Arizona’s Flab Tax

Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, as part of a broader package to reduce costs of Medicaid in Arizona, is proposing an annual $50 charge for patients who are obese. The Wall Street Journal called this a “Fat Fee,” though it could go by many other names: Corpulence Cost, Plumpness Payment, Overweight Outlay, Stoutness Setback, Big-Bottom Dollar. Wordplay aside, if her proposal is approved by the state legislature and the federal government lodges no objections, it would mark the first time Medicaid patients have been financially punished for what the state deems unhealthy habits.

The charge would only kick in if the obese patient failed to follow a plan for slimming down. Similar fees would be levied on smokers who don’t quit and people with chronic diseases who fail to manage them as directed. There are also plans to freeze enrollment of certain classes, cut others and use some of the recaptured funds to revive coverage for organ transplants — a cut that got more than a little bad press when it went into effect last fall. All told, the plan is projected to fill in about $500 million of a $1.1 billion budget shortfall.

Some state legislators say that obesity can be out of a person’s control and shouldn’t be a reason to subject them to special costs. But this proposal is not unique. In 2008, Alabama — a state with consistently high obesity rates — announced that obese government employees would have to pay $25 a month for insurance, otherwise free, if they didn’t attempt to lose the weight. (There were already surcharges for those who smoked.)

Estimates for the costs of obesity in America range from about $150 billion to $270 billion a year. According to the latest CDC statistics, from 2009, 25.5% of Arizonans are obese, about 1.7 million people. (Not all of them are on Medicaid). Only Colorado and the District of Columbia come in under the 20% mark, and the highest rate is in Mississippi, with a population that is 34.4% obese.

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  • nflfoghorn

    We don’t WANT government handling our health care! Repeal and Replace!
    .
    Obamacare = bad
    Brewercare = good
    .
    Repusle and Deface – fixed.

  • nflfoghorn

    REPULSE and Deface

  • deconstructiva

    Katy, thanks for this update. Are the AZ officials NOT calling this an official tax? Of course, R are supposed to oppose taxes (if we’re to believe them, ahem, never mind stuff like gouging the poor and elderly in Michigan, etc.). Having so-called tax-hating R’s proposing new taxes / fees / surchages / etc. is kinda like reuniting / merging old music groups in odd combinations (referring to your NKOTBSB newsfeed post) like the Ray Conniff Sex Pistols. If we ever do the ultimate lifestyle tax per Monty Python it may indeed come from authoritarian R’s and NOT alleged big-govt. D’s. Thanks for your thoughts, Katy.
    .

    .
    Never mind how the IRS and state agencies could ever enforce and collect this tax. Imagine the possibilities. (this clip, if it embeds, has the added mildly-NSFW animation bonus)

  • afguy

    Estimates for the costs of obesity in America range from about $150 billion to $270 billion a year.
    .
    Estimated costs due to obesity “between the ears” of TP legislators both at the state and national levels are incalculable at present but forecast to rise rapidly in any case.

  • sacredh

    When will the republicans quit telling people what they can eat, what they can drink, how much they should weigh and trying to impose their will on other American citizens? Now let’s see them put a tax on people that smoke and drink booze.

  • robbert5

    I am wondering when the RW PA twins will rise up and declare a national emergency of government overreach from those repugnant liberals.

    ooooppppssss this is from the repubs, my bad! Guess they will stay silent on this one.

    On a serious note, punishing ppl seldomly works, put incentives in place and then you may change some lifestyles…. Furthermore, the ppl on medicaid are in a position where they more than likely need to buy “cheap” way overprocessed food that is fattening, because they somehow have to make ends meet. The goal in itself, trying to get ppl to stay healthier however is an admirable one although I doubt that that is what really lies at the core of this piece of legislation.

  • centfan

    $500,000,000 in $50 annual fees?? They figure there are 10 million people qualified for Medicaid in Arizona that our mistreating their bodies beyond the standards set by the Republican lawmakers?
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    If organ transplants are too expensive why don’t they just rip them out of the people abusing theirs. Organs gots rights. Let’s include clothing too. I think spandex pants should be allowed to sue their fat owners in civil court.
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    Please tell me when I’ve gone too far with this and I become a libertard… or is that a republidiot now…

  • centfan

    …are mistreating… I knew that

  • fhmadvocat

    Yes, ladies and gentlemen!

    This Fat Tax has been brought to you by the same Republican Governor who has actually implemented “death panels” by refusing to pay for life-saving transplants! Already one person has died!

