Is the Arab World Ready for Democracy?

There is often a naïve reaction in America to political uprisings abroad. The United States is a free place and has a long, albeit imperfect, history of granting asylum to political dissidents. This leads some observers, like George W. Bush’s former speechwriter Michael Gerson, to assume that freedom-seeking political dissidents abroad are looking to Washington as they face down tanks and truncheons in their streets. These dewy-eyed observers further assume that with sufficient encouragement from Washington, those dissidents are capable of creating peaceful democracies in their countries, if only their tyrannical dictators can be removed.

If there was a time when an American president’s pronouncements could control the complex political upwellings of distant countries, that day has long since passed. More important, even if the brave demonstrators in Tunisia or Egypt or elsewhere do succeed in permanently overthrowing their dictators, their prospects for lasting freedom have nothing to do with rhetorical support from Washington, but depend rather on whether those countries have the broader political and economic infrastructure necessary to sustain democracy. If our experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan have taught us anything it is that the removal of tyranny alone is insufficient to create stable democracy.

Sure there are things Washington can do to prepare for whatever happens in Egypt and across the Arab world, and to discourage violence, and the Obama administration should do them. But when it comes to long-term political change in the region, the real question rising from the so-called Arab street is not what America can do to magically ensure it comes out well for us. It’s is the Arab world ready for democracy?

There are a lot of the theories about why Arab countries have lagged other parts of the world in economic and political development. Some blame the legacy of colonialism, others the so-called “resource curse”, others blame Islam itself. In an interesting new book called The Long Divergence, Timur Kuran of Duke argues that Islam’s economic restrictions, rather than its cultural conservatism or isolationism, stunted development in countries where it was the dominant religion. Marriage and inheritance laws, he argues, blocked the pooling of capital that made possible the Renaissance, exploration and the industrial revolution in Europe, developments that ultimately helped pave the way for stable democracy throughout the West.

Much has changed since the end of colonialism in the Arab world. In some countries, the resource curse has been lifted: Bahrain, for example, has increased experimentation with democracy as its oil wealth declined. Whatever you think of Al Jazeera, it represents a breaking of government control over the exchange of information, at least in countries other than Qatar, where it is based. And some have argued that civil society has made steady progress in some countries, including Egypt and Tunisia. But it is not easy to be optimistic. Said Freedom House in December 2001, “The gap in freedom has only widened over the last twenty years. While every other region of the world has registered significant gains for democracy and freedom, the countries of the Islamic world have experienced a significant increase in repression.”

Kuran concludes his book on a pessimistic note. “If the region’s autocratic regimes were magically to fall, the development of strong private sectors and civil societies could take decades,” he writes. “With few exceptions, their civil societies are too poorly organized, and too beaten down, to provide the political checks and balances essential to sustained democratic rule.” Kuran probably didn’t expect his conclusions to be tested so soon and we can all hope that he’s wrong. But from Eastern Europe and sub-Saharan Africa to Latin America and Southeast Asia, recent history makes it clear that democracy’s future in the Arab world depends on Arabs, not Americans.

