Morning Must Reads: March

Protesters fill the Rotunda at the State Capitol building in Madison, Wisconsin on February 16. (Photo by Mark Hirsch/Getty Images)

–Details begin to emerge on the Simpson-Bowles style deficit reduction package being crafted by Senators Durbin, Conrad, Warner, Coburn, Crapo and Chambliss.

–Authorities in Bahrain cracks down on protests.

–President Obama sees an “assault on unions” in Wisconsin as public workers march.

–The U.S. breaks precedent and rebukes Israel in the U.N. Security Council.

–The Obama stimulus turns two and Michael Grunwald writes its grant competitions are ushering in a new era of bureaucratic rationality.

–In the magazine: Joe on Mitch Daniel’s resistance to pandering, Fareed Zakaria and Bobby Ghosh on Egypt, and Rahm Emanuel storms Chicago city hall.

–Scott Brown’s memoir is candid.

–Tom Perriello will defer to Tim Kaine on a Senate bid in Virginia. Obama has chatted with Kaine, who’s not a “definite no.”

–David Frum has John Thune’s number: “‘The most popular Republican for 2012 is Generic Republican.’ And John Thune is the most splendidly generic Republican in the 2012 race.”

–Nevada and Ohio are the greatest historical bellwethers.

–Five myths about school vouchers.

–And the Red Cross cuts loose.

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    Audacity of Dope: Tales of a Toking Teenage Obama

    We knew Barack Obama smoked weed in high school because he wrote about it in his books. What we didn’t know, until Buzzfeed posted these choice nuggets (I’m so sorry) from David Maraniss’s new book on the President’s younger years, were the giggle-worthy details of his “Choom Gang” lifestyle, which are right out of a buddy stoner flick. Obama and his friends drove around the lush Hawaii countryside, hot-boxing their VW bus and re-upping with a long-haired pizza-tossing dealer named Ray, whom Obama thanked in his yearbook “for all the good times.”

  • 53_3

    Authorities in Wisconsin crack down on protesters
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    http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/02/17/wisconsin.budget/index.html

  • nflfoghorn

    Scott Brown reveals he was molested
    the year before he runs for re-election.
    Is it wrong to speculate why NOW?

  • newfreedomblog

    Not So Good News For The Economy – No Jobs – Very Little Recovery
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    “Another Labor Department report showed more Americans than projected filed first-time claims for unemployment insurance last week, a sign the improvement in the labor market will take time to develop.
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    The cost of medical care increased 0.1 percent, restrained by a 0.1 percent drop in medical services that was the biggest since November 1975.”

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    Basically overall everything is going to cost you much much more.
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    Yea, things are great!!

  • newfreedomblog

    Courting the Titans of Business, well at least those who will listen anyways.
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    Steve Jobs, Eric Schmidt and Mark Zuckerberg to Meet With President Obama Thursday in San Francisco
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    Is it all about campaign money? Or, is it more than that?

  • newfreedomblog

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/blogs/press-here/Glenn-Beck-Doesnt-Trust-Google-116382729.html?dr
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    While in other news, Glenn Beck has some ideas about these “meetings”.

  • freeinpa

    You mean on the hard working (gag) teachers who called in sick to protest at taxpayers expense?

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    President Obama sees an “assault on unions” in Wisconsin as public workers march.

    ‘Bout damn time someone besides us plebes noticed.

    Now whether or not he’ll do anything about it, what with all the cozying up to those arseholes at the Chamber of Commerce Obama’s been doing lately, is the question.

    It’s a shame that – just because right-whingers are fixated on giving tax breaks to companies and millionaires instead of doing the sensible thing and slightly raising taxes – GOPer politicians feel the need to screw workers by reducing or removing benefits that were negotiated parts of their compensation.

    And it’s doubly-damned that states wouldn’t have the issues with their pension fund obligations if they weren’t sold worthless-crap securities in the first place…and whom, exactly, are to blame for that flaming pile of sh*t?

  • 53_3

    Glenn Beck has ideas?!?!?

  • newfreedomblog

    Issa Digging….Deeper and Deeper
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    WASHINGTON — A House committee chairman renewed efforts Wednesday to obtain names of current and former federal, state and local policymakers – including congressional colleagues – who received sweetheart mortgage deals from the former Countrywide Financial Corp.
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    The subpoena by Rep. Darrell Issa of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee makes it more likely that the records could be made public.
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    A subpoena in 2009, when Democrats controlled the committee, specified that information on discounted loans to members of Congress and their spouses go only to the House Ethics Committee – with all names deleted. The ethics committee has never revealed the information it obtained.”

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    From a Congress let by Nancy Pelosi, the 111th, which was hiding the truth, now we can find out the real truth. How to drain a swamp101

  • freeinpa

    It seems the left never runs out of ideas on how to kill the economy. If you can’t beat them fair and square —change the rules!
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    ” Craig Becker, Obama’s recess appointment to the National Labor Relations Board, is pushing for the ability of 5 to 10 employees to form Micro Unions within small businesses in order to gain a toe hold and to then solicit other employees from within.”

  • freeinpa

    And who said you were uneducable?

  • hippooath

    “While in other news, Glenn Beck has some ideas about these “meetings”.”
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    Yeah, Glenn Beck and ‘ideas’ are as compatible as sh!t and sandwich. Incidentally what GOP have decided to serve working people in this country.

  • newfreedomblog

    In sharp reversal, U.S. agrees to rebuke Israel in Security Council
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    Friend or Foe? Israel is starting to feel awfully lonely in the World.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    “I appreciate the fact that the folks here today will have a chance to have their voices heard,” Walker told reporters Wednesday. “But I want to be sure the taxpayers of Wisconsin will have their chance to have their voices heard.”
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    As if those protesting union members don’t pay taxes. Walker – what a d!ck.

  • 53_3

    We interrupt rusty’s propaganda barrage to inform you that he has awoken from his exhaustion induced by his meth-fed manic episode.
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    That is all.
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    We now return you to rusty’s latest propaganda rants…

  • newfreedomblog

    What is the breakdown of Union workers versus all the rest of us workers again, hippo?
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    Unions = 11% of working population, isn’t that right?
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    9% of the 11% are Federal or State workers I believe. Yea, you really have the “backs” of the rest of us no doubt. Keep on smokin’!!

  • 53_3

    Please note that, however, rusty was not the only one asleep from exhaustion on the same cigarette butt littered floor.
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    Freeinpa has now awoken from his bout of exhaustion and is looking for a spanking.
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    That is all.
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    We apologize for this second interruption to return you to this mornings cacophony of right wing insanity…

  • hippooath

    ‘Ideas’. People have a lot of ideas – some base it on logic and observed data. Others just make sh1t up and call them truth. Personally I don’t know who’s more ignorant; Glenn Beck for his constant drivel or people who listen to him.

    Given that Glenn is wrong in almost all the stuff he says its more like a parasite that injects its victim with a emotional additiction. It’s still a parasite. It never gives anything, only takes from it.

