If he gives away too much, the conservative wing of his caucus will revolt. If he gives away too little, a shutdown could have catastrophic consequences. So, is a shutdown imminent? Not likely. Here’s why:

The costs, political and otherwise, are just too great for both parties. The parallels are imperfect, but it’s been said many time that Republicans fear a backlash a la 1995. They’ve also spent the last two years accusing President Obama of creating a toxic environment of uncertainty with his tax policy and new regulations. Allowing the federal government to shut its doors for an indefinite period, suspending contracts and benefits, would seriously undermine that argument. Plus, as  Boehner recently pointed out, shutdowns cost the government a lot of money: a shutdown in the name of fiscal austerity is a hard card to play. And there’s an economic consideration as well. If a shutdown were to derail the still-feeble recovery, hurting voters would take out their anger on incumbents from both parties in the next election. That fact is especially relevant to President Obama’s reelection campaign, which is set to officially get under way this week.

And for better or worse, Obama is now involved in the process. As part of a new communications strategy and out of an abundance of caution in handling matters as toxic as the budget, the President’s team has kept him far clear of recent negotiations. As the situation grew more dire, Obama went as far as to deputize Vice President Biden to deal with wrangling on the Hill.  But the White House released word on Saturday that the President had spoken with Speaker Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid directly by phone about the ongoing talks.

The description of those conversations were vague and hardly broke new ground. But the fact that the White House publicized the calls says something about the state of play. You might take it as an ominous sign that negotiations need an extra push from the commander in chief. But the opposite is closer to the truth. It’d be political malfeasance for Obama’s team to expose their boss to the blowback of a failed budget deal at the 11th hour. If anything, Obama’s involvement over the weekend indicates the White House is confident of success.

There are bellwethers on the Republican side as well. Democrats are trying mightily to drive a wedge between Boehner and the Tea Party-wing of his caucus. On Sunday, Reid told “Face the Nation” that “the Tea Party is dictating a lot what goes on in the Republican leadership in the House.” He knows all too well that Boehner will have to let them down to strike a deal. But the fact that there are far more grave budget issues looming may increase Boehner’s chances of weathering the current storm and boost the prospects for a compromise this week.

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan told “Fox News Sunday” that he plans to announce the Republicans’ 2012 budget proposal on Tuesday, and with it, his ambitious plan to pare back major government programs, including entitlements, to the tune of $4 trillion over the next decade. Ryan’s plan would also include a mandatory cap on discretionary spending tied to GDP, and tax breaks.  The timing of Tuesday’s announcement will provide conservatives, long fans of Ryan’s fiscal thinking, something new to sink their teeth into just at the moment when they’ll be asked to swallow compromise on 2011′s numbers. With the 2011 budget only a prelude to the battles over Ryan’s plan and the coming debt ceiling vote, Boehner may be able to get political cover to strike a deal.

The long-term budget picture is far from clear, but this week’s deadline doesn’t present an insurmountable obstacle as some from both parties have suggested. Amid the weekend jockeying, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham told “Face the Nation” that “I think we’ll find consensus.” Reid, also on the program, said, “I think we can work this out.” As Wednesday’s deadline draws near, expect the rift between Republicans and Democrats to temporarily disappear.

Update, 1:18 p.m.

For now, the strategically aloof President has thrown himself fully into budget negotiations. Following Obama’s publicized call to lawmakers over the weekend, Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters on Monday that Obama has invited congressional leadership from both parties to the White House on Tuesday to talk budgets. House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Harry Reid, as well as their respective Appropriations Committee chairs Rep. Hal Rogers and Sen. Daniel Inouye, have been asked to attend.  Again, itseems unlikely to me that the White House would expose Obama to this kind of political risk if they weren’t fairly confident a deal is at hand. But his involvement may not last long. As Congress takes up the 2012 budget, his recent approach suggests he’ll recede into the background again and wait for an opportune moment to weigh in.

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  • anon76

    Thanks for the info on the wrangling, Adam. One other thing I’ve been wondering about- what happens to the pay of gov’t workers in the event that a shutdown does occur?

  • Paul-no not that one

    I found this anon-
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    “Historically, government employees have received back pay after a shutdown, Bowman explains. During the Clinton years, separate legislation was passed to make sure workers got their back pay. However, he says there’s no guarantee that would happen again.
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    “More reasonable people were in charge in those days,” Bowman recalls. “The ideology was not as severe.”
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    http://www.inthesetimes.com/working/entry/7000/how_a_government_shutdown_would_affect_federal_workers_and_everyone_else/

  • artraveler

    If they shut it down then really do it including the Treasury Department computer that cuts or transfers the money for Social Security and Medicare, the FAA, border customs, AMTRAK, TSA. Stop all planes, trains, but leave the buses so Congress can get home. Stop all services in both Houses of Congress including that little shuttle train, cleaning for those living in their offices, the gyms, and their special cafeterias. If you are going to do it, Congress should INSIST that they not get any services like having their credit cards cancelled. Isn’t it time that TVA shutdown all their power transmission and check their equipment?

