Bachmann 2012: Good for the Media, Bad for the GOP

By Mike Murphy

Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann is now threatening us with the idea of exploring a Presidential race, it was announced today. Well first, enough with the exploratory committees. They are a tired gimmick in Presidential races. Just admit you are running, or don’t run. As per a Michele Bachmann candidacy, this is good news for the media and bad news for the GOP. The press will be delighted, with a new gaff-prone carnival candidacy to snicker at. It is pure gold for the writers’ room at Saturday Night Live.

But for the Republican party? A headache, pure and simple. President Obama can be defeated in 2012, but it will not be easy and the election will not in any way be about the tiny sliver of voters that a Bachmann for President campaign would appeal to. Instead, the vital swing voters who will decide the 2012 election will look at Michele Bachmann on the campaign trail and howl like villagers getting their first torch-lit glimpse of Frankenstein’s monster. They will stampede quickly in the opposite direction, away from the GOP.

As I tweeted a few weeks ago, Michele Bachmann makes Sarah Palin look like Count Metternich. Luckily the Bachmann effect will be relatively small. Other more serious candidates will dominate the Republican primary process. But her candidacy will not be helpful to the larger Republican or conservative cause. I know it is a free country, Rep. Bachmann can certainly run for President if she wants to. But she is a sure-fire loser, both in the GOP nomination race and — should fearsome Martians invade the Earth and demand at ray-gun point that she be the Republican nominee — in a general election.

My guess is that she’ll get some real attention and potential a decent number of voters in the Iowa caucus, raise enough money through the mail and on the internet to have a basic campaign operation and steal some attention from the more serious candidates at the debates. The White House political staff will enjoy a few big belly laughs. That is about it. Her campaign, like Trump’s, is about ego and nothing else. There is no patriotism, of the Tea Party variety or any other, in that. There was a time in the Republican Party, before the chaos of the Internet, cable TV howlers and all the rest of the modern campaign circus when pragmatic political bosses would labor silently and effectively to prevent train wreck candidacies like Michele Bachmann from sprouting up and distracting attention from the very serious business of nominating the party’s Presidential candidate. No more, alas.

Murphy is a Republican political consultant.

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  • nflfoghorn

    Will she look at her audience in profile?

  • m0mentom0ri

    “The press will be delighted, with a new gaff-prone carnival candidacy to snicker at.”
    .
    This is a substantial piece of what’s wrong with the media.

  • lreed580

    Well, the Republicans can take comfort in all the up and coming Republican governors who are waiting in the wings for 2016…………unfortunately, Kasich, Walker, Snyder…their poll numbers are upside down after only 3 months in office. Christie has been admonished by the court for his handling of education funds and Scott in Florida……his policies are certainly controversial.

    Watching Colby King on Inside Washington tweak Charles Krauthammer over the GOP candidates….Palin, Bachmann, to name a few is certainly worth watching.

  • fhmadvocat

    I hope Representative Bachmann runs. I talked to my best friend back in Minnesota and I asked him whom he wanted to see run for President. He told me his two favorite candidates were Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann

    Representative Bachmann will bring such a fresh perspective to the campaign. Here is someone who really cares about our Constitution and wll restore our country to the principles of our founding fathers. Her leadership of the Tea Party Caucus in the House of Representatives and her years in the federal legislature demonstrates she is ready to lead our country.

    It is time to take our country back for the free spending Liberals who are spending our country into bankruptcy. It is time we had a President who understood the principals of federalism and the need for a smaller government.

    Our country certainly needs the leadership of Michele Bachmann.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “There was a time in the Republican Party, before the chaos of the Internet, cable TV howlers and all the rest of the modern campaign circus when pragmatic political bosses would labor silently and effectively to prevent train wreck candidacies like Michele Bachmann from sprouting up and distracting attention from the very serious business of nominating the party’s Presidential candidate. No more, alas.”
    .
    Stupid people and their (small d) democracy!

  • Ivy_B

    I thought there was some legal reason for the exploratory committee silliness. If you actually declare, don’t you then have to do some specific things? Or something relating to fundraising?

    Can someone clarify or have I just been reading too much of the swamp lichen?

  • shepherdwong

    There is no patriotism, of the Tea Party variety or any other…
    .
    Guess what, Mike. Right-wing-authoritarian-following, partisan hatred of Democrats and racism isn’t “patriotism”. Neither is selling our government to the highest corporate bidder. There is no patriotism in the Republican Party or the “conservative cause,” of any variety that meets the definition.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    “the vital swing voters who will decide the 2012 election will look at Michele Bachmann on the campaign trail and howl like villagers ”
    -
    Well, maybe. But remember, “true, honest-to-God independents are about 10% of the American population.” See: http://www.themonkeycage.org/2010/01/argh_argh_argh_argh_argh.html

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Seriously.
    -
    “Back then, we’d have surrogates and others at arm’s length go out and say all that crazy sh!t that all our GOP voters believe– you know, that evolution isn’t real, that reducing revenue balances the budget, that sex before marriage is Satan’s doing, etc. But now all our candidates are as crazy as all the stuff we’ve been saying all this time! It’s so inconvenient!”

