Obama and the Crises

With Japan in a state of emergency and the Middle East still roiling in dangerous and unpredictable ways, President Obama has been notably absent from view over the past few days. This is of a piece with a recent strategy, coinciding with a staff shift that brought Bill Daley and David Plouffe to the White House, of trying to rise above the vagaries of the news cycle and stay focused on the long game (namely, jobs and growth as a message leading into the 2012 election). But at a moment when it feels that the world is reaching a full boil, it’s hard for the president not to speak. The challenge for the White House is in figuring out what Obama can constructively say. One lesson from the BP oil disaster is that there’s not much use in having the president personalize a crisis about which he can’t do much. (That limited power certainly applies to Japan, though less so to Libya– although in the latter case Obama has chosen not to intervene against Ghaddafi absent far more international backing.)

Recent events are also a reminder, as another campaign slowly gears up, of how much the presidency is about reacting to completely unforseen emergencies. In hindsight most of the 2008 campaign feels pretty irrelevant to a 100-year economic crisis, revolution in the Middle East, a giant oil spill, the shooting of a Congresswoman, and a possible nuclear catastrophe.

Obama leaves on Saturday for a four-day trip to South America.

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  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    I disagree. The most Obama can or should do is make a speech about how tragic these events are and how he’s praying for the people while Americans do everything they can to help.

    As far as Libya, thank god we aren’t in another war.

    You press people are too hellbent on getting a story and being sensationalist to be worth taken on as advisors. Didn’t we got to war in the Bahamas once from such advice and learn our lesson then?

  • Michael Crowley

    Obama did say on Friday that he is heartbroken about the earthquake and tsunami.

  • newfreedomblog

    You will not get a Christmas card next Christmas Michael Crowley if you keep this up!!.
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    Now we can sit back and wait for all of the libtards to descend upon you to call you out for “being so mean to their Messiah, the One”.
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  • chupkar

    I believe he has prefaced at least two other appearances with comments on Japan. What else do you want him to do? Hold a primetime presser on it? It is *Japan*, not *US*. I guess he is doing ok if this is the best people can find to pick on.

  • newfreedomblog

    Obama leaves on Saturday for a four-day trip to South America

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    Why? Any reports on the purpose of this most recent escapade out of the country?

  • newfreedomblog

    LOL@chupkar, as I predicted. So predictable libards are in most everything they do.
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    Next!!

  • afguy

    To pi$$ you off, maybe?

  • nflfoghorn

    The RustFreep Way:
    1) Someone makes a statement
    2) He comments about it, usually making a snide reference to the intended “liberal”
    3) Someone comments on HIS comment
    4) RustFreep says “aha! You stupid libtard, you responded just as I predicted.”
    5) Liberals collectively scratch heads wondering how his intellectual superiority just shot over our liberal heads.
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    Maybe I oughta replace the word “shot” with something similar ;)

  • shepherdwong

    Any reports on the purpose of this most recent escapade out of the country?
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    If you’re too stupid or lazy to use teh google, maybe you should STFU and go do something commensurate with your intellect and abilities. Take a mop.
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    http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/15/2115657/president-obamas-south-america.html

  • newfreedomblog

    Hey foggy, seen the DOW today? It’s tanking right along with the Japanese stock market. Good news, huh?
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    Yea you never, ever do that do you foggy? LOL, dweeb.

  • newfreedomblog

    Here’s a quarter wongy, call someone who cares.
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  • nflfoghorn

    No, it’s not. Is this God’s way of punishing US because we elected a black president?
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    Keep up the entertainment.

  • billexpress10

    I generally agree with the gist of your post, that the Presidency is often focused on putting out fires, but the first sentence reference to ‘notably absent’ is not really accurate. In addition to his Friday press conference, Obama yesterday spoke in Arlington at an education-focused event (covered by the press, I assume) that included this passage:

    “Now, before I begin, let me just say that like all Americans, I continue to be heartbroken by the images of devastation in Japan. And I know all of you, young and old, have been watching the full magnitude of this tragedy unfold. I want to reiterate America’s support for the people of Japan, who are some of our closest friends and allies. And I’ve said directly to the Prime Minister of Japan, Prime Minister Kan, that the United States will continue to offer any assistance we can as Japan recovers from multiple disasters, and we will stand with the people of Japan in the difficult days ahead.”

    And wasn’t it a month ago that the President was criticized for speaking too much about Egypt?

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    Then, Michael, short of sprouting wings, gaining X-ray vision, and becoming invulnerable to bullets, I don’t know what else we should expect or want.
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    As I said, its one thing to not like whats going on in the rest of the world. Its quite another to try and fix those things. Its yet another to have to pay for them. In an age where we can’t seem to find just cause to fix our own problems, we shouldn’t be fixing the problems of other people.
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    Its time for a self evaluation if anything… because there really is only so much time in the day.

  • charlieromeobravo

    “Hey foggy, seen the DOW today? It’s tanking right along with the Japanese stock market. Good news, huh?”
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    Is that supposed to be Obama’s fault somehow? That’s the usual message your posts are trying to imply…

  • rdw56

    feels pretty irrelevant to a 100-year economic crisis,

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    I suppose this is supposed to suggest Poor Barak inherited the worst economy in 100 years. You can’t be serious. The mess Reagan inherited was worst with a recession, high inflation and high interest rates. Then there’s that thing we called the great depression.

    You do Obama no favors recalling his bonehead spending plans which failed utterly.

  • hippooath

    Do we have to have a half time superbowl event around every single tragedy in the world that we’re not directly involved in? Is that for our benefit or for whomever is affected?

    Do you think the Japanese people care what we say beyond what we’ve already said and doing for them right now?

    Not defending Obama here, but what exactly would him cartwheeling onto the stage and with a Shattner impression expressing anything about Japan, do anyone anything good?

    We’re not suffering this tragedy. We’re only consuming their misery. Some with glee (see elsewhere here) and others in horror. This, Egypt and Libya was and never will be about us. Unless us means us the entire humanity.

    This is about Japan and no star spangled banner spectacle will change what I feel about this tragedy nor will it change what the Japanese people feel right now watching the smoke pour out from their nuclear power plant.

  • newfreedomblog

    All talk no action. A big difference between just saying and doing what you need to do.
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    Golf anyone??

  • newfreedomblog

    Wow, so profound.
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    “Unless us means us the entire humanity.”

  • kcory

    Michael, NewFreedomBlog is using that offensive word in this thread as well. He should be removed.

  • rdw56

    What else do you want him to do

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    It’s called what goes around comes around. remember when GWB pledged a small sum for Indonesia when the Tsumami hit as a place holder epxlaining this will get efforts started while we calculate their needs? He was trashed nationally and internationally. At the time as always happens the USA was the only one on site helping and the UN and Europeans are taking cheap shots at Americans for being cheap.

