Jon Hunstman And The 2012 Theory of Moderation

We are in a new age, though no one knows yet just how long it will last or what it all means. Republicans and Democrats sat together during the State of the Union. Barack Obama and Mitch McConnell worked together on a major tax bill. Keith Olbermann is gone from MSNBC. Michele Bachmann has been cast into the outer rings of awkward third-party video responses. However fleeting, we are in an era of moderation.

Consider this: For three straight elections, 2006, 2008 and 2010, the edges took control of the political discourse. Moderation had failed the country. The centrist consensus had led us into a quagmire in Iraq. It had led us to stagnating wages, increasing health care costs, and a general sense of national decline, followed by sudden economic cataclysm in the collapse of Lehman Brothers. So the edges rose up. Democrats ran to the left and convinced independents to throw the bums out in 2006 and 2008. The victors offered change. And then the change arrived, and the independents wanted their money back. One painful war replaced another painful war. The unemployment rate skyrocketed. Lobbyists and special interests still dominated Washington. Insufferable senators bickered over health care charts. The economic malaise did not end. So Republicans ran to the right and convinced independents to throw the bums out in 2010.

And now both parties know they are mortal. And neither wants to be slayed again. They both strive to perform. The American people, meanwhile, seem to have tired by the ideological din of endless outrage that has become the national conversation. The crazy gunman in Tucson had no clear rhyme or reason, but he gave the nation an opportunity to check itself in the mirror and not like what it saw. Suddenly John McCain was praising Barack Obama, and Barack Obama was standing alongside Jan Brewer. Everyone seemed to realize just how silly they had all become. Olbermann’s indignant thesaurus had run out of words. And here is where the 2012 theory of moderation comes in. It says that the 2012 election will not be like the 2008 election. Like all national elections, it will be a contest for independent votes. And independents are tired of just throwing the bums out. They don’t want more outrage. They want someone to get the job done.

This is the theory of Jon Huntsman for president. Under the rules of 2006, 2008 and 2010, Huntsman doesn’t stand a chance. He has been working for Obama as ambassador to China. He’s been one of the bums–a traitor, implicated, comprimised, weak-kneed, white-bread, lacking in a stiff partisan spine. “I’m sure that him having worked so well with me will be a great asset in any Republican primary,” President Obama joked a couple weeks back. But what if 2012 isn’t like those other elections?

“Everybody is gaming out 2012 as if it will be 2010, and it’s not,” said one Republican laying the groundwork for a Huntsman bid, in an interview with CNN’s campaign ace Peter Hamby today. What if in 2012 moderation rules? What if competence is a more important message than ideological difference? What if having worked with Obama is an asset? What if reasonableness trumps outrage? What if people don’t just want to throw the bums out, because they tried that three times and it hasn’t really worked?

Under this scenario, one would still need to pass certain ideological tests to get out of the primary, which Huntsman probably can. Pro-life, pro-gun, rides motocross, and his gray highlights are even slicker looking than Mitt Romney’s. Then he would replace Obama not by blasting him as a socialist, but by simply pointing out his missteps and excesses, and denying him ownership of the political center. Obama, who is clearly reading the same polling, is now working hard to claim this space. He thinks it will get him another four years. But what if he gets there and finds someone else is already there, revving a motor bike?

Yes, this is all a crazy long shot talk, but John Weaver, Huntsman’s main political adviser, loves long shots who scramble the partisan algebra. (Huntsman plans to resign on April 30. If he wants to make the first Republican presidential debate, he has two days to prepare.) Members of the Obama Administration still dismiss the whole concept, because after all, they can’t exactly argue that Huntsman, the star ambassador, would make a bad president. “It’s hard to imagine a massive moderate reaction that will give birth to Huntsman,” one senior administration official told the Washington Post Monday. Damn right it’s hard. But other things have been hard to imagine too. Like a newcomer named Barack Hussein Obama toppling the Clinton dynasty to claim the White House.

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  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Good heavens Scherer!

    For three straight elections, 2006, 2008 and 2010, the edges took control of the political discourse. Moderation had failed the country. The centrist consensus had led us into a quagmire in Iraq. It had led us to stagnating wages, increasing health care costs, and a general sense of national decline, followed by sudden economic cataclysm in the collapse of Lehman Brothers. So the edges rose up. Democrats ran to the left and convinced independents to throw the bums out in 2006 and 2008. They offered change.

