Can Orrin Hatch Tame the Tea Party?

The Tea Party doesn’t have a leader, but it does play favorites. Several of them turned up Tuesday night for a Congressional town hall hosted by the Tea Party Express and billed as the first of its kind. Crammed into an airless conference room at Washington’s National Press Club, the standing-room crowd was energized and eclectic. A tricorn-hatted revolutionary hovered near a woman in a hijab. Activists snapped pictures and gave rousing ovations as movement stalwarts Rand Paul, Michele Bachmann, Steve King, and newcomers Allen West and Mike Lee pledged fealty to Tea Party principles.

The senior statesman of the group arrived first, which was fitting, because he had the most to prove. “I for one want to thank the tea party for what they’ve done,” Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah said. Unsure of how to respond, the crowd cautiously murmured its thanks. Unlike his counterparts, Hatch isn’t a star in the constellation of the Tea Party Express, one of a handful of national groups who last spring helped Lee cashier Utah’s junior senator, Bob Bennett. Hatch was on hand as part of his ongoing effort to avoid a similar fate. Tea Party Express chairman Amy Kremer made clear he had work to do. “He invited himself,” she told CNN. “All I can say is he needs to be ready to answer the tough questions.” (For his part, Hatch told TPM that he was invited.)

After giving effusive welcomes to Paul and co., Kremer welcomed Hatch with all the enthusiasm of a PA announcer introducing the visiting team’s starters. Hatch, who’s up for re-election in 2012, was eager to kiss rings. He laced his opening remarks with Tea Party keywords, bemoaning the “monstrosity” of the health-care law, stressing his record of seeking a balanced-budget amendment, plugging the Tea Party triumvirate of limited government, fiscal responsibility and free markets, and offering bromides about taking America back. Hatch has a diffident manner, and his dour remarks – “We are living in perilous times” – drew a polite but muted response, with only a smattering of cheers. Bachmann, by contrast, entered late and drew wild applause when she warned that our ability to pass the torch of freedom to our offspring was “up for grabs on the table.”

If the Tea Party hasn’t embraced Hatch, their frostiness toward his candidacy has thawed considerably. That alone is an achievement. Hatch has been a senator for 34 years, which is itself a fatal flaw for the insurrectionists eager to purge the party’s dinosaurs. (When he mentioned the length of his tenure, a man behind me muttered, “Time to move on.”) Since coming to Washington, he’s committed enough apostasies to flunk any Tea Party purity test. Hatch voted for TARP, sponsored the DREAM Act, and has a record of forging alliances with Democrats like the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, with whom he worked on broadening children’s health-insurance coverage.  David Kirkham, the founder of the Utah Tea Party, says that when he organized the group’s first gathering in the spring of 2009, he did so out of dissatisfaction with three people: George W. Bush, Bennett, and Hatch, whose staff got wind of the gathering and called to see about getting the Senator a speaking slot. “We basically told him to drop dead,” Kirkham recalls.

Bennett’s camp inquired about the event too. But whereas the junior senator wrote off the group’s support after getting rebuffed, Hatch chipped away. He invited Kirkham to his office for what turned into a marathon meeting. They didn’t agree, but Hatch listened, and since then, the two have remained in close contact, speaking on the phone as often as three times a week, Kirkham says. Hatch called on Kirkham’s birthday. He called during Elena Kagan’s nomination fight, before the Democrats’ omnibus bill died in December, and during the earmark debate. Hatch dialed Kirkham a few minutes before Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell capitulated to the backlash against the pet projects, effectively sealing the party’s earmark moratorium. “I know Orrin had some influence on that, and I hope we had some influence on Orrin,” says Kirkham.

This extensive Tea Party outreach, which Hatch has been conducting with numerous activists in his home state, dovetails with the senator’s recent move to the right, which may in turn have been driven by the impulse for self-preservation. On top of his about-face on earmarks, Hatch dropped his support for the DREAM Act in the face of the GOP’s animus for amnesty and made mea culpas for his TARP vote. Faced with the prospect of fending off a challenge from his right flank, he has started hiring campaign advisers and stockpiling his war chest. He reported $2.5 million in the bank at the end of 2010—dwarfing, for example, the total reported by Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a House star rumored to be mulling a Senate bid.