    You had to know this was coming.

  • allthingsinaname

    He can commit the US to support the rebellion in Lybia, commit the resources of the US to Japan, Start the Cold War with Russia, China, Venezuela, Threaten Saudi Arabia, Take over Pakistan, and Raise our Taxes to pay for it. Oh wait!

  • sacredh

    “President Obama has been notably absent from view over the past few days”

    That might be because the disaster that continues to unfold in Japan isn’t about him or scoring political points. The non-stop coverage that we’re all witnessing says more than he ever could. We have ships that are aiding in the rescue efforts, experts on the ground doing what they can in helping the Japanese people, search teams with dogs hunting for survivors and aid and supplies being delivered and distributed. Having the President giving press conferences about something that we can all see for ourselves seems pointless.

  • newfreedomblog

    @kcory see comment 3.3
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    “Mommy he took my toy”

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    Poor kcory, so many things are “offensive” to him. Does the truth always bother you like this kcory?

  • nflfoghorn

    Indonesian tsunami happened Christmas 2004…
    US was criticized initially for not giving much….
    Because SPAIN AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES BEAT US TO IT!
    US (read: W) then gave an additional $350M.
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    Pays to know your history, bub.
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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6767190/

  • newfreedomblog

    I agree 100%. I think Obambi needs to play more golf. I recommend he go out everyday, day in and day out.
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    One thing is certain, we will not be any worse off than we are right now.
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    The only thing I can come up with that he could do, go to Japan, throw his whole body on top of the nuclear reactor and play superman. I really think he could pull it off.

  • newfreedomblog

    Indonesian tsunami happened Christmas 2004…

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    Yea, the only difference then from now. The US did have a little money to spare to help, now, not so much.

  • hippooath

    Try it, it’s not always about USA Newfreedom

  • hippooath

    I didn’t critize him for it. My eyes was on the enormity of that tragedy, not what Bush did at that time. So are you telling me that this is just a tit for tat simply because someone was mean to Bush? Excellent argument, if you’re 10 years old.

  • nflfoghorn

    If you add the 5 and the 6, I think RDW is actually eleven.

  • sacredh

    “I think”
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    No, you don’t.

  • rdw56

    Pays to know your history, bub.

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    I know my history bub, you conformed it. Bush put a small number out there to get the ball rolling announcing it was only preliminary until they better understood the need. He got hammered, especially by the UN and European elitists but also democrats. Some dick at the UN created a controversy calling Americans stingy.

    Classic UN. This European bureaucrat is trashing Bush for being cheap while the US Navy was onsite virtually alone providing relief. Sometimes is almost embarrassing beating those morons up. And you wonder why support for the UN and Europe is in the toilet.

  • rdw56

    . So are you telling me that this is just a tit for tat

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    Well duh!!! Just start following politics did you? Remember the MSM hammering Bush for golfing while we were at war? Bush gave it up. We’re still at war and Obama has been golfing more in 2 years than Bush did in 8 years. Time isn’t reporting it be we know and the comics are enjoying. IN fact while Japan and Libya were in meltdown Obama was golfing.

    It’s how the game is played. I didn’t invent it. You didn’t complain when Bush was the target so why complain now?

  • nflfoghorn

    You were the one who implied that we were so darn generous! Only after we got beat up for the appearance that we were not did we give up the ca$h.
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    Maybe for once you can admit when you were wr…wr….wr…..wr……
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    (that’s you having a Fonz moment) :)

  • rdw56

    The part of the job Obama hates. Pity, he took cheap shot after cheap shot at Bush when he was in the Senate. This is delicious irony. Remember how he opposed every one of GWBs national security and defense policies? And now all are his?

    This comes with the job he asked to have. As far as that trip he will absolutely take abuse for it if he actually goes.

  • hippooath

    “Well duh!!! Just start following politics did you? Remember the MSM hammering Bush for golfing while we were at war? Bush gave it up. We’re still at war and Obama has been golfing more in 2 years than Bush did in 8 years. Time isn’t reporting it be we know and the comics are enjoying. IN fact while Japan and Libya were in meltdown Obama was golfing.

    It’s how the game is played. I didn’t invent it. You didn’t complain when Bush was the target so why complain now?”
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    Do you have any idea what I’ve said in the past about anything related to Bush?
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    This is not ‘politics’ This is ‘childish’. There’s a difference. One implies that there’s a idealist difference in how we govern this country (and our relationship abroad). The other is your amoebic version of eye for an eye as political scoring. It is entirely and completely removed of anything that has to do with politics domestic or international.

  • kcory

    NewFree you are certainily entitled to your opinion although I vehemently disagree with every one that you voice here. It is your use of deragatory terms that I am offended by. Perhaps if you could support your opinions without name calling you would be heard here.

  • afguy

    Perhaps if you could support your opinions without name calling you would be heard here.
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    If he tried that he’d be a complete mute. With Rusty, the name-calling is a form of Tourette’s Syndrome.
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    I really don’t think he can help himself.

  • rdw56

    Only after we got beat up for the appearance that we were not did we give up the ca$h.
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    Maybe for once you can admit when you were

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    We were wrong? Huh? what does ‘for the appearance’ mean.

    FYI: I rather enjoyed the entire thing. The guy got his head handed to him here as did anyone who tried to defend him. Kruathammer gave the worst verbal beating I’ve ever seen on TV when CiCi Connelly of the Wash Post repeated the charge and suggested there was some truth to it. CK essentially tap danced on his face also pointing out to there the large presence of the US Navy, there virtually alone, didn’t come free yet the dicks in Europe and at the UN seems to think it did. For the next week we were treated to endless video on CNN and Fox of the heroic efforts of the US military to save lives.

    One neat tidbit. The UN actually did make it to the capital and setup shop in a 5 star hotel. with no assets of their own they decided to declare the UN in charge and take over recovery operations. they showed up on the flagship of the US Navy group with ‘orders’ and stickers to be slapped on US supplies, “Provided by the UN’. The commander was outraged and contacted Washington. He was ordered to remove all UN personnel by force if necessary and ensure they didn’t relabel so much as a cracker.

    UN / EU bureaucrats are the best. If the goal is to drive down support for the UN to single digits they’re perfect.

    Don’t know if you noticed or will agree with me but in my lifetime I’ve never seen US European relations so distant. Bush talked to many of their leaders weekly and worked to establish close relationships. Obama seems to avoid them. One of the upsides of his decision to remove himself from deliberations on Libya is to allow our European critics to set up and assert themselves. They think they should lead. We’ll lets see what they can do.

  • rdw56

    Do you have any idea what I’ve said in the past about anything related to Bush?
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    This is not ‘politics’ This is ‘childish’.

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    I have no idea what you said about Bush when he was President. I don’t think I read a word of your before 2010. But I know what the left did then and still does. If you are going to dish it out you are going to get it back.

    childish yes, did you notice how childish when Bush was on the receiving end?

