Re: Re: So Much For Thou Shalt Not Kill

It seems ever since they won the House, the GOP has done it’s best to do itself in.
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When one thinks about this bill in light of the Giffortds attack, I think people are realizing that hate maybe should not be a part of public discourse, and, an actual bill that in a shadowy way might legalize the more sinister activities under cover of religion might be going just a bit too far.

…Giffords…

Thanks Amy, but do the culture warriors care about PR? Or only about the ends and to hell with the means to get there? Alas, these aren’t rhetorical q’s; the consequences of misplaced devotions are scary (Rachel Maddow has asked tough q’s here.). If one’s pro-life how can one ever justify taking another life, any other? Let God deal with that.

In the begin
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God went to an abortion clinic.

Get some sleep liberal.
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I have an excuse:
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I’m up because I have to nursmaid processes running on my work computer…

I am in CA it’s not 10 pm yet. Good luck with the comp.

The cultural warriors just need to stay out of every’s personal life and quit trying to turn us into a theocracy.

This should put to rest any pretense that this is a “christian” nation and that the Republicans actually represent anything but the base part of the American experience. Substitute “black” and you could be anywhere down here in the South in the 1900′s and get your own white hood!

It sounds like they want a federal civil rights experience in their state and federal grand juries don’t play games and federal judges don’t give passes.

I notice that the Republicans didn’t ask for the stopping of those agricultural “socialist” farm subsidities.

“Dave Leach, an Iowa anti-abortion activist, praised the bill, saying it could end abortions in South Dakota by scaring away doctors or by establishing grounds for someone to kill those who stay. There may be something I’m overlooking, but from all appearances, this bill would certainly justify an individual taking the life of an abortionist in order to save human lives,” he said.”
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I think this makes Dave more of a terrorist than an activist.

art- Ma and Pa Cargill and that nice Mr Archer Daniels Midand who lives just a stretch down that there road need the help.

This is a truly outrageous and an utterly reckless piece of legislation. What other political targets would Republican lawmakers make amenable to “justifiable homicide”? Democratic lawmakers? Environmental activists?
http://www.sunstateactivist.org

It wasn’t that long ago when lynchings were considered ‘justifiable homicide. It’s helpful to remember that we really haven’t come as far as we give ourselves credit for.

“When one thinks about this bill in light of the Giffortds attack, I think people are realizing that hate maybe should not be a part of public discourse”
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We have been hearing this from the left as they continue to sanctimoniously say we must have civil discourse. Right before they continue their verbal assault on the right.
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At first it was just blatant hypocrisy now its just rank stupidity

“We have been hearing this from the left as they continue to sanctimoniously say we must have civil discourse. Right before they continue their verbal assault on the right.”
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You’ve got to be fcking shtting me, Freak.
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This is about a bunch of lunatics who are considering making homicide of your political opponents legal and yet you are claiming that “the left” is being uncivil?
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What would you say if New York State, California, Massachusetts, Wisconsin or Washington State, for example made the killing of anybody worked on death row in any state into justifiable homicide?
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You’d be going psycho.
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I, personally, am opposed to both the death penalty and abortion, but, do not believe that the solution to killing is more killing.
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I see no difference in the moral quality between an abortion doctor and the ones who pull the switch on death row.
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Better yet, imagine if the murder of all people involved in executions including governors who allowed it is considered justifiable homicide in blue states.
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You can be pro-life and still find this bill morally reprehensible .
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Yet to take the trashing of a morally reprehensible bill and making your claims about the left is pathetic.
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But your debates are almost always pathetic.

Here is the “civility” offered by the left in recent weeks.

A rally called “Uncloaking the Kochs”, sponsored by several progressive liberal groups such as Code Pink, Common Cause, AFFCE, The Ruckus Society, 350, Greenpeace, Progressive Democrats of America and others was staged outside the Kock Brothers Conservative conference attended by Republican Conservatives and successful business people at a resort in Palm Springs, California.

While the mainstream news media covered a portion of the rally protest, reported on some arrests for trespassing, and some bloggers taunted those on the right of the political spectrum, none of them presented what really happened at the rally.

As reported and filmed by Christian Hartsock, demonstrators at a liberal “progressive” rally in Palm Springs, California called for US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to be hanged, strung up, tortured, sent back to the fields, among other comments about Tea Party members and Conservatives.
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or

.”Lawrence O’Donnell Calls GOP Congressman a ‘Tax Criminal’ for Sleeping in His Office”

Judge, jury and Executioner

BTW: A quick search of O’Donnell calling Charley Rangel a tax criminal produced no hits

Rev JIm

One handed typing again I see

“God went to an abortion clinic.”
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And brought peace love and forgiveness.
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Oh, wrong God.
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I thought you bringing up that Jesus Christ guy.
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Ronald Reagan, as the Tea Party dreams of him went to an abortion clinic and shot up the place with his AK-47, mercilessly shot everybody until the word “Cut”! and the director steps out of his chair to shake Ronny’s hand as the “dead” extras playing doctors, nurses and patients wash go back to the dressing room to wash off the fake blood.
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Next scene, The Gipper rides a horse into the sunset as a trail of hundreds of unwed mothers chase him yelling “But without welfare, how are these kids going to eat?”.
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From his horse as it drops a pile of crap, he says, “Well, now that they’re born who give a flying duck”
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THE END

You’re not carrying too much water, are you?
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Rush Limbaugh doesn’t like it when you carry an empty bucket, freeinpa…

good.
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Now repeat after me:
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“I will not use religion to demonize”
“I will not use religion to demonize”
“I will not use religion to demonize”
“I will not use religion to demonize”
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So let me see if I’ve got this straight. A plant goes to a large left-wing rally in Palm Springs and manages to find one person engaged in violent rhetoric and this is supposed to be morally equivalent to a State Legislature legalizing murder?
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Got it……..

