Obama to States: If You Can Do Health Reform Better, Go For It

In a speech to governors, President Obama just endorsed a plan to allow states to opt out of major provisions of the Affordable Care Act just as it’s set to kick in. Saying he recognizes that not everyone is a member of the “Affordable Care Act fan club,” Obama said, “I agree with Mitt Romney that…states should have the power to implement their own solutions.”

The plan Obama endorsed, first proposed back in November by Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden and Republican Sen. Scott Brown, would give states flexibility to design their own versions of health reform. States could buck many aspects of the federal approach, including the individual mandate, employer requirements, health insurance exchanges and the federal design for insurance policies. Under this system, states would receive their share of insurance subsidies and administrative funding in blocks to implement their own reforms. In order to be granted a waiver to do this, a state would need to show its plan would:

* not increase the federal deficit
* provide insurance to as many people as the ACA
* provide insurance as least as comprehensive as that called for in the ACA
* provide insurance that’s just as affordable

While Obama is proposing the state opt-out plan now in order to appear responsive to Republican governors complaining about the ACA, the “Waiver for State Innovation” is already a part of the health reform law. It’s just now slated to become an available option for states in 2017. The Wyden-Brown plan – also championed by Democratic Sen. Mary Landreiu – would move that date back to 2014. That’s the year most the ACA is scheduled to begin.

According to the New York Times:

[Administration] officials said Congressional bill writers picked the 2017 date after the Congressional Budget Office said it would take three years of experience to determine how much a state should receive in unrestricted block grants if it opted out of aspects of the law. Otherwise, the budget analysts advised last year, the legislation’s 10-year cost estimate would be about $4 billion higher because Washington would probably have to make higher-than-needed payments to states.

The administration officials said they had not yet discussed where to find an additional $4 billion, but described it as “not a lot of money” when compared with the estimated $1 trillion, 10-year cost of the law. They said they had not yet consulted with Congressional leaders to map a strategy for enacting the amendment.

As I wrote in November, there’s no guarantee Republicans governors will embrace this 2014 opt-out waiver plan, which would have to pass through Congress to become law:

Aside from the political implications of endorsing a plan championed by a Democratic leader on health reform – even if he is in cahoots with a Republican from a blue state – some on the right might balk at the Wyden-Brown plan on the grounds that it’s still an expensive expansion of government. The Wyden-Brown plan, after all, does not – as far as I can tell – spend any less money than the ACA without a state opt-out. On the contrary, it may cost more.

The Wyden-Brown plan also does not impact the huge Medicaid expansion called for in the ACA, which Republicans vehemently oppose. It doesn’t eliminate taxes on expensive health insurance plans, or fees levied on medical devices or pharmaceuticals.

Another catch: The Wyden-Brown plan only allows states to opt out if they have a good plan for how to undertake comprehensive health care reform on their own. Most states don’t have such a plan. Massachusetts, which enacted reform in 2007, obviously does, which is why Brown was a logical co-sponsor of the opt-out bill. California, Connecticut and Vermont are three other states that are on their way toward developing health care reform inside their borders. But red states – especially southern states – are among those least equipped to design and implement reform that could accomplish what the ACA attempts to do, as they typically have higher percentages of uninsured residents and looser insurance regulation.

Related Topics: affordable care act, individual mandate, mary landrieu, medicaid, Ron Wyden, scott brown, Health Care
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  • nflfoghorn

    So he’s saying I’ll give you what you’ve already got. Funny.

  • newfreedomblog

    The continuing saga of walking back ObamaCare. How lovely. LOL

  • newfreedomblog

    Oh, and when you see this type of posting at TIME.com, especially from Pickert, it is the usual spin offered to her from the White House.
    .
    What it does speak towards is the continued decline in polling of support for and against ObamaCare. This is obvious the White House in agreeing with Romney have made a major political move to distance as best they can from ObamaCare for the 2012 election.

