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“Even…CNN continued its descent into breathless irrelevance, overwhelmed by a thundering horde of hoary political consultants, overanalyzing every quotidian hiccup and microscopic movement in the polls”
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Et tu, TIME Dead-tree and Newsweek?
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“quotidian…zeitgeist…perfunctory”…
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Fewer $2 words in ’11, Joe, please?

Joe, I disagree with your last sentence. There is a cure: lead by example. Write more often about those abstract thingies you want us to deal with. Have your swampmates do the same: I’d rather see posts / thoughts on how to put everyone back to work …especially the 99’ers… than another goddam Palin post. Or another post about bad economic numbers (we already know they suck!) without proposed solutions.
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Make this your ’11 resolution thingy: translate complex issues for a bigger audience. (I wish you’d also resolve to clean up this site’s constant stream of childish insults, condescension, and thread hijacking from RW commenters, but I digress.) Take your $2 words (thanks, nfl) and put ‘em to better use. Dr. Carl Sagan was a brilliant writer at explaining complex sciences better than any textbook. At TIME, Catherine Mayer makes British politics easy to understand for us Heathen Yankees. So stop whining already, Joe (leave that to us commenters, that’s what we do best) and get back to work.

Nothing much happened in 2010 or so says the dullard, Joe Klein.
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But, let’s break down Joe Klein’s perception of the world as we now know it for 2010.
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“Obama’s approval rating remained remarkably stable, in the mid-40s, not bad at all given a putrid zeitgeist and a half-crazed, screechy opposition.”

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I start out with this quote to show how out of touch, and how Klein is totally outside of the known reality when he reports or merely throws out more scuttlebutt.
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Putrid zeitgeist? Half-crazed, screechy opposition? Are you serious Klein? And then you wonder why people do not take you seriously as you throw out your slurs and innuendos like cracked-corn to a flock of chickens.
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But, when the opposition of the far left liberal zealots like Joe Klein are upset with someone, you can also count on them to react in the manner Klein has today in his “Latest Column”. Drivel and humorless gibberish.
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Well Klein, it is like this. The 2010 election was nothing short of historic. The Tea Party in mass have thrown out of office more Democrats than ever before in our country’s history. That’s a fact. The Tea Party has stopped your famed and illustrious leader, Barack Obama, in his tracks. The Tea Party has successfully returned Republicans from becoming a lesser known wing of the progressives, with their huge spending programs, to one of more conservative fiscally responsible ideals this country has not witnessed for more than 80 years.
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Why TIME.com wastes their time with your likes is un-imaginable? Why TIME wastes good paper and ink on a pinheaded simpleton like you is really the great question of 2010?

You, on the other hand, are not God’s gift to electronica.

…dear rusty is the quintessence of everything I’d like to read less of in ’11. I forgot to add wanting to see blogwhoring and sockpuppetry cleaned up too.

What Joe Klein neglects to state or question about our dear Leader, Barack Obama.
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Why are more Americans not out-raged for the simple fact that this President has squandered 2 years of our lives and trillions of dollars? What has been the outcome from all of that spending and those 2 years, Mr Klein? More jobs? NOPE. An economy that is out-pacing any other economy on the face of the earth? NOPE. What did Barry do in his first two years in office?
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A reviled and hated healthcare program which has not only set us back even further in our efforts to reform it, but now will cost on average 40% more than it did prior to the bill being signed into law. Don’t you think that might be the reason most people, the vast majority of people, now 60% of the people do not like or want ObamaCare Mr Klein?
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
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RustFreep, you’re obviously the lead dog consummate (read: $2 ) talking points sponge around these parts. Whatever Flox or Flush or Bleck or Rasmussen or whomever feeds you you just sop it up like a biscuit to Mom’s gravy; do you even stop to think that most of what they say is exaggerated, deliberately misconstrued or bold-faced lying for “entertainment value”? If you have even a quarter of a thalamus (+$2) you would think every now and then before you spout off and make yourself look, once again, foolish.

“Whatever Flox or Flush or Bleck or Rasmussen or whomever feeds you you just sop it up like a biscuit to Mom’s gravy; do you even stop to think that most of what they say is exaggerated, deliberately misconstrued or bold-faced lying for “entertainment value”?”
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Just what we need more sanctimonious nonsense from the left. It’s always somebody’s lying, we are misunderstood. Reality- America rejects liberalism time and time again every time a tiny glimpse of your agenda is shown. The liars and the exaggeration comes from the left who are incensed daily that you can spit out crap without resistance now. .
You decry Fox Beck etc but they are far outnumbered by the blowhard MSM on the left who all sing the same hymn Doubt that? Go back and check Journolist

Freeinpa, give foghorn a chance here. Let him explain in words even the average 5th grader can comprehend. Let him state exactly where I have mis-spoke or used any data from Fox or other conservatives which is blatantly false or even inaccurate.
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My guess, as usual, foghorn is nothing but his usual blowhard far left liberal extremist. I have found over time, most things uttered from the keyboard of blowhard foghorn is NOT an E.F. Hutton moment. It is generally like the propaganda out of the current North Korean regime trying desperately to prop up a fat, baby-faced kid to be their next “dear Leader”. Pretty much the same as those on the left have been doing for two years now with our own “dear Leader”, the former Community Organizer.