    Yes, Sarah Palin was right! Obamacare did usher in Death Panels. However, they don’t exist anywhere other than in the very Republican and Conservative state of Arizona.

  • deconstructiva

    If Katy posts again on this topic or goes dead-tree, or if other teammates chime in (which happens now and then), we need more wordplay headlines to help torpedo this intrusive initiative:
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    “Waist Not, Want Not? Arizona’s ‘Ass Tax’”
    “When Jan Brewer Tells You to Blow it Out Your Ass, She Means It”
    “Jan Brewer Weighs in on Fees Out the Ass, Literally”
    “Death Panels? So ’09. Arizona’s R’s Want Flesh Panels” by KS.
    (h/t to fhmadvocat for death panel idea) Hope these help, Katy.

  • chupkar

    Again the RWN are incredibly silent. Freep? Rusty?

    *crickets*

  • allthingsinaname

    It is ok we don’t like fat people.

  • nflfoghorn

    Where’s (Gr)assley on this? And what’re you gonna do to make Grandma lose weight?? :)

  • deconstructiva

    Where’s the small-c stay-out-of our-lives Goldwater conservatism R’s once embraced? I think the R’s invented “Concept of the Corpulation.”
    (definitely a naughty double entendre so I doubt the High Sheriffs will let Katy, Scherer, or Pickert use THAT for a headline, sigh, but I’ll bet they’ll enjoy the hidden third meaning from biz)

  • nflfoghorn

    We could start with the uterus…women don’t own ‘em.

  • sacredh

    Speak for yourself. I like Reubenesque women. And not just because they sound like my favorite sandwich.

  • m0mentom0ri

    “Again the RWN are incredibly silent. Freep? Rusty?”
    .
    The BirtherinPA twins are too busy going through the Kenyan hospital archives with TrumpinPA looking for the anti-Christ’s real birth certificate. Maybe they’ll check in later, after they’ve found it.

  • afguy

    You’re talking Botticelli, aren’t you sacred?
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    Round and plump, but with curves…
    .
    BTW, how’s the “two wives in the SAME house” thing working out for you?

  • allthingsinaname

    Of course you do all Libtards do.

  • allthingsinaname

    Obamacare encourages you to be fat.

  • nflfoghorn

    Yeh, Sacred, I noticed that a few posts back…how could you let her move in? Ain’t you the head of the house?? :)

  • sacredh

    Ssssshhhh….it’s April Fool’s Day and I’m just having a little fun.

  • afguy

    Ok, then I got another one of those for you.
    .
    Heard on the local radio this morning that Larry Flynt had bought one of the local hotel properties to build a resort and marina on it. Complete with adult clubs and Hustler gift shop, employing 500+ people.
    .
    This is right in the middle of the Bible Belt. The radio announcers were quite believable. They even got a couple of call-ins asking, basically, “WTF??!!??”.
    .
    My wife had to remind me what the day was.

  • hippooath

    I love monty python…so ahead of their times. I’m sure they reason why they won’t ever come back together is because they can’t possibly top the tea party.

  • sacredh

    afguy, I pulled one this morning that was so gross that I decided last night that I wouldn’t do it unless my wife OK’d it. It had the potential of a “Mad for weeks and in the doghouse” number. It took me 20 minutes to get the go-ahead and I think the only reason she did it was because she knows how much I enjoy AFD.

  • sacredh

    “I’m sure they reason why they won’t ever come back together is because they can’t possibly top the tea party.”
    .
    That and because a couple of them are dead. That’s all that’s keeping the Beatles from getting back together too.

  • hippooath

    “That and because a couple of them are dead. That’s all that’s keeping the Beatles from getting back together too.”
    .
    Work with me here…I know some of them are dead, but it wouldn’t stop the rest from coming back together. In fact having a dead paper cut out of one of the members would be very monty python. But again – in this crazy world it’s so hard to break out with obvious irony when so many would just see it as ‘reality’.

  • chupkar

    I prefer to think of it as “avoir du pois”:

  • chupkar

    “I long to be a prima donna, donna, donna
    I long to shine upon the stage
    With my avoirdupois
    And my tra la la la la
    I would be the chief sensation of the age”

  • sacredh

    hippooath, it might even work better because they’re dead. Every once in a while a voice from behind the cut-out could say “But I’m not dead” like in Holy Grail. Reality is vastly over-rated.

  • Art Pepper

    The charge would only kick in if the obese patient failed to follow a plan for slimming down.