    I happen to think Obama should golf, play BB and take vacations. The job ages men due to the pressure and balance is important. But Time and the NYTs and all of the usual suspects trashed Bush on these things constantly. He gave up golf because of it. Liberals enjoyed the roasting Bush received. Well enjoy it now, you earned it.

  • chupkar

    If you people would stop responding to the trolls, they would not so gleefully spam post constantly. Seriously, why talk to them? It’s getting to ridiculous to read through the comments and see the posts with any real input.

  • smokehouse56

    If you don’t believe in American exceptionalism and that America is the last best hope for a sane world you are a liberal. If we don’t lead the way who the hell will? Oh, by the way, Japan is a world power. They will recover very nicely thank you.

  • sacredh

    Good advice. I think I’ll follow it. Sometimes I stray, but I’ll make the extra effort.

  • http://edismeiamhe edismeiamhe

    Hey,

    You can’t play golf and manage all those crises at the same time. It ruins the old golf score.

    What if the governement shuts down for lack of a budget, and Japan suffers a little…I’ve got the unions all lined up and I’m good for 2012…what’s to worry.\\

    So….Foreeeeee!!!!!

  • rdw56

    SPAIN AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES BEAT US TO IT!

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    As Rummy would say, “That’s simply factually incorrect. ” Mark Steyn has a great line in a great article explaining how nice and generous the Canadians are but how useless in the 1st month of the disaster. I paraphrase, “The Canadians have tons of supplies for disaster relief but they can’t get them to the far reraches of Canada let alone Asia.

    You know that vast military capacity everyone likes to trash especially the French? It’s why we were there within24 hours providing critical assistance when it was most needed. Ever hear of those thug Marines who shoot 1st and ask questions later. They only worked 20 hour days for a month before help finally showed up.

    The entire event was very well covered by Fox, CNN, MsNBC and the bloggers. The UN wasn’t just useless they were a-holes. There was a great deal of discussion over US Largess after the remarks as well as UN/EU ignorance. The US is cheap meme wasn’t defeated it was crushed. I think is was less than a month later and Pakistan had another natural disaster and History repeated. Who was there 1st with the most? The US Military. I think that’s what a lot of people mean when they talk about US exceptionalism.

    Given American public opinion of the UN dropped to about 14% and has stayed there I’s suggest that was a PR disaster.

  • rdw56

    It’s called surrender. It’s a rather weak effort by Time to explain the lack of leadership and it’s not working. In Rasmussed Obama is at a 7 month low of -22 on strongly approve – strongly disapprove and 43-57 on the generic approve / disapprove .

    This is after the Dems declared a win in Wisconsin. I don’t blame you for avoiding debate. Not much is going well.

  • hippooath

    “But I know what the left did then and still does. If you are going to dish it out you are going to get it back.

    childish yes, did you notice how childish when Bush was on the receiving end?”
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    Yes – and I was outspoken about it even. Tit for tat is not politics, it’s you excusing your own childish behavior while b!tching about others. You have all the right to critize someones policies. That’s not only American but also democratic. Feel free to do it. But what you’re b!tching about is mostly mythological babble, hysterical fantasies and stuff that’s not even in observed reality. And as you wrote yourself – this is absolutely an eye for an eye. As your previous ahistorical bull about fascists and liberals; again – eye for an eye for some imagined liberal meanie.
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    WTF – over 10000 people have died in Japan, 3 cores are melting and scientists are talking about a possible other earth quake and all you can do is to use this moment as a political scoreboard for something them/there did against Bush. Grow up. Same message I delivered to all the childish BS I read about Bush. He deserves a lot for his disasterous policies that Obama for some damn reason are still clinging too, but this kind of petulent stuff belongs in the sandbox.

  • hippooath

    I hear you

  • stuartzechman

    That’s some pretty darn rational thinking, there, hippooath.

  • rdw56

    You are correct but give it up. It’s politics. It’s been part of politics forever. Obama played that part of the game as well as anyone. He’s now on the receiving end. He’s got no choice but to man up and take it. The way the beating will show up is in his polls and the press coverage of his trip. He famously delayed overseas trips to pass healthcare and this seems to be an even more intense period. No matter what he does he will be criticized.

  • newfreedomblog

    Well kcory it is like this, when you can start to call upon those on your side to do the same, then perhaps I will become less offensive to you.
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    Have a nice day.

  • newfreedomblog

    Sane, rational and to the point. Good job.

  • libssd

    If you people would stop responding to the trolls, they would not so gleefully spam post constantly. Seriously, why talk to them? It’s getting to ridiculous to read through the comments and see the posts with any real input.
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    “Swampland” is an apt name for this place.

  • m0mentom0ri

    “Is this God’s way of punishing US because we elected a black president?
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    Keep up the entertainment.”
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    Funny you should mention “blaming God”. Here’s what Rusty Rod’s messiah has to say about it:
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    On Monday Glenn Beck suggested that Friday’s horrifying earthquake and tsunami in Japan was possibly a ‘message from God.’

    ‘We can’t see the connections here,’ he told his viewers. ‘I’m not saying God is causing earthquakes – well I’m not not saying that either!

    ‘What God does is God’s business. But I’ll tell you this – there’s a message being sent. And that is, “Hey you know that stuff we’re doing? Not really working out real well. Maybe we should stop doing some of it.” I’m just saying.’

    Will Rusty publicly refute what Glenn Beck has to say? If he doesn’t, we can assume he agrees with it (not that he’s ever disagreed with his messiah Glenn Beck).

  • westender3

    I’d really hope he plays a few rounds of golf there just to see Newfies head go “pop”.

  • apr2563

    sacredh: I try hard too. Sometimes something snaps inside me. The reactionaries make an extraordinary stupid comment and I find myself reacting. Pointless.
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    I do love to post links to the crazy right wing reactionaries daily madness. It is often funny and on occasion, scary.

  • http://richarddelightful.wordpress.com richarddelightful

    Obama did do some things:
    1. He was the only president ever to send military aid to Quaddafi.
    2. He blocked the rebels from receiving arms.
    3. He blocked a no fly zone.
    These are all things he did – for Quaddafi.

  • afguy

    Remember the MSM hammering Bush for golfing while we were at war? Bush gave it up.
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    Wasn’t just the MSM, rdw… veterans’ groups did it too. From the Guardian…

    George Bush has angered US war veterans by declaring that out of solidarity with those who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq he decided to make his own sacrifice: giving up golf.

    Problem was, what he said wasn’t entirely accurate.

    Bush said he laid down his clubs after the August 2003 bombing of United Nations offices in Baghdad that killed the UN’s top official in the country, Sergio Vieira de Mello. “I remember when de Mello got killed as a result of these murderers taking this good man’s life. I was playing golf – I think in central Texas – and they pulled me off the golf course and I said, ‘It’s just not worth it any more’.”
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    According to a database held by CBS News the statement is not entirely accurate. He did cut short a round of golf at the 12th hole on that day, but his last recorded game came two months later, October 13.