Here’s a novel idea decon: if you don’t like it don’t fckin read it!
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Seems you have this illusion that everyone hangs on your every word. NOT!

Guess us consevatives forgot to read the rules to this blog that said liberals only.

“There is a cure: lead by example.”

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Confucius once said, “it is difficult to lead by example, when ones head is firmly planted up inside ones backside”.
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Hey decondiva-wannabe. How’s that sucking up going for you lately? I haven’t been on much lately as there hasn’t been any reason to banter with you libtards.

“Go back and check Journolist”
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I remember that – the outrage over nothing. What is it with ideologues and their constant need for fake outrage. It’s like they’re anger junkies or something? Isn’t reality real enough?

You’re right, rusty. We haven’t seen you much ‘round here lately. Have you been spending the time trying to get back on redstate? Or still composing that apology to Tumulty? You might want to write some to Pickert and Newton-Small too for your past trangressions.

The Tea Party has successfully returned Republicans… (to) more conservative fiscally responsible ideals this country has not witnessed for more than 80 years.
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Hope you’re right. Fiscal responsibility requires making people pay for the services they get. When people feel it, they will look more critically at all spending, including defense. Because the only way your statement has any chance of being remotely accurate is if they pressure DC to slash a few hundred billion out of defense. -No one wants to allow the govt to keep our SS or medicare deductions. -Earmark spending is only $16.5 B per year (link), and often legitimate.. it’s too small to have an impact like you suggest. And this new-found responsibility will require no tax decreases that we can’t afford– once we cut spending, we can enjoy the tax reduction. I hope you’re working on that with your fellow TPers.

A right wing hijacker, right on cue.
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How about a right wing hijacker realizes he is little more than an irritation and goes away?

I’m glad you brought up jouno-lister, hippo. Who could write something about 2010 and was involved with one of Journalisms saddest moments in all time, and not comment about it in his reflections on 2010.
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How bout it Joe Klein? Are you going to finally admit to your involvement and how terrible and under-handed it truly was? Or, will you go into history known forever as “just one of those jounolisters from 2008″?
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I have an idea. Why not show how the propaganda in 2008 from the far left liberal media types like you backed Obama and compare it to how North Korea is doing the same today in Thompson’s article in the next thread.

My problem with you neocon guys is not that you disagree with me, but that you don’t base your opinons on what YOU believe, compounded by your name-calling. I don’t go around acting all smug or thinking, like apparently you do, those who disagree with me are all stupid:
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(“if you don’t like it don’t fckin read it!”)
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I think I speak for a lot of Swampies when I say that people have tired of your compulsive juvenile acts of meanness.

“Here’s a novel idea decon: if you don’t like it don’t fckin read it!”
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Two thirds, everybody has been saying that to you for the entire year!
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Yet you come back again and again for more punishment.

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“Seems you have this illusion that everyone hangs on your every word. NOT!”
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Two thirds! HOW DARE YOU!
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That insult above I thought was reserved for me only.
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Now you’re using it for so many people it has no meaning anymore.
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“Guess us consevatives forgot to read the rules to this blog that said liberals only.”
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No, but there is a clear implication that it is for sane and reasonable debates and not moronic, knee jerk reactions by the extreme right.

“The liars and the exaggeration comes from the left who are incensed daily that you can spit out crap without resistance now. .”
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Your definition of “the left” include:
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All PhD Biologists.
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All PhD Economists.
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All PhD Geologists.
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All PhD Climatologist.
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All Constitutional attorneys
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It is not “the left” you are angry with, Freak, it is reality knocking on your door and you just don’t want to answer it.

“one of Journalisms saddest moments in all time, and not comment about it in his reflections on 2010.”
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O M G
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That teeny expression perfectly articulates how the journolist outragegate relates to so many sad moments in all time.
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Let me give it couple of stabs.
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WW II. Pretty sad. Vietnam based on a lie like Tonkin bay incident. Watergate. The first mother of a gate. Even Clintons BJ is probably a much sadder moment.
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Journolist?
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The fakegate that rightie blogosphere drummed up that turned up to be the sound of a guy whos talent is to be able to fart on command.
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2010 has been quite a year for partisan disputes.

If a Democrat says it, the Republicans in lockstep reject it.

If the president says “Good morning” the Republicans will respond with that the president is ordering people what kind of a morning to have and that is unconstitutional to order people around like that.

I have seen nothing but extreme desperation on the right since from Reagan’s election in 1980 until this president and both houses went Democratic, Republicans have had every wish they ever had granted and has driven our economy down to levels not seen in eighty years.

