A Grand Bargain? You Show Me Yours…

Showing a little leg on deficit reduction is a highly risky proposition these days: display the scantest hint of skin and you risk losing a limb. The ink was still drying on the final edition of the Wall Street Journal‘s Thursday story detailing a grand bipartisan plan for deficit reduction when the angry missives began. Grover Norquist fired off a letter to the three Republican senators participating in the talks – Oklahoma’s Tom Coburn, Idaho’s Mike Crapo and Georgia’s Saxby Chambliss – accusing them of treachery. “I urge you to reject this so-called ‘deal’ which is little more than a transparent attempt to hike taxes and put off the spending restraint the country so clearly called for in the 2010 elections,” Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform, wrote.

Just hours later, the trio responded with a defense the negotiations. “Proposals that simplify the tax code, broaden the base, lower all individual and corporate tax rates, and make our corporate tax code more competitive for U.S. business will create a surge in economic growth,” they wrote.

The gang of six – Coburn, Crapo and Chambliss along with Democrats Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Illinois’ Dick Durbin and Mark Warner of Virginia — have actually been meeting for months, but the episode shows how hard it will be for both sides to join hands and jump together into a public debate. If Social Security reform is the most politically radioactive issue in American politics, then overhauling Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, defense budgets, discretionary spending and taxes all at once is akin to throwing oneself into a nuclear reactor. If you come out glowing, it’s rarely in a good way.

Looming deficits will take drastic action to fix and the sacred cows, entitlements and defense chief among them, will have to be slaughtered. A successful grand bargain will require both parties to expend their combined political capital. Success promises mutual benefit, while failure ensures mutual destruction.

Earlier this week, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said “entitlement reform will not be done except on a bipartisan basis with presidential leadership,” a signal that he’s unwilling to take action without President Obama making the first move. But the President has taken a wait-and-see attitude as well, declining to mention serious entitlement reform in his 2012 budget. When asked about this, Obama said: “This is not a matter of ‘You go first’ or ‘I go first.’ This is a matter of everybody having a serious conversation about where we want to go and then ultimately getting in that boat at the same time so it doesn’t tip over. And I think that can happen.”

Yet within Obama’s inner circle, there is little interest  in putting out a fixed proposal for entitlement reform only to to see it criticized from the left and picked apart by Republicans. Instead, the President is hoping for a repeat of the backroom negotiations that led to a tax break deal in December of last year. And most important of all, Obama’s aides want to make sure that the President comes out of debate over entitlement reform as one of the adults in the room, someone who is willing to compromise and willing to work hard to solve problems, even if he is not urgently driving the process.

That leaves Congress in the driver’s seat for the time being. The process split is in two. House Republicans have said they plan on including entitlement reform and deficit reduction measures in their 2012 budget that is due out in April. “Our budget will lead where the President has failed,” House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican, said in a joint statement with GOP leaders. “It will include real entitlement reforms so that we can have a conversation with the American people about the challenges we face and the need to chart a new path to prosperity.”

In the Senate, Conrad is leading his gang of six. The group is hoping to circulate a draft of their proposals next month to more than 40 senators who have expressed interest in the talks. According to a senior Democratic Senate aide, they are considering two legislative options. One is to attach the deal to a bill to raise the debt ceiling expected at the end of April or early May. The other option is to add whatever deal is reached to the budget, as is his prerogative as chairman of that committee. If Conrad and Ryan, who are personal friends, can hammer out an agreement between the two budget committees on deficit reduction, the package could be passed in the Senate with just 51 votes under a privileged budget resolution process called “reconciliation.”

Though the White House has been careful not to get too involved in the process, they have drawn a few lines in the sand. The administration would prefer not to see any agreement attached to the debt ceiling measure, Office of Management and Budget director Jacob Lew told reporters Thursday. And it wants to see Congress deal with Social Security separately. “It is essentially a parallel issue and it’s important for it not to be confused with either contributing to the problem or a central part of the solution,” Lew said.