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  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    It seems to me that it’s a massive oversight to write this post without mentioning that the US has shoveled about $50 billion to the hated autocrat that Egyptians are rebelling against.
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    How many autocrats have we supported in the Middle East & Central Asia? The Shah, Saddam, the Saudis, Kuwait, Mubarek, Yemen, et al. How many Iraqis have died because of the US invasion– 100,000, 1,000,000? Maybe Arabs don’t like the US not because they hate democracy and rationality, but because the US is awful to Arabs. Maybe, were it not for US interference, the Iranian democracy we overthrew would have been a model for the region.
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    If there was a time when an American president’s pronouncements could control the complex political upwellings of distant countries, that day has long since passed.
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    Perhaps I am misreading you. But I read that as a snarky comment, and as a facile cheap shot, a grave disservice to Bush Sr. Bush said in his Kiev speech, “Americans will not support those who seek independence in order to replace a far-off tyranny with a local depotism. They will not aid those who promote a suicidal nationalism based upon ethnic hatred. We will support those who want to build democracy. By democracy, we mean a system of government in which people may vie openly for the hearts — and yes, the votes — of the public.” How was he morally wrong? How was he strategically wrong? If only we’d kept his thoughts in mind when we backed Saakashvili’s Georgia to the hilt in 2008.
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    Whatever you think of Al Jazeera, it represents a breaking of government control over the exchange of information, at least in countries other than Qatar, where it is based.
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    Al Jazeera English is a better news source than any American TV news show or network, with the possible exception of Stewart & Colbert. Here’s a terrific documentary about North Korean defectors to the South: http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/101east/2011/01/2011113105526859511.html . And have you seen Bill Keller’s latest column on Wikileaks? It’s enough to make a person think that the New York Times represents an independent source of information, at least in countries other than the United States where it is based.
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    Yes, most Arabs have a very different view of the world than we do. But it’s not because they’re a bunch of primitives. It’s because we’ve done everything to make sure that they believe that our support for democracy is a farce. We’ve been making sure that they don’t have strong private sectors and civil societies. Popular Egyptian opposition figure Mohammad ElBaradei has been right about everything for the past ten years, so of course he’s been at loggerheads with the United States.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    First off, what Elvis said.

    Helena Cobban says that if power is wrested from the Mubarak regime and the ensuing government is less favorable to the US-Israeli line, the current aid we offer Egypt ($1.55 billion annually) would be in jeopardy. But, she adds: “Big deal. The vast majority of that aid never benefitted real Egyptians. Instead, it went to prop up the very same security forces whose main purpose has been to oppress them.”

    Later she continues:

    I think this also needs underlining: the degree to which today, in 2011, the United States is incapable of offering any kind of an attractive “model” to the peoples of the Arab world. For a long time, prior to 1970, the U.S. did offer such a model. It presented itself as– and was widely seen in the region as– anti-colonialist, a supporter of national liberation movements, generous, good at solving the problems of socio-economic development, the author of good ideas on tricky issues of political accountability and good governance, an upholder of human rights, etc.

    No longer.

    http://justworldnews.org/archives/004132.html

    But thanks for mentioning the Kuran text. Sounds intriguing. A pretty interesting <a href="review by Ziauddin Sardar in the Independent:

    This is a fresh and thought-provoking argument. But it is based on the assumption that Western financial institutions, and self-serving corporations, are the best possible model for development. Given the havoc that these institutions have caused in recent times, and the fact that injustice and obscene wealth is integral to their make-up, I think it is an assumption too far.

    One also needs to consider why Islam insists on the egalitarian distribution of wealth and historically suppressed the emergence of monopoly capital. Perhaps it has something to do with a socially conscience vision of society that emphasises genuine equity and justice? Kuran’s thesis is contentious; but it does provide us with an incentive to reformulate Islamic law. It is an excellent starting-point for a debate long overdue.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    To be clear, a brutal dictatorship favorable to US/Israeli interests in the region has gotten planeloads of US$ for 30 odd years. The regime’s longevity has a great deal to do with such aid.
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    Whatever government results from these protests, democracy or otherwise, is going to require an incredible amount of developmental aid. Much like Europe after WWII (Marshall Plan) or Japan.

    So, it’s not that I disagree with this entirely:

    “More important, even if the brave demonstrators in Tunisia or Egypt or elsewhere do succeed in permanently overthrowing their dictators, their prospects for lasting freedom have nothing to do with rhetorical support from Washington, but depend rather on whether those countries have the broader political and economic infrastructure necessary to sustain democracy.”

    But it is hardly the whole picture. If democracy fails to take root in Egypt, it does not exclusively reflect the people’s will or cultural failings–it will mean, in large measure, that it was insufficiently nurtured by the larger world community.

  • gysgt213

    “Sure there are things Washington can do to prepare for whatever happens in Egypt and across the Arab world, and to discourage violence, and the Obama administration should do them.”
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    To me this type of mindset is what gets this country in trouble in the first place. What we do can always make things worse and not better.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    No discussion of whether some group or another is ‘ready for democracy’ is complete without the observation that self-determination is no less a fundamental right than property ownership or freedom of speech and worship. The USA has fortunately found a way to channel the impulse in a manner that for the most part avoids violence. Lucky us.