  • pelhamite1

    Unfortunately, experience suggests that not responding to the trolls seems to encourage them. I think that Rod and his Philadelphia cabal are in fact dedicated to ruining as many political blogs as they can and they seem to have targeted Swampland in particualr. Especially since Swampland, unlike the conservative Red State blog, is too fair mainded to throw them off.

    .

    I would love it if the sheer idiocy of their posts caused their brains to implode, but that seems unlikely to happen. Rather, just as the Democratic Party has to constantly bang the drum about how heartless, craven and downright dangerous the current Republican Party has become, so I think we cannot avoid the task of continuing to shine a light on the ugliness of this new viral strain of right wing militancy. Which is too bad, because a genuine debate with thoughtful conservatives would be far more preferable and stimulating. In the meantime, I am learning a lot about how real cretins think.

  • CP in FL

    smokeforbrain – I believe America is exceptional at getting into wars without paying for them and with no real exit strategy. The US is leading alright; I just hope no other countries are dumb enough to follow us off the cliff that we are headed for. Oh good, new trolls.

  • apr2563

    Have to link again. Louis Black on US #1 status.
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  • shepherdwong

    Seriously, why talk to them?
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    To mock them. The problem with the country is that the public is one-third measurably insane and one-third is disaffected/misinformed and/or confused. The reason is because, for thirty years now, the traditional public media have treated “conservative” liars and “conservative” dogma as if it is worthy of respect and consideration. They/it are not.
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    Right this very minute, the Very Serious People inside the Beltway are arguing about how to cut government spending. Of course, with unsustainable unemployment and a serious liquidity trap they should be studying how to increase government spending to create growth and jobs. Why is the conversation insanely backwards? Because inside the Village, “conservative” dogma that should be mocked and shamed is considered respectable and worthy of consideration, no matter how foolish or stupid.
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    “Conservatives” and “conservatism” need to be ridiculed and shamed at every opportunity if the misinformed/confused third of the public are going to come to see them for what they are. The public media can’t come to terms (out loud at least) with what “conservatives” and the “conservative” movement are because the truth of it has been defined as “uncivil,” “partisan,” and “shrill” by the Village (again, in response to “conservatives”). It’s up to the rest of us now.

  • rdw56

    Wasn’t just the MSM, rdw..

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    MSM was shorthand for liberal partisans. The bottom line is Obama in two years has golfed more than Bush did in eight. My point isn’t the Presidents schedule. I think they should have plenty of exercise and a reasonable amount of down time to keep themselves as fresh as possible. I have no problem with Obama golfing. I am mocking the partisans who trashed GWB for getting some relaxation now complaining Obama is getting a raw deal for the same thing. It’s all a game. It’s base politics 101. They do it because they think it works. It does feed the image of Obama as an elitist disconnected from the major problems of the day.

  • liberalmeltdown

    Don’t bother Obama, he’s busy playing golf.
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    http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/as-dying-libyan-rebels-scream-where-s-obama-obama-plays-golf
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    s dying Libyan rebels scream, “Where’s Obama?” Obama plays golf. For the past few days, the calls for a no-fly zone and just general military help from the US under Obama have intensified. These calls have been coming from the Arab League, Britain, and, most significantly, the very Libyan rebels on the front lines of the fight. The rebels have suffered key setbacks in the last few days, with the most prominent one being their loss of the Libyan city of Ras Lanuf, as Gaddafi’s forces used their air superiority to pound the living daylights out of the fighters on the ground. Rebels being massacred on the front lines have actually been heard to shout, “Where’s Obama?” in their desperation. However, President Obama epitomized the indifference of his attitude to the Libyan rebels yesterday, playing a round of golf at Joint Base Andrews instead of helping them out.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com: As dying Libyan rebels scream, “Where’s Obama?” Obama plays golf.

  • shepherdwong

    Which is too bad, because a genuine debate with thoughtful conservatives would be far more preferable and stimulating.
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    And this is what I mean. “Conservatism” is an insane lie. It is pure, contrived bullsh!t designed to fool the right-wing-authoritarian-following rubes into thinking that laughably idiotic “small government” “free market” dogma is something other than false dogma to allow for more deregulation of major corporations and lower taxes for their owners. Ergo, there are no “thoughtful conservatives.” They are either liars or fools.

  • afguy

    The UK newspaper Guardian is “liberal partisans”?
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    Who knew…?

  • rdw56

    It’s up to the rest of us now.

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    You go ahead and fight. This post is 100% damage control trying to explain why our leader doesn’t lead. It’s an exceptionally weak effort they don’t seem to even be invested in themselves Obama made some mistakes getting out ahead of a crises (oil spill) and they think it wasn’t that what he did was wrong but that he just needed to wait until all was known. Yes, that’s leadership. Libya is going to be a problem for him. He did nothing to help the rebels and nothing to cobble together a coalition to discuss it seriously. Susan Rice missed the 1st two meetings at the UN to talk about it.

  • rdw56

    They are either liars or fools.

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    Gotta suck for you 2x’s as many Americans consider themselves conservative than liberal and on issues like Gitmo and trying KSM in NY it’s more like 3 to 1.

  • liberalmeltdown

    Bush flies over Katrina and the left goes nuts. Obama jokes about spending his time on the golf course while Japan is in ruins and the Middle East blows up and the MSM does their usual thing: nothing. But I’m sure that as soon as Charlie Sheen gets some more coke, we’ll be the first to know.
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    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2011/03/15/media-quiet-obama-makes-his-ncaa-tournament-picks-plays-golf-during-
    .

    “President Obama even joked with reporters Saturday night about his fondness for sport, saying, quote, ‘I’m not spending time on the golf course. I’m investing time in the golf course.’”

  • rdw56

    I think Libya is going to hurt him. There wasn’t an attempt at leadership. He didn’t stand back waiting to see which way the wind blew because of some ideological cause. He was a deer in the headlights.

  • apr2563

    smokehouse56: Please take a moment to see video 7.4. Hopefully, it will help you understand what being #1 means, or not.

  • shepherdwong

    Gotta suck for you 2x’s as many Americans consider themselves conservative than liberal and on issues like Gitmo and trying KSM in NY it’s more like 3 to 1.
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    It sucks for everyone, even fools like you. Really, especially fools like you. You’ve sacrificed your intellect in fealty to people who laugh at you, if they think of you at all.

  • liberalmeltdown

    rdw56, either that or he wants Gaddafi in power.
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    Meanwhile he’s the local community organizer at a golf course near you. He’s fighting for lower fees and free golf tees. Yes we can!
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    61 golf days out of 418 in office. He is investing in golf. Hope and change.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    But… but… due to the miracles of technology, he can do his job right from the golf course.
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    Just type “present” and hit send.