Negotiators in Congress are looking at Bill Clinton’s 1997 Balanced Budget Act, which was negotiated with then-Speaker Newt Gingrich, and the 1984 Deficit Reduction Act as models. Both passed under reconciliation and both included triggers, measures that impose specific austerity measures when a predetermined spending level is reached. But both pieces of legislation were later criticized by some fiscal conservatives for including tax hikes. This time around, Conrad and Ryan are looking to the blueprint left in December by the deficit reduction commission on which they both served. The commission recommended an overhaul of the tax system that would bring in $180 billion in new revenue over the next 10 years, a bitter pill for the Tea Party set to swallow, and $1.7 trillion in spending reductions that would be equally hard for Democrats to stomach. Bringing about those major changes would take not only Conrad and Ryan, but Obama, McConnell and House Speaker John Boehner to show a great deal of good faith. It remains unclear who will be willing to make that display first.

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  • apr2563

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/opinion/18krugman.html
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    Krugman says:
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    Notice that I said “health care,” not “entitlements.” People in Washington often talk as if there were a program called Socialsecuritymedicareandmedicaid, then focus on things like raising the retirement age. But that’s more anti-Willie Suttonism. Long-run projections suggest that spending on the major entitlement programs will rise sharply over the decades ahead, but the great bulk of that rise will come from the health insurance programs, not Social Security.

    What would real action on health look like? Well, it might include things like giving an independent commission the power to ensure that Medicare only pays for procedures with real medical value; rewarding health care providers for delivering quality care rather than simply paying a fixed sum for every procedure; limiting the tax deductibility of private insurance plans; and so on.

    And what do these things have in common? They’re all in last year’s health reform bill.

    if you’re serious about the deficit, you should be willing to consider closing at least part of this gap with higher taxes. True, higher taxes aren’t popular, but neither are cuts in government programs. So we should add to the roster of fundamentally unserious people anyone who talks about the deficit — as most of our prominent deficit scolds do — as if it were purely a spending issue.

  • lupercal5

    1.7 trillions in cuts vs 180 billions in new revenue.
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    this probably is a typo.

  • jeriv

    I hope so!

  • gysgt213

    The main reason for the large current budget deficits is the downturn caused by the collapse of the housing bubble. Now a lot of teh elite are trying to convince us commoners no one could have seen the housing bubble coming, no knew about the fraud and no one is apparently responsible for it either. We couldn’t fire people, couldn’t cut bonuses and we couldn’t put anyone in jail. All we could was bail them out with our tax dollars.
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    The main driver of the deficit over the longer term is health care costs. If we paid the same amount per person for health care as any other wealthy country and negotiated drug prices would we probably would not be facing future budget deficits.
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    Raising the retirement age is a huge cut to everyone paying into Social Security. Its already been done. Twice. And here we are again.

  • newfreedomblog

    “But the President has taken a wait-and-see attitude, hardly mentioning entitlement reform in his 2012 budget.

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    This is what this President, our “dear” Leader does with everything. Wait.
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    Wait until the polls show which side he should fall into.
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    Wait until the pressure is so great that he does not have any other choice.
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    Wait until his advisers can make up their minds.
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    Wait until the cows come home, and then he isn’t sure of what to do.
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    This is exactly what I was saying WAAAAAAAY back before this idiot was even elected President.
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    No experience, no integrity, no honesty, NObama!!!

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    The problem in a nutshell is quite simple. The Republicans are liars and can’t be trusted. They’ve lied to their constituents about where the problems come from, they’ve demonstated zero actual concern for defecit spending and they’re able to use a reputation created during the Johnson years to shift blame for the problem onto the Democrats.

    Obama’s is laying low for the simple reason that it’s in his interests that the liars be exposed. Oddly enough, it’s not in the press’s interest so we get utterly meaningless posts like this one and have to go to ‘far left” sources like Krugman if we want to get away from minced words and more Horsehockey.

  • newfreedomblog

    Grand Bargaining? Collective Bargaining and Government Workers Unions, Not Only Disgusting, but CRUDE
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    The bill is not an attack on the middle class, public workers or jobs, Mike Wilson, head of the Cincinnati Tea Party, told a crowd gathered outside the Statehouse. “This bill is about math. Government has grown bigger than our taxpayers’ ability to support it.”

