Ben Bernanke vs. the Tea Party

A big early test of the power dynamic within the new Republican Party will come this spring (or possibly in early June) when the U.S. runs out of borrowing authority and Congress will have to vote on whether to raise the federal debt limit. Some Tea Party-backed conservatives in Congress, many of whom ran have vowed to end Washington’s borrowing and reel in the debt, insist they will oppose raising the debt limit–even though economists say failure to do so could create chaos in the financial markets, and  even top GOP leaders are warning that Congress has little other choice.

I’m not aware of any Republicans who actually want to see the U.S. default on its debt. But it is common to hear conservatives–including the likely 2012 GOP presidential candidates like Tim Pawlenty–any debt limit increase should be leveraged into simultaneous major spending cuts. That argument got a big kick in the shins yesterday, however, in the form of public remarks by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke:

The Federal Reserve chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, warned Congressional Republicans on Thursday not to “play around with” a coming vote to raise the government’s legal borrowing limit or use it as a bargaining chip for spending cuts….

Though he called on Congress and Mr. Obama to confront “daunting fiscal challenges,” Mr. Bernanke said the debt ceiling should not be used as a negotiating tactic, warning that even the possibility of the United States not being able to pay its creditors could create panic in the debt markets.“I think this is very remote, but it’s not something you want to play around with — the United States would be forced into a position of defaulting on its debt,” Mr. Bernanke said. “And the implications of that for our financial system, for our fiscal policy, for our economy would be catastrophic.”

He added: “So I would very much urge Congress not to focus on the debt limit as being the bargaining chip in this discussion, but rather to address directly the spending and tax issues that we all have to deal with if we’re going to make progress on this fiscal situation.”

Let’s see what Republican leaders have to say in response.

P.S. Few people on Capitol Hill seem to think that the debt limit won’t be raised eventually. One Democratic aide told me this week he expects to see a “sane caucus,” with members of both parties, will grin and bear the brunt of the tough vote–much as they did after the House failed to pass the TARP bailout in late 2008, watched the stock market plunge nearly 1000 points, and then staged a successful do-over. Although, to be sure, many a member of both parties came to regret that vote….

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  • pintortwo

    Will anyone in “the new Republican Party” have the courage to say this?
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    “As many frustrated Americans… realize, we cannot stand against big government at home while supporting it abroad. We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined. ”
    - Ron Paul (link)
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    Doubtful (at least in numbers that will be significant), but I’m optimistic.

  • nflfoghorn

    I vote No.

  • newfreedomblog

    Ben Bernake’s solution to the problem – “Add 600 Billion More To The Debt”.
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    Yea, that’s really working. We already did that a couple times now within the past 2 years.
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    Solution number two from the wise sage of financial wizards…….QEIII

  • liberalmeltdown

    Funny that’s what you take away from the Bernanke’s comments.
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    He spent most of the time talking about how higher gas prices are like a tax and that raising taxes in a downturn is not a good idea. Liberals just can’t hear that.
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    He also talked about the rising debt and how it won’t be financed by other countries, such as China, if it continues in it’s current unsustainable rate.
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    He takes credit for the stock market’s rise, but don’t blame the Fed for inflation in food and commodities. Yeah sure.
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    He says we need more jobs. No kidding. No suggestions as to how to bring them back from China though.
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    His message: trust me.

  • newfreedomblog

    Hey Mr Crowley, have you read up on monetizing the debt yet? Perhaps that would make for an interesting read here in the swamp, or do you just take your marching orders and print the garbage fed to you?

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    No.
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    Say what you will about the tenets of libertarianism, at least it’s an ethos. Republicans believe in nothing.
    -
    Incidentally, ending an occupation or two, and returning taxes to where they were in the 1990s, gets us most of the way to a balanced budget. See: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/13/weekinreview/deficits-graphic.html?choices=809205qv

  • http://shortplaysaboutrealpeople.wordpress.com Michael Maiello

    Have to take some issue with your portrayal of recent history. The TARP that failed the first vote was not the same as the TARP eventually passed. The first TARP was just a few pages long and basically empowered Paulson to do whatever he thought was best. Congress did actually win major and important details and concessions that were worth whatever temporary market turmoil that resulted.