  • earljr1

    November elections were a HUGE shock to Obama and the liberals, newfreedom. Obamacare is toxic medicine and they know it. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/02/16/how-vulnerable...
    Appointing Donald Berwick only compounded the mistake. The American people will never accept rationed health care and spin it as they might, this is what Berwick and Obamacare bring to the table.

  • nflfoghorn

    Hate to break yo guys’ little nirvana but there’s nothing in there that states he was backtracking. He simply said that if the states have a better plan *that is more efficient than the current federal one* then the state can implement it. It still has to meet the stated criteria of ACA.

  • nflfoghorn

    yo guys = you guys (though the former sounds hipper ;) )

  • freeinpa

    “* not increase the federal deficit
    * provide insurance to as many people as the ACA
    * provide insurance as least as comprehensive as that called for in the ACA
    * provide insurance that’s just as affordable
    .
    The ACA doesn’t meet the requirement of the ACA Obama has in his mind

  • rm11

    “The American people will never accept rationed health care . . ..”

    They already accept it. Almost by definition, the free market IS a rationing system. Or, as the textbooks more politely put it, a system by which goods and services are allocated among consumers. The rationing is done on the basis of price — supply and demand — and, as it is, about a sixth of the population is rationed out of the system.

  • allthingsinaname

    “But red states – especially southern states – are among those least equipped to design and implement reform that could accomplish what the ACA attempts to do, as they typically have higher percentages of uninsured residents and looser insurance regulation.”
    .
    I wonder why?

  • libssd

    Thank you, rm11, for pointing out the obvious. We have the most expensive healthcare system in the world, not the best (unless you are well enough connected through employment or wealth to take advantage of it). By most measures, the American health care system ranks near the bottom of industrialized countries. Great health care is available if you can afford it.

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    earl, I agree with you–I won’t accept rationed care. But what do you think it is when my insurance company refuses to pay for a procedure because it is “experimental” or it costs too much or … pick your excuse for why insurance companies deny treatment. Those excuses are nothing more rationing designed to maximize the profits of the insurance giants.
    .
    And speaking of health care rationing. I suppose what Jan Brewer did in AZ, cutting nearly 100 people in need of organ transplants from AZ Access, was not rationing.

  • vstillwell

    Can we opt out the southern states from this country while we’re at it? Now that would be a win win for all of us.

  • earljr1

    To rm11 and libssd, yet the vast majority of Americans are quite happy with their health care, new CNN poll finds that more than 80% of Americans are satisfied with the quality of their health care. And even after all the media-hyped whining about capitalism …
    http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/03/poll-most-americans...
    And here is another news flash for you…..96% of those polled say they both like and trust their doctor. Good luck on being
    able to choose your doctor with the advent of Obamacare.
    erie, you raise the VERY points we are contesting. Under Obamacare, the Insurance companies will be calling virtually ALL the shots and the physician will be pushed to the sideline. We are able to win around 90% of our appeals now, if coverage has been denied. This will change appreciably with Obamacare. This is rationed health care at its worst and we are fighting tooth and nail to stop this insult in its tracks. Docs4PatientCare.org.

  • paulejb

    Obama recognizes the inevitable. ObamaCare is never going to be completely implemented. So he is passing the buck to the states.

  • earljr1

    erie, what Jan Brewer did (and as distasteful as it might seem) is called assuming fiscal responsibility. If Arizona were to bankrupt, the few hundred people denied would multiply ten fold. Other critical services such as ER’s, home nursing, dialysis, police and fire departments, would be cut to the bone.
    The citizens of Arizona would ALL lose, not just a few hundred.

  • robbert5

    Earljr1,
    this is not to be meant snarky, but I dont get your point. On the one hand you say you are against rationing but on the other hand you are for it. When it is done by insurance companies you don’t seem to care for it but when it is done by (state) government you are okay with it? If so, when federal government rations care under the guise of fiscal responsibility, rations care, you will also support that?
    ..
    Again an honest question, because it seems to me that you are contradicting yourself but I can be wrong.