    Rick Barry, a tea party member from Akron, said of public unions: “Their benefits are so much better than mine and their pay is so much better than mine, but they are still crying.”
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    Wearing stickers that read “Taxpayer defender” and holding signs including those that read, “We’re broke. Support SB 5,” tea party activists said they wanted to show lawmakers that while they cannot compete with union numbers, there is support for changing collective-bargaining laws.
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    The group is transitioning from holding politicians accountable to showing support for their actions, said Tom Zawistowski, executive director of he Portage County Tea Party. “We want them to know that if they do it, we will work to keep them in office.”
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    He added: “We don’t have any more money. We have to make some hard decisions.”

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    While a UNION WORKER gives his case. In his own words. CAUTION: Language is offensive
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  • espritouvert1

    I couldn’t get past the grammar error in the second sentence.

    It should not be “that a bipartisan group of six senators ARE working on.”

    It should be “that a bipartisan group of senators IS working on.”

    “Group” is singular and the group is working as a whole.

    Come on. The seventh grade nun who taught me grammar in 1958 will have a coronary if she sees this, and she is such a good person. Please don’t let your writing lead to her demise.

  • newfreedomblog

    “They’ve lied to their constituents about where the problems come from, they’ve demonstated zero actual concern for defecit spending and they’re able to use a reputation created during the Johnson years to shift blame for the problem onto the Democrats.”

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    What lies? Provide sources and citations or SHUTUP
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    The “blame” game is firmly on the backs of BOTH parties. Once in office and in control of the majority, BOTH parties have spent like drunken sailors.
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    The truth and facts are we can’t sustain any of it any longer. There is no more money. Period.
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    While one Party is attempting with the help of a couple Dems to make the necessary corrections, the majority of Democrats are screaming loudly to keep their precious government / tax payer paid benefits and entitlement handouts intact.

  • allthingsinaname

    The issue has been framed the way they want it to be framed.
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    In short the people are screwed. I think progressives and just plain old liberals have to understand that the Democratic Party is not a liberal Party; Obama is not a Liberal. He will not fight, he doesn’t care.

  • newfreedomblog

    Ah, don’t be so hard on Jay Newton-Small. She is most likely the product of one of our great American PUBLIC school systems.
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    I am sure the Nun you speak about would want you to get on your hands and knees, pray to God and be thankful you had the opportunity to go to a private school for your education.
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    This is what amazes me, we have public school teachers protesting that we will potentially have to cut some of their grand benefits. Maybe, just maybe like the private sector, public employees will now have to contribute something to their own retirements and benefits for a change.
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    Taking the cost of schools. Private per child costs are less than half of their public counterparts. But what do we get in return? Illiterate graduates.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    In order to tackle this all of the sacred cows — entitlements and defense — will have to be tipped.

    How about the sacred cow of taxation? Why isn’t raising taxes part of this herd?

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell this week said “entitlement reform will not be done except on a bipartisan basis with presidential leadership.”

    If McConnell was interested in real governance instead of political gamesmanship, he wouldn’t wait for someone else to lead….instead of playing the bully, he’s showing up as the coward.

    Obama’s aides want to make sure that the president comes out of debate over entitlement reform as one of the adults in the room, someone who is willing to compromise and willing to work hard to solve problems, even if he is not urgently driving the process.

    Other than NewSTART, how is this different than Obama’s other big initiatives like the PPACA? Why would his administration waste their time over-exposing themselves by joining in with the Congressional infighting and sausage-making that’s underway?

  • http://shortplaysaboutrealpeople.wordpress.com Michael Maiello

    Obama doesn’t have a mandate to cut Social Security or Medicare benefits. That’s not why he was elected. If the Republicans think they have that mandate, then they should by all means put their proposals on the table. But I don’t think they’ll like the electoral results. Face it, the bipartisan consensus of the American people (outside of DC) is that these programs should not be cut. That alone is reason enough to hold them sacrosanct. There are other ways of dealing with the deficit.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    The truth and facts are we can’t sustain any of it any longer. There is no more money

    If there’s no more money than a simple solution is to collect more. Income tax levels are at record lows, but the Republicans insist on cut after cut and then turn around and say there’s no money. You can argue about what levels of taxation are most conducive to economic growth and perhaps the current rates are appropriate but to simply say there’s no money is a flat-out lie.