  • rdw56

    I believe America is exceptional at getting into wars

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    5% of the worlds people producing 25% of it’s GDP and 75% of it’s innovations. There is no denying American exceptionalism.

    I have to wonder what it was like for the French and Germans and other Europeans to watch events in Libya unfold with such a good shot at getting rid of a true lunatic and after 60 years of watching the US lead seeing Obama in inaction. Do they regret their snide behavior towards Bush understanding they lost the support of the American people permanently? They didn’t like the fact GWB didn’t follow their orders but he as least had a long dialogue, tried to do something positive, and worked hard at the UN and directly for their help. He took them seriously. Susan Rice didn’t even bother to attend the 1st two UN hearings on Libya. Obama has been almost silent waiting for them to lead.

    There is a certain level of poetic justice in that. Confident living under the blanket of security we provided for 50 years and then smearing us for the efforts GWB pulled out of Europe and the American people checked out. Interesting the MSM is barely even covering Europe. Under Bush we were not supposed to blink without clearing it with Europe. Today there is virtually no contact.

  • rdw56

    he wants Gaddafi in power.

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    It really is quite strange. As a lefty Obama accepts that freedom and liberty and democracy are not for everyone. There’s no underlying sense dictatorships are by definition evil. Just because Libya is a dictatorship, cruel by our standards, gives us no right to interfere. There is also a suggestion Obama is really trying to ‘reset’ from the repulsive concept of a sole superpower, a uni-polar world. He wishes America to be one among the many. If so it’s going to be quite the shock to the rest of the world and quite threatening. If the USA isn’t going to stand up to the thugs who will? We can at least agree it won’t be the French.

  • fhmadvocat

    rdw56,

    Frankly, your claim of “Well, they trashed Bush, so now I am going to trash Obama.” is the reason most Americans hate politics and are more or less tuned out.

    As far as Bush’s response to the Tsumami, whatever criticisms he received, I don’t remember the MSM beating up on Bush. Did some media outlets attack him? Oh, I am sure, but listening to network television and the local news, I don’t remember them attacking Bush or if they did, it was quickly forgotten.

    While I think Obama has been a little slow on Libya, I think he has handled the Japanese situation well. He sent over an aircraft carrier and has said the U.S. will provide assistance where needed.

    If you want to dwell on past grievances, real or imagined, be my guest, the things I remember about the Tsumami coverage had little to do with Bush, and most of it was the positive help provided by the U.S. military. And yes, this is from the Media that you complain is so “liberal” and “biased” against Bush.

  • rdw56

    It sucks for everyone, even fools like you.

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    Actually NOT. I am a Reagan conservative who was with him in 1980 and through out. His intellectual defeat of liberalism is total. We have 70% tax rates in 1980 and he reduced them to 28%. That’s a stunning reduction of 42%. Obama by contrast could not rasie them even 1%. Not even on millionaires. Not even with huge majorities in both houses. That is a stunning ideological achievement. Reagan was by every definition a transformational President. Reagan changed how we think about govt, spending, taxation and our role for good in the world. He defeated socialism. What was the left in the 70′s is but a shadow of itself.

    What is even better I honestly think as good as Reagan was in promoting conservatism Obama could even be more effective. He is so clueless and inept he is setting back liberalism more than any current conservative could hope. Obama has endorsed and made the law of the land every single one of GWBs national security and defense policies. His pitiful stimulus bill has proven govt stimulus is a failure and now spending cuts have gained steam. Unions are getting crushed and it’s very likely liberal gems like NPR, PBS, Planned Parenthood, etc., will be totally defunded. With very few exceptions the nations governors have refused liberal prescriptions and are cutting taxes and spending in order to balance budgets. The tax gap between Texas and CA is at historic levels creating huge economic advantages for Texas.

    Obama is so inept he could not even close Gitmo. He didn’t even come close.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Very well put Hippo.

  • fhmadvocat

    Shepherdwong,

    It is a mistake to called Conservatives idiots and fools. To do only makes you look as intolerant as many Conservatives who are in Swampland.

    I think most Conservatives are sincere and except for some loudmouths, including some on this blog, they are good people. Their problem is that they are mostly misinformed and most are ignorant about history.

    In truth, Conservatives are scared people. They are fearful of an unknown world. They are people who like simple answers and would like to see the world in Black and White terms.

    Conservatives seem to view the world like most movies, the good guys versus the bad guys. In truth, the real world is very much different shades of gray.

    There is nothing wrong with wanting smaller government. There is nothing wrong with being concerned that the federal government is spending too much money. The issue is whether you can be smart in finding solutions or just repeating right-wing dogma.

    As far as being stupid and foolish, Conservatives don’t have a monopoly. I know plenty of Liberals who are as foolish and as stupid as some of the loudmouth Conservatives who get their name in the news.

    Don’t forget, neither side as all of the answers, and we live in a country that is center-right.

    Remember:

    “He who is not Liberal when young, has no heart. He who is not Conservative when old, has no brain.”
    -Winston Churchill

  • fhmadvocat

    Hey Meltdown,

    Last time I looked, the earthquakes were in Japan. And Katrina was in the United States. The Japanese have their own government, thank you very much. If they want our help, they just have to ask.

  • rdw56

    “Well, they trashed Bush, so now I am going to trash Obama.

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    I haven’t trashed Obama for golfing or his response to Japan at all. I am trashing the clowns who trashed Bush and are now trying to defend Obama for the same thing.

    There was a huge problem with the media and an excellent debate at the time on American largess after a very high ranking member of the UN called Bush and Americans stingy. Liberals of course agreed with him. Conservatives had him for lunch. He eventually apologized but it was far too late. Fox did an absolutely brilliant job reporting on the work of the US Navy and Marines in providing real relief while the UN was holed up in the capital doing nothing. At one point they tried to assume control of all rescue operations and via the Naval commander were told to stay out of our way.

    It’s well understood by Americans the UN is massively corrupt and inefficient. We do not mix our rescue operations or put ourselves under their command.

    It’s an event I think has been a disaster for the UN regarding US public opinion. They were already in the toilet and just fell further. They’ve also stayed there.

  • fhmadvocat

    richard,

    Let’s get our facts straight:
    1. Obama has never given Gaddafi military aid. The U.S. lifted the trade embargo-under Bush.
    2. Obama has not blocked arms to the rebels. The U.N. passed an arms embargo to Libya, which they are considering lifting.
    3. Obama has not blocked a no-fly zone. It is currently being debated at the U.N. and NATO. In NATO, the French are for a no-fly zone and the Germans are against it. The U.S. military is seriously considering it as we write.