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20032114-503544.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody
    .
    It does not appear as if Earl, (the man who is 37, 38 and 39 years old all at the same time) Paulie or Rusty represent mainstream views right now.

  • earljr1

    Robert, Unless we get our fiscal house in order, rationed care may be the only alternative. We are not there, yet, not by a long shot.
    The folly of Obamacare was that it was supposed to control cost and in this respect, it has failed, miserably. Premiums continue to escalate and no one can predict the final cost to this turkey. What we do know, Robert, is that it will lead you into rationed care, regardless of your sentiments.
    Remember, 86% of Americans were happy with their health care and 96% liked and trusted their doctor. Should they be penalized to satisfy the 14% who were unhappy?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Premiums continue to escalate and no one can predict the final cost to this turkey.”
    .
    Earl,
    .
    This is why I am nearly positive that you are a high school dropout.
    .
    Premiums have been escalating for decades under private ownership and the rate of escalation is lower than before
    .
    If you are not an extreme elitist bordering on fascist the private sector “Turkey” has to get paid for by everybody or as close to everybody as possible.
    .
    I know you intend to misrepresent it, but, unless the rates for a single, healthy individual goes down, I intend to pay $2,500 in additional taxes plus $100 per visit at one visit per year rather than pay for private insurance. I know, according to your distorted world paying a total of about $2,600 for 30 minutes with a doctor and, in a worse case scenario, amoxicillin for an ear infection is called gaming the system but most people would call it paying $2,550 for $50 worth of health care to pay my share.
    .
    I would be far happier if we had the public option and would gladly pay even more for that but people like you ruined it for people like me.
    .
    Your description of the health care debate is like debating with a nine year old.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “The ACA doesn’t meet the requirement of the ACA Obama has in his mind.”
    .

    The ACA doesn’t provide insurance to as many people as the ACA?
    .
    The ACA doesn’t provide insurance as least as comprehensive as that called for in the ACA?
    .
    The ACA doesn’t provide insurance that’s just as affordable as the ACA?
    .
    You know, Freak, making sense once in awhile would be very refreshing.
    .
    Please try it sometime.

  • earljr1

    Patrick, there is no need for personal insults. You disagree with me and that is fine, I have no problem with that.
    The higher cost, patrick, has more involved than just premiums. Obama’s deal with big Pharma (no price competition) has greatly escalated drug prices and the overall cost of maintaining health. States are strapped, financially and can ill afford the mandates imposed by Obamacare. All in all, the bill has failed to curb cost, it has only escalated them. Rationed care is NOT what the American public wants and the more it is imposed, the louder the outcry will be.
    This is one perspective and I expect yours to be entirely different. Back to work now…no rest for the weary.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Patrick, there is no need for personal insults.”
    .