    If Ryan’s Medicare and Medicaid proposal doesn’t slap the red states enough, cutting off that government support that gives them more dollars then they pay in taxes needs to stop. Put TVA on the market so they can pay non-socialized rates. Ryan’s proposal’s will kill medical care in most rural areas of the country where hospitals are already having to cut services and this may be the nail in their coffin so we will get the Republican death panels and they will be called the Republican Koch Tea Partyers.

  • gysgt213

    And these are government workers. The source of all current problems.

  • http://twitter.com/adamsorensen Adam Sorensen

    In general, “non-essential” workers are furloughed, meaning they get sent home and paid retroactively once the shutdown is over and “essential” workers, like members of the armed services, continue as normal. Members of Congress, naturally, have deemed themselves “essential.”

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Explain again how this is going to create jobs………

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  • hippooath

    Shut down government resonates with people who think the government is at fault for everything; until the very government services they depend on stops working.
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    Let them do it; maybe we do need a reminder now and then that a functioning government is essential for a function country and the ailment isn’t government workers; it’s what money does to our political system.

  • freeinpa

    “In general, “non-essential” workers are furloughed”
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    How can this be? According to Democrats in Congress and liberals here, every last one of these workers are absolutely vital.

    Are you implying there is bloat in the federal government and we can further cut the deficit?

  • freeinpa

    You still have the delusion that the government paying out entitlements increasing the deficit and debt will actually create jobs.

    Liberals believe these Keynesian policies begins in enables their re-distributionist ambitions.

  • freeinpa

    “Shut down government resonates with people who think the government is at fault for everything”
    .
    Another tired factually wrong fact from the left ridiculous playbook. The cheerleaders for a shutdown now are Smuck Schumer. Dingy Harry, And Psycho Dean. And they believe the government cures everything from employment to plantars warts.

  • sacredh

    freeinpa, non-essential doesn’t mean what you think it means. In the case of Social Security you might have only guards protecting the physical security of the building to make sure nobody breaks in show up. The people processing claims, taking calls to answer questions or those cutting checks would be furloughed. In the case of a locks and dam on the Mississippi, only a minimum staff required to actually operate the lock gates to let barge traffic through would show up. The mechanics that do non-emergency repairs, maintenance and greasing of equipment wouldn’t go to work. The office personnel that order the supplies, replacement parts, do payroll and oversee contractors would stay home. Essential personnel means that only the absolute minimum required to continue the safe operation of the facility on a temporary basis would work. Those needed to provide for the long-term operation would not.

  • hippooath

    “Another tired factually wrong fact from the left ridiculous playbook. The cheerleaders for a shutdown now are Smuck Schumer. Dingy Harry, And Psycho Dean. And they believe the government cures everything from employment to plantars warts.”
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    You and your playbook – when you don’t know sh!t you usually trot out the tired playbook referense. I see that government shut down resonates with you. Good for you.

  • freeinpa

    “In the case of a locks and dam on the Mississippi, only a minimum staff required to actually operate the lock gates to let barge traffic through would show up.”
    .
    No as you demonstrate, it means exactly what I though tit means. There are an abundance of low level high paid folks that are “employed”. Private business runs efficiently with far less than the public sector.
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    “The office personnel that order the supplies, replacement parts, do payroll”
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    These are job, among others that can be consolidated and or eliminated with some efficiencies. No wonder we are in this employment situation:

    Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

  • anon76

    Speaking of delusions, freeinpa- how much are the Repulicans proposing in entitlement cuts?

  • sacredh

    “No as you demonstrate, it means exactly what I though tit means.”
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    You’re wrong and I believe you know you’re wrong. The people that work in the office spend all of their time working in the office because that is what they’re trained to do. It’s a full time job. The mechanics spend all of their time keeping the machinery running. The people are trained for their specific jobs and that is what they do. Would you want the person that runs the cash register at a car dealership working on the engine for your car? Would you want a plumber that is working on your pipes wiring your house?

  • sacredh

    You need to think this through. I’m busy at what my job is at work. If I’m doing somebody else’s job that means I’m not doing mine.