  • bobell

    Clever parody, advocat. It looks so natural.
    .
    I give Rep. Bachmann props for wanting to do what’s best for the country. And in one sense she’s doing just that — by serving as a horrible example. She makes Palin look good.
    .
    If ever good intentions were paving a road to He!! …

  • hippooath

    Please run; I’m scared right now that they will. Win the primary please.
    .
    Instead of ‘it’s the economy stupid’ the new slogan will be, it’s the stupid stupid.

  • shepherdwong

    …pragmatic political bosses would labor silently and effectively to prevent train wreck candidacies like Michele Bachmann…
    .
    Should we thank them now for giving us eight years of the sociopathic ignoramus George W. Bush?

  • http://shortplaysaboutrealpeople.wordpress.com Michael Maiello

    “There was a time in the Republican Party, before the chaos of the Internet, cable TV howlers and all the rest of the modern campaign circus when pragmatic political bosses would labor silently and effectively to prevent train wreck candidacies like Michele Bachmann from sprouting up and distracting attention from the very serious business of nominating the party’s Presidential candidate.”

    It’s cute out Murphy portrays this as something that somehow happened to the Republican party and not as something the Republican party flat out engineered, starting with the anti-Clinton hysteria of the 1990s.

    Also cute how Time decided to print this piece uncritically. Nice job, Scoop.

  • charlieromeobravo

    That woman is a loon. She and Palin seem to been in the middle of a contest to see who can make the least factual statements and still get attention from the media. I’m a Democrat and even I hope that she doesn’t run. It’s attention starved wingnuts like her and Palin and the previously mainstream candidates that try to emulate them to curry favor with their wingnut supporters that are probably the biggest problem with politics in this country right now. I don’t want Bachmann to run because I think she’d win. That wouldn’t happen because she wouldn’t be taken seriously by the wider public. I don’t want her to run because I want to be able to choose between some sensible, reasonable adults for President in the next election. I want to be genuinely torn because the candidates are all high quality, smart people with good ideas each.
    .
    But, in a climate where the Palins of the world prompt days of pundit discussion with a tweet and candidates like Gingrich can literally be calling for Libya bombings on Monday and castigating the president for bombing Libya on Friday I’m not hopeful I’ll get my wish.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Shep, Murphy at least can’t take the blame for W.
    .
    In 2000 he was working for the train wreck Rick Lazio.
    .
    http://www.observer.com/node/43049#

  • newfreedomblog

    “There was a time in the Republican Party, before the chaos of the Internet, cable TV howlers and all the rest of the modern campaign circus when pragmatic political bosses would labor silently and effectively to prevent train wreck candidacies like Michele Bachmann from sprouting up and distracting attention from the very serious business of nominating the party’s Presidential candidate. No more, alas.”

    .
    Gee let’s see. What have those “party bosses” gotten us so far?
    .
    George Bush II? (waiting for all the libtards to descend on this one).
    .
    Richard Nixon?
    .
    Arlen Specter?
    .
    Oh I know, Dan Quayle….THAT’s the one!!
    .
    Yea, keep on printing Mr Murphy’s garbage, perhaps he will hit upon a good idea one of these days.

  • shepherdwong

    In 2000 he was working for the train wreck Rick Lazio.
    .
    Well, to be fair and accurate, Bush lost that one as well. Good thing those “pragmatic political bosses” had a plan B.

  • hippooath

    “Richard Nixon?
    .
    Arlen Specter?
    .
    Oh I know, Dan Quayle….THAT’s the one!!”
    .
    At least those guys didn’t work activly to break the country – I would imagine with all their flaws they care about country first as suppose to tribe first. The current crop of GOP are just a bunch of rich lobbyists hired to destroy what’s left of what makes America great so we can be more like China.

  • Matt

    Republicans have a pathetic 2012 field that includes enough kooks like Bachmann and Palin to scare off ordinary voters while also failing to provide anyone that really excites the entire base of the GOP. It;s a disaster…
    http://www.sunstateactivist.org

  • Paul-no not that one

    Ivy-they are for spending money.
    .
    “technically it creates a legal shell for a candidate who expects to spend more than $5,000 while contemplating an actual run.”
    .
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploratory_committee
    .
    And of course to get attention but they DO have a legal purpose.

  • hippooath

    OT: So NATO have agreed to take over the responsibility of the rest of the actions against Libya – which doesn’t mean that we’re off the hook – but isn’t it time for Palin, Michele and the entire rightie machine to start complaining about how some prissy European countries are going to run the show and not the mighty American Military?
    .
    While maintaining that Obama didn’t run into Libya soon enough and complaining that we’re there without a way out and that he didn’t have congress declare war or something. In other words – we should lead, not be there, but should have bombed sooner and without asking UN if it was okay, but that we shouldn’t do it since congress didn’t declare war. The fact that we should be there but are just means that we’re now a bunch of liberal cut and runners since for some reason Europeans get to deal with some of the pain (like they have so far).
    .
    It’s all very confusing when you try to follow the rightie squirrel.