    Don’t believe it? Wait and see. Your resolution for this new year should be SERIOUS dieting. You are becoming morbidly obese, and this doctor can give you a whole myriad of reasons why this is detrimental to your health. Come on, , for the COUNTRY’S sake, because you will end up costing us ALL more money. You refuse to buy insurance, so this means your impending diabetes (if not already prevalent) will increase your myopia, raise your blood pressure and ultimately put your garrulous, gluttonous body into heart failure and the tax payer will bear the burden of saving your worthless hide. Yes, indeed…ALL mouth and totally incapable of escaping his miserable, lonely existence….I really do feel some empathy (actually, not much) for you…no self respecting person should end up living your kind of life.
    show the magnitude of their astonishing ignorance., I would not try and influence you in any shape, form or fashion. You are an embittered old man with a really nasty disposition and spend HOURS on end camped out on swampland because you have NOTHING better to do. You are both a drain on society and make NO viable contribution whatever…very typical of your liberal mindset, expecting others to do what you are incapable of doing…an honest days work. Get a life, both of you. You will get no further response from me, because unlike the two of you, I have very important work to do and my first case begins at 7 am. (not to rub it in 53, but I made WAY more than 200k last year and I am only 39) Just goes to show what a good education and high motivation can do.
    Just to visualize a roly poly fat blob trying to climb over the ropes (he’s too fat to go under them) is downright hilarious! I see you are camped out on swampland as usual. Most self respecting Americans are at work now, but then again, NO ONE would ever call you respectable, would they, you freeloader. I would like to trade a few more insults with you, fat boy, but my students are waiting for me to make rounds. Have a good, nonproductive day, you miserable loser.
    you are not only fat, but look like a pervert she saw posted on the wall at our post office. Could it be you, fatboy? I wouldn’t doubt it for a minute. Your hair keeps disappearing, fatpatrick…you do know this could be indicative of a circulatory disorder don’t you? There is a good chance you are impotent, or soon will be and would also explains why women avoid any relationship with you (other than just being downright creepy) Give it up, doughboy, you are simply an ugly loser……period!
    Well, jerkface, so much for friendly advice and btw, if you think genetic markers are the most reliable way to determine diabetes, you are in for one heck of a surprise. Massive weight gain (and that is you, fat boy) IMMEDIATELY raises the red flag on diabetic suspicion. Now, for the laugh of the day ” I have no trouble getting women’s phone numbers”…. RIGHT……and pigs can fly, too. Obese, myopic, bald and ugly…..I’m sure the ONLY women you get, fatpatrick, are the times square hookers you buy with your unemployment checks and I would imagine they work very hard to suppress their gag reflexes when they agree to give you a quickie. What a disappointment you must have been to your parents….you have FAILURE written all over your ugly mug. Now go back to being unproductive because you do it so well. I am done with your astonishing stupidity.

    I think a cage full of Monkeys could have done a better job and it probably would have made more sense.
    Who, in their right mind, would have left the insurance companies in charge of allocating health care and
    …..this poorly designed legislation needs to be redesigned, retooled and completely redone by mature adults with more than “victory” etched in their foolish minds.
    Go back to smoking your happy weed, perhaps it will make you forget the pain you may be experiencing and be sure to thank your democratic legislators for getting you into this mess.
    Yes, indeed, a few more entitlement programs and we will soon be on the road to recovery.
    Actually, the commander in “thief” stands guilty of stealing one of the principles providing a foundation for our country. A nation RESPONSIVE to the will of the people.