  • freeinpa

    “You’re wrong and I believe you know you’re wrong.The people that work in the office spend all of their time working in the office because that is what they’re trained to do. It’s a full time job”
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    “The lady doth protest too much, methinks” Spend all their time? That explains the porno cites, sports pools, web surfing, online shopping etc that has been uncovered in these full time government jobs. Or perhaps to take sick days to go protest a law that will bring common sense to their jobs.

    .
    “If I’m doing somebody else’s job that means I’m not doing mine”
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    It’s called multi-tasking a a surprisingly large number of small businesses and corporations are quite successful doing it.

  • freeinpa

    “You and your playbook – when you don’t know sh!t you usually trot out the tired playbook referense”
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    Especially when its true. Just ask Schmuck Schumer who was caught telling everyone that he was instructed what to say.

    Another pathetic defense you have launched to defend your pathetic positions

  • sacredh

    “The lady doth protest too much, methinks” Spend all their time? That explains the porno cites, sports pools, web surfing, online shopping etc that has been uncovered in these full time government jobs. Or perhaps to take sick days to go protest a law that will bring common sense to their jobs.”
    .
    Our computers are monitored at work. If we go to an unauthorized website it shows up in the district office. We have to personally logon to the computer at the beginning of each shift using our security cards and our personal ID. There are people on here that logon from work and post. That would be the private sector wasting private sector time. Very efficient.
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    As for taking sick days, every day we miss is kept track of. If there’s any pattern to missing days, you get a warning. Repeated violations mean that you have to have a doctor’s excuse for any subsequent days. More violations can result in suspensions and dismissal. I got an oral warning a few years ago because there was a pattern to my reporting off. I missed three days in one year. They were all daylight shift report-offs. That established a pattern. I had the flu twice that year but went to work on afternoon turn and midnight even though I was sick. I wouldn’t report off except if I was on daylight because I didn’t want to stick the aftershifts and cause overtime. The boss knew that but had to warn me because that was the rules.
    .
    I’m trained to operate the machinery. I’m trained to recognize any unusual sounds or equipment running slower than normal. We have machinery at work that costs millions of dollars. I know how to run them. I’m not trained to repair or maintain them. They send our mechanics to classes to learn how to repair and maintain them. They get paid more because they’re trained to maintain and repair them. They don’t want operators to take it upon themselves to try to fix something they aren’t trained to do. They aren’t going to train the operators unless we put in for a mechanics job, get the job and demonstrate that we’re worth all the added expense and time that training entails.
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    They also don’t want higher paid mechanics doing the work of lower paid operators because they want to see some cost-effectiveness in their investment.

  • hippooath

    “Especially when its true. Just ask Schmuck Schumer who was caught telling everyone that he was instructed what to say.

    Another pathetic defense you have launched to defend your pathetic positions”
    .
    What does that mean? I wonder. Somewhere in your head this actually meant something.
    .
    But whatever you need to tell yourself to hate me. I’m not you – what you wrote is a mirror image of your morning; loading yourself up with talking points and hate. Personally I have a cup of coffee.

  • freeinpa

    “But whatever you need to tell yourself to hate me”
    .
    And you need to believe it is hate and not sound reasoning that exposes your political philosophy for what it is —bankrupt.

    Let me guess after hate in the playbook, its racist, homphobe, islamophobe anything but reality.

  • freeinpa

    “As for taking sick days, every day we miss is kept track of. If there’s any pattern to missing days, you get a warning. Repeated violations mean that you have to have a doctor’s excuse for any subsequent days. More violations can result in suspensions and dismissal”
    .
    And the (weak) protests continue. You have a higher probability of being struck by lightening than being fired from a public sector job.

    And as you can see below security cards and all were worthless. It was bypassed.

    Being in the public sector is like being in Lake Wobegone, everyone is extraordinary. Less than 1 percent received a poor evaluation. Amazing and yet waste and fraud are rampant.
    .
    “None of the Securities and Exchange Commission employees caught using government computers to view pornography has been fired, the agency’s inspector general said Tuesday night.

    Of the 28 employees investigated for accessing inappropriate images and websites, eight resigned and six were suspended for periods lasting one to 14 days.The staffers accessed the websites and images by using Google and Yahoo search engines and by disabling Internet filters on the computers, Kotz said”

  • hippooath

    “And you need to believe it is hate and not sound reasoning that exposes your political philosophy for what it is —bankrupt.
    .
    Let me guess after hate in the playbook, its racist, homphobe, islamophobe anything but reality.
    .
    Wow
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    It’s my fault you hate me. Good one.