They have nothing left on their wish list, so they attack, attack and attack more. If truth doesn’t serve them well, they happily, through Fox, Beck, Savage. Limbaugh and Palin happily lie through their teeth just to win over support.

Mr Klein. I ask that you please refrain from attacks. Bashing groups of people only serves to pit us against one another. Exactly like the elites want. It keeps us squabbling and pointing to the bad guy (see your comments)- rather than analyzing and debating. By all means, be critical when you feel necessary (we will criticize you when inspired). But criticize policy, not tribe- that only makes us defensive and enforces divisions. This “us vs them, left v right” is an elite-sponsored meme. We are not against one another, we are bound together. We all want the same thing– better solutions. Concentrate on that.

“The fakegate that rightie blogosphere drummed up that turned up to be the sound of a guy whos talent is to be able to fart on command”
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Coming soon “Fakeogate”
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No Democrats did anything wrong, but, the far wight still soar from Watergate more than 35 years ago and Iran Contra 25 years ago, they need a real “gate” get excited about.
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Fakeogate: Coming to a Fox Chanel near you. Rated R for Republican.

“I remember that – the outrage over nothing”
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And that is the typical liberal response every time they are caught along with “it’s old news” , or “but look what the Repubs did when”
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The pay no attention to that man behind the curtain doesn’t fly—except for the liberals

Here’s a quarter, call someone that truly cares what you think, Bubba.
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If you think that 2010 was the mother of all years of opposition to the far left liberal extremism, you are a proponent of, you haven’t seen ANYTHING yet.

It’s interesting. Back in the day the red scare was real. Across the pond was this empire called USSR and they had missiles. And in a heartpounding event it looked like they had them a breath away in Cuba.
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Irrational as that fear was communism wasn’t just scary, it was real.
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Now compare that to the stick your finger in the ears crowd that make claims about Socialism without any real evidence of it. It’s just a bunch of scary nonsensical words strung together by pundits and a fearful drooly crowd hiding under their beds. Maybe it’s unfair, cause I believe that even selfprofessed wise people like 3x shouldn’t have to be like that.
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But they are. The earth is till flat, as proven by a crowd that rejects common sense because they need a reason to be p!ssed off.
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Just imagine if people was p!ssed off about real things and what we could accomplish then?
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To the ‘deathpanels’ to them, lead over to cliff by intellectual giants like Sarah. If they trust her so much maybe they should let them take them through a wilderness hike without ‘real’ guides next time and see what the heck happens.
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Lord of the flies still rules and I bet ya betcha gets eaten first.

Asking Klein to give up his Elitism? Why, that is like asking Obama to give up eating arugula and instead “cling to his religion (Islam) and guns”.
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/joe-klein-smackdown-pt-2-glenn-beck-in-the-library-with-a-pipe/

If a Democrat says it, the Republicans in lockstep reject it.”
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And of course the reverse is never true.
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The biggest lie continues to be liberals lying to themselves!

“Mr Klein. I ask that you please refrain from attacks. Bashing groups of people only serves to pit us against one another.”
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pintortwo: He can’t. This is what journalism has become over the past 30 years. MSM was more circumspect abut it but now they have given up the pretense. They don’t report news they want to be news. Both the right and left are guilty. For the most part the right admits to it while the left remains in denial

“And that is the typical liberal response every time they are caught along with “it’s old news” , or “but look what the Repubs did when”
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The pay no attention to that man behind the curtain doesn’t fly—except for the liberals”
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Right on cue – liberals are mean.
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That is your TYPICAL response. Do you also think this is the saddest moment of all time too?

“And yet, if you watched the news — especially the epileptic seizure that passes for news on cable television (and in certain precincts of the blogosphere) — you’d think that we were facing Armageddon, Sodom, Gomorrah and the last days of Pompeii all at once. This was especially true of Fox News, which emerged in 2010 as a full partner and funder of not just the Republican Party but also of that party’s loony-tunes conspiratorial extreme. On the other side of the barricades, MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann had more than a few moments of solipsistic self-righteousness (and his contributions to political candidates were no less questionable than Rupert Murdoch’s, if not nearly as large). Even modest, moderate CNN continued its descent into breathless irrelevance, overwhelmed by a thundering horde of hoary political consultants, overanalyzing every quotidian hiccup and microscopic movement in the polls.”
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Yes we need more reasoned commentary like this from April of this year-
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During an appearance Sunday on NBC’s “The Chris Matthews Show,” Klein said that much of the heated political rhetoric “especially the ones coming from people like Glenn Beck and to a certain extent Sarah Palin, rub right up close to being seditious”
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Do remove the log from your own eye, then continue the lecture on tone.

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Right on cue – liberals are mean”
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No just arrogant, condescending and not nearly as smart as they keep telling us they are. Have nay doubt ask a liberal (like Rev Jim) he will tell you what a renaissance man he is despite being a dropout and a failure at every thing he has tried.