  • freeinpa

    Never mind improvements and accountability– just send more money.

    More civility from the left!

    BOISE — Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Luna on Tuesday condemned incidents of vandalism and harassment he said he’s suffered amid attempting to overhaul public education.

    In particular, he said he discovered Tuesday morning that his pickup truck parked at his home was vandalized, with two of its tires slashed and his last name spray-painted in black with two lines through it.

    News of the incident rippled through the Idaho Capitol as lawmakers faced decisions about Luna’s proposed “Students Come First” plan, which has attracted both strong support and criticism over issues like increasing the number of students in classrooms, revamping negotiations for teacher contracts, classroom technology and online learning

    http://www.magicvalley.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/ad81d296-fc38-55e1-bff7-16cd95faf493.html

  • 53_3

    “…uneducable?”
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    Not I, said the kettle to the pot.
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    Can I laugh now? Nevermind. It’s theraputic:
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    Ahyuh, ahyuh, …

  • garylk

    Beck’s mad because Mid-East unrest hasn’t boosted his gold hoarding business like he thought it would. Obviously, it is Google’s fault that the “revolts” were organized and generally peaceful, instead of the violent anarchy that gold hoarders require for a profit.

  • m0mentom0ri

    “Glenn Beck has some ideas about these “meetings”.”
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    Regale us nutcase. What are Glenn Beck’s theories? Is he going with the caliphate, George Soros, or the Anit-Christ this time? Or all three working together with the Muslim Brotherhood?
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    Lunatics listening to lunatics.

  • hippooath

    “What is the breakdown of Union workers versus all the rest of us workers again, hippo?
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    Unions = 11% of working population, isn’t that right?
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    9% of the 11% are Federal or State workers I believe. Yea, you really have the “backs” of the rest of us no doubt. Keep on smokin’!!”
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    And that has to do what with the @sshat Glenn Beck?
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    Union workers fight for everyones right and the reason why we used to have amongst the most prolific and resourceful middle class is because of the work that unions have done over the decades.
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    Warfare on unions and workers are just what most idjuts argue for and it’s a perfect recipe for a banana republic or a paradise like China, low wage work, burned out by the time you’re 15 and discarded.
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    I’m not in a union. But I can recognize the hard battles they have fought so that I have 5 day work weeks and 8 hour days. And anything over that I get compensated accordingly. Without it you and I would both have to work 12 hour 6 days a week.
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    I think it’s more telling who you fight for than what I defend.

  • 53_3

    You really should stop bashing teachers, freeinpa.
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    Oh. I forgot.
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    Judging by your commentary below, you never had the benefit of having a real teacher…

  • m0mentom0ri

    Crooks investigating crooks.
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    In March, Issa and his brother William were charged with stealing a Maserati from a dealer’s showroom in Cleveland. Issa says it was a matter of mistaken identity by the Cleveland Heights police; the case was later dismissed.[3]

    Before that had happened, in December 1972, police in Adrian pulled Issa over for going the wrong way on a one-way street and, as he was retrieving his registration, saw in the car’s glove compartment what turned out to be a .25-caliber Colt automatic handgun inside an ammunition box, along with a military pouch containing 44 rounds, a tear gas gun and two rounds for that. Issa was charged with carrying a concealed weapon; ultimately he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of possession of an unregistered firearm.

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    Gun nut and a car thief, no wonder nutcase Rusty is a fan of Issa.

  • hippooath

    Yeah because unions sure killed Canada’s, Germany’s and Swedens economy. All 3 are running red hot.
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    Here the magic of unions destroys the economy. Not the financial market who singel handedly ravaged not only our economy but wherever it had it’s fingers. Incidentally the countries that did similarly to our finance institutions are going through the same slow uptick in their economies. Countries that didn’t allow it are doing just fine.
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    So what data do you have that unions or micro unions will destroy our economy?

  • m0mentom0ri

    In defense of nutcase Rusty, his behavioral patterns are much more common amongst functioning alcoholics than methamphetamine addicts. Just sayin’.

  • freeinpa

    Still talking and saying nothing

  • hippooath

    So who did it?

  • freeinpa

    More civility brought to you by hypocrits!

  • 53_3

    It’s hard to diagnose from afar, momento.
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    Should we call in the quacks?
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    “Dr.” Earljr1, paging “Dr.” Earljr1
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    Delirium tremens in Cell B.

  • newfreedomblog
  • hippooath

    My dad was a alcoholic, I think momentmori is right.

  • 53_3

    So aren’t you a walking talking example of pure civility, aren’t you freeinpa?

  • freeinpa

    Really? All of the violence directed at him was dome by

    A) concerned citizens?
    B) teachers unions?
    C) loons?

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    Pick one. You have a 66% of being partly right

  • 53_3

    I defer. After all, this is a democracy…

  • hippooath

    “More civility brought to you by hypocrits!”
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    Truer words was never said, but never reflected. Civility 101 according to Freeinpa. Giving everyone a dirty sanchez while acting like he’s the one getting molested.

  • nflfoghorn

    Worst Governor Ever??? (five weeks in….)
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    http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/article1152035.ece

  • sacredh

    “Yeah, Glenn Beck and ‘ideas’ are as compatible as sh!t and sandwich.”
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    How true. The more bread you have, the less sh!t you have to eat.

  • 53_3

    So who did it?

  • freeinpa

    “My dad was a alcoholic, I think momentmori is right”
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    It is thought to be genetic so it may explain your baseless rants. BUt exactly other their your terrific insight and Mom’s spewing do you have any evidence or is this just another smear?

  • newfreedomblog

    It’s ok freeinpa. Nothing new around here with the libtards. Just like a bad case of crabs, they just keep hopping around and multiplying.
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    One good dose of reality and the truth and their gone.

  • 53_3

    I wonder what it would take to make freeinpa cry…

  • hippooath

    “Really? All of the violence directed at him was dome by

    A) concerned citizens?
    B) teachers unions?
    C) loons?

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    Pick one. You have a 66% of being partly right”
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    I don’t have to ‘pick one’. I just wait for the police investigation and think justice is served when the @sshat that did it gets thrown in jail. That’s how a functional society of laws works.
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    So what will you say if it’s a Republican? Just wondering.

  • 53_3

    Some of us have been around here four years, rusty.
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    So, explain please, why hasn’t your regular doses of “truth and reality” worked so far?
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    I mean, after all, we are still here…

  • freeinpa

    “As if those protesting union members don’t pay taxes. Walker – what a d!ck”
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    There is an ad here from the NJ Teachers union talking about Christie “taking our money” and giving it to parochial schools.

    It seems those parent s don’t pay taxes so I guess its possible teachers don’t pay teachers. In reality they don’t – it is just a refund of the taxpayers money.

  • newfreedomblog

    Muslim ‘Hood Comrade Jimmy “I don’t have a clue either” Carter says….
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    “I think the Muslim Brotherhood is not anything to be afraid of in the upcoming (Egyptian) political situation and the evolution I see as most likely,” Carter said. “They will be subsumed in the overwhelming demonstration of desire for freedom and true democracy.”