“This is probably as early as a campaign has ever started, and one of the reasons is our process,” says Dave Hansen, who resigned as Utah’s Republican Party chairman to manage Hatch’s re-electioncampaign. Utah has a quirky nominating system that allows just 3,500 Republican party delegates tap a nominee in a state with almost 3 million people. The delegates, who are elected at precinct meetings a few weeks before the nominating convention, are extremely conservative, even for ruby-red Utah. About one-quarter of the state’s delegates are members of Tea Party or 9/12 groups; perhaps another 50% align with them ideologically. When I wrote about Bennett’s impending ouster back in May, political scientists told me the Senator would likely have survived under any other system.

“There’s no question,” says Kirkham, “the convention process in Utah makes political candidates more beholden to the delegates.” Hansen doesn’t dispute that claim. “When you’re dealing with a universe of 3,500 people, if you work hard enough you can find out where those delegates stand.” What’s more, if fieldwork suggests a certain delegate is dead set against Hatch, the campaign can try to find a sympathetic replacement.

With all the work he’s done, could Hatch finagle an endorsement from a group whose founding principle was, in part, to engineer his demise? “No chance,” says Kirkham, who later tacked on the caveat that he might change if Hatch’s main challenger is a moderate like former Gov. Jon Huntsman. “An endorsement is one thing. Tolerance is another.” After the ease with which the Tea Party dispatched Bennett, if tolerance is on offer this time around Hatch may consider himself lucky.

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  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    “Hatch, who’s up for re-election in 2012, was eager to kiss rings.”

    Yup, Obama’s kissing the chamber’s rings. And Orrin Hatch is moving to the right. Isn’t there a limit to how far right they can go before they hit some type of barrier? I believe it’s labeled “Mussolini,” right?

    Seriously, 2012 is shaping up to be 1968, minus Hubert Humphrey. It’ll be Obama (Nixon) vs. [insert prospective loon] (George Wallace). We are all Ronald Reagan’s b!tches now.

    And here’s hoping you managed to sneak a shower in after that experience Alex.

  • liberalmeltdown

    Actually Mussolini was a Communist. He came from the left. Organizing unions and such. I don’t think that the Tea Party is into union organizing or community organizing. Kinda blows your whole premise.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    If you ignore the last 30 years of his life, yes, you could call him as a socialist.
    .
    But then, under your warped logic, we could call Ronald Reagan a democrat. All that happened after 1962, irrelevant.

  • Cliff

    Actually Mussolini was a Communist.
    .
    That is f*cking retarded.
    .

    Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) started his political life as a socialist and in 1912, was appointed editor of Avanti, a leading socialist newspaper. During the Great War, Mussolini was expelled from the Socialist Party for advocating Italy’s entrance into battle. He organized the Fascist Party immediately following the war. By exploiting general fears of labor unrest and communism, Mussolini gained his followers among war veterans and the middle class. Mussolini organized his March on Rome in 1922 in order to bring down the government. King Victor Emmanuel, fearful of a civil war, appointed Benito Mussolini prime minister.

    .
    http://www.historyguide.org/europe/duce.html

  • apr2563

    liberalmeltdown is spouting the Jonah Goldberg/Glen Beck theology that spins every fasciest into a communist. There is no logic to their theory so not worth disputing. Of course, Beck has now thrown in a Caliphate.

  • apr2563

    Classy bunch of people TPers.

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/02/invitegate_breaks_out_over_dc.php
    .

    Orrin Hatch gets buffeted in the merciless winds of Tea Party politics. Was he invited to tonight’s Tea Party townhall in DC, as he claims? Or did he show up uninvited, as the President of the Tea Party Express claims?
    .
    The founder of Tea Party Express, Sal Russo, is a longtime GOP operative. And he’s recently come out in support of Hatch. He says Hatch was invited. But the actual president of the group does not seem down at all with the effort to Tea Partyize Orrin and seemed inclined to go out of her way to embarrass Hatch. Whether he was invited or just invited himself isn’t clear and is perhaps more of a semantic point. But it’s a heckuva position for a seventy-something six-term senator to find himself in.

  • Cliff

    Yeah, I realize that that’s what they do, it’s one of their things nowadays, to pretend facists were actually communists.
    .
    But I couldn’t help myself in this case, because Mussolini’s whole deal was being a Fascist. He created the Fascist Party.