“This was especially true of Fox News, which emerged in 2010 as a full partner and funder of not just the Republican Party”
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And of course they are far worse than MSNBC, CNN because liberasl say so.

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Again liberals keep lying to themselves.

“No just arrogant, condescending and not nearly as smart as they keep telling us they are. Have nay doubt ask a liberal (like Rev Jim) he will tell you what a renaissance man he is despite being a dropout and a failure at every thing he has tried.”
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Of course we are. Elitist know it all evil mean liberals. I mean that’ll substitute any argument anywhere.
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So is Journolist your saddest moment of all times as well?
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Better yet – why don’t you ask me if I’m fat like my ID or imply that I’m a girlie man instead.
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You’re the last person here to complain about the arrogance, condenscending nature of liberals. Lead the way Moses if you have the b@lls.

“Solipsistic” @ $2.75.
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Freep, Flox doesn’t tell the truth and never apologizes for doing so. Of course you don’t get it….

Slightly OT but relevant to 2011:

Republicans just got rid of “paygo,” so don’t expect deficits to go down any time soon.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_12/027285.php

Asking Klein to give up his Elitism?
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Well, I’m referring to elites in terms of money and influence. Those that can effect legislation via donations to re-election coffers or commercials (for a candidate, or an opposing candidate if they don’t get “cooperation”), or manage public opinion by information manipulation, think-tankery and revenue to a willing media. The ones that “frankly own the place” (paraphrased a bit). Those elites want us bickering instead of really studying our policies -the ones they influence – and devising remedies for their failures.
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Klein is not elite in that sense- he just thinks he’s smarter than us (a different kind of elite, I guess). He is a purveyor of Conventional Village Wisdom, not a string-puller.

You mean Nancy Pelosi’s paygo, right? Now remind me again when the past Congress, the 111th Congress used paygo?

…or rather than joining the race to the lowest common denominator, keep up the adult-level writing and let readers educate themselves: http://www.merriam-webster.com

“You mean Nancy Pelosi’s paygo, right? Now remind me again when the past Congress, the 111th Congress used paygo?”
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Is it relevant WHICH paygo they got rid off? I thought the GOP was going to get all fiscal on us. Shouldn’t you guys lead by example and not adopting OUR wicked ways?

Never use a long word where a short one will do.
George Orwell, Politics and the English Language
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And of course remember the ol’ Faulkner vs. Hemmingway feud thingy….
http://grumpyoldbookman.blogspot.com/2004/07/faulkner-v-hemingway.html

Trying to talk to libtards like you is like bashing your head up against a brick wall and then wonder why your head hurts.
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Practice what you preach first “Moses” and then maybe someone might consider you as credible.

“MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann had more than a few moments of solipsistic self-righteousness (and his contributions to political candidates were no less questionable than Rupert Murdoch’s, if not nearly as large).”
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Yes, I see your point. As you suggest, Keith Olbermann runs his mouth. Rupert Murdoch runs one of the world’s largest media organizations that purports to be and is usually treated as a legitimate non-partisan news organization. Other than that, your predictable, gratuitous, false-equivalency is…tiresome.

Pintortwo:
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Yes I agree with what you have said, but I also believe there is a 2nd type of elitism, the so-called intellectual elitism which many if not all of our liberal friends practice and is evidenced here in the swamp on a daily basis. The same group who look down their noses at Sarah Palin or the Tea Party. That group of LIBTARDS.
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I wouldn’t put Klein in among all of those evil wealthy corporatist, but I definitely do put him in the evil so-called intellectual elitists which Obama is their leader.

I have a question for rusty.
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If this country has rejected liberalism, as you claim, then why does social security continue to be one of the most loved liberal programs? Medicare is extremely popular as well. Why is that? How about our paid police and fire protection? Even the idea of an all-volunteer army is a pretty liberal idea.
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If the majority in this country were to really “reject liberalism” as you claim they have in the midterm election, then all of these programs would have to be slashed. Public transportation? Nope, too liberal. Public library-liberal. I submit there are literally hundreds of “liberal” programs which the right uses every day without thinking about it. Liberal programs that would have many on the right kicking up a fit if they thought they were going to lose them.

“My problem with you neocon guys is not that you disagree with me, but that you don’t base your opinons on what YOU believe, compounded by your name-calling. I don’t go around acting all smug or thinking, like apparently you do, those who disagree with me are all stupid”
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The sad part is that you believe all of this. Both are lies, the first backed by nothing but your assertion. The second is a delusional lie to yourself. You have done the name-calling on more than one occasion. And like other liberals you get your knickers twisted when their is return fire.

Don’t forget socialized police and fire departments. And all that productive farmland that was seized at gunpoint developed into interstate highways, a program started by …Eisenhower, that filthy Communist.