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    LOL, yea right Jimmy. “Subsumed”, with open arms and outreach from American traitors just like YOU.

  • 53_3

    Or, God forbid, his wife did it…

  • freeinpa

    “Yeah, Glenn Beck and ‘ideas’ are as compatible as sh!t and sandwich. Incidentally what GOP have decided to serve working people in this country”
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    This must be that high-minded rhetoric with evidence that addresses the topic that you seem to keep demanding from the conservatives. More hate and hypocrisy fro the left.

  • hippooath

    Whenever Ann Coulter calls it quits and a second Obama term with more legislative victories including a fully recovering Economy.
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    Stuff that would make most people perfectly happy. Or if they found Obama’s birth certificate, we left Iraq a fully functioning democracy and we killed Osama.
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    Honestly, I don’t think really good sex makes Freeinpa cry; he’s too hooked on that anger to realize any of his real human emotions.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Luna was at his mother’s home with her when a stranger approached, identified himself as a teacher and berated them over the changes before Luna asked him to leave…..
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    Since the Union has come out strongly against such actions, your attempts at guilt by association fall short.
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    And I would guess “berated them over the changes before Luna asked him to leave” falls a little short of
    All of the violence directed at him

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    But politics IS all about the race for victimhood isn’t it?

  • 53_3

    While I’m at it, I wonder what it would take to make rusty cry, too…

  • freeinpa

    So the folks calling in “sick” fraudulently are being assaulted. Seems we have the administration taking the side of those who ignore rules, law and order

  • hippooath

    “This must be that high-minded rhetoric with evidence that addresses the topic that you seem to keep demanding from the conservatives. More hate and hypocrisy fro the left.”
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    You sure told me. If you didn’t come across as such a perfect hypocrite you might have a point, otherwise it’s just you pissing against the wind. Go ahead.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Darn……and we just changed that mattress pad last week……

  • freeinpa

    “Others just make sh1t up and call them truth. Personally I don’t know who’s more ignorant; Glenn Beck for his constant drivel or people who listen to him.”
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    So which are you? You must listen to him to make a judgment that its drivel or are you just making up $hit?

    But in either event it makes you ignorant!

  • newfreedomblog

    Send In The Warships!!! Iran – Every Libtards Favorite Muslim Country Sticking Their Nose Out Again
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    I am guessing Obambi will send out a welcoming committee to the Mediterranean seaport in Syria. Didn’t he reopen talks with Syria not too long ago?
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    Obama foreign policy: “Rebuke Israel”, “Welcome Iranian Warships To Syria”

  • 53_3

    At least not SM sex, anyway. He’s gotten more spankings from a wider variety of spankees than is his normal due.
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    And he’s lovin’ it…

  • newfreedomblog

    “Whenever Ann Coulter calls it quits and a second Obama term with more legislative victories including a fully recovering Economy.”

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    Yea when Pigs Fly and wads of 100 dollar bills start shooting out Obama’s A$$

  • freeinpa

    “You sure told me. If you didn’t come across as such a perfect hypocrite you might have a point, otherwise it’s just you pissing against the wind. Go ahead.”
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    So you got nothing!

  • hippooath

    “It is thought to be genetic so it may explain your baseless rants. BUt exactly other their your terrific insight and Mom’s spewing do you have any evidence or is this just another smear?”
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    I don’t drink exactly because of the higher risk that I might become alcoholic since my dad and his dad were alcoholics.
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    It’s called experience. I don’t know and in fact it’s not relevant either. And I really don’t think you should blabber about smearing and spewing. It’s par for the course for you.

  • 53_3

    Did you know that the Iranian warship canceled it’s request to pass through the Suez canal this morning?
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    More “truth and reality”, rusty?

  • 53_3

    rusty’s mad…

  • newfreedomblog

    Our wonderful Teacher’s striking in Wisconsin.
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    “Vile Political Rhetoric”. “Yes We Can!!!”
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  • 53_3

    Well, rusty and freeinpa seem to know that crabs are not necessarily from Dungeness…

  • freeinpa

    “the case was later dismissed”
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    Just another smear.
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    gun nut? Cleveland is the 7th most dangerous city in America. It sounds like prudence
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    Just post I hate Republicans – it saves time and excuses

  • 53_3

    Keep spanking that butt, guys, freeinpa is lovin’ it…

  • newfreedomblog

    Doh!! “Did you know” IQ53, that this was just reported?
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    “Report by Iranian TV denies claims that ships had withdrawn their applications to transit into the Mediterranean; Lieberman calls planned transit a “provocation.”

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    My God you are so smart and witty. You almost make Donald Duck and Daffy look like mere geniuses. LOL
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    Put your little mousy over my links and CLICK, Einstein. It’s not that hard, I swear.

  • freeinpa

    Auto, steel airlines

    Check the evidence

  • sacredh

    OT, but did SZ bail? Just scanning through the threads I haven’t seen his name.

  • newfreedomblog

    Blah….blah…. blah…..look at me, I am 53!!! Blah….blah…blah.

  • 53_3

    “So which are you? You must listen to him to make a judgment that its drivel or are you just making up $hit?
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    But in either event it makes you ignorant!”

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    Now isn’t this an interesting sample of freeinpa’s insanity:
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    Whether you are informed or not, according to freeinpa, you’re ignorant.
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    And therein lies the mental tug of FOX “news”…

  • hippooath

    “So you got nothing!”
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    From you? Yeah,

  • newfreedomblog

    Yea, think so. Depressing. I am sure he can’t handle the 3rd Graders who pretend to be liberals anymore.
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    But patty sartor hasn’t been as active since jcapan slapped him down the other day. Other than defending himself, he’s been pretty tame.
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    Maybe stuart will come slap morithemoron, IQ53, hippodork and a few others.

  • 53_3

    “Obama foreign policy: “Rebuke Israel”, “Welcome Iranian Warships To Syria”
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    Wow, did you shoot wide of the mark there rusty. To dismiss your last comment, what does one have to do with the other?
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    And second, the “truth and reality” nugget you left is only your opinion and has absolutely nothing to do with either truth or reality.
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    That is, unless you wish us to install you as a minor diety…

  • newfreedomblog

    LOL@just post “I hate Republicans”, saves time.
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    LOL!! Love it.

  • hippooath

    “So which are you? You must listen to him to make a judgment that its drivel or are you just making up $hit?

    But in either event it makes you ignorant!”
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    Right, that’s how logic works. Glenn is almost always proven wrong and I’m the ignorant one regardless. Who the frack hit you over the head and made you write so much nonsense? You’re what Monty Python based all their sketches on.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    Seems we have the administration taking the side of those who ignore rules, law and order
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    You mean Walker’s administration, which is trying to eliminate collective bargaining rights for public unions? The Wisconsin protests are not about the education budget, which hasn’t been cut all that much…probably due to the $100 million in concessions previously made by union employees.
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    Yes, Walker’s pretty much taking your side, Freewelcher.