    It’s hard (but not impossible) to believe you can still manage to write something like this at this stage. The liberal edge never took control of anything during the last 3 cycles. They’ve been out of power, in government or your industry for decades. The centrist consensus is in complete dominance today, just as it was in 2006. Neither the dems nor Obama ran from the left. The president has never even identified himself as a liberal. He’s a new dem/centrist and damned proud of it. There is/has been no change and none is on the horizon, other than the rhetorical angle you guys are pushing.

    “And independents are tired of just throwing the bums out.”

    More nonsense. The bums of yesterday, today and tomorrow are one and the same. Bought and paid for by our beloved oligarchy, they’re rushing headlong into your cataclymic collapse.

    Then he would replace Obama not by blasting him as a socialist, but by simply pointing out his missteps and excesses, and denying him ownership of the political center. Obama, who is clearly reading the same polling, is now working hard to claim this space. He thinks it will get him another four years. But what if he gets there and finds someone else is already there…

    JFC man, working hard to claim the space. He is the locus. Maybe Huntsman will wind up in the same space–but Obama will be there waiting for him. Perhaps Obama could just bump Biden and pick him as his veep–Duopoly 2012!

  • paulejb

    “Jon Huntsman for president.”

    An intriguing idea especially in light of the China connection. It would appear that China will be on the public’s radar for the next two years since the Chinese are holding the mortgage. They are feeling frisky now and want to claim their place in the sun.

    I do doubt that the 2012 election will be about moderation. The problems we face have progressed too far for a moderate solution. The next election will not be about shades of gray. The nation will have to come to grips with the future and decide which fork in the road to take.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    What a load of crap.

    It only took a few thousand of us to destroy Gore and we can do it to Obama too. I listened to the Shah’s son tonight and he is more liberal than Obama.

  • paulejb

    Derek@3,

    Who is us? It could be anybody. It could have been the voters in Florida 2000 who inadvertently voted for Pat Buchanan in Palm Beach county. It could even have been the Florida 2000 Nader vote. You have to be more specific.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    As an unabashed and proud liberal I’ll give you three choices what I mean. Who do the centrist democrats always blame for Gore losing?

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    What he said. The Dems never ran to the left.
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    There are no moderates in the GOP, because the GOP has no policy beliefs. Whether it’s Keynesian stimulus, a health insurance mandate, a cap and trade system, the EITC, the New START treaty, TARP, or pretty much anything else (link), the GOP supports things, until a Democrat proposes them, at which point it opposes them as unconstitutional & tyrannical. Because the GOP is a group defined by its resentments, such as of liberals, a person who was appointed ambassador under Obama cannot go anywhere in the GOP primary.
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    Also, there are hardly any independents– roughly 10 percent (link). The ones who exist generally vote based on the economy. So all this theoretical independent-wooing is misplaced, and near impossible.

  • davisb

    This is some sweet sweet buttery nonsense. If being a member of the administration is any sort of asset than how would being the HEAD of the administration not be a bigger asset?

    And do you REALLY think John Hunstman will be able to win the race to the center (in the middle of a Republican primary, mind you) against a President with high like-ability and a 7 year head-start? You think Hunstman’s going to be there revving his motor bike? Barack Obama will have raced to the center and established his own eponymous motocross championship in that space long before John Hunstman even gets out of the DMV.

  • paulejb

    Derek@3.2,

    That “devil with the blue dress,” Bill Clinton

  • stuartzechman

    Thank you, JC.

  • acvmd

    I’m also an unabashed liberal… and I’d be thrilled if we could have real liberals, and not the wusses we have.

    But why be proud of having any part in George W. Bush becoming president? If liberals had managed to overthrow the two party system, get a true liberal in office… then, sure, be proud of taking Gore down.

    But don’t pretend that Gore and Bush are interchangable, or that our country would be the same now had Gore been sworn in instead of Bush. Just because democrats barely even hint at earning the name liberal doesn’t mean that republicans are the same – they’re just so far right, they think they’ve moved the center.

    I’m amazed that after Bush’s presidency there are still liberals who can chuckle at Gore’s loss.