    But the idea that Democracy can somehow be imposed from outside by selective violence is a completely untenable contradiction. That doesn’t stop us from ‘benevolently’ trying it every oportunity we get.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek
  • gysgt213

    No dictator because he’s our friend. Just like the governments of Tunisia and Yemen.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    The only time the US cares about democracy is when the interests of a large number multinational corporations are at stake. The propagandists have been tying freedom and democracy, to the interests of corporations, for decades. Actual democracies have been taken out, to protect the interests of a major corporation.

  • http://www.124monkeys.com Sean DeCoursey forgot his password

    I originally wrote this on my website on Oct. 9, 2009. No link because I shut the site down about seven months ago. Incredibly depressing how relevant to the current Egypt situation this is.
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    Afghanistan has been back in the news lately, along with a bunch of discussion of the supposed “return of MacArthurism” – check McChrystal’s speech, not the one Q&A segment, and the whole thing is pretty much pro current policy -but the one thing I haven’t heard anyone talking about is how we’re just setting ourselves up to make the exact same kinds of mistakes we’ve made before.
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    I’m not talking about how we’re repeating mistakes we’ve made in the past in Afghanistan, or about repeating mistakes other countries have made in Afghanistan. I’m talking about repeating the biggest mistakes of the last fifty years of U.S. foreign policy. I mean honestly, how many different times, and in how many different places, have we seen a variation on the Hamid Karzai show?
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    The basic story is pretty much the same: U.S or other western power sets up a strongman in a troubled part of the world and tells him to look out for our interests. Said strongman is generally a corrupt, incompetent, self-serving dirtbag who either ignores, exploits, or oppresses/kills/tortures his countrymen. Locals don’t like this guy and start supporting militia’s and insurgencies. Worrying that our strongman/lapdog might be in danger, the U.S./western power that set him up starts sending “military advisers” to help him maintain authority. If that doesn’t work we slowly escalate until we send in actual troops.
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    At this point, with violence fully established a normative political feature of the country/region, western media begins demonizing the irregular forces fighting against the corrupt/incompetent central government. And by “demonizing”, I mean highlighting atrocities and terrorist attacks or anything else being done by those guys that isn’t widely approved of. Meanwhile, there is talk of giving the strongman time and or breathing space to clean up his country’s government and deliver services to the people. And this is the point where I generally begin throwing stuff at the TV.
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    I mean, pressure Karzai to clean up Afghanistan’s government? Who do you think personally built the whole corrupt apparatus in the first place. Here’s a clue: Afghanistan’s government is working EXACTLY like its supposed to, namely, to enrich Karzai and his family and cronies and perpetuate their own hold on power and wealth. That’s pretty much ALL the government is supposed to do. If the U.S. and others make a big deal about it for a long time, eventually, Karzai will offer up some sacrificial lambs and give some speeches about reform, knowing that the U.S. and the west will get distracted by a sex scandel or the teenage belly button ring epidemic or some other nonsense and leave him alone to continue looting his country in peace.
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    As much as I really, really want to see America not screw this up, I just can’t shake the feeling we won’t stick by a failed, atrocious leader for way, way too long and ultimately get another thirty years of hate from random country X because everyone there remembers how “the Americans kept that awful mean dictator in power for years!”. For examples of this see Iran and large portions of South and Central America. For an example of what happens when this situation goes really south, see the bastion of freedom and democracy known as South Vietnam.
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    Interestingly, Vietnam and the U.S. actually have pretty decent relations now, while many other countries where we’ve had these kinds of fights and won still hate us passionately. But losing a war in the hopes of things being better forty years later seems like a losing proposition. Maybe this time we can learn from history and do something different. Like demand that Karzai step down after running fradulent sham elections instead of working even harder to prop him up. The dude will never stop sucking or being corrupt. It’s just who he is.

  • Ivy_B

    Excellent comments. I agree with and learned from them. Thanks.