  • 53_3

    I think that today’s degenerate mudslinging is the kind of stuff he doesn’t like.
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    I hope he’ll be back.

  • newfreedomblog

    Friends and Family of IQ53
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  • hippooath

    “Auto, steel airlines

    Check the evidence”
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    Lets ignore the evidence how unions doesn’t seem to be a problem in other countries. What evidence do you have that unions are the fault behind auto, steel and airlines?

  • 53_3

    I’ll grant you two this:
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    If you haven’t persuaded everyone to hate Republicans by now, you are giving it a really, ,really good try…

  • sacredh

    I hope it’s just a hiatus. I’ve been posting less and skipping several days at a time but SZ is one of the main reasons I keep coming back. I don’t agree with all of his opinions or conclusions but he does make me think and sometimes re-evaluate my own opinions.

  • 53_3

    Now he’s really mad…

  • hippooath

    I really don’t want to speculate in who in the tea party movement did it, but we should definately wait for the police investigation. I mean it’s either a concerned citizen, tea partier or a republican so either way it’s a 66% percent chance.

  • freeinpa

    “Since the Union has come out strongly against such actions, your attempts at guilt by association fall short”
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    Now that’s funny! Has the unions even got on camera ever admitted to violence? No. We always get its a few rogues. Now why didn’t that argument work for the Tea Party. Call racist and violent without proof, condemn those that may have been and yet the bogus charge stands. Oh yeah you don’t agree with them

    The following 2nd paragraph explains the next paragraph
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    “NILRR has found that victims of union henchmen rarely find justice in local, state, or federal criminal courts. According to media accounts NILRR has analyzed, 2,193 incidents of union violence occurred nationally between 1991 and 2001. Only 62 individuals were arrested and 10 people punished for these promised or actual attacks on people and property, yielding a reported conviction rate of just 0.45 percent. (Events the media missed would boost these figures.)
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    “After all, labor gave Democrats $89,882,124 for the 2002 elections, vs. $6,441,332 to Republicans (or 93 vs. 7 percent of donations), reports the Center for Responsive Politics’ opensecrets.org campaign-finance database. Unions also gave Democrats generous, undeclared in-kind contributions. “

  • 53_3

    I do to, sacred.
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    This particular morning slog is because I’m again nursmaiding processes on my work computer.
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    Sometimes I like poking those feral animals in the eye just to see if they snarl.
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    They do, but I’m going to have to get back to work.

  • m0mentom0ri

    “This must be that high-minded rhetoric with evidence that addresses the topic that you seem to keep demanding from the conservatives.”
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    Ok, Freeper. Pick a side. Are you with Glenn Beck and Rusty that George Soros and Obama are plotting to bring back the caliphate and destroy western civilization once and for all? Or are you just a sane conservative who believes the federal government has too much control over an individual’s life decisions and government is best consolidated at a state and local level?
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    On one side you have foaming at the mouth, tinfoil hat wearing insanity. On the other side, a reasonable ideological position. Which side are you on? Or is picking a side too much high-minded rhetoric for you?

  • 53_3

    Nice bs, freeinpa.
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    Still, who did it?

  • m0mentom0ri

    “Cleveland is the 7th most dangerous city in America. It sounds like prudence”
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    Yes, I can just see Issa holding off the hordes of attacking Clevelanders with his tear gas gun.

  • Ivy_B

    sacred, Stuart popped in a while ago to note that he has been busy with his work and some other projects. He’s working with Jay Ackroyd on an expanded Virtually Speaking and that is taking quite a bit of time. The program can be downloaded via iTunes or listened to live in Second Life. However I suspect the silly bickering helps keep him and others away as well.

  • hippooath

    “Yea when Pigs Fly and wads of 100 dollar bills start shooting out Obama’s A$$”
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    No, I still don’t think he’ll be crying. He will cash in on the flying pigs (tastes just like chicken) and take the money and run, but he won’t cry.

  • newfreedomblog

    “Death To Tyrants” – Not in Egypt, but in Wisconsin!!
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    It’s “a very bad example to send to young children,” Varney warned.
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    Kraig defended the organized protests as a necessary roadblock to the governor’s controversial proposal. When confronted with video of teachers “using their students as political props,” Kraig praised the teachers and students’ involvement for “standing up for their fundamental human rights.”
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    Kraig also insisted that “collective bargaining laws in Wisconsin were created in the first place to create labor stability so that you didn’t have any kind of public service disruptions.”

  • freeinpa

    “You mean Walker’s administration, which is trying to eliminate collective bargaining rights for public unions?”
    .
    And the state’s march to bankruptcy?

  • Ivy_B

    A graphic representation of the middle class financial situation.

    http://www.visualeconomics.com/the-american-familys-financial-turmoil_2010-04-29/

  • freeinpa

    “Yes, I can just see Issa holding off the hordes of attacking Clevelanders with his tear gas gun”
    .
    What exactly do you think a tear gas gun is for? Or did you see the word “gun” and loses all sense (again)?

  • freeinpa

    “Lets ignore the evidence how unions doesn’t seem to be a problem in other countries.”
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    No because in Germany they went to a 2 tiered system in the 90s as they saw they could not compete globally in the car and tech industries. France has change retirement age. And Sweden is a socialist country. So are you saying we should be socialist?
    .
    Seems you are the one ignoring evidence and ignor is the root word for ignorance

  • sacredh

    It’s 60 here today and I spent part of yesterday afternoon picking up branches and twigs that came off of the trees during the winter. I start 7 midnights tonight and then have a two week vacation coming up so I’m going to be here less until after the first week of March. I’ve got a list of projects to do in and around the house. We had 54 days in a row here where it never got up past the freezing mark. I’ve also got some things I need to take care of at the rental properties so my plate is going to be pretty full.

  • hippooath

    “”NILRR has found that victims of union henchmen rarely find justice in local, state, or federal criminal courts. According to media accounts NILRR has analyzed, 2,193 incidents of union violence occurred nationally between 1991 and 2001. Only 62 individuals were arrested and 10 people punished for these promised or actual attacks on people and property, yielding a reported conviction rate of just 0.45 percent. (Events the media missed would boost these figures.)
    .
    “After all, labor gave Democrats $89,882,124 for the 2002 elections, vs. $6,441,332 to Republicans (or 93 vs. 7 percent of donations), reports the Center for Responsive Politics’ opensecrets.org campaign-finance database. Unions also gave Democrats generous, undeclared in-kind contributions. “”
    .
    Is this your evidence that someone in the teachers union did?
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    Maybe you don’t care, but I don’t know who did it, but whomever did it belongs in jail. Regardless if it was a midget ninja, Sawquatch, the great banana man, a concerned citizen, Goofy, Liberal or Republican.
    .
    The thing you provided above is your hate-slobber over what you think about Unions and have absolutely nothing about what someone did in this case. Try to stay on target.
    .
    Why do I get the feeling that you read several really venemous blogs and such, listening to early morning hate radio and then just runs with it no matter how wrong or insane? You don’t seem to have any problem copying and pasting drivel of data as if you were following someone elses insane thought pattern.