  • along1

    can’t we please just remember to use occam’s razor once in a while?

    the guy is going to run for president, either next year or in 2016. so if it’s the latter, was he really going to spend this entire cycle *in China working for the opposition party*?

    no. even if his master plan is to win the White House in 2016, he’s going to come back here now, deploy his hundreds of millions in whatever way he sees fit, suck a lot of the oxygen up for himself, and start building his brand. If that means jumping in, sure, he’ll jump in. If he turns out to be a good candidate–I’m talking style here, not record–he’ll do fine in some states, poorly in others. He probably takes California, and could win dogfights in Texas and Florida.

    But with moderate views on the environment and civil unions, and two years serving at the pleasure of Barack Hussein Obama? You’re smoking the real good stuff if you think he has a chance in red Iowa, South Carolina, Appalachia or the Deep South.

    He won’t win, but I assure you he’ll leap-frog Mitt, Thune, and Pawlenty on the VP shortlist, and achieve exactly what he wants: to accrue political capital.

  • Cliff

    We are in a new age, though no one knows yet just how long it will last or what it all means.
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    This set my BS detector pinging pretty hard, and by the looks of the comments I’m not wrong.

  • allthingsinaname

    “The centrist consensus had led us into a quagmire in Iraq. It had led us to stagnating wages, increasing health care costs, and a general sense of national decline, followed by sudden economic cataclysm in the collapse of Lehman Brothers. So the edges rose up. Democrats ran to the left and convinced independents to throw the bums out in 2006 and 2008. The victors offered change. And then the change arrived, and the independents wanted their money back. One painful war replaced another painful war. The unemployment rate skyrocketed. Lobbyists and special interests still dominated Washington. Insufferable senators bickered over health care charts. The economic malaise did not end. So Republicans ran to the right and convinced independents to throw the bums out in 2010.”
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    Nice but all BS, When did the Change arrive? When did the unemployment rate Skyrocket and Why? Lobbyists have been part of DC forever and so has the village with it’s outright lies. Which insufferable Senators? Not Republicans? Seems to me that we had two wars now there is one.
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    If you are going to report at least get your facts straight. It is your kind of BS that hurts America.

  • paulejb

    acvmd@3.4,

    After observing Gore’s years out office when he made millions on on the global warming scam, I would be surprised if people weren’t dancing in the streets over keeping Gore out of the White House.

  • apr2563

    Lord, I hope all of the “maybe I’ll run” Republicans run for President. I love picturing the debate. 18 or more candidates debating who is most Christian, who hates taxes more, who is most patriotic, who has the most disdain for the poor, who hates the Muslims more, who doesn’t believe in evolution, who believes more in deregulation, who has less regard for unions and teachers, who wants HCR repealed the most, who disbelieves global warming the most, and who loves Ronald Reagan the most.
    It will be perfect for them. There will only be time for 30 second answers.

  • apr2563

    MS: You seem to enjoy the fact that Olbermann no longer has a show. Michael, he had one of the few liberal shows on the air. He had excellent researchers who brought facts to the viewer. He never claimed he would present false equivalencies. He corrected himself when his facts were wrong and apolgized when he went over the line. He never pretended to burn an political opponent, or hung anyone in effigy, or encouraged viewers to shoot anyone.
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    I guess you think that moderatation has prevailed. Does that moderation include Limbaugh, Beck, Savage, conservative talk radio, and Fox?

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    “I’m amazed that after Bush’s presidency there are still liberals who can chuckle at Gore’s loss.”

    There are not many of us but should the party move even further to the right it will be enough.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    “That “devil with the blue dress,” Bill Clinton”
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    No, it is the group that has no power, is excluded completely from the MSM, has all of it’s policy priorities ignored by the Democratic party and yet, is blamed for everything, especially by the even more ignorant right.
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    Any guesses?

  • paulejb

    Derek@3.7,

    Damn, you have me stumped. All I can think of is Code Pink or the cast at MSNBC.

  • paulejb

    allthingsinaname@7,

    Aren’t you a little bit off on your geography? Isn’t the quagmire a few hundred miles east of Iraq?

  • Paul-no not that one

    I enjoy a bit of pointless speculation as much as the next Swamplander -perhaps more-but really this is something.
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    My goodness! An adviser who not only asks for but is granted anonymity to drop the bombshell that 2012 will be different from 2010.
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    Because of that we can game out a scenario wherein a largely unknown former governor from a small state who took a position in an opposing administration could win the nomination of a party that is taking its marching orders from the Tea Party.
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    Great stuff.
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    I’m thinking Scherer’s history with Weaver from the McCain camp has more to do with the post than a belief that this has more than a 1% of happening.
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    A favor for an old friend. Sort of admirable, in a way.
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    And that’s just for the republican nomination. If the country wants a centrist President they already have one. And he’s polling over 50%.