“Freep, Flox doesn’t tell the truth and never apologizes for doing so. Of course you don’t get it”
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And neither does the MSM. So either you don’t get it or you just lie to yourself all the while making yourself feel superior by blaming Fox.

“Is it relevant WHICH paygo they got rid off? I thought the GOP was going to get all fiscal on us. Shouldn’t you guys lead by example and not adopting OUR wicked ways?”
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The typical sanctimony followed by a generous helping of misdirection

Patrick, you have to admit on climate change you made a huge error in appointing Al Gore your spokesman. Your movement was doomed and you had to sense it at the time. The movement was never about science but about money and with this GOP house the gravy train is already drying up. Sure the Europeans will buy anything but even they are done with it if only because they understand they won’t get the opportunity to redistribute American Wealth and they don’t have much of their own.

BTW: Hanson at NASA is toast. This congress is going to assign criminal penalties for withholding public data from the public. Seems James thinks it’s his property. The boys who cause Climategate have been doing God work. Every time they release data we find out it’s not what they said it was. It sucks now to be a scientist on the federal dole knowing your peer review isn’t going to be done by your buddy also on the dole but by a scientist most likely from
private industry.

“Trying to talk to libtards like you is like bashing your head up against a brick wall and then wonder why your head hurts.
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Practice what you preach first “Moses” and then maybe someone might consider you as credible.”
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Never mind how retarded I must be. You’re the one who made the statement that it’s alright since the liberals didn’t abide by their paygo.
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Between Freeinpa accusing me of being sanctimonious and you avoiding the tough question I wonder when you’ll have the b@lls to call out your own political side. So how is it? Is it alright to remove paygo because liberals failed to follow it, or is it okay to remove paygo because the right side is just doing what liberals do? Seems like a pretty damn weak argument to me. And you accuse me of preaching? WTF is wrong with your logical center?
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No wonder you and Freeinpa have to use lame name calling when you realize that your argument is rotten. BTW – don’t stop banging your head in the wall on my account. Sooner or later the light will come on that you’re not exactly on the side of common sense. Don’t take my word for it; try it and you’ll see.
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As for Moses – that’s a reference to Freeinpa for whining and b!tching about us wicked liberals while doing more of the same that he is so upset about. You have your lame libtard and I have my Moses referense. I’m just waiting for Moses (Freeinpa) to lead us lost ones out of the desert. But somehow he took a wrong turn and he’s just to much man to stop and ask.

As far I know, they’ve been using paygo. That’s why the ACA had to be paid for. Do you have different information?

There are times whern a writer has to turn out a felicitous phrase ($2.50) and I have to say that I think “quotidian hiccup” is worth the trip to the dictionary. Although I think it may be an alt-rock band in San Francisco . . .

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This sort of thing can get out of hand, however, as Bill Buckley used to demonstrate. If we catch Joe using words like “abstemious” or “cthonic”, then I say we go after him.

“Patrick, you have to admit on climate change you made a huge error in appointing Al Gore your spokesman. Your movement was doomed and you had to sense it at the time. The movement was never about science but about money and with this GOP house the gravy train is already drying up. Sure the Europeans will buy anything but even they are done with it if only because they understand they won’t get the opportunity to redistribute American Wealth and they don’t have much of their own. ”
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Patrick, I didn’t know you had the power to appoint Al Gore spokesman of anything. Kudos to your wicked powers.

I’m tired of the lazy ‘reject socialism’ by a bunch of halfbaked libertarians that always have to pull the ‘oh look a evil liberal’ to explain why their logic fails on every single practical example of a argument for or against ‘liberal’ policy. That’s why they need nefarious words like socialism.
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Because it’s associated with a feeling. Not actually a practical modern American example. But a Eastern European ‘uneasy’ feeling.
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For once I’d like an example. Not just the ‘word’.

I have had the opportunity to hang out with both kinds of elites – the Ivy League academic sort and the corporatist fat cats – and I can tell you two things 1) they aren’t as far apart as you might think and 2) of the two, the “intellectual elite” has far more empathy for working and middle class people than the corporate crowd. Self-pitying red staters dwell on the “flyover” meme to keep their fires of self righteous anger burning but their simply is not any hatred in the academic circles for the hinterland. Big city liberals would do well to understand rural America better to be sure, but the situation is nothing like the way the Rustys of the world present it.

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It actually is more like the classic exchange in “Casablanca”:

“You despise me, don’t you, Rick?”

“If I gave you a thought, I might.”