    The other lie is the notion that businesses are in the business of ‘creating jobs’. Businesses are in the business of selling goods and services and the lower costs they can manage the higher their profit. When I worked in manufacturing, my compensation was directly related to the number of hourly employees hours I could cut. The same people whining about taxes are more than happy to shift operations overseas and then wonder why Americans can’t afford to buy what they’re selling anymore.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    1.3 should be here:

    The truth and facts are we can’t sustain any of it any longer. There is no more money

    If there’s no more money than a simple solution is to collect more. Income tax levels are at record lows, but the Republicans insist on cut after cut and then turn around and say there’s no money. You can argue about what levels of taxation are most conducive to economic growth and perhaps the current rates are appropriate but to simply say there’s no money is a flat-out lie.

    The other lie is the notion that businesses are in the business of ‘creating jobs’. Businesses are in the business of selling goods and services and the lower costs they can manage the higher their profit. When I worked in manufacturing, my compensation was directly related to the number of hourly employees hours I could cut. The same people whining about taxes are more than happy to shift operations overseas and then wonder why Americans can’t afford to buy what they’re selling anymore.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Of course, what we’re experiencing will be a cure worse than the disease. By directing the ire of the unemployed at government workers who still have jobs, we can work to eliminate government jobs. Needless to say, this is the perfect way to cure unemployment.

  • textee

    I oppose anything Turban Durbin supports.

    Turban Durbin is the whack job, fringe, extremist loon who “thinks” that members of the United States military are “nazis”. http://michellemalkin.com/2005/06/16/the-treacherous-dick-durbin/

  • allthingsinaname

    “Turban Durbin is the whack job, fringe, extremist loon”
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    You should probably stop projecting.

  • nflfoghorn

    Somebody threw out The Elements of Style and the AP Stylebook long ago, I’m afraid.

  • bobell

    A lot of people disagrees with this criticism of JNS’s grammar, and Swampland, I suspect, are full of such people.
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    The English language is remarkably flexible about matching the grammatical number of a verb to the collective noun that is its subject. If the players of the Pittsburgh Steelers are boarding a plane, one could say either “The team are boarding” or “The team is boarding.” The plural form sounds a bit British, but surely it’s conceptually legitimate to argue that “The team” stands in for the individual players, each of whom is boarding individually.
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    Still, the British preference for plural verbs in such contexts is in opposition to the American preference for singular verbs. But it’s a preference, not an absolute rule. Consider the Miami Heat (as a grammatical entity, not an aggregation of selfish athletes). You’ll routinely see and hear things like “The Heat is not playing up to their potential.” I don’t like it, but it’s American standard. “Rite-Aid is having a sale on their snow-blowers.” I doubt that any nun not wearing a habit would even notice that as it went by. But the verb is singular and the pronoun referring to the subject is plural. Is the subject (Rite-Aid) singular or plural?
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    As for the Jay’s alleged goof, my instinct is for the singular, but there’s a good case to be made for the plural. Each senator is working as an individual, so a group of senators “are” working. The attraction of “senators” immediately before the verb strengthens the instinct to go plural.
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    Grammar grouching is fun, but it’s not very productive. And, although that’s not the case here, the grouch is often dead wrong. Let him [yes, him] who is without sin cast the first grammar complaint.

  • http://summerale.wordpress.com summer ale

    “Wait” is the problem? Oh, I thought it was “shoving it down our throats.” Can’t be both; which is it?

    Why is it that when Republicans follow the polls, they’re doing “the people’s” work, but when Democrats do it, they’re weak?

  • afguy

    Michelle Malkin? You’re using HER as a sane point of view?

  • romerjt

    Follow the comments . . when does the discussions degrade? Pointed but reasonable remarks are made up to “newfreedomblog” and the Obama slur. He again follows the strong :liar” comments with more emotion “shut up”. The discussion then goes a bit off track with a grammar lesson to which “”nfb” injects some sarcasm about American education and teachers which has little to do with the subject. We’re up to the next name calling example of “textee” and a rhyming grade-school like example.

    So far the discussion has been contaminated most by “nfb” and textee, both from the right – a coincidence , a tactic, or a something deeper?

    To those two, do you know how this sounds to others?