  • newfreedomblog

    “The current crop of GOP are just a bunch of rich lobbyists hired to destroy what’s left of what makes America great so we can be more like China.”

    .
    When did Obama become a “Gop” operative?

  • Ivy_B

    Thanks, Paul. My brain must be tired from spending too much energy avoiding doing my taxes! I should have looked it up first.
    .
    I just remembered reading something the other day and went into zombie.

  • fhmadvocat

    Good catch, bobell,

    I wasn’t sure anyone would catch it.

    That said, on a personal level there are some wonderful things, Michele Bachmann has done. However, it is not the wonderful things she has done which gets the attention of the news media.

    She has stated some stupid things, bombastics for political theatre. Unfortunately that is what the media gives us, because that is what the American public wants.

    As the wonderful post about how bad humanity is for democracy, the truth is America wants drama, a good story, not the boring details.

    People like Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin get attention for being outrageous! And the fact is they both know this!

    For some reason, the majority of Americans like their politicians to be uneducated. This is especially true about Conservatives. (Sorry, bloggers, you may like your conservatives to be intelligent, but you are in the minority of conservatives in this country). Every candidate has to point out how he is just like the rest of us, as if it is necessary to understand our problems.

    Take George W. He liked to point out he grew up in Texas and even had a southern twang. Such nonsense! His family was rich, he spent his youth in boarding schools, attended Yale and got his MBA from Harvard! Yet he tried to make himself seem like he was just one of the boys!

    Clinton was a master of dumbing himself down. Here is a guy whose intelligence makes Obama’s look piecemeal, yet Clinton was “Bubba”!

    Even the great Ronald Reagan was much smarter than people, especially Liberals gave him credit for.

    I want my president to be smarter than I am. I don’t want a president as stupid as I am. However, most Americans don’t seem to feel the same way.

  • Ivy_B

    And when I clicked your link, I realized what I was remembering – the advantage is that you don’t have to reveal the source of any money you raise. So if you decide not to run, no one need know.

  • Paul-no not that one

    No problem Ivy.
    .
    I needed to be clear myself so it was a good excuse to look it up.
    .
    “My brain must be tired from spending too much energy avoiding doing my taxes!”
    .
    Ha- I left work early last Friday to do mine. I’ll do the same tomorrow.

  • hippooath

    “When did Obama become a “Gop” operative?”
    .
    Obama alone – you gotta be kidding me.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Very good point about disclosure. Or lack thereof.
    .
    They are governed by limits, but enough 2500s and 5000s and it adds up.

  • certifiablylazy

    femdom is the resident LOLer

  • paulejb

    Michael Murphy is an establishment Republican whose primary concern is to go along to get along. Mike comes from the Democrat lite wing of the party and finds an iconoclast like Michelle to be threatening.
    .
    Too bad, Mike. This is a new day. You and your ilk had your time in the sun and the result was Barack Hussein Obama. Could you just quietly go away?

  • paulejb

    hippooath@14,
    .
    Since Barack Hussein Obama is currently engaged in dismantling the defense establishment of the USA, it is probably best that we leave this one to the Brits and the Frenchies.

  • freeinpa

    This is what passes for liberal intellect? Writing a story about a marginal candidate nearly 2 year away while virtual silence on an economy is again slipping into a recession, unemployment is high, foreign policy is in disarray, no budget, historic high national debt, sky-rocketing food and energy prices or even the incompetent hires that the WH is trying to push.

    Here is one of the latest. Have the American people not suffered enough at the hands of this woman?

    As Deputy Attorney General under Bill Clinton from 1994 to 1997 Jamie Gorelick wrote the memo that created the now infamous “Gorelick Wall.” A 1995 memo she wrote, stated explicitly that they would “go beyond what is legally required, [to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.” These rules were, shortly after their creation, expanded to regulate such communications in future counter-terrorism investigations. It set a procedure where various intelligence operations could not share information with each other.

    Jamie Gorelick’s wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation shortly before 9/11

    Gorelick was appointed the Vice Chairman of Fannie Mae and served in the role from 1997 to 2003. During that six-year period, she earned over $26 million. During her tenure, Fannie suffered a $10 billion accounting scandal, because of falsified transaction. These bogus tranactions helped FNMA hit earnings targets for 1998, which triggered bonuses for top executives including nearly $800,000 to Gorelick

    During Gorelick’s tenure Fannie Mae began to bundle subprime loans into securitized financial instruments.

    In 2001, Gorelick made the annoucement that Fannie was buying subprime loans encouraged by the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) and bundling them as securitized financial instruments. Securities made from bundles of guaranteed mortgages were to contribute to the economic collapse in 2008

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    “All that is necessary for the forces of evil to succeed/triumph is for enough good men to do nothing.”