  • newfreedomblog

    If you all are hell bent on creating these labels, then you must also define what you mean by a “real liberal”. My thought of what a “real liberal” means is I am sure far different as yours.
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    Stuart defines them solely as “movement liberals”, but what does a movement liberal mean? What is their stand on the issues which we typically define as liberal positions?
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    Up until about 1900 or so, this was a definition of “liberalism”;
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    “Classical liberalism stressed not only human rationality but the importance of individual property rights, natural rights, the need for constitutional limitations on government, and, especially, freedom of the individual from any kind of external restraint.”

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    Today this would be defined as a Tea Party participant.
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    After 1900, the following has been used to describe “liberalism”;
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    “By 1900, L. T. Hobhouse and T. H. Green began to look to the state to prevent oppression and to advance the welfare of all (income redistribution) individuals. Liberal thought was soon stating that the government should be responsible for providing the minimum conditions (“healthcare is a right”) necessary for decent individual existence. In the early 20th cent. in Great Britain and France and later in the United States, the welfare state came into existence, and social reform became an accepted governmental role. (which conservatives and those of us who believe in individual responsibility believe government should not provide this)
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    In the United States minimum wage laws, progressive taxation, and social security programs were all instituted, many initially by the New Deal, and today remain an integral part of modern democratic government (Neo-Socialism). While such programs are also advocated by socialism, liberalism does not support the socialist goal of complete equality imposed by state control (but they do indeed go right up to the edge of full blown socialism), and because it is still dedicated to the primacy of the individual (depending on the issue or stand they take), liberalism also strongly opposes communism. Current liberal goals in the United States include integration of the races, sexual equality, and the eradication of poverty (social justice versus equal justice).

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    http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Political+liberal
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    Is this movement liberalism? If so, Barack Obama fits this description to a T.

  • newfreedomblog

    2.1 should have been posted here.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Who is the group that was branded “just as evil as George Bush” by centrist and right-wing Democrats?

  • paulejb

    Derek@3.9,

    Geez, Derek. Give me a hint. I am running out of left wing fringe groups. If it’s not Ralph Nader, Code Pink or the staff at MSNBC who else is there to take the blame?

  • paulejb

    Derek@3.9,

    Could it be that female advisor of Al Gore’s who convinced him to wear pastels? I believe it was Naomi Wolf.

  • Matt

    “Moderation” is all well and good, but if Huntsman is really going to go from high-ranking member of the Obama administration to Republican presidential candidate, that means he’s going to face the primaries. I can only guess as to how the Tea Party will react to Obama’s former ambassador to China…
    http://www.sunstateactivist.org

  • newfreedomblog

    Now to rip apart Huntsman. Son of a billionaire tycoon in plastics, Huntsman left high school to form a rock and roll band. He later graduated from the University of Pennsylvania.
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    A Mormon, he is in favor of gay marriage and cap n’ tax. Both would be very difficult to placate the right. (See Joe Manchin, WVA).
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    Furthermore, Huntsman is one of the only elected officials whom I have heard openly suggesting that we pattern the GOP recovery after the British Conservative Party and it’s leader, David Cameron.

    .
    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/04/06/jon-huntsman-for-president/
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    Not a good start since it looks like the austerity programs Britain and Cameron have put into place are not working at all.
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    Then the Romney factor. Is Huntsman going to be known as “the other Mormon guy”?
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    America I do not believe will vote for a moderate Romney, why would they then select another moderate known as “the other Mormon guy”?

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:
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    …other things have been hard to imagine too. Like a newcomer named Barack Hussein Obama toppling the Clinton dynasty to claim the White House.
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    Hard to imagine?
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    For whom (besides Mark Penn)?
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    Whose ideology led them to that obvious disconnect with reality?
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    What’s that ideology called?

  • artraveler

    ” For three straight elections, 2006, 2008 and 2010, the edges took control of the political discourse. Moderation had failed the country.”

    No, if you look at the results, extremism failed to do anything but cause moderates and a lot of liberals to write off Washington is just a tool of the corporate party that owns both the Republicans and Democrats.