    “What she is telling us is she cannot trust parents to make decisions for their own children, for their own families in what we should eat. And I know I’m going to be again criticized for bringing this up, but instead of a government thinking that they need to take over and make decisions for us according to some politician or politician’s wife priorities, just leave us alone, get off our back[...].”

    Similar fees would be levied on smokers who don’t quit.

    “Tobacco is a legal product in America. The American people have a right to decide for themselves whether they want to partake or not.”

  • freeinpa

    “*crickets*”
    .
    Hearing voices again? Or the psychotic ramblings of MoronMom
    .
    It seems like a convoluted way to bridge a budget gap but I guess after the states have been fighting for years to find novel ways to pay for soaring federally mandated Medicare spending you run out of reasonable ways to do it.

  • freeinpa

    “Round and plump”
    .
    Yeah like the Democratic pin-up women: Barb Mikulski, Kagan, Jannet Reno, Debbie Stabenow. Rosie O’Donnell

  • afguy

    Hey, at least we don’t order OUR women online from “Inflate-a-Date”, freep..

  • afguy

    Do you pay the extra cost to make sure the ones you order are “anatomically correct” or do you just pocket the rest and go with the basic “soft vinyl” model.
    .
    Bet the “friction burns” are a b!tch for you, aren’t they, free? What’s the healing time needed?

  • shepherdwong

    It is ok we don’t like fat people.
    .
    No, Republicans hate poor people. Obviously there are far more obese people in Medicare in Arizona than Medicaid but Republicans figure that p!ssing on the poor doesn’t hurt them at the polls.

  • fhmadvocat

    This posting has been up for four hours and all we can get from our Conservative friends is a limp excuse from freeinpa and an insult involving Democratic women.

    Granted free, few Democratic women are as hot as Carabou Barbie, so you got one there.

    However, you lame excuse of a posting was too funny. How many times have Conservatives harped on Liberal city counsel members for trying to control what people eat, and the only person who has actually implemented something of that nature is a Republican governor!

    Come on free! If a Democrat has done the same thing, you would be harping and screaming about some type of socialist takeover!

    However, a Republican does it, and your sorry excuse is, “Well they got to raise the money somehow.” Well, Duh, ain’t that a bit obvious!

    And the Wall Street Journal calls it a “Fee”. It is a Tax! a Tax! a Tax!

    I know Republicans get hives at the thought of a tax raise, but Orwellian tricks doesn’t change the fact that it is a tax!

    At least, free, you were brave enough to show your face. Where is Rusty and rdw56? Rusty, I know you are out there because you have posted within the last hour!

    Evidently they can dish it out, but they can’t take it!

  • sacredh

    Just in case the “robust” people of Arizona haven’t thought of it…don’t give any of your business to any establishment that is owned by a republican or that has donated money to a republican candidate. They don’t understand subtle messages. Cash…they understand.

  • apr2563

    Thanks decon..NOT POO POOS!

  • apr2563

    freeper: How about those svelte guys Christie, Huckabee, Gingrich, Barbour, LePage, Trump.
    Who I really worry about is Katherine Jean Lopez, the middle aged virgin editor of National Review.

  • freeinpa

    “Hey, at least we don’t order OUR women online from “Inflate-a-Date”

    .
    Exactly where DO you order your women from? or is it livestock? Female Democrats are hard to distinguish between the 2?

  • freeinpa

    “However, you lame excuse of a posting was too funny. How many times have Conservatives harped on Liberal city counsel members for trying to control what people eat
    .

    I din’t say I was for the tax. I guess she could have cut more union public union benefits. The point which you avoid, miss, ignore, fail to understand (or all of them) is that states have their backs to wall with mandated spending from the federal government. And we all know who loves that—liberals.

  • http://straycat00.wordpress.com straycat00

    That Ann Coulter’s a real conservative hottie. We should tax all women for not looking more like her.

  • sacredh

    If Ann got a perm we could use her as a pipe cleaner.

  • sacredh

    From Roxy Music’s 2nd album, For Your Pleasure
    .
    In Every Dream Home A Heartache
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    “I blew up your body
    but you blew my mind”

  • apr2563


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    Rush Limbaugh flopping his flab while mocking Michael J. Fox. He flops a lot. He must be proud of those man boobs.
    .
    He may want to avoid Arizona.

  • apr2563

    Her adams apple might get in the way.

  • http://jander36.wordpress.com jander36

    I thought being on medicaid meant you needed financial help. So where do you get the money for all that food and cigrettes?
    If you are getting help from the government then they have every right to impose rules. I smoke and I say go for it……I wish all states would do this.

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