  • m0mentom0ri

    Rusty, like most functioning alcoholics, has several ‘tells’ – verbal cues or signs that he’s imbibing. One of the more obvious ones is “my little friend” and its variants. Generally, Rusty will start dropping that phrase prolifically in posts date stamped later in the afternoon, usually around 5p-6p EDT. All capped strings of “AHAHA’s” are another one of his evening and weekend tells. Along with a general increase in belligerence as the day wears on.
    .
    It is a remote diagnosis. It could well be wrong. It could easily be one of several other substance abuse issues, but alcohol is usually the safest bet. Occam’s razor. and all that. Combined with his delusional paranoid psychosis, of course.
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    Oh, and just to reiterate: I do not believe in mindless civility anymore than mindless violence. If you say idiotic things, expect to be called an idiot. If you act like a drunk in public, expect to be derided for it.

  • freeinpa

    “I think that today’s degenerate mudslinging is the kind of stuff he doesn’t like.
    .
    I hope he’ll be back.”
    .
    And you say those without any nod to 90% of the mudslinging is you and hippo doing a circle jerk of mudslinging.
    .
    So is the quest remains are you absolutely clueless or even you don’t read the crap you write!

  • hippooath

    “What exactly do you think a tear gas gun is for? Or did you see the word “gun” and loses all sense (again)?”
    .
    You sure wouldn’t use one to defend yourself in your home.

  • sacredh

    Thanks Ivy_B. That’s good to hear. Losing pourmecoffee, sgwhite, pirate wench and some others was bad enough but the swamp just wouldn’t be the same without SZ.

  • freeinpa

    “If you didn’t come across as such a perfect hypocrite you might have a point, otherwise it’s just you pissing against the wind.”
    .
    So I am right but you don;t like the way I present it? Were you stamping your feet and holding your breath when you wrote that post?

  • freeinpa

    “Unions = 11% of working population, isn’t that right?”
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    Isn’t it amazing how such a small percent of society which accounts for over 32 states marching toward bankruptcy as they cannot keep up with the out-sized payments excess salaries, over-sized pensions and excessive benefits to this tiny portion of workers. But we can’t blame them— just pay

  • hippooath

    “No because in Germany they went to a 2 tiered system in the 90s as they saw they could not compete globally in the car and tech industries. France has change retirement age. And Sweden is a socialist country. So are you saying we should be socialist?
    .
    Seems you are the one ignoring evidence and ignor is the root word for ignorance”
    .
    So France have changed the retirement age? And how does that have anything to do with the economy? Just wondering. In fact they changed it to 4 day weeks or 6 hour work days I think which tanked the economy. That was on a government level though. Not enough productivity to stimulate growth.
    .
    Sweden is a socialist country? They haven’t been a socialist country ever, they were a mixed socialist economy for a while but the last 2 terms of conservative governments have sold out almost all government assests in production. They might have a socialist democratic party, but they also have about 3 to 4 (if you count the new National neo nazi party) and equally many on the left hand of the dial.
    .
    Of course, this ignores the premise – that unions have anything to do with the economy. So what you’re saying is that the reason why Swedens economy is red hot is because of unions and social democracy?
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    I really don’t think so. It has to do with production. They produce stuff that gets consumed or sold globally. That’s why they’re doing fine.
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    Same with Canada and same with Germany. UK is doing poorly because of the bank crisis and the austerity politics in place. So where’s your evidence?
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    Or let me put it like this; you don’t have any. You never analysed the data – you shot from the hip, erected a couple of straw men and squirrels and hoped that I would blindly follow it over the cliff. Isn’t that why you had to add the nonsense ‘you don’t want us to be socialist do you?’
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    Emotional drivel.

  • m0mentom0ri

    “Or did you see the word “gun” and loses all sense (again)?”
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    I own a 9mm Browning Hi-Power, an Ithaca shotgun, and a .223 bolt action Ruger. All registered and everything. You’d be surprised how many liberals are ok with legal gun ownership and sane restrictions on what can and can’t be owned.
    .
    Did I just blow your mind, Freepy?

  • m0mentom0ri

    “You sure wouldn’t use one to defend yourself in your home.”
    .
    Not sure it’d be effective against a car-jacking either. Tho, that might be fun to watch.

  • hippooath

    “So I am right but you don;t like the way I present it? Were you stamping your feet and holding your breath when you wrote that post?”
    .
    No, you’re wrong. But it’s irrelevant if you’re right or wrong if you make a big stink out of how I am but behave the same. But I might had to pay attention to what you’re saying if the source had any moral standing. As it is, I’m safe.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    ignorant!

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    >_>

    <_<

    Ignorant, …even

  • textee

    Those worthless, grossly overpaid, public “school” so-called “teachers” in Wisconsin actually brought along the children that they are indoctrinating to their lawless mob.

    Check out this video of those children not having any idea why the hell they were brought along to join the mob. It’s quite funny, but scary as hell that leftist thugs are running American public so-called “education”. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/02/028388.php

  • freeinpa

    “No, you’re wrong.”
    .
    Well which is it? I might have a point or your wrong? Seems psychotic episodes are taking over. You just want to p1ss at a conservative and your arguments become as amorphous as your liberal philosophy. As you go form pint A to point B with any liberal argument the wheels fall of the wagon

  • hippooath

    “Not sure it’d be effective against a car-jacking either. Tho, that might be fun to watch.”
    .
    Now thats a cops episode I’d love to watch.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    All I got out of this is that Rusty has Crabs, but he’s a Doctor right? He’ll just prescribe himself something like he always does… :D

  • freeinpa

    “So France have changed the retirement age? And how does that have anything to do with the economy
    .
    “Sweden is a socialist country? They haven’t been a socialist country ever, they were a mixed socialist economy”
    .

    What does changing the retirement age have to do with the economy? Sweden was never a socialist country but had a socialist economy?
    .
    Really? You just got yourself laughed out out of any serious discussion.

    Stick with MoronMom and IQ5 and the mudslinging.

  • hippooath

    “Well which is it? I might have a point or your wrong? Seems psychotic episodes are taking over. You just want to p1ss at a conservative and your arguments become as amorphous as your liberal philosophy. As you go form pint A to point B with any liberal argument the wheels fall of the wagon”.
    .
    What about ‘you’re wrong’ don’t you understand? Was it to ambiguous for you? I dont post here to piss any conservative off. I’d love to have a discussion with a true conservative. I hear you Freeinpa, your need for self importance is noted. Happy?