  • http://fulcrumbc.wordpress.com steelwheel25

    Senator Hatch is wasting his time kissing these people’s butts and whoring himself in an effort to appease these people. They will use him like towelette paper for the remainder of his term and the flush him in 2012. I Senator Hatch, you really need to run as a conservative independent.

  • Paul-no not that one

    While endless speculation about elections to be held over a year and a half from now is fun this is a little more current.
    .
    “House rejects measure that would extend key Patriot Act provisions through December”
    .
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/02/ahead-of-patriot-act-vote-some.html?hpid=topnews
    .
    “Ohio Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich, who voted against the measure in 2001, released a statement Monday calling Tuesday’s House vote “the tea party’s first test.”
    .
    “The 112th Congress began with a historic reading of the U.S. Constitution,” Kucinich said. “Will anyone subscribe to the First and Fourth Amendments tomorrow when the PATRIOT Act is up for a vote? I am hopeful that members of the Tea Party who came to Congress to defend the Constitution will join me in challenging the reauthorization.”
    .
    Strange bedfellows indeed.

  • Matt

    Hatch and the other Republican “moderates” fighting the inexorable rise of the far-right have no chance of appeasing the tea party. We’ve seen plenty of instances last year where veteran GOP lawmakers went down in primaries based on nothing more than a single past instance of, say, co-sponsoring legislation with a Democrat or voting for one bill that somehow breaks the tea party code. Hatch is DOA…
    http://www.sunstateactivist.org

  • hippooath

    “Actually Mussolini was a Communist. He came from the left. Organizing unions and such. I don’t think that the Tea Party is into union organizing or community organizing. Kinda blows your whole premise.”
    .
    RDW spouts that same ignorant stuff. Glenn Beck is really promoting a generation of dumbwitted induviduals. The perfect mob.
    .
    But I’m not surprised, I had a guy who called himself a ‘amateur historian’ tell me that King George was the liberal of the day that was defeated by the conservative revolutionaries. That was pretty hilarious. The King of England the great liberal. He had to say it though since he wanted to deny just how influences our founders were of the enlightment movement. To him it all was the tea party like conservatives that founded this nation. He of course rejected the idea that had it not been for the liberal leaning new enlightment ideas we would still be a colony under the conservative English sovereign sphere of influence.

  • kbanginmotown

    Hatch voted for TARP, sponsored the DREAM Act, and has a record of forging alliances with Democrats like the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, with whom he worked on broadening children’s health-insurance coverage.

    This. Hatch took the “promote the general welfare” portion of the preamble too literally.

  • newfreedomblog

    Kinda puts a kink in the liberal meme that the Tea Party members are all a bunch of far right zealots doesn’t it?

  • Paul-no not that one

    Not even a little.
    .
    Just the opposite. And that’s a compliment as I expected them to be co-opted by now.

  • Alex Vallas

    I have yet to figure out what the Tea Party is and who leads it. To me it looks like a bunch of disgruntled individuals with a wide range of opposing opinions amongst themselves. They shoot first without thought or analysis of what impact their comments and opinions have on the country. Some of Rand Paul’s comments makes one wonder about his intelligence and research. For a physician he doesn’t seem to care about the welfare of the middle class or for that matter people in general. Bachman is Sarah Palin in not so obvious disguise. Scary!!! And that’s for starters.

  • kbanginmotown

    Interesting, too, that the most of the TP freshmen voted *for* the Patriot Act Extension.
    .
    Which limited government are they for, again?

  • thethirdcell

    TWO COWS:

    DEMOCRAT
    You have two cows.
    Your neighbor has none.
    You feel guilty for being successful.
    You push for higher taxes so the government can provide cows for everyone.

    REPUBLICAN
    You have two cows.
    Your neighbor has none.
    So?

    SOCIALIST
    You have two cows.
    The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.
    You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow.

    COMMUNIST
    You have two cows.
    The government seizes both and provides you with milk.
    You wait in line for hours to get it.
    It is expensive and sour.

    BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE
    You have two cows.
    Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain.

    AMERICAN CORPORATION
    You have two cows.
    You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one.
    You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when one cow drops dead. You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses.
    Your stock goes up.

    CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE
    You have two cows.
    You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.
    You find out it’s too expensive to hire American’s to milk the cows, so you use illegal immigrants.
    The government finds out that you are using illegals and raids the farm. The illegals escape to a sanctuary city and live off of the taxpayers.
    The farms desperate, ship the cows to China. China now has 70% of all milk production in the world and sells it back to the United States at a premium.
    The milk consuming public reports massive outbreaks of disease.
    It is discovered that the milk was never properly pasteurized.
    Investigations lead to the arrest of FDA and USDA officials, who are accused of taking bribes from Chinese Milk Industry lobbyists.
    The outcry is tremendous; with Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh assure the public that it will be corrected by Nuking China.
    Making speeches, they’re shown holding an AK-47, while draped in an American Flag, as fighter jets scream overhead in the shape of a Cross, as they shout “God bless America”
    Millions of weeping Americans sign up for military service!
    The Wall Street Power Brokers see their stocks in defense company’s triple in value. They congratulate themselves on fooling the gullible American public for another 4 years and put in place a plan for the next half century!
    The farmers are given new cows and repopulate the farms, using cheap American Labor, which now has to work at minimum wage due to overseas outsourcing.
    American’s because they have to work so cheap, now have no money to spend except for food and shelter. The country goes into a deep recession and never recovers.

    FROM DISPOSABLE INCOME TO DISPOSABLE PEOPLE, THIRTY YEARS OF FAILED REAGANOMICS!!

  • http://redstatedebate.wordpress.com redstatedebate

    Where are the people that actually agree with your liberal spin?

    I have lived my whole life and I don’t know but one or two people that would agree with anything you say.

    There must be some isolated pockets of liberals that put this crap out.

    The Tea Party is fine – It represents the people of America that have been silent too long — As Obama wakes up the masses with his commie tendencies, the tea part will just grow larger, and larger, and larger, and larger….

    Here is something that makes more sense

    Has The Cheese Slid Off Of Chris Matthews’ Cracker?

    http://conservativeblogscentral.blogspot.com/2011/02/has-cheese-slid-off-of-chris-matthewss.html

  • paulejb

    apr2563,

    Not every fascist is a socialist, but you have to admit that they’re kissing cousins.

  • paulejb

    apr2653@2,

    How odd. A politician shows up at a townhall meeting and politics breaks out. What would you expect, apr?

  • sacredh

    “I have lived my whole life”
    .
    Me too. We have much in common.

  • hippooath

    “apr2563,
    .
    Not every fascist is a socialist, but you have to admit that they’re kissing cousins.”
    .
    Only if you ignore all the political science first.
    .
    It’s like saying progressivism and conservatism is the same because they’re usually found in democracies. That of course ignores all the history and the relevant differences.
    .
    Not even socialist democracies would make claim that they’re related to fascist political parties. And as generally noticed in countries that have neo Nazi parties (fascist) and socialist parties they’re dynamically opposed in almost all political ways.

  • hippooath

    “The Tea Party is fine – It represents the people of America that have been silent too long — As Obama wakes up the masses with his commie tendencies, the tea part will just grow larger, and larger, and larger, and larger….”
    .
    Like cancer it feeds the most on mucus and sugar. And it grows larger and larger.
    .
    And eventually the growing mass of old people needs a nap. Or they see another squirrel.

  • outsider2011

    That was brilliant!

  • sacredh

    “And eventually the growing mass of old people needs a nap. Or they see another squirrel.”
    .
    You have to admit though that they’re one of the more interesting groups to emerge on the political scene in the last quarter century. I don’t see how they can expand their base by gaining allies. They aren’t interested in compromise or accomodation so they have to have converts. The ideological purity tests are going to limit their growth and if the Tea Party members already elected start compromising they’re going to face the wrath of the Tea Party electorate. I think we can add TPINO to RINO and DINO.

  • hippooath

    If by wrath you mean being gummed to death; maybe. They’ll notice quite soon that in their final oxygen filled breath they might have smacked US dominance clearly and maybe for good down the ladder.
    .
    It’s ironic that people with so many commie fearing squirrel moments have no problem protecting the interest of China over the wellbeing of all Americans.
    .
    The my tribe people just simply hate that regular people have disposable income that they allow the interest of multi national corporations destroy whatever industrial base we have left in favor of China so they can all live in fear of the imagined Obama commie/russkie ghost. It’s comical.
    .
    What the gastric tea party will do to this country in a few years will be felt for decades.