If this country has rejected liberalism, as you claim, then why does social security continue to be one of the most loved liberal programs? Medicare is extremely popular as well. Why is that? How about our paid police and fire protection?
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Social security continues to be one of the most loved liberal programs? Got any factual data to support that claim? I didn’t think so.
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Anyone 55 years of age or younger know full well when we retire despite paying in for all of our working lives will have next to nothing in a socialist / liberal retirement program. I have two Aunts who basically live off of social security. They have not had a raise in their cost of living because the government has decided there is no reason for a cost of living increase in their social security benefit. They also worked all of their lives paying into this Ponzi-like scheme born from your progressive delusions. They still are not able to pay for their medical expenses and food at the same time. Their children still have to give them money each month to survive. Yea, that is really a program worth touting over, keep up your schizophrenic dreams and delusions. You might convince someone someday.
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Medicare is “extremely” popular, as opposed to what my dear? As opposed to ACA or the Dems lame excuse for healthcare reform?
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Next Libtarded question please!!

“As far I know, they’ve been using paygo. That’s why the ACA had to be paid for. Do you have different information?”

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Oh you mean the billion dollars or so which was in the Omnibus bill which went down to defeat in the most recent lame duck session?
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Yea, that wasn’t funded or paid for, just added to our national debt. I am very happy it went down and was defeated.
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Next!!

“No wonder you and Freeinpa have to use lame name calling when you realize that your argument is rotten.”

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I suppose anyone who really cares what you think, can simply look as to when and what time the name calling started in this and other threads today. They can quickly determine it was YOU and the rest of your libtard friends who started it.
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Next!!

“Anyone 55 years of age or younger know full well when we retire despite paying in for all of our working lives will have next to nothing in a socialist / liberal retirement program”
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“We”? So if you are at the oldest 55 that means you were 15 in 1970. What years did you fight in Viet Nam again?
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Your biography always impresses but who knew you served as a child. You were a regular Audie Murphy!

newrusty: You’ve been gone? Who knew? Guess you weren’t missed.

Joe, false equivalency. Please let us know how Olbermann’s opinions compare with the daily barage of propaganda from Fox. Olbermann has good producers and researchers. When he errs he follows with a correction.
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I hear more outrageous statements from your friend Matthews. Some days his tourettes is out of control. As far as Olbermann’s contribution of a few hundred bucks to some Dems, it was probably unethical.
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Now if all journalists were transparent about their spouses connections and their speaking fees from interest groups and their friendships with people they write about, I might be more outraged.

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2.1, 3.0, 4.1 but Patrick did accuse righties to reject everything in lockstep, 5.1 but that was not much of a insult, kind of lame-clever, 8.1 – libtard. Not much of an insult – childish mostly but it does imply how someone is inferior because of their politics.9.3 although repeating the same lame insult just makes it more lame.
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I’d say you have a great case in how I or any liberal do take every opportunity to insult.
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Lets see, what was the worst that I could say…I called Freeinpa Moses. I’m guessing that’s pretty ironic, which I guess is really bad. 4.2 is pretty bad, drooly crowd. 8.2 in response to you – WTF is wrong with your logical center? Yeah, what’s wrong with it?
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Anyways, you were saying?

“Patrick, I didn’t know you had the power to appoint Al Gore spokesman of anything. Kudos to your wicked powers.”
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Shshshshsh.
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You know that members of the Illuminati aren’t supposed to talk about our power.
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“It’s interesting that back in the day the liberal America haters were in love with the USSR…”
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Harry Truman: Korean War
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JFK: Cuban Missile Crisis
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LBJ: Vietnam
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This is how you feel love, when you are attacked?
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I guess if troops attack the Koch brothers…. I mean Tea Party… I mean Exxon Mobil headquarters…. I mean the Tea Party… I mean the insurance industry … or maybe, the Tea Party you’ll feel as loved as Communists.
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Since we liberals honor the constitution, we can’t show our “love” for the Tea Party by dropping millions of tons of bombs as we did against communists.
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Love = beating the crap out of.
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I think Husein might be into gay S&M.
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Please find another website when you want to feel that kind of love.

“e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism (-ltzm, -l-)
n.
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
2.
a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.”
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When do, say, liberals state that Harvard Graduates get special treatment by the government?
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Never.
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When do the wealthiest Americans believe that they are due tax breaks.
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If they are members of the Republican Party since 1980, always.
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When do, say, Columbia graduates demand that the cabinet and elected officials only be Ivy League graduates?
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Never.
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When do Republicans demand that cabinet members and members of congress have extensive corporate experience, in particular in the fields they are regulating (despite a potential conflict of interest)?
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Very often.
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So, you may chose to say that you perceive that people with graduate degrees and/or people with graduate degrees from particular universities come across as smug, but, actual elitism – the belief in privileged due to status (wealth in this case) is exclusively the territory of Republicans.
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If you said “smug” or to be even more fair “come across as smug” to describe particular liberals, it wouldn’t be ridiculous like the party of elitists (Republicans) calling liberals elitist.
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Here in the swamp or anywhere else online where people are not truly identified, what is an Ivy League PhD worth?
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Without a link, that and a full metro card will get you a ride on the subway.

“And neither does the MSM.”
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IOW:
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the opportunity to redistribute American Wealth
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What.. redistribute American Wealth away from OPEC members, multi-nationals, former US companies now headquartered in Dubai (Haliburton, for instance) and to US owned and operated cos, using a product produced locally, with Americans holding patents on the technology, for sale domestically and abroad… great!