    There was a time in the Republican Party, before the chaos of the Internet, cable TV howlers and all the rest of the modern campaign circus when pragmatic political bosses would labor silently and effectively to prevent train wreck candidacies like Michele Bachmann from sprouting up and distracting attention from the very serious business of nominating the party’s Presidential candidate. No more, alas.

    Ironic, considering that Murphy is part of that same supposedly ‘pragmatic’ crowd…No, those ‘pragmatic political bosses’ of the GOP are only too happy to ride the wave of attention and campaign donations that come in as whenever one of these nutters decides to crawl out from under their ideological rocks and let their freak flag fly in front of the media…who, in turn just luuuvs their train wrecks and takes them oh-so seriously.

    “You got to dance with who brung you.”

    Actually, no you don’t. If you’re a GOPer, you use them to drive you to the dance, pay for your entrance ticket, and then dump them for the more attractive partner that you have a chance of scoring with…which at this time means Mittens or TPaw or Huckleberry.

  • m0mentom0ri

    Yes, there are so many more important and pressing issues to deal with right now.
    .
    Like going after the vice-chair of Fannie Mae from 8 years ago for a memo she wrote 16 years ago.
    .
    Wait, what?

  • freeinpa

    “”All that is necessary for the forces of evil to succeed/triumph is for enough good men to do nothing.”

    .
    And we find out everyday which side of the good and evil coin the left n this country stands!

    Stephen Lerner, a former official with the powerful union SEIU, and he offers a disturbing glimpse into the hidden anti-business agenda of the Left — to intentionally harm our economy to build its own power base.

    Speaking at a university forum last week, Lerner spoke about his plans to destroy Wall Street and the markets and create all the necessary conditions to push us into a complete change of government and redistribution of wealth.
    It’s astonishing that there are individuals such as Mr. Lerner and others in the Big Labor and “community organizer” movement who find the business community and a robust economy as powers that must be ruined and brought down as the means to enact their warped view of government. We should automatically be suspicious of anyone who rejoices at economic downturns and wishes they would hurt more, as they obviously don’t have the well being of Americans at heart.

    It’s a good reminder next time SEIU or one of its ilk pushes “social change” that seems to put more change in their pocket but be bad for the rest of society.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/will_seiu_tape_its_next_corpor.html

  • shepherdwong

    Since Barack Hussein Obama is currently engaged in dismantling the defense establishment of the USA…
    .
    Stop lying, @sshole.

  • shepherdwong

    Not to mention, from an un-sourced “conservative” hit piece = zero credibility.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    Well, that’s a shocker…an off topic, delusional comment by freeper. And here I was just thinking that we haven’t had enough for one day…

  • shepherdwong

    He seems to think that, by linking to those who feed his delusions, it lends some credibility to them. To everyone else it’s just loons of a feather…

  • Paul-no not that one

    “americanthinker” I thought rightists couldn’t do irony.

  • http://redneckdemocrat.wordpress.com redneckdemocrat

    Run Baby Run, We want yo money bimbo!

  • http://nakedempire.wordpress.com nakedempire

    YA well, congressional staffers get $19 million dollar pay raise….what will she do about that?…………

    http://nakedempire2.blogspot.com/

  • http://delta1vee.wordpress.com delta1vee

    ‘”The press will be delighted, with a new gaff-prone carnival candidacy to snicker at.”
    .
    “This is a substantial piece of what’s wrong with the media.”‘

    So you are blaming the clowns that run on the media? It’s not the medias fault that she uses gross, outrageous hyperbole, and a flatly wrong understanding of history.

  • fhmadvocat

    “Could you just quietly go away?”

    Hey Paul,

    Isn’t that what Karl Rove and the Bush family said about Sarah Palin?

    I know you don’t care for “Democratic Lite”, but isn’t that what you are getting with Mitt Romney? (RomneyCare, anyone?)

    Michele Bachmann is very interesting, but presidential material? I think not.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    It’s not the medias fault that she uses gross, outrageous hyperbole, and a flatly wrong understanding of history.
    .
    However, it is the media’s fault for frequently failing to mention that she’s doing so, which lends her a degree of legitimacy that’s utterly undeserved.

  • fhmadvocat

    in response to freeinpa 17.1

    I am not that worried about the unions. Afterall, they couldn’t do the damage to the American economy that the Wall Street banks have done over the past three years.

    Of course, the Republicans in opposing financial reform, want to make sure the banks can sucker us again.

  • shepherdwong

    While we’re at it, we have this blog in the “liberal media” hosting a bunch of centrist writers, more often than not catapulting right-wing talking points. And, once more, we have a bona fide “conservative” political operative. Any chance we’ll ever hear a real liberal voice in the Swamp or do you guys plan to keep sponging off the unpaid commentariate?

  • freeinpa

    Nothing brings out the barbs and lunacy of the left than having them get caught once again plotting hate against America and its people. No denials just obfuscations and mis-direction.

    .
    “an off topic, delusional comment by freeper.