    Interesting that corporations failed to heed the advice of Henry Ford who made sure his workers were paid enough to buy his product. Today’s search for larger bonuses took the US worker out of the consideration and now when you need them, they are too busy trying to buy food and essentials to give a damn about whether American corporations make a profit or not.

    Yah!, Americans are buying again but unemployment didn’t go down?. You are looking at the wrong country. It went up where all the American jobs went and is helping the Chinese economy.

    Screw all of them. Put an import duty on Chinese goods and those from any other country that manipulates their currency to hurt American jobs. Take teh duty and put it against teh national debt. What could be more pro-American.

    Quit worrying about being party members and start being Americans again. The Republicans did it in the House for 2 hours when they read the redacted version of the Constitution and then went back to being Republicans-too hell with the country-party first!

  • nflfoghorn

    New age?
    NEW AGE??
    Try same old same old.

  • newfreedomblog

    How did you podcast go stuart? Did you all get it figured out what a movement liberal really means?

  • http://shortplaysaboutrealpeople.wordpress.com Michael Maiello

    Everybody bookmark this post. It’s going to look mighty silly in 2012.

  • sacredh

    “What if in 2012 moderation rules?”
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    Rules what? Does anybody actually think the Tea Party is going to move toward the center? Huntsman doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell. I have several Tea Party members as friends and they see themselves as moderates. They all think actual moderates are left wingers. Obama is a centrist and a moderate and they think he’s a socialist. I like playing the “what if” games too, but Huntsman getting the nomination (or even surviving the early primarys) is more of a “I know it’s not going to happen, but just for the sake of argument” scenario.

    A good percentage of the country as a whole may want moderation and compromise but the Tea Party is driving the republican party now and they aren’t looking at compromise as a good thing by any stretch of the imagination. Their idea of compromise is to have have everybody else go along with them. The only thing a Hunstman run is going to accomplish is to line the pockets of the media with ad dollars.

  • sacredh

    I agree. The only thing more surprising would be a Palin/Bachman ticket.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    Scherer, how well do you know John Weaver? The way you write this piece I imagine you received a call one afternoon from this old buddy of yours and he said, “Why don’t you write a piece…” And you saw a horse race you could write about reliably for the next 2 years; one that doesn’t yet exist, but that you could create; and you sat down at your computer and drummed away a fluffy piece that almost looks like an argument for instead of an analyzation of where this bid was coming from, who was supporting it, and what this man actually stands for.

    Moderate? What the fillibuster does that even mean?

    If you can’t tell me what this man stands for and why anyone would bother to vote for him other than “he’s new and not crazy” I’m going to lose a bit more than a bit of respect for you.

  • http://twitter.com/michaelscherer Michael Scherer

    Sacred, Under this scenario, the tea party would keep shouting but be sidelined. (We already saw this with the State of the Union. The GOP leadership greeted the Bachmann response with distain, in contrast to the 2010 cycle when the GOP leadership focused on harnessing the Tea Party energy (in part because it had no choice).) The Glenn Becks and Limbaughs would keep throwing rhetorical bombs into the news cycle but they would seem tired and marginal, not central as they have been for much of the last two years. It’s just a theory. And a long shot one. Michael Maiello may be right.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    The Tea Party is funded and organized by groups like the Koch Brothers. If they pull their support for someone who looks good for business the Tea Party will throw a final Kegger, but it won’t rule the day and over time it likely will fall apart.

    You said it, they think they are moderates, and they believe moderation is whatever their buddies say it is.

    Just wait for the new line that tells them we can fix this thing if only we are willing to get behind the businesses that make this country great. Its the economy stupid. Lets have some common sense here and make sure jobs can be created.

    Meanwhile, watch me do a back flip off my motorcycle and knock down more pins than Barack Obama; then we can go get a beer together, in a real bar.

  • sacredh

    Michael, thank you for the response. I think that the moderation between the two parties after the Arizona shooting is going to be fleeting at best. I like the idea of the Tea Party being sidelined but I seriously doubt if they are going to either accept being sidelined or even recognize that they aren’t major players. I almost expect that the Tea Party will be fighting the republican establishment even more than they will be fighting the democrats.

  • afguy

    @sacredh: I just got a “thrill” up my leg… or, maybe, that was a chill down my spine.
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    Hard to tell at my age…

  • chicagoindependant

    Agreed. Anyone who actually listened to what Obama was saying during the election could easily tell he was running as a centrist. And he’s governed pretty much how he promised he would.