“Do you have different information?”
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No Link from trusty Rusty.
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IOW: No I don’t, Art. I just think saying that Democrats busting budgets sounds really cool to say.

Who ever besides yourself laid claim you were an elitist, sartor.
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You are just a fat, dumb, ex-cab driving poor real estate agent in one of the worst real estate down turns known to man. That alone shows how stupid you truly are. Elitist, never.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

#
# Right wing Crackhead Function
#
# Intended to guide user on likely outcome of debate
# with rusty or freeinpa
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# Import definitions
import implications
import stereotypes
import comment
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# Initiate and Set variables
statement = nil
insult = ["libtard", "moonbat", "commie", "socialist"+ [list implications]+ [list stereotypes]]
response
. . with sender
LastWord
butt = posterior oraface
LastWord = False
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# initialize
bomb = Get(comment.Random) + Get(insult.Random)
Throw(statement)
Get(response)
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# run
If response bomb
. . Loop until(LastWord = True)
. . . . throw(insult)
. . . . get(response)
. . . . if (response.IsNull)
. . . . . . LastWord = True
. . end Loop
else
. . Sniff(butt.(sender))

“daily barage of propaganda from Fox”

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Some OLD, tired and worn out far left liberal woman is hitting the wacky weed again.

Newfree, I could care less about intellectual elitism. That doesn’t make me feel bad, and if it did, it still wouldn’t mean anything when compared to the type of elitism I mention- the kind that writes laws.
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The same group who look down their noses at Sarah Palin or the Tea Party
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This is the division I talk about that elites love. SP is Rupert Murdoch’s tool to influence elite-centric (corporate) policies. She is divisive and plays a great victim- the fact that she “seems so much like you and me” allows Murdoch to cast elites as the victim so supporters don’t realize they’re getting screwed and opponents focus on personality rather than policy. I hope that the Teaparty can evolve beyond Fox, SP and the media’s definition of them to push for real conservatism. The kind that abhors military adventurism, weapons-as-jobs-programs and loopholes, values transparency, respects Constitutional Law and wants the Fed to keep out of our personal choices.

“…Patti, considering you have a great deal of experience in that area perhaps you can give some tips….”
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IOW:
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I don’t know why they cast Paul Rubins to play your part.
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He’s much too macho for playing you.
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If I understand correctly, this is what Larry Craig did in men’s bathrooms at airports.
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I’m not a Midwestern Conservative much less gay, so, I’d leave that to your expertise.

I’m 57 and I totally disagree with that statment!
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I received my SS statement a week ago. It is not zero!
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In addition, had the GOP privatized benefits before 2008, my SS would have been EXACTLY ZERO.
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Keep your rotten mitts of my SS, rusty…

She’s exactly right, rusty.
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After all, you could go an entire day and never hear anything but the GOP line. Just like the 700 club.
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Funded and paid for by the GOP.
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What would one expect….

“…real estate agent in one of the worst real estate down turns known to man. ”
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The Great Depression was far worse, but, since we have some Democrats in office, it should take less than 16 years for a recovery.
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“Elitist, never.”
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Thank you.
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I thought you were going to say that having studied at Harvard Extension made me an elitist.
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When I finish Columbia after the economy picks up, can I keep this quote?

Husein,
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This is moronic.
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Are you asking for a list of women I’ve slept with in my life?
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This is too ridiculous.

Rdw,
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Al Gore never made $1 from An Inconvenient Truth, his books nor his speaking engagements (other than transportation and a hotel, I presume) that was not donated to environmental charities.
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There is no reason to doubt that he does not believe in what he is saying.
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If you don’t like him as a spokesman, that’s fine.
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First, I suspect that the far right would kill any messenger.
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Second, all famous people have somebody who dislikes them.
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Most importantly, nobody made him anything.
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He used his name, money and influence and created the movie. He made himself a spokesperson since nobody with any fame wanted the job badly enough to take it.

Thanks for “chthonic.” I had to look that one up (and still unsure about spelling) …and there is a rock band named Chthonic….
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Yeah, I can see Joe, Adam, and Kate dancing to this band at the NYC TIME Holiday Office Party™.

I’m not interested in who you slept with and I agree that it is moronic, however, you are the one who initiated this nonsense.

Wow, nothing happened? Some very serious pieces of legislation got passed with the help of some heavy weight republicans that formed a Team of Rivals with Obama.
The tea party made up of a large pool of extreme political ideologies and intolerance with very little real understanding of how Washington works hurt the Grand Old Party pretty badly in 2010. The GOP should be worried because many of the members of the tea-party are out to take over, and or, destroy The Grand Old Party as we know it.