    I didn’t know showing how bankrupt the left is as they hypocritically degrade the right is ever off topic. I know you want it to be. But then you can’t defend your pathetic beliefs on its merits (well there aren’t any) can you?

    .
    “He seems to think that, by linking to those who feed his delusions, it lends some credibility to them”
    .
    Having a transcript and video of it is certainly delusional isn’t it. And where is your credibility? The conspiratorially voices in your head on how every capitalist entity is somehow out to screw you.They don’t need to, you are of no relevance so you are left to your own insanity. Quick grab the tin foil hat.
    .
    “I thought rightists couldn’t do irony”
    .
    Two problems what you do is not thinking. and second Irony was the liberal word of the day on Tuesday.
    .
    “I am not that worried about the unions. Afterall, they couldn’t do the damage to the American economy that the Wall Street banks have done over the past three years”
    .
    Of course you are not. You are clueless and convinced about what happened and will defend the indefensible til the end. Its the liberal way.
    .

    .

  • freeinpa

    “a real liberal voice in the Swamp or do you guys plan to keep sponging off the unpaid commentariate?”
    .
    Or when are we going to get somebody as looney as we are?
    .
    Poor bat crap crazy left can’t get no love even on their own site. No wonder they liked it before talk radio and Fox–unimpeded crap from the liberal MSM

  • paulejb

    shepherdwong@14.2,
    .
    You are beginning to sound like a broken record, wong. Does an original thought ever pass through your mind?
    .
    As to the subject of defense, there is this…
    .
    http://zbigniewmazurak.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/obama-plans-a-huge-defense-budget-cut-for-fy2012/

  • paulejb

    fhmadvocat@15.1,
    .
    Karl Rove and the Bush family are old news. They are not the future of the Republican party.
    .
    Mitt Romney will have to eat RomneyCare if he expects to get the nomination.
    .
    It appears to me that it is Republican women who are providing the leadership in the Republican party. Republican males seem too timid to face off with the storm troopers of the left.

  • paulejb

    freeinpa@16,
    .
    Jamie Gorelick seems to be able to wade through the manure waist deep and still come up smelling like a rose,
    I suspect she is able to manage that because she knows where the bodies are buried.
    .
    How else would she wind up on the 9/11 commission as a member rather than a witness? Having her on the 9/11 commission was like having Kato Kaelin on the OJ jury.

  • paulejb

    shepherdwong@20.2,
    .
    Describing Mike Murphy as a “conservative” is like describing you as rational. Not even close.

  • deconstructiva

    Or when are we going to get somebody as looney as we are?
    .
    So freewelcherbirther, you finally admit you’re a loon. Good for you.

  • paulejb

    grape_crush@20.1,
    .
    I’ll start to worry about Michelle Bachmann when she starts uttering things like…
    .
    “We’re the ones we’ve been waiting for.” or
    .
    “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and the planet began to heal.”
    .
    Then we will know that she too has been bitten by the “Messiah” bug.

  • shepherdwong

    Having a transcript and video of it is certainly delusional isn’t it.
    .
    But you don’t, do you? Go ahead, put up a link to a video or transcript showing Lerner “Speaking…about his plans to destroy Wall Street and the markets and create all the necessary conditions to push us into a complete change of government and redistribution of wealth.”
    .
    You can’t because you’re just a delusion, right-wing paranoid who pathetically swallows every lie fed to you by your right-wing authoritarian disinformation sources.

  • paulejb

    Paul-no@17.4,
    .
    No one can do irony like the loony left…
    .

    .
    How’s that for irony, grape?

  • freeinpa

    Here it is ShepDong. Another liberal delusion shattered by reality

    “http://www.theblaze.com/stories/revealed-the-lefts-economic-terrorism-playbook-the-chase-campaign-for-a-coalition-of-unions-community-groups-lawmakers-and-students-to-take-down-us-capitalism-and-redistribute-wealth-power/

  • freeinpa

    Damn that public education. I see you still have trouble reading simple sentences. But conservatives don’t expect brilliance from liberals just arrogance which you confuse all the time

    Have someone who didn’t graduate from public school read thre post to you.

  • freeinpa

    paulejb

    You have to admit the left is their own biggest fan

  • blueswede04

    @4.2
    .
    Very interesting comment. No offence to anyone, but here is what I don’t get about the majority of Americans (or very many Americans). They don’t have any problems accepting that some people are vastly richer than the are, much more beautiful, or better at sports, but the suggestion that somebody else may be smarter, or more knowledgeable about, say, climatology or paleontology makes the average American see red. Why this fervent egalitarianism when it comes to intellectual pursuits? It is sad when politicians have to actually strive to appear dumber than they are. Your observation about Clinton is a good one.
    .
    It seems to be accepted nowadays that you have to be independently wealthy to run for higher office. That is de facto plutocracy. But smarter or better educated? Elitism!

  • freeinpa

    “I suspect she is able to manage that because she knows where the bodies are buried.”
    .
    Yeah Martha Stewart got jail time for lying about a non-crime why this one is responsible for American deaths and fraud for billions of dollars that led to a crisis and she gets another government job.