  • shepherdwong

    Fools:

    Their problem is that they are mostly misinformed and most are ignorant about history.
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    In truth, Conservatives are scared people. They are fearful of an unknown world. They are people who like simple answers and would like to see the world in Black and White terms.
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    Conservatives seem to view the world like most movies, the good guys versus the bad guys. In truth, the real world is very much different shades of gray.

    Liars (professional Republicans don’t care one whit about these things):

    There is nothing wrong with wanting smaller government. There is nothing wrong with being concerned that the federal government is spending too much money.

    I forgot to mention one feature of the electorate, particularly independent swing voters: pathological non-partisanship. It is really to their credit that they simply cannot accept the ugly truth about some of their fellow countrymen.

  • rdw56

    I remember about the Tsumami coverage had little to do with Bush, and most of it was the positive help provided by the U.S. military. And yes, this is from the Media that you complain is so “liberal” and “biased” against Bush.

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    The media initially joined the chorus agreeing with our critics we are cheap. They still do this at times because they want more foreign aid funneled thru the govt. We don’t trust out govt to do a good job so we use private charities and NGOs more often. All of those supporting the “USA is Cheap” argument excluded the work of the military and private charities which the USA dominates. What blew them out of the water at the time of Indonesia was the compelling video for weeks of almost solely USA warships on station 24/7 especially compared to the UN. Fox ran them into the ground. When people like Charles Krauthammer and George Will went after the left for excluding so many contributions by americans the majority of americans were pissed. We’re watching out military work tirelessly, almost alone, and that doesn’t count? That’s fraudalent.

  • fhmadvocat

    In rely to 11.12

    rdw56,

    It is understandable, that like many conservatives, you have bought into the Reagan myth. And no, Conservatives are not unique, Liberals bought the Kennedy myth, hook, line and sinker. How else did a so-so President, who happened to be killed while in office get his portrait on a coin so soon after his death? Or that his brother, Bobby is lionized by Liberals, a guy who worked for Joseph McCarthy and ordered Hoover to spy on Martin Luther King?

    Reagan was transformative. He restored Americans faith in themselves and in their government. After Vietnam, and the failed presidencies of Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter, he was what the country needed as far as personality.

    His policies? Well, they were simply not as great as you think or as conservative as they have been portrayed.

    Yes, he lowered rates in his first year in office. However, Reagan signed into law or raised taxes ELEVEN times during the next seven years. He really raised taxes to shore up Social Security. For many workers, they pay more in social security taxes than they do income taxes.

    Federalism? Reagan forced all the states to have a uniform drinking age or they were threatened with a cut off of federal funding. Imagine if Obama attempted to do something similar? The Tea Party would be screaming! But is exactly what their patron saint Ronald Reagan did.

    Foreign policy? Here is where Reagan claimed his greatest triumph, the fall of Communism. The truth is that Communism fell because of Gorbachev. Until Gorbachev was elected, the Soviet Union ignored Reagan. As far as causing it to fall, the CIA predicted in the 1950s that the Soviet Union would not survive until the 1990s.

    Standing up to terrorism? Remember when the Marines were bombed in Lebanon? Reagan pulled them out. That was when Osama Bin Laden believed he learned that the U.S. would cut and run.

    What about Iran? Reagan claimed he would never bargain with terrorists, but that is exactly what he did, he gave arms to the Iranians while they were fighting Iraq in exchange of Hizbollah releasing Americans held hostage.

    Speaking of hostages, DO YOU REALLY THINK IT WAS A COINCIDENCE THAT THE AMERICANS HELD IN TEHRAN WERE RELEASED UNTIL THE DAY REAGAN WAS SWORN IN? In truth, the Reagan administation was in secret talks with the Iranian government and requested they not be released until that day, making Reagan look triumphant.

    The Deficit: Reagan quadupled the debt, much more than Obama. Remember Reagan promised he was going to balance the budget? As Dick Cheney said, “Reagan taught us deficits don’t matter.” That’s why anyone trusting the Republicans will actually do anything regarding the debt is only deluding themselves.

    As far as his economic policies, they have been good for the rich, but the middle class has been stagnant since he was in office. He set in motion the deregulation which has caused many of our economic problems in the past 30 years. Saving and Loan Scandal?

    If Obama did have the things Reagan did, the Tea Party would run him out of town. He raised taxes time and time again. He cut and run when confronted with terrorism and he made a deal with terrorists which only encouraged them. I guess the one positive is he gave lip service to social conservatives, but did nothing.

  • rdw56

    However, Reagan signed into law or raised taxes ELEVEN times during the next seven years. He really raised taxes to shore up Social Security. For many workers, they pay more in social security taxes than they do income taxes

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    Ok. lets try to be reasonably honest. SS taxes have nothing to do with Federal Income taxes (FIT). SS taxes are a retirement trust fund and RR raised taxes because it was going to go bankrupt. Reagan WASN”T about lowering FIT. He wanted to lower marginal tax rates to restore incentives to work and invest. He succeeded brilliantly. This was a HUGE chance both ideologically and practically and by that measure alone Reagan was transformative.

    Also note when it comes to marginal rate cuts he followed JFK and for the same reasons.

  • rdw56

    The truth is that Communism fell because of Gorbachev. Until Gorbachev was elected, the Soviet Union ignored Reagan.

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    The USSR fell because Reagan push them down. Gorbachev was an incompetent leader of an incompetent system of govt. As Reagan said in 1982 Socialism/marxism was going to end up in the ashbin of history. Gorby panicked because he knew Russia could not compete with the USSR economically or technologically. One of the coolest aspects of this period is the lines between liberals and conservatives were so clear and decisive. The Harvard crowd led by John Kenneth Galbraith were trashing RR saying socialism was a viable system and we needed to learn how to share the planet. Liberals wanted a truce in the cold war, a surrender. Reagan famously answered a reporter when asked, “:What’s your plan for the cold war?” “We win, they lose”. Liberals were outraged. How unsophisticated!!!

    You of course remember the backlash when he told Gprby to tear down the wall. Doesn’t that soundbite just piss you off? We have all of the records of the liberal reaction. Your boys were on the wrong side of history. Eureka kicked Harvard ass.

  • shepherdwong

    He wanted to lower marginal tax rates to restore incentives to work and invest. He succeeded brilliantly.
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    Yes, he succeeded brilliantly at shifting the tax burden drastically toward working class citizens and concentrating wealth into a relative handful of super-rich, all while putting ever-more government power into multi-national corporate hands, weakening workers rights and keeping our massive oil addiction strong for another generation.
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    fhmadvocat, can you see how attempting to reason with these people is like attempting to reason with a very small child? Do you understand what that means?