  • sacredh

    “If by wrath you mean being gummed to death; maybe.”
    .
    By wrath, I meant primaries and votes. I agree that the Tea Party is doing more harm than good, but it still surprises me how much influence they have within their party. I think they’ll be using Hatch and other republicans for votes up until the primary season starts and then back their own candidates. They even seem to be up-front about it. Hatch and others like him would be much more successful in the general election than they will be within their own primary races.
    .
    Of course I could be wrong, but it seems to me that their success in the short term is going to result in their failure in the long haul.

  • hippooath

    “By wrath, I meant primaries and votes. I agree that the Tea Party is doing more harm than good, but it still surprises me how much influence they have within their party.”
    .
    Of course; GOP have always been driven by hysteria. Anything that says enough squirrels drive the discussion. That’s because they suck at policy.
    .
    And you’re right; this is bad in the long haul because they’re moving towards the fringe and the fringe don’t generate good candidates. Look at Angel. That’s the kinds of candidates you get when you eventually fall for all the batsh!t crazy stuff you want to drive into the political discourse and it will drive away not only the pudgy middle but anyone that could think about voting for you.
    .
    Short term it gets their base electrified and energized but long term you only have your base and a bunch of crazy say no candidates that make things like flag burning a priority while the actual country is on fire.
    .
    As I wrote. Squirrel.

  • paulejb

    hippooath@1.8,

    I do know that “progressive” is the term used by liberals who refuse to admit that they are liberals.

    I do know that Benito Mussolini began his political career as a socialist.

    I also know that Nazi was an acronym for the National Socialist German Worker’s Party.

  • sacredh

    hippooath, I’m much more liberal than most and sympathetic toward the progressive point of view, but I think the Tea Party and it’s goals have several similarities with our own progressive faction. You stray too far to the right or to the left and you lose the moderates and independents. The bases are going to follow the party regardless and are equally convinced that right or left is the way to go. I don’t believe that at all. I feel that it’s the middle that determines the elections. Determining where the middle is actually at seems to be beyond the ability of either party.

  • koabd

    Seriously, 2012 is shaping up to be 1968, minus Hubert Humphrey. It’ll be Obama (Nixon) vs. [insert prospective loon] (George Wallace).
    .
    Nixon? Really? Wow. I guess it was only a matter of time before it devolved to this.

  • hippooath

    “I do know that “progressive” is the term used by liberals who refuse to admit that they are liberals.
    I do know that Benito Mussolini began his political career as a socialist.
    I also know that Nazi was an acronym for the National Socialist German Worker’s Party.”
    .
    What is a liberal? You obviously don’t know. Is it a socialist, commie. What?
    .
    You tell me why Benito started as a ‘socialist’ on the left hand scale and then turned into a fascist on the right hand scale. Can you tell me why the Nazi party named it so? Can you?
    .
    I can.
    .
    It’s called educating yourself in something. What you ‘think’ about fascism and liberalism is a opinion shared by the few ignorant people who believe the word of a columnist writing a hit piece on the mean liberals and Glenn Beck. The other people who KNOW what fascism and liberalism mean and where they fit get their information from actual historical data, usually from historians that spends decades researching it.
    .
    So let me summarize. Glenn Beck spins a tall tale of insanity over a hit piece by a columnist that spent a summer writing a book. People who know get their information from well documented history.
    .
    Tough choice. Your shallow ditch or the body of work as we know it.

  • hippooath

    I’m sure you’re right. Finding the middle is like looking for the golden portal in a large bush.
    .
    The difference is that Democrats never really listened to the progressive part of the party while the GOP seems to make it their mission to go where crazy is.
    .
    And as you wrote – its not that good for the party in the long run

  • koabd

    I also know that Nazi was an acronym for the National Socialist German Worker’s Party.
    .
    You do realize Hitler’s form of government is referred to as National socialism, right (you actually have to bold both words, chief)? And that this form of government is viewed separately from democratic socialist governments (like those found in Europe currently), right? And that among the groups the National Socialists in Germany rounded up were the communists, right? You can’t be this dense, can you? Or is it simply that your intellectual dishonesty knows no bounds? By your logic, North Korea is a bastion of free market democracy because its actual name is The People’s Democratic Republic of Korea.