  • afguy

    Ah, yes… Powerline.
    .
    A veritable “beacon” of unbiased information and reporting.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “In reality they don’t – it is just a refund of the taxpayers money.”
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    And layoffs in the for profit private sector I guess is just a refund of shareholder’s money.
    .
    Going out of business sales for private for profit businesses, I guess, then, is just a refund of the consumer’s money.
    .
    The three things Freak always fails to understand:
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    First it was the will of the people that schools be public, roads be public, fires get put out by government employees, that laws get enforced by public employees, etc, etc.
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    Second public schools, fire departments, police departments, public parks and so on, were created to facilitate profit earning private businesses.
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    For example:
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    No schools means that there will be extremely few functionally literate people to be qualified for anything that will work for for profit, privately owned businesses.
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    Both offices and homes near public parks have increased prices so that public parks and their maintenance are for the good of for profit privately owned businesses.
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    Public transit, also, as above, adds to the value of nearby homes, office space and realtial space.
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    Roads and rail are required for businesses to operate.
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    Third the money earned by tax paying public employees goes right back into private, for profit businesses since public employees, unlike their, now, unemployed counterparts, spend their money.
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    So, cut government services and what will happen?
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    The quality of potential labor will decline as schools are unable to teach at the levels they are at, crimes go unsolved, buses and trains do not get people to work, fires burn out of control. parks go from gathering places to eyesores and pothole filled roads damage cars and make commerce more difficult and less profitable.
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    Federal state and local governments make America far more profitable than third world countries.
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    Cut back on government services, the odds are, you cut back on GDP.

  • hippooath

    “A mixed economy (or balanced economy) is an economy that includes a variety of private and public control, reflecting characteristics of both capitalism and socialism.[1] Most mixed economies can be described as market economies with strong regulatory oversight, in addition to having a variety of government sponsored aspects. See (Elements of a mixed economy)”
    .
    Freeinpa,
    .
    Just because you’re ignorant doesn’t mean the rest of us are. This is called reality and how Sweden have been from the 30′s until the 2000 after they started selling out their part of the production. They we’re never a socialist country, but they did have a socialist democratic party that ran the country under this model.
    .
    That’s acknowledging the facts of their history. What were you saying? I’m not going to laugh you out of anything because to tell you the truth I never stopped smiling the instance you started posting here.

  • hippooath

    “Rusty, like most functioning alcoholics, has several ‘tells’ – verbal cues or signs that he’s imbibing. One of the more obvious ones is “my little friend” and its variants. Generally, Rusty will start dropping that phrase prolifically in posts date stamped later in the afternoon, usually around 5p-6p EDT. All capped strings of “AHAHA’s” are another one of his evening and weekend tells. Along with a general increase in belligerence as the day wears on.”
    .
    Couldn’t have said it better. The same thing I observed in my dad. It’s a pity it took the death of my mom to make him sober up. But 16 wonderful years of my dads alcoholism and I decided to avoid drinking myself.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “I’d love to have a discussion with a true conservative. I hear you Freeinpa, your need for self importance is noted.”
    .
    Hence, I would love to see a democratic ( note small d) vote of posters including conservatives and libertarians vote ban Freak from the site.
    .
    His arguments are repetitive and illogical. His sources are biased and extremist. His insults are incessant .
    .
    Freak just loves attention.
    .
    If this were a an unmoderated blog of conservatives, I bet Freak in pa would start posting things from the Communist manifesto just to get more attention.

  • hippooath

    “Maybe stuart will come slap morithemoron, IQ53, hippodork and a few others.”
    .
    Maybe. Or maybe he rather spend time on movement liberal stuff than get involved in mud wrestling. The bigger question is if I would really care or not. I’m not saying I wouldn’t but it wouldn’t be like the kind of emotional attachment you have with Glenn Beck or anything.

  • afguy

    I don’t think we’ve “lost” stuart as much as he’s “buzzing” us from time-to-time.
    .
    Last Friday, he posted a couple of comments during that blessed “quiet period” when the stars aligned. I’ve seen apollyon07 and Exiled periodically.
    .
    I think they’ll return when the signal quality doesn’t suck quite so badly.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “And the state’s march to bankruptcy?”
    .
    States all learned from God ( Ronald Reagan – not that JC guy in the bible, conservatives don’t like him very much) that to win elections, build up more and more debt. Cutting services interferes with the economy. So, they don’t usually do that. Cutting taxes gets you Republican votes. So, cut taxes and don’t hurt the local economy by cutting services create deficits.
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    If these states ever even tried to have a balanced budget during average times and tried to run surpluses during boom times by not giving away to the rich, there would be no problem now.

  • hippooath

    Patrick,
    .
    Two things. Could you please do me a favor and stop randomly bold stuff. I get it that you’re trying to highlight important stuff, but its no different than all caps.
    .
    Second – I am not in favor of having some kind of council of posters banning other posters. This is Times blog so I’d like for Time and a moderator to reinforce the rules of conduct. I know there will be a bunch of people hollering about their first amendment rights, but it doesn’t cover the right for others to read their stuff, nor does it cover what a privately owned for free blog service decides to do. Free speech does not require for you and I to listen to it, nor can it force a privately owned company to give it a open ‘mic’. That’s totalitarism.
    .
    I do not believe in purifying anything from bad elements. Who’s to say that this can’t apply to any of our comments back at Freeinpa?
    .
    I’m not pure as driven snow, but just as I have to suffer Freeinpas invectives I will fire as measured as I feel like it back at him.
    .
    So please – lets drop this whole drive to run people off. I’m all for moderation to reduce name calling, but I am not for us here deciding who’s deserving of it or not.
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    That’s what the scroll wheel is for.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Gum’s link:
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    .
    I like that link.

  • Matt

    Looks like even tea party governors are not immune to old fashioned street protests. Not good publicity when thousands of angry public employees literally storm the state capital over your centerpiece legislative goal. Scott Walker is in trouble…
    http://www.sunstateactivist.org

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Occam’s razor.”
    .
    I have a close relative who is an academic psychologist studying alcoholism. (A research fellow – paid student and assistant professor).
    .
    Alcohol abuse is many times more common than abuse of all other drugs combined. The reason: availability.
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    Even if I didn’t look like I was straight from central casting for the role of a police sergeant, which would, probably scare them away, I wouldn’t have the slightest idea where to even buy pot if I wanted to – much less harder drugs.
    .
    While I’d have to be blind not to know where to get a beer.
    .
    It’s probably cheap vodka Rusty’s guzzling like Jim Morison without the talent.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Still talking and saying nothing”
    .
    Auditory hallucinations? Hearing voices?
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    If 53 speaks in Washington State, Freak in Pa would be unable to hear him in Pa.
    .
    I always suspected that Freak was hearing voices and seeing little “wealth distributors” along with illegal immigrants and French people running around his house.

  • hippooath

    “Alcohol abuse is many times more common than abuse of all other drugs combined. The reason: availability.”
    .
    Plus its a historic drug as suppose to what some use today. It’s ‘legal’ and we’ve been around alcohol longer than most people drank fresh water. In some cases people drank alcohol because the water supply was bad.

  • squirmz

    I would like to know what about this protest, exactly, causes you refer to them as a “lawless mob?” Isn’t peaceful public protest one of the founding cornerstones of democracy?

  • afguy

    Dem Senators in Wisconsin have walked out, leaving the Senate without a quorum to vote on the lsgislation.
    .
    Gov is threatening to use State Police to round them up (didn’t Texas do that during re-districting?)
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    I’ve always wondered… if the legislators were to cross into a neighboring state, how could they be rounded up for a WI state activity? Who would be asked to enforce?