    In particular, I hope we are careful and don’t rush into this volital situation. The other countries are on the edge as well. Are we supposed to rush in and make them all democractic? That has worked out so well for us in other places — Iraq, Afghanistan…

  • afguy

    And don’t forget our dear “friend” the Shah. We overthrew a democratically-elected leader in Iran because we didn’t like his views on private property in his country.
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    The symbol of our foreign policy in that part of the world should not be a dove or a ballot box, but a foot with a number of bullet holes in it.

  • afguy

    Is the Arab World Ready for Democracy?
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    Are WE ready to actually let them have one whose outcomes MAY not be a mirror image of OUR wishes? Be careful what you wish for…

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    They never define exactly what the “national interest” is do they? That is because, in essence, the national interest is synonymous with the interests of multinationals. Foreign policy is mainly driven by the prospect of nationalization. Freedom and democracy are the weapon of propagandists and public relations people, not principles anyone really believes in.

  • hippooath

    As I’ve said many times in the run up to the Iraq conflict; the only time things change is if the people themselves fight for it. With very few exceptions, Japan being one of them, most countries change to democracies when people fight for it.

    We can’t change a country by the end of a gun. We can’t. Especially when we try to create puppet regims that are friendly to us. A true democratic movement have to start from the very bottom and work itself up.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Incidentally, it’s not at all clear to me that the Arab world is somehow more resistant to democracy than elsewhere. Here’s Josef Joffe on that point: http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/81658/tunisia-revolution-riot-economy-democracy

    The Tunisian revolt fits [the model Samuel Huntington advanced in The Third Wave: Democratization in the Late Twentieth Century] to a T. Looking at the third wave of democratization between 1974 and 1989, he found that rising wealth spells falling tyrants. How much money did it take? A per-capita income between $1,000 and $3,000, which would now be adjusted for inflation. Of the non-democracies which moved into that range in the 1970s and 1980s, three-quarters got rid of their overlords. To illustrate the point, Huntington recalls how the Spanish finance minister predicted in 1960 that his country would tumble into the democratic column once it had reached $2,000. Huntington’s terse comment: “It did”—in 1975.

    That was then, but what about Tunisia now? The country has a per-capita income of $4,300, which would have been $1,000 in 1975. To make the analogy even more uncanny, let’s jiggle the numbers a bit and use purchasing-power parity. In that case Tunisia clocks in at $9,000—that is, at $2,200 in 1975 dollars. Just like Spain when it went democratic a generation ago.

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    So, Tunisia is moving toward democracy at the exact same time, development-wise, that Western European countries did a generation ago. Maybe Arabs are just as ready for democracy as Spaniards, Portuguese, and Italians. Or maybe theorists 100 years ago were right, and Catholic & Islamic countries are incapable of democratic self-governance.
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    Here’s an interesting perspective on US foreign policy from the head of Human Rights Watch, arguing that the US should be more open & forthright in opposing human rights abuses. I’m inclined to agree in the long term, with skepticism about the short term: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/25/whispering_at_autocrats
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    The images on Al Jazeera English right now are incredible. Some of the commentators are using the phrase “tipping point,” saying that it might be too late for Mubarek, that Egypt will look different when we wake up tomorrow.

  • sacredh

    afguy, that is exactly what I think too. It’s a serious mistake to think that they’re going to elect people that will mirror what we regard as democracy. Majority rule while respecting the rights of the minority? That’s wishful thinking. A majority might want the minority to be severly restricted and have their rights drastically limited. Is that democracy in action? We might not think so, but they might have an entirely different perspective. It’s an entirely different culture with a history that has little in common with our own.

  • afguy

    I agree, sacred.
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    I’ve been making the point for a while now that, because of their history and cultural differences, they may not view “freedom” in the same way we do.
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    The response has always been along the lines of “of course, they think like (and want the same things that) we do – how could you be so stupid as to think otherwise?”
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    Seems like every time they elect a government that’s not friendly to our viewpoint, our reaction has been to withhold something from them (aid?) to “teach them a lesson”.
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    Although Americans are generally well-liked by the citizens in countries there, our government isn’t exactly trusted by the general population in that part of the world – mostly because we’ve worked VERY hard to earn that point of view with our skewed foreign policy over a few generations.