  • afguy

    romerjt,
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    Points taken but there’s another point to be made that we accepted long ago.
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    THEY DON’T CARE!
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    Their contributions are disruptive in nature and by design. Have been for as long as they’ve been here. nfb is called “Rusty” sometimes because that was the old name he used when he was banned before for insulting on of the contributors. He simply returned under a new name.
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    There will be other “serial disruptors” along in the next day or two. And, when they appear, the discourse will, just coincidentally, go into the toilet again.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    There’s plenty of money. If there weren’t the US couldn’t sell its debt, never mind have people clamoring for negative real rates.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    JNS-
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    The commission made no recommendation. Please lead the way for your colleagues and stop saying that it did.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Summer, you got it!
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    He waits, he is too indecisive.
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    He hurries – as in ten months working on a program first introduced in 1912 by Theodore Roosevelt – it is called shoving it down our throats.
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    If he talks tough about negotiating with Republicans, he is called a Chicago gangster.
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    If he makes peace easily with anybody foreign or domestic, he is called Elmer Fudd and gay.
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    If he goes to Church, he is called a radical black Christian, if he speaks well of Islam he is called a closet Muslim.
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    So, all in all, they are saying that the president is a gay Chicago gangster who takes too long to decide if he wants to kill the wabbitt or have sex with the wabbit, but, as a Muslim is eager to shove radical black Christianity down everybody’s throats.
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    You know that Republicans are desperate when they want to attack the president for doing either one of two options.
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    Personally, I don’t think it’s right to say that our obviously heterosexual and monogamous president wants to have sex with rabbits.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “While one Party is attempting with the help of a couple Dems to make the necessary corrections…”
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    Talk about euphemisms.

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    While one Party is attacking programs long sought by their constituents with the help of a couple Dems to ..
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    “… the majority of Democrats are screaming loudly to keep their precious government / tax payer paid benefits and entitlement handouts intact…”
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    Health care road construction, local police, local public schools high speed rail, environmental protections are “handouts”?
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    No, they are economically stimulating programs needed to keep this country in tact.
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    While one Party is attacking programs long sought by their constituents with the help of a couple Dems, the majority of Democrats are screaming loudly to keep economically stimulating programs needed to keep this country in tact.
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    Of course if you live on a dirt road with no electricity 40 miles from the nearest cop or police station and defend your land with a shotgun and dropped out of Kindergarten,then, maybe, to you all of those things are handouts.
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    For those of us who live in the twenty first century, these things are badly needed.
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    Now hurry up and go hunt yourself some Possum for dinner. By the time you skin it and get all of the parasites out of it, it will just about the right time for the Mrs to set the fire in your stove to start cooking it.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Rick Barry, a tea party member from Akron, said of public unions: “Their benefits are so much better than mine and their pay is so much better than mine…”
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    Then get off your lazy ass and start unionizing and stop crying!
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    Remember the 1930s and 1940s communists in the history books?
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    They used to do the same with private, for profit businesses demanding that CEOs ear less.
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    Now the Tea Party has taken the politics of jealousy from the extreme left to the extreme right.
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    (The power of marketing never fails to amaze me)

  • afguy

    Yeah, they couldn’t even agree enough to get THAT far.
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    What came out was a “preemptive” press conference by the co-chairs to get their recommendations “out there”, without really admitting that they’d failed their own mandate.
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    The Villagers are running with that press conference as some sort of “official report” on which to base policy. It’s not.
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    What the h*ll was OBama thinking when he created the commission in the first place and included a Clinton “3rd Way” re-tread and a hard RW ideologue as the chairs, unless the goal was to give cover to what was already being considered before they started?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “THE TREACHEROUS DICK DURBIN
    By Michelle Malkin • June 16, 2005 11:24 PM”

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    Um, Textee, you do know that this is 2011, don’t you?
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    BTW Do you think John McCain will beat Hillary Clinton in 2008 or is that too far in the future for you to tell.
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    I think I know what Textee’s problem is, he is writing to us from the early1900s but caught in a time warp.
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    He, also, thinks Theodore Roosevelt is far too liberal.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    You know, I am upset about Grover.