  • m0mentom0ri

    “take your marching orders and print the garbage fed to you”, says Glenn Beck’s parrot.

  • http://beaverpig.wordpress.com beaverpig

    In case people haven’t figured this out yet, the Fed and the Treasury Department (and the FDIC too– check out Chase’s balance sheet before and after the WAMU theft by the FDIC on behalf of Chase) run as if they are joint ventures run by the joint venture between JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs. Bernanke and Geithner, and the President they bought — Mr. Obama — are all taking marching orders from them. They like government debt. They send their brilliant advisors to Washington and dictate to Bernanke and Geithner what to say and do for the benefit of Chase and Goldman (and, on occasion, their buddies at Citi, too). They like debt for lots of reasons, including the fees they generate advising the government and making products related to the debt, and, oh yes, the fact it keeps the government weak and beholden to them instead of “the people”.

  • kbanginmotown

    The GOP spent 2000-2008 driving the economy into the ditch. Why would they want to stop, now?

  • deconstructiva

    Too bad minor things like tossing out top brass who drove firms into ground didn’t get put in. I’ve read earlier that Bernanke’s dealing with commercial paper market during the Lehman, etc. collapse had odd timing with TARP. It’s interesting that CP market as a shadow banking system doesn’t get much attention in media, but I don’t know all the details there. One article mentioning this –
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/sep/20/tarp-bailout-banks-wall-street
    Certainly when Lehman bonds collapse led to Reserve Fund woes / spooking the money market funds, THAT got attention since it hit consumers directly.

  • iggydwonderllama

    Why do we even have a debt limit? If Congress is not even allowed to consider failing to raise it, why even have it? If even the notion that it might come into play causes devastation to the economy, why even have it? If it has never caused Congress to reign in spending (and who honestly thinks it has), why even have it?

    Because it helps Congress pretend to be fiscally responsible, that’s why.

    Either get rid of the debt limit, or start actually enforcing it. I’m fine with either one.

  • shepherdwong

    Haven’t the Republican, along with our Galtian overloards, kept complaining that our economy is suffering from market “uncertainty” when that uncertainty supposedly came from administration policy?
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    So are Republicans and our Galtian overloards not concerned with the massive uncertainties created by Republicans playing chicken with the debt ceiling, threatening to repeal the just enacted health care reform, obstructing long-term tax policy, etc., or were they just lying all along?

  • pintortwo

    They weren’t “lying” Shep, they were “campaigning”. All’s fair.. See Obama and the Dems re: Public Option, ending the war in Afghanistan, green jobs programs.

  • shepherdwong

    OK, so the difference is that Democrats campaign by lying about what they will accomplish and Republicans campaign by lying about what Democrats have accomplished. Sounds about right. Though, it could still also be characterized as unkept promises vs…lies.

  • afguy

    Shep, you’re falling behind…
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    It’s no longer lying… it’s now “not being a slave to abstract campaign principles”…
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    Didn’t you get the memo?

  • shepherdwong

    Shep, you’re falling behind…
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    As it happens, I like it here just fine.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    [Ben Bernanke vs. the Tea Party]

    Ladies and gits, there’s your village discourse in 6 words.

  • http://beaverpig.wordpress.com beaverpig

    Give me a beak — both parties have been asleep at the wheel for a long time. The GOP just kept driving the car over the cliff in the same direction that their buddies on the other side of the aisle, at the behest of the Fed and its puppet-masters on Broad Street, set it on under Robert Rubin. Robert Rubin and Hank Paulson are two heads of the same Goldman dragon… a very corrupt dragon. I’d love to see a president or Fed Chairman who has the guts to actually shut the door on Goldman, Chase and Citi and actually do things in the interest of the United States of America. Until that happens, both parties will take marching orders from them. It’s not only the GOP’s fault. It is not only the Democrats fault. It is the revolving door between Broad Street/Park Avenue and the Fed/Treasury apparatus they control. I think the political parties are too weak to challenge them.

  • liberalmeltdown

    Good comments beaver; but the two parties aren’t weak, just corrupt. Money makes the vorld go round, the vorld go round.

  • newfreedomblog

    Your comment almost sounds like someone with penis envy.

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