  • sacredh

    Just to throw my 2 cents in, but I’d prefer that the moderaters/High Sheriffs don’t ban people. I’m not much into the personal attack stuff but I swear a good bit and get a little crude every now and then. If they decide to have some sort of thread decorum, I’d probably be one of the first ones to get the boot. I think it was JNS that banned hussein11. I didn’t read what caused the ban but it couldn’t have been much worse than some of the things I’ve said.

  • newfreedomblog

    His arguments are repetitive and illogical. His sources are biased and extremist. His insults are incessant .
    .
    patty sartor just loves attention.

    .
    There fixed it for ya!!

  • np042

    I’m suprised it wasn’t a militant mob. Afterall, to textee, everyone is militant apparently.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “But patty sartor hasn’t been as active since jcapan slapped him down the other day.”
    .
    It was 24 hours before J said that he changed his mind and that you trolls are fed by Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and so over fed that you have plenty of vomit left over for us if I react to you or not.
    .
    I’ve had an amazing week for work, but, unlike Stuart, my work is about office spaces, insurance and other things only interesting to the people involved.
    .
    I’ve always made it clear that my work varies dramatically from time to time and when I am busy, Swampland has to be postponed.
    .
    But I am glad to know that Rusty misses me so much.
    .

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    If unions kill the economy then why was the economy growing while nearly 90% of workers were in unions?
    .
    Your claim that unions kill the economy has no historical evidence while my claim that unions have helped the economy has a ton of historical evidence–just look at the 1950s.

  • sacredh

    “Gov is threatening to use State Police to round them up (didn’t Texas do that during re-districting?)”
    .
    I think I recall that too. If I’m not mistaken they went across the border to Oklahoma but came back on their own.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Students joining a lawful protest!
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    My God, the humanity .
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    At this rate, if they know what protests are by age 15, then by eighteen, they might… voting!
    .
    We wouldn’t want any of that sissy, homosexual thing called a democratic government in America, textee, would we?
    .
    I mean being a real man involves sitting in front of a computer screen and after a liter of vodka and spouting out random talking points you were getting drunk to, not that homosexual thing called “voting”.
    .
    FWIW: Textee did refrain from his favorite topic, gay anal sex, for at least that one post. I’ll give him credit for that.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    No time to link – got to go somewhere soon – but in Texas the Democrats fled to Oklahoma (I believe that was the state) so that Texas Rangers didn’t have jurisdiction in forcing them back to the State House.
    .
    Here in New York, Democrats just locked the Republicans out a year and half or so ago.

  • allthingsinaname

    My understanding is that they left the State, and are beyond the the Jurisdiction of the State police. This is interesting indeed.

  • sacredh

    hippooath, my dad and his dad were big time boozers too. They had their own stills. My grandmother had hers too but she also grew and sold weed. I drank heavily in my mid 20′s but gave it up because I was getting arrested all the time for having too much fun and totaled 7 cars in 4-5 years. I don’t miss booze or drugs at all. Of course I get 90 muscle relaxers a month for back problems, but that’s medicine.

  • deconstructiva

    Sacred, Hussein attacked JNS personally, disparaging her looks (1/26 GOP two-headed response, you left a rose on her desk). She posted a warning …and it was obvious she was p1ssed off… but he piled on again and that did it. The words verbatim weren’t pottymouthed but the message / intent was. Some fragments of his comments are still there in other’s replies. The catch: he had done that before to her (rough on Joe too). 3x also added some harsh words against Jay but he survived.

  • afguy

    Yes, allthings, VERY.
    .
    I foresee a request from WI to whatever state’s governor to send them back. Question is, will said gov. want to open up THAT “can of worms” by honoring it.
    .
    My guess is, not only no but, h*ll no!

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    Even the fire fighters have been out protesting even though their union and collective bargaining rights are not in danger like the teachers’ union. Political payback maybe? Only three unions backed Walker in his bid for governor–the fire fighters were one of them.

  • sacredh

    Thanks deconstructiva. I remember seeing the aftermath but missed the actual fireworks. By the time I got there the offending comments were gone and all I saw were the fragments that you mentioned.

  • afguy

    erie,
    .
    Not surprising.
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    Unions tend to honor each other’s causes, because they can see that THEY may be next in the “line-of-fire”.

  • freeinpa

    Liberal profiles in courage. Another instance of “cut & run”

    A three-day-long stand-off at the Wisconsin state capitol between union supporters and those backing the Republican governor’s budget cuts just went to another level Thursday as Democratic senators apparently fled the state to prevent a vote on Gov. Scott Walker’s budget-repair bill, which would cut public employee union collective bargaining rights and require them to contribute to pensions and health care.

    Law enforcement has been sent to find missing Democratic lawmakers, according to a Madison, Wis. ABC affiliate. State Sen. leader Scott Fitzgerald said only one Democrat is needed for quorum to vote on the controversial bill, which is expected to pass a Republican-majority Senate. The “Sergeant of Arms is going door to door to find Democratic senators.”

  • allthingsinaname

    Furthermore, this broadside comes less than a month after the state’s fiscal bureau — the Wisconsin equivalent of the Congressional Budget Office — concluded that Wisconsin isn’t even in need of austerity measures, and could conclude the fiscal year with a surplus. In fact, they say that the current budget shortfall is a direct result of tax cut policies Walker enacted in his first days in office.

    “Walker was not forced into a budget repair bill by circumstances beyond he control,” says Jack Norman, research director at the Institute for Wisconsin Future — a public interest think tank. “He wanted a budget repair bill and forced it by pushing through tax cuts… so he could rush through these other changes.”
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    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/wisconsin-gov-walker-ginned-up-budget-shortfall-to-undercut-worker-rights.php?ref=fpa

  • freeinpa

    RUN FOREST RUN!!!

  • afguy

    free HATES unions. ALL of them. FULL STOP.

  • freeinpa

    Another finer example of over regulation bullying tactics by an unanswerable government agency that is destroying businesses.

    I wonder if the left will have the same outrage over the bullying tactics of this government agency as they did for Gov. Christie? Probably not they only show outrage against those who call out drains on society.

    CBS News takes NOAA Fisheries Management to the woodshed
    Mike Johnson
    Wow! What a nice job by CBS News, Armen Keteyian, and Katie Couric.

    On 16 February, CBS News devoted some four minutes to an investigative piece into the scandal that should have rocked NOAA and the Obama administration last fall. Our government is driving the fishing industry into oblivion with “unduly complicated” regulations and with federal agents who are “overzealous” and prone to “abusive conduct.”

    The piece opened with Bill Lee, a fisherman from Rockport, MA, who has been forced out of business by the fines levied by NOAA. Mr. Lee is articulate and the photogenic background of Motif No. 1 is emblematic of New England. CBS got the sound bite but they are constrained by time. A more in depth coverage of Mr. Lee’s ordeal is given in Richard Gaines’ article in the Gloucester Times.