    Here he is as this extremist anti-government character and, when I was a child, I thought he was such a nice guy.

    http://www.greatdreams.com/myth/grover.jpg

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Eventually, you have to consider the possibility that they are doing what they want to do.
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    The complicity of the press bothers me more than the politicians’ dishonesty. There’s something badly broken when accurate coverage of the budget and the economy shows up on the opinion page of the NYTimes rather than the news pages.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    There’s also the corollary to Murphy’s law: Every correction on a grammatical or spelling error contains such an error.
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    It’s really more polite to point out errors, if they ARE errors, privately, IMO.

  • afguy

    I agree, jay. That was my point in the last sentence.
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    I’m at the point of having a working hypothesis that the current generation of so-called “journalists” is hopeless (unless something really game-changing happens to shake them up). They are going to have to get “scared” of the status quo to some degree to change.
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    They are servants of whatever entity currently has what they consider “authority” or “power”.

  • espritouvert1

    Yes, newfreedomblog, I do thank God every day for the wonderful Sister Turibius back in Scarsdale (where there were fabulous public schools as well) for the great start she gave me.

    After I posted my initial comment, truly having been stopped in my tracks by the grammar error I mentioned, I went back to reread the article only to be distracted by many more infelicities in the writing. So, my concern (unlike newfreedomblog) is not only what elementary and secondary schools the writer may have attended but how Columbia’s J-School could have graduated someone with so little concern for and/or competence in the English language.

    And, bobell, let’s consider a few more lapses in writing, so that you can see that I am not just being a crank.

    1) Incorrect: Grover Norquist fired off a letter AT the three Republican senators in the talks
    Correct: Grover Norquist filed off a letter TO the three Republican sentors in the talks.
    I supposed you could argue that Norquist was so incensed that he fired the letter off like a projectile at the senators, but that’s stretching it.

    2) Incorrect: The GANG of six – Coburn, Crapo, Chambliss and Democrats Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Illinois’ Dick Durbin and Mark Warner of Virginia — HAVE actually been meeting for months,

    Correct: The GANG of six – Coburn, Crapo, Chambliss and Democrats Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Illinois’ Dick Durbin and Mark Warner of Virginia — HAS actually been meeting for months,

    OK, bobell, this is the same issue with which you took umbrage with my taking umbrage before. You admitted that American standard English calls for the singular. Is not Time magazine an American publication? Furthermore, when the individuals represented by a collective noun are working in unison, as an entity, the singular is the required form.

    3) Sloppy: The gang of six – Coburn, Crapo, Chambliss and Democrats Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Illinois’ Dick Durbin and Mark Warner of Virginia — have actually been meeting for months, BUT EPISODE SHOWS how hard it will be for both sides to join hands and jump together… (For heavens sake, what is the unmodified EPISODE?)

    3) Unclear: In order to tackle this all of the sacred cows — entitlements and defense — will have to be tipped…
    I’d like to see a comma after THIS, but that is preference. What I object to is tipping sacred cows. How do you tip sacred cows?

    4) Incorrect: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell this week said “entitlement reform will not be done except on a bipartisan basis with presidential leadership”
    Correct: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell this week said, “entitlement reform will not be done except on a bipartisan basis with presidential leadership” (Pesky little comma needed.)

    5) Incorrect: And yet there is little interest among Obama’s inner circle in putting out a fixed proposal of entitlement reform to be criticized FROM BY the left…
    What in the world does “FROM BY” mean?

    And, I’m not completely sure about this, but I don’t think you can say that there is little interest AMONG Obama’s inner circle. Wouldn’t IN Obama’s inner circle be better?

    6) Incorrect: Though the White House has been careful not to get too involved in the process, THEY have drawn a few lines in the sand
    Correct: Though the White House has been careful not to get too involved in the process, IT has drawn a few lines in the sand.. (You can’t use the plural THEY to refer back to the singular subject (White House) and verb (has) antecedents.

    7) Incorrect: While in the upper chamber Conrad, the Senate Budget Committee chairman, leads his gang of six. The group is hoping to circulate a draft of THEIR proposals next month to the more than 40 senators who have expressed interest in the talks.
    Correct: The group is hoping to circulate a draft of ITS proposals… Clearly, the group is functioning in unison, as one entity, and is sending out only one draft. You can’t have it both ways. It’s either “the group are sending out a draft of their proposals” or “the group is sending our a draft of its proposals.” (I’m adding that for you, dear bobell!)