  • rdw56

    Yes, he succeeded brilliantly at shifting the tax burden drastically toward working class citizens and concentrating wealth into a relative handful of super-rich

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    Wrong. Tax collects became MORE progressive as the rich started paying higher proportions of total taxes paid. The rich didn’t make more. They declared more. Look at Warren Buffet, the wizzard of Omaha. Worlds 3rd richest man and biggest hypocrite. Warren famoulsy declares only $100K a year which angry his secretary pays more in taxes that he does. His recommendation, raise taxes on the Rich. Will Warren pay them. Not on your life. Warren is worth over $50B and has established trusts for his ex-wife and Kids for around $5B. So he’s made about $1B a year on average. Think this famous liberal advocate of high tax rates has any intention of paying them. NO FRIGGIN WAY. Warren has a $15M jet, $5M vacation home in CA and
    as you can imagine such a popular guy he gets invitations to spent as much time as any resort he wants.

    This is just one reason Obama with huge majorities could not raise taxes even 1%. People get the marxist class warfare is nonsense and Warren Buffet is a BS artist. They don’t hate rich people. They don’t think they’re evil nor did they exploit anyone. Bill Gates never forced anyone to buy a PC.

  • ohiolibb

    Your display of magical mind-reading powers aside, there’s at least one very good reason for not going into Libya. it’s called an overstretched, exhausted military. But hey, let’s just occupy another country with no plan, no money, and no clue. Sounds great!!

  • rdw56

    keeping our massive oil addiction strong for another generation.

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    RR was brilliant on this as well. He immediately deregulated and pulled Caters brain dead programs. The price of oil collapsed. It’s always been funny the term Oil is fingers on a blackboard to a liberal. It’s been one of the great discoveries of mankind. There would not be a tree left in North America is not for oil. Oil is a critical driver of our economy and as a result a creator of massive wealth. Moreover we are becoming more efficient in our usage every year as it takes a progressively small percentage of GDP each year. It’s also funny how liberals look at one of the greatest corporations in the history of Man. Exxon has been the best at exploration, techology and the development of oil properties for many decades. Every 10 years or so some liberal clown comes out with “Peak Oil” and libs get their hair on fire. Exxon has increased it’s reserves 24 of the last 25 years and with properties owned but no yet full evaluated will get to 29 of 30. Credit Exxon with much of the work on the fracking technology that’s leading to massive natural gas development in the USA. Let’s see what happens when so many landowners collecting lease checks from Natural Gas companies find out liberals want to tax fossil fuels. You got no shot.

  • rdw56

    The Deficit: Reagan quadupled the debt, much more than Obama.

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    Why on earth with $2.5T in deficits in two years would you want to compare Obama with anyone? One of the more comical efforts of the MSM to revise history is to state this has been the worst ecnomic period since the recession or as this clown did, the last100 years. Reagan has a sharp recession AND 10% inflation.

    The fact is Obama confirmed govt spending does not stimulate and Americans do not want him raising taxes to cover his outrageous spending. It’s a total loss for liberalism. To have been 25 in 1980 is to be 55 now. No memory of 70% tax rates but a hard opinion the concept is absurd. Obama can’t even get back to Clinton.

  • rdw56

    As far as causing it to fall, the CIA predicted in the 1950s that the Soviet Union would not survive until the 1990s.

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    really? what did they predict in the 60′s, 70′s, 80′s? Why would you want to go here. You know the liberals in the 1980s fought Reagan tooth and nail, disagreed with him on everything and claimed he was senile. The record is extensive. Dozens and dozens of liberal economists and academics of every stripe sided with Russia against Reagan. Fidel and Che were still hero’s. Socialism was a viable alternative. Who were we to push capitalism? The NYTs editoral board was wrong pretty much every day.

    For the record I don’t think RR did it by himself. He stood on the shoulders of a great many people before him. But in terms of the 80′s History has fully vindicated him and devastated his political enemies.

    Gorby was a putz. Russians despise him.

  • rdw56

    In truth, the Reagan administation was in secret talks with the Iranian government and requested they not be released until that day, making Reagan look triumphant.

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    Actually that is one of the coolest moments of the Reagan era. He did not negotiate with Iran nor interfere with Carter. The Iranians despised Carter and wanted to humiliate him. But I prefer the myth the Iranians were afraid of Reagan much better.

  • rdw56

    As far as his economic policies, they have been good for the rich, but the middle class has been stagnant since he was in office.

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    There are lies, damn lies and statistics Fortunately many of these stats are poorly crafted and not very effective. It’s very hard to tell the middle class wages have stagnated when in fact our buying power is so much higher. A PC in the early 80′s cost $7K and was pitiful compared to what we have now. Everything we have works better and is cheaper. we have 300 cable stations, 400 radio stations, airfare is dramatically cheaper, cell phones, etc..

    Attempts to diminish Reagan are silly and pointless. You cannot win.

  • liberalmeltdown

    Most of the time you can’t shut up the Teleprompter in Chief. He opines on every and any mundane issue that he can in order to have his face on TV.
    .
    When he should speak up as leader of the free world (last time I checked we are semi-free anyway) he’s got nothing to say. He’s investing in golf. Very funny.
    .
    Normally, no not, abnormally, you would hear the Teleprompter boasting about what his administration was doing for Japan, the nuclear reactors, the Middle East…it should be good for an hour a day. But we have silence.
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  • liberalmeltdown

    So, Obama should go play golf and STFU…hmmm. That’s a great idea!
    .

  • rdw56

    There are lots of reasons not to go inside Libya. But there are plenty of other options for helping the rebels. There was a complete leadership vacuum. Susan Rice missed the 1st two meetings at the UN. It looked as if Obama was waiting for someone else, anyone else, to lead.

    Again, I see a certain justice here. The same Europeans who cursed GWB for leading are cursing Obama for not leading.

  • hippooath

    “So, Obama should go play golf and STFU…hmmm. That’s a great idea!”
    .
    And you should tell your friend Newfreedom to STFU for implying that Obama had anything to do with it (Hmmm, who built the reactor and who is Obamas buddies….hmmmm). And Glenn Beck for implying that God had anything to do with it. Because Obama could dangle his scrotum in the popes face and insult the world less than what your tribe is doing right now by having the greatest and richest country in the world break the deep fearful breath everyone is taking by screaming ‘IN YOUR FACE HEATHENS!’
    .
    RDW thinks that this is a perfect time to play politics because liberals were mean to Bush.
    .
    I think this is a perfect time for me to say – you shame me. You and your monkey @ss brethren. You’re like that kid that runs around screaming in stores putting buggers on everything. The one everyone hates and if it was your kid you would flathand him or her. That’s what you guys are. You and your rightie tribals when you scream BOMB THEM about Libya or BOMB THEM to protect Mubarak. Or GOOD HATES THE RISING SUN.
    .
    So in your own words. STFU up and sit down in the short bus. Because you and your tribal idjuts do not represent the greatest thing we’re all about. You represent the loud noise and smell people make when we eat cabbage. Most of you are completely ignorant about the world. You hate unions and hate our education system but talk about ‘waiting for superman’ a documentary that pours GOBS of praise over the Finnish school system where every single person is part of the UNION.
    .
    WTF is wrong with people who reflexivly defend someone as dumb as Glenn because he’s your monkey?
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    I would NEVER defend a dumb@ss on the left when they say something idiotic.
    .
    Again – this is NOT about US. It’s about them. Their suffering, so put away the popcorn and brush your teeth, put on some fresh clothes and lets pretend that we’re grown ups. And not the fat bully who walks around kicking nerds until the nerd growns up, get an education, move into a large mansion, marries a hottie and then run your rusty truck over with a BULLDOZER.
    .
    We’re only going to be bullies for so long and the people we bully will remember when our great democracy lost it’s tarnished crown because we decided that the best way we can show sympathy is to sh!t in their back yard.
    .
    Yes. You heard me. Stop being a bugger eater, comb your hair and while I don’t expect you to ever care for Obama, at least keep your bullsh!t to yourself until the world starts breathing again.