    And the left just can’t understand why the government is a useless corrupt animal that must be shrunk.

  • powerpoultry

    Bad for the GOP are lurching old zombies like Rove, Krauthammer, Brooks, Will, & Gingrich. They need to lay down & decompose. Michele Bachmann is torrid, tempestuous, tantalizing, tried, true, and tough. She will be a great President.

  • deconstructiva

    Congrats. You’ve just admitted that your command of English is poor. If you intend to write something a certain way then you should write it that way. Don’t assume that anyone outside your RW high school clique (guessing you, rusty, paulie, etc. are separate people) speaks Palinese word salad or thinks your way …and also don’t assume anyone else wants to.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    Have someone who didn’t graduate from public school read thre post to you.
    .
    lolz…anyone care to diagram freeper’s sentence for him? I love it when trolls question other people’s intelligence but don’t bother using proper grammar, punctuation, or proofread their spelling.
    .
    I mean, if you want to imply that someone is dumb and can’t bother showing that you’re any smarter, you just negated any weak point you were trying to make in the first place.

  • newfreedomblog

    “Yeah Martha Stewart got jail time for lying about a non-crime why this one is responsible for American deaths and fraud for billions of dollars that led to a crisis and she gets another government job.”

    .
    Brilliant analogy freeinpa. Nailed it!!

  • newfreedomblog

    Here you go wongy. Now listen closely, the introduction of Stephen Lerner comes quickly at the beginning, but this is him. Listen how he describes the “spontaneous” refusal for Americans to not pay their mortgages so that banks default.
    .
    “We just need a 1/2 million more people to default on their loans to cause another financial crisis”
    .

  • paulejb

    freeinpa@20.6,
    .
    I imagine that’s preferable to having no fans at all.

  • textee

    Time magazine predictably digs up Mike Murphy from God only knows where (Obama’s Organizing for America? ACORN? The Huffington Post? Daily Kos? MoveOn.org? Code Pink?) and comically identifies him as a “Republican political consultant”!!!

    “Republican”? “Mike Murphy”? LOL!

    Murphy is a “Republican”, and I’m an Obama loving al Qaeda commander.

  • paulejb

    grape_crush@21.3,
    .
    You always know when liberals are losing an argument. They start checking spelling and grammar. And if the really get desperate they will call you a “racist.”

  • paulejb

    newfreedom…@17.10,
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    What are you trying to do? Make Wong’s head explode?

  • newfreedomblog

    WTF!!! Exceptional!!
    .
    I can hear the libtards’ heads exploding now. Popping like bubbles out of their magic bubble wands.

  • paulejb

    freeinpa@16.4,
    .
    I don’t know if that’s entirely fair to Jamie. After all Fannie and Freddie served as piggy banks for Democrats of all stripes both in at out of office. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Barack Obama and Franklin Raines, just to name a few.
    .
    Democrats gave Fannie and Freddie the burglar tools and told them not to steal.

  • shepherdwong

    Listen how he describes the “spontaneous” refusal for Americans to not pay their mortgages so that banks default.
    .
    “We just need a 1/2 million more people to default on their loans to cause another financial crisis”

    .
    Jesus, you people should be institutionalized. First off, your quote is a lie, Lerner never says those words. Second, nowhere is he heard “[s]peaking…about his plans to destroy Wall Street and the markets and create all the necessary conditions to push us into a complete change of government and redistribution of wealth.”
    .
    Paranoid loon or partisan hack, you choose. On second thought, you don’t have to choose – you either, paulie.

  • shepherdwong

    Hate to break it to you, that’s your own grey matter you’re hearing, what’s left of it anyway. Magic bubble wand sounds about right.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    You always know…
    .
    …when someone is trolling and trying to stir sh*t up when they ignore whatever point was being made and try to make some clever rejoinder…
    .
    …and fail. Which is what you just did, paulie. Fail. Please put a bit more effort into it next time.
    .
    Now I’ll just go back to ignoring your troll-y, sorry arse. Have a pleasant evening.

  • sue_n

    Wait, do you want her for president or the cover of a bodice-ripper romance novel?

  • paulejb

    grape_crush@21.5,
    .
    “Fail?”
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    I think not. If I failed you would not be quite so agitated. You would just ignore me. Since you didn’t, I know that I hit a nerve.
    .
    Pleasure playing with you, grape. Better luck next time.

  • paulejb

    sue_n@22.1,
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    Odd. I thought that we were living a bodice-ripper now. 3 valiant women convince the entire male establishment to go to war despite the reluctance of the monarch, Barack the Uncertain.

  • hippooath

    “Since Barack Hussein Obama is currently engaged in dismantling the defense establishment of the USA, it is probably best that we leave this one to the Brits and the Frenchies.”
    .
    If it was true, good, but since it’s not…oh well.
    .
    I’m glad you get your news from blogs – reality and the fact that our Military budget just seems to grow and grow doesn’t strike you as odd?
    .
    But I can’t really see what that has to do with anything. More red meat and distraction for people such as yourself. How about we spend some of that money on America instead of weapons?