    8) Incorrect: The Administration would prefer not to see…
    Correct: The administration would prefer not to see…

    9) Incorrect: The Administration would prefer not to see any agreement attached to the debt ceiling measure, Office of Management and Budget director Jacob Lew told reporters Thursday, and THEY want to see Social Security dealt with separately.
    Correct: The administration would prefer not to see any agreement attached to the debt ceiling measure, Office of Management and Budget director Jacob Lew told reporters Thursday, and IT wants to see Social Security dealt with separately. (It’s that old darn singular antecedent rule again. And, yes, bobell, many Americans make this mistake, but it is not acceptable in standard or formal written English. In the bar, it gets a pass. In Time magazine, it does not or should not.)

    I’m sure by now, that a lot of readers are groaning and asking, “Does this matter?” Probably not as much as the error in numbers (a typo?) cited by a previous poster to this article. But for many, sloppy writing interferes with the ability to focus on the content of the article. I kept bumping into these peculiarities and errors; I was distracted by them and that took away from my ability to read, savor, and evaluate the writer’s point of view.

    May I end by citing Irving Younger in the ABA Journal (1/1/86)? In speaking of language as the lawyer’s medium, he says, “The medium in which the lawyer works is language. Words are the means to the lawyer’s end. Without sway over words, the lawyer is professionally disabled. A lawyer, therefore, is ethically obliged to learn how to command the language, for command of language is the prerequisite of a lawyer by the ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct…..There is no clarity of language without clarity of thought, and no clarity of thought without clarity of language.”

    Who trades even more in words than a lawyer? Yes, a journalist. This post is not a persnickety exercise in “gotcha.” It is a desire that the writer help me to read and think by her writing more carefully and more rigorously.

    I do apologize for the length of this post. I just felt that I had to enumerate the series of errors that jumped out at me to make my point. Thank you for your patience in reading and thank you to those who took the time to respond. I do appreciate it.

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  • fumbles1

    The main reason for the large current budget deficits is the downturn caused by the collapse of the housing bubble.

    Downturns are inevitable. There are on average 3 every 10 years. If the budget doesn’t take them into account, then the creator is either a liar or an idiot.

    In my opinion, when it comes to budgeting government programs, the mantra should be: If it can’t be paid for during a recession, then it can’t be paid for.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    And the High Sheriffs have their vengeance, by eliminating your paragraph breaks, and rendering your post unreadable.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    It is true that one price we pay for the immediacy of blog posts is the absence of copy editors. I think the tradeoff has proven to be well worth it.

  • espritouvert1

    Thanks, jayackroyd, you gave me a good laugh! And you’re right!

    Did you think I was getting my panties in a bit of a wad?

    Nevertheless, the illiterate High Sheriffs of Time magazine just proved my point!

  • fumbles1

    The gang of six – Coburn, Crapo and Chambliss along with Democrats Kent Conrad of North Dakota, Illinois’ Dick Durbin and Mark Warner of Virginia — have actually been meeting for months

    I’m glad at least some of our politicians are interested in solutions. I support them 100%, regardless of what they come up with (so long as it is an honest attempt to solve the problem).

    To Grover Norquist, and to everyone else on both sides: Your never going to get everything you want in a democracy. So either suck it up and help out, stay out of the way, or start planning your coup…

  • http://szyskival.wordpress.com szyskival

    Krugman is right on target. Medicare and Medicaid must be made more cost effective, and taxes on upper levels need to be raised. Through most of the 1950′s the highest level tax rate was 90% or more, yet that high rate did not stop people from investing, nor prevent them from attaining riches. America was the world leader is so many areas at the time, constructed a marvelous interstate highway system, and more and more Americans were attaining college degrees, often from state universities with low tuition costs. The Bush tax cuts are a major reason for our deficit problems, and I see absolutely no evidence they have produced any jobs. What they have produced is a widening gap between the haves and the have-nots.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jnsmall Jay Newton-Small

    Sorry – no typo! That’s what the commission recommended.
    JNS

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