  • sacredh

    freeinpa, I’m sure there are people in the public sector that abuse their positions. I’m also sure there are people in the private sector that do the same thing. What does that have to do with those of us that don’t abuse our positions in either sector? Are the people that go to work and do their jobs guilty because of something someone else does? If I search out a case of a private sector employee that looked at porn during work hours mean that all private sector employees look at porn on the company dime?
    .
    “Of the 28 employees investigated for accessing inappropriate images and websites, eight resigned and six were suspended for periods lasting one to 14 days”
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    Doesn’t what you posted say that people did lose their jobs or served suspensions? They were probably given the choice of getting fired or resigning. Either way, those 8 employees paid for their actions with their jobs.

  • robbert5

    Sacredh,
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    I have to admire your patience and constraint, I guess it must be because it is the beginning of the week.
    .
    The way you are trying to educate Freep is admirable yet futile. You know he will come up with other non-related nonsense, he will state facts that aren’t or at least not backed up by any factual data and he will give you the run around.
    .
    Like with the manufacturing statement: manufacturing jobs have been off shored en masse in the last 3 decades which means that the number of manufacturing jobs has plummeted. In the meantime there was also a little incident called 9-11 which grew the security related government entities by huge numbers. Hence you have the perceived skewed results of manufacturing versus government jobs. But you won’t see anything remotely common sensical coming out of freeps thoughts coming other than government …….bad!

  • sacredh

    robbert5, back in the 70′s when I started working for the government this area was booming. The mills and power plants payed substantially more than government work. They couldn’t find enough people to take the jobs that were being vacated by retirees. I had an interview with the government and a mill in the same week. I chose the government because of long term job security. I turned down 25% more money to enter federal service. I’m not even counting OT that easily would have doubled my pay.
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    When I started out there were exactly two people at my installations with college degrees (I was one). Now, almost 2/3′s have college degrees. The good jobs just aren’t here anymore. The few remaining mills in this area still pay more than what I make, but they face an uncertain future. Two years ago my district had less than 30 job openings. We had over 2000 applicants to fill those jobs. Most went to veterans with college degrees.
    .
    I’m sure there is just as much hanky panky going on in the public sector as there is in the private sector. The few cases where people take advantage of their positions unfortunately gives people the impression that all public employees are lazy or corrupt. The vast majority of us know we have good jobs and wouldn’t do anything to jeopardize them. Nobody hears about us because we DON’T do anything that will reflect badly on ourselves or the government.
    .
    I know I’m not going to make the news because I only missed 8 days in 7 years or that I got a $400 award for helping save a woman’s life (which I did 2 years ago) or that I got a $250 award for quick thinking that stopped an oil leak before it got into the river and saved the government tens of thousands of dollars in cleanup costs. That stuff just isn’t sexy. Some bozo that surfed the internet during his lunch hour looking at tits is going to get the ink. That’s the society we live in.

  • fhmadvocat

    freeinpa,

    I know you are tired of the old Left playbook, but it is certainly better than the Tea Party toddler playbook, which is if you refuse to play by my made up rules than I won’t play and it is all YOUR fault.

    Last time I looked, the people arguing for the shut down were the small Tea Party crowd in Washington, D.C. and I didn’t see Smuck Schumer, Dingy Harry or Psycho Dean in the bunch.

  • fhmadvocat

    It is amazing to me how tyrannical and arrogant the Tea Party has become. They argue like they are only people who matter and if the Republican congress doesn’t do what they want, the whole country be damned.

    The Tea Party, which represents, and I am being generous, 30% of the electorate had decided what is best for the country and it does not care what the remaining 70% of the country thinks.

    The Tea Party has told the Republicans not to compromise and it has threatened to challenge any Republican who does. They don’t seem to realize that the art of politics is compromise and people who come to Washington can’t always get what they want.

    The Tea Party seems to think the Republicans owe them. That is ridiculous. They were not the only ones to vote and no Republican gained office on their votes alone but had to rely on the votes of moderate Republicans and independents. Look at how many of the Tea Party hand chosen lost, and their losses kept the Senate in Democratic hands. Had the Republicans nominated anyone else, they would have taken Delaware and defeated Harry Reid.

    Unfortunately, too many Republicans have taken the bait. Representative Eric Cantor who have had any problems raising spending during the Bush years suddenly discovered religion. He even sponsored the ridiculous bill which stated that if the Senate did not propose its budget, the House budget would become law. Does someone need to explain to Representive Cantor how a bill actually becomes a law? Either he is not smart or he is into theatrics. If we wanted theatrics, we would have elected an actor, like Cooter Jones, who ran against Cantor in a previous election and actually was an actor on the “Dukes of Hazzard”.

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