“…you are the one who initiated this nonsense.”
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“It’s interesting that back in the day the liberal America haters were in love with the USSR and decried the evils of the United States..”
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You told me that I hate America Ashole!
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Liberal Democrats fought and died alongside all other Americans in the fight for freedom from Fascism on the right and Communism on the very far left.
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Get your history straight even if you aren’t.

“AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!”
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Dear Joe,

First, I’m not trying to blow smoke up yer butt, but your writing and depth of knowledge are pretty much the best online– and I’m reading everything I can get my hands on, from Foreign Policy to Al Jazeera to The Atlantic.

I’ve noticed, though, that since Richard Holbrooke died, your prose have gotten significantly downbeat. It’s understandable of course. I just felt the need to say something– an e-hug of sorts– because it seems like you need one. I appreciate all the great work you do and I hope you feel better soon.

Enjoy the holidays,
Tim

You get 10 points for your screen name alone.

You and the rest of the liberals have a great hatred for America. I just don’t care about the boys you have slept with.

I’m thinking 32 sacred. 10 per unit conveyance, plus 2 for the suffix.

Husein,
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If you loved America, you’d support workers through unions.
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If you loved America, you’d support maintaining a safety net to take care of Americans when illness and job loss happen.
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If you loved America you’d support alternative energy to get us off of foreign oil.
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But you hate America.
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You like it when we import from China when Chinese workers make 15% of what Americans make and force Americans out of work.
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You’re thrilled with oil companies rape our country by turning the Gulf of Mexico into a cesspool and make driving down to the store to buy groceries for your family too expensive.
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You wipe you butt with the American flag and worse yet, you do so right after sodomy.
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Now quit being an ashole.

Come on Husein, admit it.
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On Saturdays you and you boys get together, go down to the Walmart and watch recently unemployed guys count out pennies to pay for diapers and other things and laugh with glee as those funny heterosexual American guys struggle to support families.
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You like to go down to the docks with your boys and watch the containers come in from China undercutting American labor and think about how many American men can not support families since they no longer have the work, cheer, sing and dance to George Michael songs.
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Let’s be honest, Husein, when America fails due to right wing policies, you and your buddies have a ball.

I think I should apologize.
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Not to Husein, but to other gays.
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First, it was cold for me to associate such people with Husein.
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Second, it was out of line for me to associate gays with the music of George Michael. His music gives me nausea.

There is no reason to doubt that he does not believe in what he is saying.

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If he believed even a shred he would not consume such massive amounts himself. Clearly this is a hoax.

“If he believed even a shred he would not consume such massive amounts himself.”
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First, his business involves selling carbon credits to displace carbon production by the planting of trees.
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Second, you only have far right sources of information so it is totally unclear how much non-renewable energy he does or does not use since the American Spectator, Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, O’Rielly, Andrew Brietbart and Fox News have all been caught lying profusely on many occasions and did not rescind the stories proven untrue.
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Third. seventeen years before Gore’s movie the New York Times and High School science classes were teaching about what was, at that time (when I was in high school) a strong hypothesis of global warming.
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So, if this is Gore’s personal fraud, please explain how when he was a Senator from Tennessee he got the Times, The Wall Street Journal and New York Tri-State area teachers all to believe in this.
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If you can’t prove how by 1988 it was common knowledge that there was a hypothesis growing stronger and stronger about global warming your concept of it being a Gore lead fraud is debunked completely as oil company propaganda fed to right wing fools.

In a quick search of NY Time Archives, I found an article about Global warming from 1981, when Dutch Reagan was the new guy in DC.
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http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/22/us/study-finds-warming-trend-that-could-raise-sea-levels.html?scp=4&sq=global+warming&st=nyt
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“House and Senate

At the end of February 1976, U.S. Representative Joe L. Evins unexpectedly announced his retirement from Congress, making the Tennessee’s 4th congressional district seat to which he had succeeded Albert Gore, Sr. in 1953 open. Within hours after Tennessean publisher John Seigenthaler, Sr., called him to tell him the announcement was forthcoming,[43] Gore decided to quit law school and run for the House of Representatives:

Gore’s abrupt decision to run for the open seat surprised even himself; he later said that ‘I didn’t realize myself I had been pulled back so much to it.’ The news came as a ‘bombshell’ to his wife. Tipper Gore held a job in the Tennessean’s photo lab and was working on a master’s degree in psychology, but she joined in her husband’s campaign (with assurance that she could get her job at the Tennessean back if he lost)”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore#Congress_and_first_presidential_run_.281976.E2.80.931993.29
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Gore was in congress for five years by then, but, please explain how he had such an impact on this conspiracy to defraud the public with a, supposedly, fake claim of global warming.
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Either find a reasonable explanation or live with the fact that the oil companies through the right wing media lead you down the primrose path.
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Exxon Mobil and various other oil company cheer when they know people like you fell for their story hook, line and sinker.
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That is, unless you can prove that Al Gore was powerful enough to get lies published in the New York Times when he was only a third term congressman from Tennessee.