  • chohkmah

    “21.6
    grape_crush@21.5,
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    “Fail?”
    .
    I think not. If I failed you would not be quite so agitated. You would just ignore me. Since you didn’t, I know that I hit a nerve.
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    Pleasure playing with you, grape. Better luck next time.
    paulejb
    March 24, 2011
    at 8:08 pm”
    .
    Gotta love a troll that’s so smugly idiotic as to self-admit to being one….
    .
    Moderators: Paulejb’s goal here is to disrupt conversation and instigate conflict for its own sake. I ask you take appropriate action and remove his ability to post.
    .
    Everyone else: He’s (as many of us have known for a while now) yet another troll just here to get a reaction. Ignore him, don’t feed him, don’t respond to him. What he says serve no other purpose than to rile you up and get a reaction. His greatest reward is someone arguing with him. This is likewise true of Newfreedom and Freeinpa…. just let them have their little box of idiocy, and move on with the actual discussion.
    .
    You’ll notice between the 3 of them, they’ve managed to completely derail this topic…. again….

  • chohkmah

    torrid, tempestuous….

    Sounds like you’re voting for Hurricane/Typhoon ’12

    though given the destruction the Tea party promises to unleash on the country, it’s not a bad description, really.

  • sacredh

    “I wasn’t sure anyone would catch it.”
    .
    Speaking only for myself of course…I only look stupid.

  • hippooath

    “I think not. If I failed you would not be quite so agitated. You would just ignore me. Since you didn’t, I know that I hit a nerve.”
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    Paule, I think I need to explain since you seem a little slow for someone so clever. Logic 101 – Freeinpa rips someones intelligence but puts together a sentence that reads like word salad.
    .
    Yet you declare victory whenever someone points out spelling and grammar. Ironic consider Freeinpa have done so himself, not for word salad mind you but just for displaced word.
    .
    So here’s the logic – Freeinpa comes off as ‘un-intelligent’ by word salading while b!tching about someone else intelligence.
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    Now do you understand or do I need to use simpler words and shorter sentences?

  • sacredh

    “Bachmann 2012: Good for the Media, Bad for the GOP”
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    Her cups runneth over. She’s the kind of GOP candidate that I would want to run if I had my pick. The debates are going to be great. The only real downside that I can see for the democrats is that she’ll make Romney, Pawlenty, Newt and a couple other of their real candidates look brilliant by comparison.

  • paulejb

    chohkmah@21.7,
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    Liberals are so predictable. If they’re not checking your spelling or grammar or calling you a “racist,” then they are calling for censorship.
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    So, Mr Chohkmah, did you float in here on your own or did someone call for help? Do you always show up to demand a rule change if your side is losing? I don’t remember seeing you screen name here before so I imagine that you are a professional complainer called in when your colleagues get desperate.
    .
    Back to you, champ.

  • paulejb

    hippooath@21.8,
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    My observation was a truism regardless of the circumstances. It comes from long experience with how liberals react when the argument does not go there way.
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    Step 1. Revert to criticizing spelling and grammar.
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    If that doesn’t work…
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    Step 2. Resort to alleging “racism.”
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    If all else fails…
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    Step 3. Demand censorship.
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    And if none of that works…
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    Step 4. Start shouting imprecations in a loud voice.

  • deconstructiva

    Paulejb, chohkmah has posted often in the past, both here and at other TIME blogs. If you’d bother to search the archives – or be “intellectually superior” as you’ve claimed before, like http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/02/14/morning-must-reads-budget-day/comment-page-1/#comment-245649 – then you’d already know this. Obviously neither is true.
    .
    …and chohkmah, re: 21.7, you’re right re: trolls but an opportunity to point out paule’s mistake is too strong to resist …once.

  • apr2563

    if all the Republicans now contemplating a presidential campaign actually run, the debates will be hilarious. They will only have seconds to answer deep and meaningful questions and try to out pander each other to their base, TPers, Christianists, and corporations.
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    Answers:
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    Jesus is my hero
    No evolution is not real
    Climate change, not according to my Bible
    Christians should rule
    Islams must be expelled
    Tax the poor to give to the rich
    Down with unions. Up with child labor.
    Repeal DADT
    No marriage for Godless homosexuals
    Repeal Obama care, do away with SS, Medicare and Medicaid, unemployment benefits, food subsidies. Well, end aid to the needy. Coporatiions need all that money.
    Brown people are befouling our country.
    Guns must be carried by everyone, everywhere, at all times.
    .

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  • carpevis

    apr2563, what you just wrote is considered Conservative porn. Might want to tone it down a notch or two. Children may be reading.

  • paulejb

    deconstuctiva@21.11,
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    Why in heaven’s name would I care to research the archives for anything related to chohkmah? If you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all.
    .
    I have never seen a bunch so concerned with my intellectual superiority. Some curse it, some challenge it, some want to censor it but none can deny it.