    Mr. Keteyian next spoke to Richard Burgess, another fisherman. Mr. Burgess told of being fined $27,000 for a paperwork error and being told that if he contested the fine, it could go up to $125,000 or more. You can view Mr. Burgess’ testimony to Congress on that incident and others at the link. Mr. Burgess said on camera to CBS, “[We are] hardworking people and we’ve been treated as common criminals.” Ouch!

    The outrages were investigated by the Department of Congress Inspector General (IG), who confirmed the fishermen’s complaints. See my American Thinker essay on “NOAA’s Law Enforcement Behaving Badly.” CBS addressed the NOAA Law Enforcement “Shredding Party” where the director of NOAA’s Office of Law Enforcement shredded some 70-80% of his documents before the IG ever got to see them.

  • hippooath

    “Of course I get 90 muscle relaxers a month for back problems, but that’s medicine.”
    .
    It’s funny how the perception of legal and illegal drugs are. Kind of like boobs and guns. Boobs is bad, guns good. Americans like both, but have a moral dilemma with one of them.

  • 53_3

    I don’t think banning them is a good idea.
    .
    I’ve always felt it was much better to shame them…

  • hippooath

    “liter of vodka”
    .
    Uh oh, you didn’t pull out the commie/fascist metric system did you?
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    Sh!t, thats it…you’re exactly one inch closer to a verbal spanking from textee if he would ever notice.

  • hippooath

    “”He wanted a budget repair bill and forced it by pushing through tax cuts… so he could rush through these other changes.”"
    .
    Like the current tax cut; they should have ended it. But lo and behold as soon as the new deficit was revealed it was HIGHER, due to the fact that we continued the tax cut and the righwing ideologues went ballistic, accusing liberals for destroying the economy. Talk about a mental disconnect.
    .
    And where’s MSM on this? Crickets. Why should they report on the actual background to our problems when news sells when people are running around screaming with their heads on fire.
    .
    But ideologues won’t back down from this; our exploding deficit and that of Wisconsin is an excuse to accuse liberals of destroying America and to pummel the middle class until the bottoms fall out and we go the way of Rome and all other Empires. Facts be damned.

  • freeinpa

    “due to the fact that we continued the tax cut”
    .
    Repeating the same bat crap crazy left wing blog lie doesn’t make it true.
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    If you “continue” a tax rate it has no impact on revenue or the deficit. The only impact on deficit is spending. The problem is spending continues to outstrip revenues.
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    Why doesn’t the left ever hide when it comes to spending money?

    RUN FOREST RUN!

  • afguy

    Depends on where you’re carrying that particular “gun”.
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    Anyone remember the ditty recruits were required to supposedly required to recite if they called their rifle by the wrong name?
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    They were required to walk with one hand holding their “privates” and the other holding the rifle reciting:
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    “This is my weapon and this is my gun. This one’s for shooting and this one’s for fun.”
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    Kinda gives the term “gun control” a new twist, doesn’t it?

  • hippooath

    “RUN FOREST RUN!”
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    I really don’t understand what you mean by that. It’s kind of silly but whatever.
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    So if you’re 100 dollar in the hole, you make 80 and you have 100 dollars in expenses you’re not 120 dollar in hole next time?
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    Look, I get it – you don’t like taxes. But there’s no reason to make basic math up just to prove a point. It’s easier to have ideas to fix problems than continue ignoring them because you don’t like the problem.
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    You say that we have 100 and used to have 80 dollar in expenses. Then we suddenly had 120, so we should lower our expenses. Sounds awesome. but reality is that we had 100, took a loan so we could make 80, just as much as we had expenses then increased them to 100 and now sufferes a revenue shortfall. We still need to pay down the loan we got.
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    Furthermore, you want to cut the expenses we took from 1-80, not the ones we added up to 81-100. Not only are you ignoring the real problem, you also want to cut into stuff that didn’t impact the expenses to begin with.
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    Simple – put measures in place to lower cost – increase the revenue back up and pay down the loan. No more deficit and loan. It’s basic math. Not liberal, not anything. What you do when you don’t let your partisan nature get in the way.
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    When we’re running a surplus again we can start talking about lowering taxes in order to keep everyone happy. No, I don’t want more entitlements, I just want to live in a functional society.

  • afguy

    It’s a “Forest Gump” reference – a line from the movie.
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    Forest was a little “challenged”… it’s his version of an insult for the moment.

  • freeinpa

    State by state thhe American people are standing up and saying “we are mad as hell and we are not going to take it anymore”!!!

    NASHVILLE — Tennessee school districts would no longer have to engage in negotiations with teachers’ unions under a measure that is headed for a full Senate vote despite opposition from hundreds of state teachers.

  • deconstructiva

    …if they can be shamed at all. Some just don’t give a damn.

  • hippooath

    “It’s a “Forest Gump” reference – a line from the movie.
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    Forest was a little “challenged”… it’s his version of an insult for the moment.”
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    I know where the reference comes from (love that movie) but it came across like the village idiot telling Forest to run. Odd, that’s all.

  • afguy

    Well, given who we’re dealing with here, you may have a point about “village idiot”…

  • hippooath

    Right, the American people have spoken again? Is that why GOP won in November? Because the American people wanted to kick on teachers?
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    When you’re done molesting the phrase the inventor would like some royalties.

  • troubador222

    Its only going to get worse.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Rusty, IOW, you are saying:
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    Did I mention the complete absence of creativity of wingnut trolls?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “I’m not much into the personal attack stuff but I swear a good bit and get a little crude every now and then.”
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    Actually, you are crude (in a hilarious way) very often.
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    More importantly, though you completely lack viciousness.
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    For viciousness in response to the same, I would be at higher risk than you by a long shot.
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    I don’t think there are too many prudish posters or even prudish lurkers who would vote you off of the island. I think you’d do just fine.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Yeah, you got it, freak.
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    Instead of shutting down the Republicans, they should have dressed up in Revolutionary War Costumes, brought along guns and gotten a Jared Loughner to shoot Republicans in the head.
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    I am sure you would have liked that better.

  • sacredh

    Thanks patrick but I think hussein11, Bruce majors and one or two others might diagree about me not being at least a little vicious once in a while. Although I admit that I sometimes do it just for fun and practice.

  • http://sedonamike.wordpress.com sedonamike86336

    What about we are broke do people not understand? Everyone has to kick in. At least they have jobs unlike 16% of the people who are unemployed (includes those who have given up looking). I am tired of complaints from people who are working! Give it a rest.

  • apr2563

    For the crazy reactionary file:
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    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945679/-Beck-warns-against-searching-his-conspiracy-theories-on-Google
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    Beck warns against searching his conspiracy theories on Google
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    “Remember, maybe this is explaining why Google is being kicked out of all the other countries. Are they just a shill now for the United States government? Who is Jared Cohen? Is he a private citizen or government operative? And isn’t this the second Google guy we’ve found? This is the second Google executive now being exposed as an instigator of a revolution.”

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