  • koabd

    It’s an entirely different culture with a history that has little in common with our own.
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    I’m sorry, but the history of the Mediterranean is completely interwined. The lands in southern Europe that set the stage for Western culture (i.e. Italy and Greece) have always interacted with and exchanged ideas with the so-called “Eastern cultures” who reside in the places we are discussing today (i.e. North Africa, Judea, Phoencia and Arabia). So, let’s drop the pretense at once that the nations and the people we’re discussing are so alien to Western minds as to be incomprehensible.
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    And with that in mind, let’s drop this idea that, “Hey, they’re so different that it’s probably just in their nature to want to repress the hell out of those different from them — and that’s okay.” I think Elvis Elvisberg’s quote in this area is informative: “Americans will not support those who seek independence in order to replace a far-off tyranny with a local depotism.”

  • michaelfury
  • afguy

    So, let’s drop the pretense at once that the nations and the people we’re discussing are so alien to Western minds as to be incomprehensible.
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    Quite a jump from “not on the same page” to “incomprehensible”, isn’t it? Just because cultures exchanged ideas doesn’t mean they automatically homogenized the result.
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    IIRC, old China “exchanged” ideas and products with that part of the world through history too, but no one would consider them just like southern Europe because they did so.

    Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/01/27/is-the-arab-world-ready-for-democracy/#ixzz1CLRa5r6C

  • sacredh

    “So, let’s drop the pretense at once that the nations and the people we’re discussing are so alien to Western minds as to be incomprehensible.”
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    koabd, that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m not saying they’re alien and incomprehensible, just different. I also don’t think that it is beyond the realm of possibility that they might want to elect leaders that would look to settle old scores. Northern Africa and southern Europe inter-act of course, but that does not mean that they share the same viewpoints or cultural values. Nudity at beach in southern Europe might not even raise an eyebrow. Nudity at a beach in Egypt is a whole different matter. I don’t think you can equate inter-action to a shared tolerance of either social or political mores.

  • koabd

    Quite a jump from “not on the same page” to “incomprehensible”, isn’t it?
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    It would be if that was what I was actually responding to. What I very pointedly responded to was the following concept:
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    It’s an entirely different culture with a history that has little in common with our own.
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    It’s simply not true. The cultures we’re discussing are similar (not the same, afguy) starting at their foundation — Abrahamic religions. Beyond meaning that those around the Mediterraean are monotheist, it also means that religious cultural traditions overlap: the veil is found in all three Abrahamic religions, all three religions look to the Law of Leviticus, all three religions have a conception of Moses’s 10 Commandments, all three have quarreled over the ancient city of Jerusalem, and so on. (And to directly respond to a point sacred made, a nude beach wouldn’t go over too well in Suffolk County, MA, either, so I don’t see that as being a mark of starkly different cultures)
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    On the darker side, the types of religious extremism we ascribe to Islam pops up in the fundamentalism of its sister religions — particularly Christianity — throughout history. My home state of Massachusetts was founded by fundamentalists who, as their name described, were seeking a purity in their religion and forced it upon those they encountered in the New World. The Spanish Inquisition followed a similar path, ridding Ferdinand and Isabella’s newly liberated Spain from heretics, Jews and Muslims.
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    In politics, let’s be realistic here. The troubles that we see in the Arab world could easily have been found in Latin America in the 1980s. Substitute Salafist insurgents with Communist insurgents, and away we go. No one would argue that the Catholic countries in Latin America would form governments that are naturally at odds with Western values or that it might only be natural that said government would repress minorities and settle scores.
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    The problem isn’t alien cultures. It’s that the dominant voices of opposition have long been the religious extremists who seem so alien to 21st century Westerners, but whose ideas would have made sense to a 16th century European.
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    So, where some see a culture that is “entirely different,” I see one that grew up in the same Mediterranean as the culture we cherish. And I think it’s false to assume that differences on the periphery (usually related to social mores) mean there’s a fundamental difference in what those people would seek in a government.

  • afguy

    And I think it’s false to assume that differences on the periphery (usually related to social mores) mean there’s a fundamental difference in what those people would seek in a government.
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    And I make the point that it’s ALSO false to automatically assume that their choices WILL always look like ours, followed by the assumption that, if they make a choice that is not to our liking, dark forces MUST have been at work to subvert the will of the people (as WE see it).
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    Let them make the choice and we should live with it.