  • hippooath

    “5% of the worlds people producing 25% of it’s GDP and 75% of it’s innovations. There is no denying American exceptionalism.

    I have to wonder what it was like for the French and Germans and other Europeans to watch events in Libya unfold with such a good shot at getting rid of a true lunatic and after 60 years of watching the US lead seeing Obama in inaction. Do they regret their snide behavior towards Bush understanding they lost the support of the American people permanently? They didn’t like the fact GWB didn’t follow their orders but he as least had a long dialogue, tried to do something positive, and worked hard at the UN and directly for their help. He took them seriously. Susan Rice didn’t even bother to attend the 1st two UN hearings on Libya. Obama has been almost silent waiting for them to lead.

    There is a certain level of poetic justice in that. Confident living under the blanket of security we provided for 50 years and then smearing us for the efforts GWB pulled out of Europe and the American people checked out. Interesting the MSM is barely even covering Europe. Under Bush we were not supposed to blink without clearing it with Europe. Today there is virtually no contact.”
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    Thanks for the mash potato.

  • hippooath

    “There are lots of reasons not to go inside Libya. But there are plenty of other options for helping the rebels. There was a complete leadership vacuum. Susan Rice missed the 1st two meetings at the UN. It looked as if Obama was waiting for someone else, anyone else, to lead.
    .
    Again, I see a certain justice here. The same Europeans who cursed GWB for leading are cursing Obama for not leading.”
    .
    Say what? The Europeans are cursing Obama not for leading them into Libya? Wow. You are one clueless puppy.

  • rdw56

    The Europeans are cursing Obama not for leading them into Libya

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    The Europeans were proposing using Nato to enforce a no fly zone until turkey said no.

  • rdw56

    what’s a mash potato

  • liberalmeltdown

    My, my that’s quite a rant there hippo. Most of it sounds very angry. Are you an angry white guy? You know that nobody cares about them. You want to flathand little kids, other people’s kids? I think that would be child abuse, or assault.
    .
    I have just learned and observed from my liberal friends to never waste a crisis, and I am just speaking truth to power, bro.
    .
    I simplified your lengthy and flowery statement. Made it more concise. I hope that you appreciate the effort it took.

  • lcky9

    Why would anyone be surprised LOOK at what an absent SENATOR he was.. he couldn’t handle that job for the two years he pretended to do it.. all he did was gather up support for a promotion.. now that he got it he’s doing what he does best.. LIVING LARGE.. OH.. he did pick out his basket ball picks .. that’s good isn’t it.. and SOOOOOOOOO IMPORTANT..

  • hattusilas

    Good call, Mr. Crowley, in spotting the Daley influence. Obama has squandered the global goodwill he rescued in his rapid pivot away from Mubarak and in favor of the Cairo rebels with the Saudi invasion of Bahrain, obviously authorized and encouraged by his administration. As much as Emanuel was disparaged as a foul-mouthed operative, ultimately he was a man of the people. The Daley faction beat protesters bloody in 1968 and Manama is the same thing but with deadly firepower. It’s a genocide of Shi‘a in the name of Big Oil and the divine right of kings, but when these monarchies ultimately fall the U.S. will have no writ in most of the Middle East. Every Shi‘a gunned down in Manama is shot with an American bullet. Obama just lost my vote in 2012. In fact, he should be hauled into The Hague and imprisoned for life.

  • rdw56

    Obama has squandered the global goodwill he rescued in his rapid pivot away from Mubarak and in favor of the Cairo rebels with the

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    What are you babbling about. He made a fool of himself. He backed the thug and the thug lost.

  • rdw56

    There is no fly zone without the USA. This is the great lesson to the French and Germans for stabbing us in the back on Iraq. There is no support in the USA for France or Germany. Unlike in Kosovo where there was an interest in supporting Europe in solving a humanitarian crises there is no interest in assisting Europe and a lot less in stopping a muslim civil war. If Europe wants to be influencial they can pay for their own military. They can now see what it’s like to have a superpower on your side who won’t play the role. Obama should be leading. He’s been invisible.

  • newfreedomblog

    I think we have finally pushed one of the libtards over the edge. 1 down, a few dozen to go.

  • hippooath

    “My, my that’s quite a rant there hippo. Most of it sounds very angry. Are you an angry white guy? You know that nobody cares about them. You want to flathand little kids, other people’s kids? I think that would be child abuse, or assault.
    ..
    I have just learned and observed from my liberal friends to never waste a crisis, and I am just speaking truth to power, bro.
    ..
    I simplified your lengthy and flowery statement. Made it more concise. I hope that you appreciate the effort it took”
    .
    I’m sorry. Did what I write overload your pavlovian gag reflex? Then let me keep it simple – you learned from Liberals? So in your words – liberals made you be an @sshole?
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    I guess that’s probably the dumbest excuse for being one that I’ve ever heard.

  • hippooath

    “I think we have finally pushed one of the libtards over the edge. 1 down, a few dozen to go.”
    .
    Thats the sum of why you’re here right? To stir the pot and p!ss people off.
    .
    Don’t worry about my sanity. Worry about your own.

  • thegreataardvark

    When Obama wins America loses. Obama is a complete failure as President. He has exhibited a lack of leadership in the Middle East crisises and his foregin policy is so lacking that Hillary Clinton has virtually resigned in advance.

    Obama is a Marxist who does not have America’s best interests in mind. His goal is to become the leader of a one world government, which can’t happen if America remains a superpower.

    That’s why our deficit is alowed to run amock. Destructive energy policies contribute to high gas prices and Obamacare threatens to permanently derail an economy that already has one foot in the grave.

    Obama seeks the approval of the fastest demographic group in the world (Muslims) along with the ever present uninformed populace in America that know more about Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan than Moammar Gaddafi or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    If Obama is re-elected in 2012 you can be assured that America will suffer irreversible and permanent change, and take a step backwards toward the Dark Ages

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