  • bill0711

    Agree that Huntsman could be formidable candidate, but can’t help thinking that this passage is very very glib:

    ‘Under this scenario, one would still need to pass certain ideological tests to get out of the primary, which Huntsman probably can. Pro-life, pro-gun, rides motocross, and his gray highlights are even slicker looking than Mitt Romney’s.’

    Ummm, no. Any number of Democratic pols, sans motorcross, might fit this description. Harry Reid is also pro life and pro gun, but he is unlikely to be the 2012 GOP nominee. Huntsman’s moderate views e.g. on civil unions will make him the enemy of social conservatives, and he is unlikely to become the darling of fiscal conservaives. What is his GOP primary base? The moderate middle?

    You can make an argument that some GOP contests will be less ideologically driven than in 2008, as without a Dem primary more independent voters will choose to participate in GOP primary (in those states that allow it), but that is still a stretch too far. He is much more likely to become a VP selection, balancing the hard edges of a Palin, Gingrich or Barbour, IMHO.

    And he is MItt Romney’s worst nightmare.

  • nmp1

    So let me understand this. After more than a year of the media telling us that the Tea Party ruled the Republican Party, no the country, no the world and that Sarah Palin would likely be the only suitable nominee for a Party that rebukes moderation, we are now to believe the new media meme that a moderate Republican who served under President Obama aka socialist Hitler has a chance of getting Tea Party approval and the Republican nomination? Do you media guys all gather at night and come up with the most outlandish BS to serve the public and laugh to yourselves at how easily we eat it up?

  • newfreedomblog

    In case you clueless ones need a refresher course. The Tea Party will challenge anyone….repeat…ANYONE who will not be fiscally responsible, does not want limited government, and does not promote the free market principles this country was founded upon. Period.

  • nmp1

    I see Michael’s reply to your comment. Send him Gallup’s poll published yesterday on Americans opinion of what the Tea Party’s influence should be. 70% of all Americans and 90% of Republicans want the Tea Party listened to. I bet the Republican establishment is paying far more attention to that poll than this new ridiculous media meme on John Huntsman. Wasn’t it just a month ago that the same media was still pushing Sarah Palin as the Republican standard bearer and the candidate to beat–before her Tucson meltdown? The media is playing us for fools. I for one am not plahying along. Democrats should not follow the rabbit down the hole. John Huntsman will NOT be the nominee, and we shouldn’t allow ourselves to be distracted by this nonsense as the media wants us to be.

  • sacredh

    nmp1, I think 70% the American public may want the Tea Party to be listened to, but not necessarily all or even most of what they have to say. They speak in generalities that sound good, but actually following through with their ideas may prove to be more than most of us can handle. At this early stage in the race, I think it’s reasonable to throw out possible candidate’s names because we have to go no further back than the last election to see that it is possible (maybe even likely) for a candidate to emerge that might seem to be coming out of left field. An Obama/McCain race seemed very unlikely at a comparable stage the last time around.
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    I also feel that Huntsman isn’t going to be the republican nominee, but before the last primaries started, I didn’t think that Obama had a chance either. We just never know who is going to emerge. Circumstances, cash and luck are all going to be factors. But because this is a political blog, I don’t see any harm in throwing out possible scenarios. Of course if Huntsman does emerge as a viable candidate, MS is going to look like he was ahead of the curve.
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    I’m also not ruling out a Palin run despite her meltdown after the Arizona shootings. She’s still very popular with her base and even if she doesn’t run, she can be influential in the process. Only political junkies are paying any attention at all to who is or who may be running this early. I think MS is only providing us with a little food for thought.

  • apr2563

    nmp1: They are always looking for the narrative and the conflict. Can’t find it. Make it up.

  • dollared

    Jesus Christ, is Michael applying for Krauthammer’s job? How many facts can you make up in pursuit of a convenient narrative? WHEN did unemployment skyrocket? Who was the president?

    What sort of change happened under Barack Obama?

    One word, Michael: unprofessional. How on earth did you ever get a job with Mother Jones?

  • lcky9

    Here’s my exact thoughts I PERSONALLY would not vote for OR support this Hunstman.. he is NOT someone to run this country any more then I felt McCain OR Obama are any good for this country..Pretty sure no one else does either..

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