    they would like NOTHING better.
    I, too, am amazed at the arrogance these people possess. They are SO quick in telling anyone who listens just how smart they are, but the reality of fact escapes them every time.
    Delusional daydreamers would be an appropriate description for most of them.
    Not exactly “listening to the will of the people”, is it,? Nor does it serve the people in the manner it was intended. Constitutional? probably not, but our commander in thief could care less. He owns this monstrosity and it could well be his Waterloo in 2012. (we can only hope!)
    Extremely appropriate, I would say. A bill written by comedians, reduced to a comic book format.
    It is the ONLY way their democratic constituents have ANY chance of understanding. (that they have been royally screwed)
    In their haste to proclaim “victory” at any cost, they have saddled the American public with a mish mash of legislation that leaves millions uninsured and drives up the premiums for everyone else.
    I suggest “falsepromisecare” or “weliedcare” or perhaps “Obamasuckscare” or “keepdreamingcare”, or even “insurance companieswincare”.
    Finally, “itwontworkcare” and I think all provide a better description of this moronic legislation dumped on the American public by power hungry democratic politicians.
    I see has cashed his welfare check and once again, is camped out on swampland being non productive (as usual)
    You give entitlement a bad name I know people with your condition, paranoid personality disorder, that manage to remain gainfully employed.
    Are you just lazy?
    Yes indeed, a textbook explanation of PPD and you DO know that you consistently display at least six of those symptoms, don’t you? Time to seek help, this handicap can ruin your life if left untreated.
    I notice you have lost some more hair and gained a few more pounds. Your jowl’s are pendulous and actually jiggle when you talk.
    Look on the bright side, though…you just might parlay those extra pounds into a seasonal Santa job at Macy’s!
    Oh, how funny. Just how patronizing can be. smooooth.
    Here is what I find hard to believe, that an old, pot smoking druggie like you actually taught our children at one point in your psychedelic career.There is no estimating the amount of damage you inflicted with your narrow minded perspective on life and world events. I would imagine your license was suspended when your history of drug use finally unfolded.
    your ignorance is appalling.
    You have already stated that you DO NOT plan to purchase insurance, so, as usual, you will continue to scam the system.
    but you fall all over your fat self in trying to make it wrong.
    If you actually PAID taxes, you would understand the concerns we have about Obamacare.
    Trouble dealing with truth,? If a different perspective is offered, it obviously makes you uncomfortable….but crapping on the furniture?
    Come on, you are better than this. Don’t be so rigid
    What have YOU accomplished in life except sponge off the taxpayer? (Just like your son, you really did a lousy job of raising this cretin, you know)
    you breezed right by the mental retardation part.
    Take you away from google and you would find your self totally incapable of communicating. You are a social misfit, a loner and a totally forgettable character.
    Failed student
    Failed taxi driver
    Army and police department reject (I suspect mental issues)
    Failed security guard
    Failed rental booking agent (because he sits on his fat butt all day and refuses to work)
    And most disheartening, failed at relationships. (any number of reasons here, but most notably, lousy personality, obesity and acute paranoia)
    Face up to it, you are simply a loser.
    And you, , are not biased, hostile and narrow minded one bit, are you? You NEVER unleash a barb, too.
    You are what you are, a washed up old pot smoking hippy with a nasty disposition (and mouth) and I am sure, a completely dull and boring person.
    You are such a dunce I see the conservatives (and some of the liberals) are ripping you to shreds, as usual. You are over matched, fatboy, so why don’t you call it a day and ingest a few more cheeseburgers
    Speaking of history, how long has this strain of paranoia been carried by your family?
    What a MAJOR disappointment you must have been to your parents. A failure at every single undertaking. How sad.
    Facts and logic have reduced to a quivering mass of protoplasm.
    Great job, rdw56, your patience in dealing with this windbag is certainly commendable. The more logic you provide, the more verbose and incoherent he becomes. (typical liberal) When he starts hurling insults, you know you have him on the ropes. It then becomes a matter of out lasting him.
    Once again…outstanding work.
    You have effectively muted their voices with concise precision by bring sound judgment and logical reasoning to refute their liberal ideology.
    No wonder they want you, banished from their playground. is a little testy because conservatives have been raining on the liberal’s little party, The biggest upset of course, is actively challenging their warped and misinformed ideology.
    How dare we, say the ideologues, question their self professed “superior intelligence”, and do this when they
    have mind locked individuals spouting their ignorance in practically every post.
    Sorry, we are not going away. Your political persuasion will have to share the platform and I know this is causing you much angst. Get use to it, or here is a suggestion that is very fond of using…STFU!

    Point well made?? only someone as dumb, or dumber than patrick, would understand his inanity.
    Must be a tough day for a loser like you,…….no, I forgot, May I also say, she is EXACTLY what you deserve.

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    LOL!
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    That’s like bin Laden saying that there is no need for violence.
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    The point being, costs of ACA are already below what the projected premiums were at the rate they were going hence, relative to going with out Nixoncare, aka Dolecare, aka Romneycare, aka Obamacare aka ACA we have, as a nation, already made minor savings
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    So, if you say that ACA is expensive compared to costs of days gone by, compared to Socialized medicine or an imaginary and arbitrary ideal, that’s fine. But relative to no course of action taken at all it is cheaper.
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    Living in the real world, I do not compare real costs to days gone by or to imaginary costs.
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    But if you turned arournd 180 degrees and want the German system instead, we could agree on many things since the German system is the most efficient.

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