:So let me see if I’ve got this straight. A plant goes to a large left-wing rally in Palm Springs and manages to find one person engaged in violent rhetoric and this is supposed to be morally equivalent to a State Legislature legalizing murder?”
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No surprise you didn’t get it straight—again! No one was talking moral equivalence to anything . I was addressing the nonsense the left here and elsewhere peddles about “civility”. Beyond you missing the premise, it was a Tea Party event (unless now you consider them left-wing) and had left loons protesting out front calling for the torture and lynching of Clarence Thomas. All ignored by the MSM. It points to the fact that “civility” like most values to the left is a punch line, they are open racists and just out and out hypocrits.

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As far as legalizing murder, it is at best a stretch to interpret that law as such just as the AZ illegal immigrant law was profiling. But truth is a foreign concept to the left when you have special interest groups (voters) to bribe
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“You’re not carrying too much water”
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Still denying the fact that the biggest racists and media condoned is the left

“The cultural warriors just need to stay out of every’s personal life ”
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Deal if the re-distributionists stay out of my wallet!

Maybe they are trying to help Ted Turner and Sam Donaldson get an early retirement or in the case of Turner better mental health care

“It wasn’t that long ago when lynchings were considered ‘justifiable homicide”
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I guess that would include a certain Supreme Court Justice

“.”Lawrence O’Donnell Calls GOP Congressman a ‘Tax Criminal’ for Sleeping in His Office”

Judge, jury and Executioner

BTW: A quick search of O’Donnell calling Charley Rangel a tax criminal produced no hits”
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This is the same as as proposing a bill that might motivate someone to murder someone else?
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I personally don’t know if this nill can be used to justify murder. But as false equivalence goes this is not even apples and oranges territory. More like pears and green peppers.

A rally called “Uncloaking the Kochs”, sponsored by several progressive liberal groups such as Code Pink, Common Cause, AFFCE, The Ruckus Society, 350, Greenpeace, Progressive Democrats of America and others was staged outside the Kock Brothers Conservative conference

A Tea party rally?

The subject of the thread is rewriting a law to expand justifiable homocide to include killing abortion providers. Measured in terms of how much harm can result, your attempts to invoke chanting in Palm Spriings is a particularly inane distraction.

Sometimes I wonder why the GOP doesn’t just try to pass a bill making it legal to shoot women on sight. You know, just to clear out the vermin and save them a lot of trouble.

Lat time I checked, he was still alive, on the Court, and no one had threatened to kill him.
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But if you’ve got something concrete, beside the lame accusation made by a fellow GOP member during the confirmation hearings, we’d love to hear about it.
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And DO provide a reputable link to such, not just something from “RW Rumor Central”…

So Freep, answer me this:.
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You are using the words of, at most, a handful of people at an event to broadly paint over the entire liberal/progressive population. By the same logic, is it also ok to call Tea Partiers racists, bigots, homophobes, etc based on the words of a handful of tea partiers?

But who would make dinner and do the laundry then?!?!
/tongueincheek

I can’t wait for the urban counties to choke off the funds for your county, freenpa.
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I can’t wait for the lessons you’ll learn.
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And guess who’s leading such a revolt in King County, WA?
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A republican.
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Excuse me while I laugh at the idea of watching freeinpa choking down his own medicine…

This bill looks to me to be the same as when the fundamentalists tried to pass off Intelligent Design as something other than Creationism. We can’t teach Creationism in public schools? Well, let’s call it something else then.

Deal if the re-distributionists stay out of my wallet!
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…and the roads to HIS house stays in good repair.

If an infant survives an abortion, but the abortionist and/or the mother of that infant still intends on executing that infant, does anyone object to someone killing the abortionist and/or the mother of that infant in order to protect the infant from being summarily executed? If so, why?

Also, given the fact that Obama religiously supports killing infants who survive abortions, what would Obama have to say if someone attempting to protect such an infant had to kill the abortionist and/or the mother of of such infants in order to save the life of such an infant?

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53 @ 4.1, “I will not use religion to demonize.” That would be the clowns on the left whose religion is: Mother Earth, the Green Movement, Global Warming fanaticism, and Wicca. Just ask Pat.
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FYI, the Bible isn’t a religion; it’s a book. A book that outlines and records the spiritual history of mankind. You don’t need to join a religion to read it. It is used by many religions and demonized by many, including the left wing wackos of this world.
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You don’t know when life begins, so repeat:
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I will not play God.
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I will not play God.
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I will not play God.
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I will not play God.

1.4, “You’ve got to be fcking shtting me, Freak.”
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This from the cry baby clown who yesterday was advocating for a hall monitor.

FYI, the Bible isn’t a religion; it’s a book. A book that outlines and records the spiritual history of mankind.

FYI, no it doesn’t. It roughl records the history of one small region of the world, the ~3 years of teaching and death of one man, the teachings and actions of his followers following his death, and the travels and letters of another man. That hardly accounts for “mankind.”

…and what about those darned 10 commandments, liberal?
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Now tell me:
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Why were they cast in stone.
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David Leach says “this bill will end abortions in South Dakota” — there are some missing words here. This bill might end MEDICALLY SAFE abortions, but not abortions. Women were getting abortions long before they were legal, and will continue to get them if they are again made illegal. The difference is, they will be going back to back-alley/coat hanger illegal and dangerous abortions — and more young women will die.