  • afguy

    I would make the additional point that, since we aren’t exactly “walking the walk” with our practical positions on torture and domestic surveillance of our own citizens, we aren’t in exactly the best position to lecture ANYONE on what democracy and proper regard for human rights is supposed to look like at the present time.
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    That’s why you get the spectacle of a Russian reporter almost mocking the Press Secretary on our statements and policies regarding human rights in the rest of the world.

  • sacredh

    koabd, you make some interesting points that are worth being examined and given further consideration. Religion influences the governments far more in the Islamic countries than they do here and the brand of religious devotion makes our own seem tame by comparison. I agree that the darker side of religious extemism colors our perceptions and is by no means entirely absent in our own culture, but the practical results of the extremism manifests itself in ways that we regard as totally unacceptable. I can’t even imagine the public outcry if adulterers were beaten or stoned by the authorities here.
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    I honestly don’t feel that it is false to assume that there are fundamental differences in what people in different countries want in a government. I don’t believe that there is a universal standard and that it varies wildly from one country to another.
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    Thanks for a thought provoking discussion.

  • sacredh

    Thanks also to afguy although I see very little difference in our opinions on this particualr subject.

  • formerlyjames

    This is a very interesting discussion. I nod in agreement with most of the points made, but I do lean toward the point that regardless of the historic facts pointed out by koabd, the modern societies on each side of the Mediterranean have evolved very differently. The religious origins cited no longer hold much sway in Europe as on the other side. Israel may reflect the divergence as a religious based democratic state. Whether that can exist beyond is an interesting thought. I don’t know.

  • koabd

    And I make the point that it’s ALSO false to automatically assume that their choices WILL always look like ours, followed by the assumption that, if they make a choice that is not to our liking, dark forces MUST have been at work to subvert the will of the people (as WE see it).
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    I don’t think I’ve ever argued against this, so we’re in agreement.
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    Religion influences the governments far more in the Islamic countries than they do here and the brand of religious devotion makes our own seem tame by comparison.
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    It’s an interesting thought, but again, I think this is a matter of appearance rather than differences in how cultures embrace their religion. Piety has always played a role in Western governance: religious ceremony was part and parcel of the Roman government; European kings ruled by divine right; the Pope ordered successive armies to march on Jerusalem; the Massachusetts Bay colony was a theocracy; Mexico was founded as a Catholicism as its official religion; and for all practical purposes, an athiest can’t get elected president of these United States. What you’re discussing, rather, is the overtness of religion in governing, rather than actual influence.
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    For this, there are circumstantial reasons why Islamic countries put “Islamic” in their names and in their constitutions, ones that would be apparent to a 16th century European. You start with the question of how do you establish legitimacy for your government in a country with strong religious roots and a largely undereducated population. The answer, obviously, is to play to the piety of people — you swaddle yourself in the trappings of faith, telling the people that God wants you to rule (a la Divine rights of Kings). This was how Muhammed Zia-ul-Haq consolidated power in Pakistan in the 1980s. And you set yourself up as the defender of the faith showering money and favor on those who are “doing God’s work” while also carrying water for you (a la Europe’s kings and their relationship with the Papacy). This is what we’ve seen Saudi Arabia and Iran do with their oil wealth. It doesn’t matter whether or not you really believe what you’re saying (see Gaddafi getting religion late), it only matters that you put on a good show and keep money flowing tho the clerics.
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    This doesn’t mean that secularism doesn’t exist. There were actually plenty of secularists in the Middle East in the ’50s, ’60s and ’70s. Problem was, they were communists and socialists. So, they obviously didn’t get the support of the West as they struggled for democracy in the autocratic faux-theocracies (in fact, many Western countries, not just the US, worked against these groups). So, over time, these secular voices were silenced. What remained? Well, religion was still allowed, by necessity. And in those religious schools and houses of worship grew the dissent that would matastisize into your Islamic fundamentalist groups.
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    So again, I don’t think these are things unique to the Middle East. I think these are things that could happen in all countries with Abrahamic-based religions.

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