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Haley Barbour Steps Out

Ben Smith correctly identifies the first sort of interesting event in the Republican presidential primary race: Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour has had enough of Afghanistan and wants to start drawing down troops. No details about how many and when, of course–and, in the end, Barbour’s timetable may not be all that different from Obama’s, which, I expect will have lots of troops coming home next year. But this is Haley Barbour, folks–and we know two things about him: he’s not the world’s boldest policy thinker and he’s probably the smartest political strategist in the field. When Barbour decides that Afghanistan is a loser, you can bet that more than a few Republicans are heading that way–and that means interesting times for the trigger-happy neoconservatives who have dominated Republican foreign policy thinking in recent years. It also means that the foreign policy debate in the Republican primaries may be a real eye-opener.

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  • afguy

    Boy, that headline is misleading…
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    When I first saw it, the first thing I thought was “out of the closet”… “Boss Hogg’s” gay???
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    Alas…. NOT!
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    He’s just come to his senses regarding Afghanistan.

  • abdullah69

    Political spin at its finest. Save the cost of a war in Afghanistan to reduce the budget deficit, blame Obama for losing the war but at the same time preserve the cashflow to the GOP from the defence contractors who are the real GOP constituency. Anyone who believes American democracy is for, by and on behalf of the people is stupid.

  • kbanginmotown

    According to the right, it’s Obama’s war, now. Ergo, it’s OK, now, to criticize / pullout / etc, etc.

  • Cliff

    he’s probably the smartest political strategist in the field
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    Has Fatty McRacist really been a kingmaker all this time and somehow I missed it?
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    I don’t understand where the fellatio is coming from. Why don’t I recall Barbour running for President before, or advising any campaigns?

  • apr2563

    Joe, that’s a pretty sweeping statement. Can you give us examples about Barbour’s prowess as a political strategist? So far he and his aids have made one gaff after another. Remember, he never saw any segregation problems when he was growing up in Mississippi. Of course, coming across as an unrependent Jim Crow advocate could be intentional.
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    http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20110316/OPINION01/103160309/Barbour-Race-shakedown-cruise?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CHome%7Cs
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    The jokes by now-ex spokesman Dan Turner were honestly in bad taste. After all, when bodies are washing up on shore in Japan and hundreds of thousands of people are dispossessed and an entire nation fearing a fate worse than Chernobyl, it’s hard to make light of it. The other jokes, about former U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno’s femininity and Cambodia genocide, were just crude and dumb.

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/20/haley-barbour-civil-rights_n_799365.html
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    In his interview with The Weekly Standard, Barbour heaps praise on the pro-segregation Citizens Council, which he credits with integrating the Yazoo City public schools without any violence.
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    Robert Mickey, an associate political science professor at the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, said that Barbour is correct in asserting that the Citizens Councils were often against Klan organizations forming in their communities. It wasn’t, however, to promote racial integration; instead, they were concerned that such groups would spoil the economic environment, and in turn, Citizens Councils used economic intimidation to further segregation.

  • freekeir

    ha, me too. More’s the pity, that would have thrown an awesome spanner in the works.

  • gysgt213

    Glad you pointed this out to Joe. But then again Joe is the one who thinks Newt is extremely intelligent.

  • Matt

    Haley may be thinking he’s taking a shot at President Obama, but he is really standing in opposition to decades of Republican ideology and repudiating the entire Bush presidency. I doubt Barbour is even sure of what he;s saying…
    http://www.sunstateactivist.org

  • gysgt213

    Below is what Govorner Barbour said according to Ben Smith.
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    “He also said that the U.S. should consider reducing the number of troops in Afghanistan. “I think we need to look at that,” he said when asked if the U.S. should scale back its presence.
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    But he said his reasoning isn’t financial.
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    “What is our mission?” Barbour said. “How many Al Qaeda are in Afghanistan. … Is that a 100,000-man Army mission?”
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    “I don’t think our mission should be to think we’re going to make Afghanistan an Ireland or an Italy” or a Western-style democracy, he said.”
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    About the defense dept.
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    “Anybody who says you can’t save money at the Pentagon has never been to the Pentagon,” the Mississippi governor said. “We can save money on defense and if we Republicans don’t propose saving money on defense, we’ll have no credibility on anything else.”
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    It doesn’t sound to me like Governor Barbour has had enough of Afghanistan or has any plans on defense cuts. That Afghanistan is a loser. Instead it sounds to me from his words he still has a lot of questions and rightly so. But why does he get points for saying any of this is beyond me.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    I said a few days ago, that one of the side benefits of having a Democratic President is that it causes Republicans to think twice about their full-throated support for wars and interventions. As far as I’m concerned, that’s the number one reason to vote “D”.

  • newfreedomblog

    How many of your “(D’s)” declared war in our 230+ year history?
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    Have a nice day!!

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Many. That’s why I prefer it when the Republicans are the opposition as opposed to the cheerleaders.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    There’s always been a libertarian/anti-intervention wing of the Republican party, led by Ron Paul Sr. With the rise of the Tea party and the presence of a Democrat with a war on his hands in the White House, they are actually beginning to get some notice.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    correctly identifies the first sort of interesting event in the Republican presidential primary race
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    Man. You must hate your colleagues who post at this blog, then.

  • np042

    How many of your “(D’s)” declared war in our 230+ year history?
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    Have a nice day!!

    This is idiotic even for you, Rusty. Nevermind, of course, that the “D’s” as we know them have not existed for all those 230+ years, but I’d start by saying 333 (link) at the very least.

  • sacredh

    “Barbour’s timetable may not be all that different from Obama’s”

    It’s time for another “Death Hug” thread.

  • notfooledbydistractions

    Sorry, Barbour is a social neanderthal, and Mississippi is a cesspool of failure – I don’t need a third strike to eliminate barbour from consideration.

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