  • ohiolibb

    Thanks, thirdcell

  • fhmadvocat

    It is nice to know some Tea Partyers in Congress actually believe in limited government. I just wonder about the beliefs of those who claim to carry the Tea Party mantra, who actually voted to extend the Patriot Act.

  • sacredh

    The evangelicals drove the republican party for over a decade and played a large part in determining the candidates. The Tea Party looks to be doing the same. I have my doubts that they’re going to have the staying power of the evangelicals though.

  • paulejb

    hippooath@1.11,
    .
    Even a casual reading of history reveals that liberals, socialists and communists all subscribe to the belief that they alone possess the ability to make decisions for the rest of us.
    .
    Each group has it’s own methods of enforcing their beliefs, but the result is usually the same. Less freedom, more government control.

  • lcky9

    T.E.A. parties are LOCAL movements.. they DON’T need to be tamed.. Here’s how it works each community/state gets togeather we invite those that either are going to be on the ballot or those that wish to be.. we let them speak.. THAN.. WE ask questions.. WE want answered.. than we make a decision.. Now sometimes the send around who a particular group wants you to back but I don’t bother with what THEY say.. I make my choices from the ISSUES.. the track record IF these people have been in office before.. and their answers..I have to say this is a MUCH better process than the Democrats have had the entire 40 years I was a Democrat.. where the serfs were not even invited to a town hall.. not even included in a meet and greet.. UNLESS you GAVE BIG BUCKS..Even the fund raisers for the T.E.A. PARTY are more relaxed not ALL ELITIST.. smaller groups no dinner and open bar.. music.. and talking to those running.. I know all those on the left THINK that people like PALIN are talking for the entire T.E.A. party but they don’t.. Which is why taming the T.E.A. party to follow like SHEEP is NOT going to work..

  • konastephen

    Dear Mr. Altman,

    Does constantly referring to “the Tea Party” as some sort of cohesive entity to dissect and denigrate at whim make it seem as though it isn’t just everybody all around you in America? Does it make it seem more as though you, the self-styled intellectual elite of the fourth estate with your euro-progressivist notions and your supercilious condescension, are really America and the “Tea Party” is some sinister usurper in your midst?

    Because if so, it confirms to me that you are delusional and in need of a reality check.

    Sincerely,
    The Tea Party

  • konastephen

    When you say that “[National socialism] is viewed separately from democratic socialist governments (like those found in Europe currently)”, to whom are you referring as the viewer? Who is it that is viewing national socialism as separate from democratic socialism as currently found in Europe? And while we’re on the topic of intellectual dishonesty and oxymorons like “democratic socialism” where exactly in Europe were you thinking that this democratic socialism is found? (You do know that Europe is still comprised of many different nations and peoples, right?)

    One of the 20th century’s foremost mathematicians, a man who was a member of the Soviet Union’s highest body of scientific minds, wrote an exhaustive treatise on the subject of socialism. No one who holds forth as an expert or apologist for “democratic” socialism today ought to do so without first having read this book. Google it under The Socialist Phenomenon by Igor Shafarevich. You’ll find that in the early going he discusses the legitimacy of differentiating between the many different monikers for the phenomenon of socialism. He notes that socialism struggles to coherently define itself and settles on a pragmatic definition along the lines of “if it looks like it, feels like it and smells like it…”

    In short, it is hardly intellectual dishonesty to emphasize that the “right” and “left” of a socialist’s universe refers to national socialism and international socialism. It is actually intellectually dishonest and historically inaccurate to attempt to draw lines between naziism and the Tea Party.

  • konastephen

    Your grasp of who is who in the political landscape of the GOP is incomplete and insubstantial at best. You probably ought to pontificate on your own piece of the pie instead. As in: Southern “Blue Dog” Democrats drove the Democratic Party for decades. Now it’s in the hands of extremist Northern Radicals. I doubt the Weathermen/Daley Machine/Black Panther coalition will have the same staying power as the Southern Democrats.

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