  • paulejb

    apr2563@24.1,
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    Jesus is my hero — Preferable to Karl Marx is my hero.
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    No evolution is not real — Considering some on these blogs it has not caught up yet.
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    Climate Change, not according to my bible — The hoax formerly known as “global warming.”
    .
    Christians should rule — Preferable to Muslims should rule.
    .
    Islams must be expelled — Only if they are carrying explosives.
    .
    Tax the poor to give to the rich — Isn’t that what Democrats do with labor unions?
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    Down with unions. Up with child labor. — Okay with the first. On the second, the little buggers could use the exercise.
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    Repeal DADT — Too late. The cat is out of the bag.
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    No marriage for Godless homosexuals — What makes you think that they are Godless?
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    Repeal ObamaCare etc… — Stop with the repeal of Obamacare. We can look at the rest later.
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    Brown people are befouling our country — Not just brown people, liberals come in all shapes, sizes and colors.
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    Guns must be carried by everyone, everywhere, at all times — Lucky that model had her little pink .38. She smoked that dude who broke in her house.

  • bc3b

    Mike Murphy – the Klingon working to keep the “Rockefeller Wing” of the GOP alive. Few things are worse for than the Republican Party than following the advice of Mike Murphy.

  • http://gtomkins.wordpress.com gtomkins

    Mr. Murphy,

    Don’t be so modest. The strenuous efforts of all you Republican consultants over the past generation has succeeded in producing a Republican electorate that would vote for Bachmann in far greater numbers than some “sliver”. Barry Goldwater, who was resoundingly rejected by the general electorate in 1964 as too extreme right-wing, would today be considered too radically left-wing by your party to have any chance of getting your nomination.

    That change didn’t happen by chance. It happened because you guys went to great pains over a generation to use racism and xenophobia to whip that large part of the electorate that consistently votes for your party into a state or permanent hysteria.

    You are appropriately concerned that Bachmann could win the nomination of the party you have made into a monster. You are going to reap what you have sown. Unfortunately, the rest of us are likely to catch some of the consequences of your greed and folly.

  • brooklineobserver

    This is an inevitable result of a Republican Party that has allowed itself to become more and more extreme. That people such as Bachmann, Palin, Gingrich, and Trump can be mentioned in the same sentence with “President of the United States” boggles the mind. Have our politics become so debased and meaningless that we could possibly consider any of these pathetic characters qualified to hold the presidency?

  • http://thomaschi.wordpress.com thomaschi

    Michele Bachmann for Tea Party President – Let us enjoy the months running up to 2012. Lets have fun with the GOP fundraisers for Sarah Palin, Huckabee, and Newt. This entertainment is going to be like a circus where they serve free beer to anyone without a college education. Can I please have a ring side seat next to the group in the front row without high school diplomas. Pass the ham sandwiches with cheese, folks, this dairy farm is going to start turning up sour milk turned into Monterey jack. ” “Honey, take the childrens money out of the bank, the money for college. Yes, we are going to send it to Michele Bachmann’s Political Action Committee – Michele PAC – Bachmann is going to take the White House away from Obama – Write the check! I will sign it. ” “- PresidentSarah.Net

  • http://fuzislippers.blogspot.com/ fuzislippers

    The title says it all. The “media” is not interested in reporting facts–propagandist hacks are salivating at the thought of another conservative woman to savage. No wonder “the media” is dying out.

  • toddluvslounging

    Nobody’s fault except the Republican party. If the party stopped playing with fire and stopped supporting unqualified candidates instead of thinking the party can control crazy people, then the Republican party can actually govern by compromise. Alas, this is not so and all we’re left is the fire. You’d think Joe McCarthy would have been a lesson to us all.

    Oh, well, the Republicans or their powers that be have longed since figured chaos whether self-inflicted (Bush) or anarchy or obstruction is preferable to America succeeding if only to prevent increased taxes on the wealthy. It’s obscene. I’m absolutely shocked this is actually working for the Republicans.

    Hey, America. Reward a-holes and the stink will soon follow.

  • blogenfreude

    Sorry Mike, but you created her and the other GOP lunatics that make up the bulk of your party. Let’s not forget that when Reagan gave his first campaign speech in 1980, he went to Philadelphia Mississippi, where the civil rights workers were killed. Did he talk about civil rights? No, he talked about ‘states rights’ – dog whistle for “the Democrats will give all your money to black people.” Rod Serling warned you about it in 1964 – he said that if you invite Birchers, bigots, and racists into your front parlor, you will regret it. But every GOP candidate runs by scaring white people. And that lead to the Bachmanns, Scott Walkers, and Gohmerts of the world taking over your party. You have nothing left but sociopaths, and you have no one but yourselves to blame.

  • blogenfreude

    Exactly – the GOP can’t win with just the Thurston Howell III’s out there, so they needed to attract another base. They did it by scaring white people. QED.

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