Happy Holidays

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  • Paul-no not that one
  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I feel like I am a little boy again opening gifts – to find out that my mom wrapped up a pair of pants and included it with the gifts.
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    It was fun the first time but the second time… not so much.

  • deconstructiva

    Happy holidays, Adam. Hope WH Chorus sings better than…
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    This is better…
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    Any pix / videos of TIME NYC office party?

  • shepherdwong

    Merry Christmas (TWIMC) and Happy Holidays to all the Swampcritters.

  • Ivy_B

    Out all day, so I missed the chance earlier to wish a Merry, Merry to all the Swampers! You all have enlarged my mind with your thoughtful comments and often made me laugh out loud. Many thanks to all.

    Cheers!

  • nflfoghorn

    What everybody before me said :)
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    Hey Terrelle Pryor – a tattoo is forever!

  • nflfoghorn

    Well the Beatles haven’t made any new hits in a while either ;0

  • nflfoghorn

    Like that fruitcake your aunt makes every year!

  • Paul-no not that one

    Every time someone plays the Beatles I tastefully ask if they have gotten back together.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Shep, Ivy, and MLS Merry Christmas.
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    Come on earlier and be entertained by Sacred’s holiday stories. Sure beats work!

  • deconstructiva

    …and speaking of parties, I hope the TIME NYC and DC offices operate much better than this around the holidays…
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  • nflfoghorn

    How do you tastefully bring John and George back?

  • Paul-no not that one

    That’s the question I always get back.
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    I’m afraid I’m exactly the wrong age for the Beatles-they were gone but deified when I started listening to music so I can’t resist teasing their fans.
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    No offense intended, of course.

  • nflfoghorn

    Thx PNNTO & same to you all!

  • sacredh

    Q: How do you get the The Beatles back together?
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    A: Two bullets.

  • mikew67

    Holidays are great, as long as you are not one of the millions disenfranchised and left behind by the Bush crash and Obama non-recovery.

    2008 Democratic primary debate;

    Obama: “For a long time the Republicans were the party of ideas”

    Hillary: “Yeah, the party of BAD ideas”

    Cut taxes big on the wealthy 1981 and 2001 and prosperity Trickles Down? Failed.

    Deregulate banks, health insurers and oil drillers because it’s better for business and they will police themselves? Failed.

    Duh. Abe Lincoln would have said;
    “You can fool some of the people, ALL of the time”… ;^)

    Balkingpoints / www

  • sacredh

    Michelle: Barack, why do all of these guys have sh!t stains in the front of their underwear?

  • sacredh

    Barack: C’mon guys! Sing! One of you lucky fellas gets to spend the night with Susan Boyle.

  • sacredh

    Michelle: Psssst. Barack. Four Bradleys, four Bruces and four Todds. What are the odds?

  • stuartzechman

    Merry Christmas to all of the writers and readers –pro and am– who, together, are Swampland…from @lovely_bride and I.

  • sacredh

    Merry Christmas to you and lovely_bride also.

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    Merry Christmas, Stuart and Mrs. Stuart.
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    Ah, what the heck, Merry Christmas to you too, Sacred, even if you did threaten to throw your Judy Garland albums at me, or was it Toby Keith?

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    To you as well, Shep.

  • apr2563

    Merry Christmas to the Swamplanders.

  • 53_3

    Happy holidays and Merry Christmas to all of you!

  • 53_3

    Centipede…

  • http://listenalready.wordpress.com LAWYERMOMMY1
  • Paul-no not that one

    For those who need to know where Santa is at the moment NORAD has your (and your kid’s) back
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    http://www.noradsanta.org/en/track3d.html

  • lilaland

    Happy holidays and Merry Christmas,

    Also..

    Applause to the most productive congress in my life time. More historic and heavy weight legislation was passed in the last two years than most presidents can pass in 8. Indeed, take a bow, and thank you.
    GW, who had both republican control of all 3 branches of government for 6 years, and “the gang of 14″ who blocked democratic filibuster, could not pass a fraction of what Nancy and Harry got through in 2 years. Love them or hate them, they …were one hell of a team. Amazing leaders, in one hell of a hard town.
    Cheers to them and the 111th Congress!
    There is a reason republicans hated them, because they were so damn good at their jobs. So good it spooked people!

    Almost better than human. lol

    Thank you, brave angels. :)

  • http://listenalready.wordpress.com LAWYERMOMMY1

    I did not finish my thought.

    How sweet. Obama is so kewl, when he chills like this! :)

    http://getslimalready.wordpress.com/

    LM

  • 53_3

    Thanks to those GOPers who helped make it possible!

  • 3xfire3

    According to the latest Gallup Poll 95% of Americans celebrate Christmas, and of these, 82% describe it as a “Strongly Religious” or “Somewhat Religious” holiday for them. 51% Strongly Religious and 31% Somewhat Religious Holiday.
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    I am always amazed that less than 5% of our citizens, who do not wish to celebrate Christmas, try so hard to impose their will on the rest of us. And to be PC many companies and organizations try to satisfy the less than 5% to the detriment of the 95%.
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    Something is wrong with this PC BS.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/145367/Christmas-Strongly-Religious-Half-Celebrate.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Religion%20and%20Social%20Trends%20-%20USA

  • 53_3

    I want to wish the best Christmas possible to the GOPers who helped make the to not only salvage a lame duck session from obscurity, but to put it front and center of one of the two most productive individual Congressional sessions ever!
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    THANK YOU AND MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

  • lilaland

    “Thanks to those GOPers who helped make it possible”

    Absolutely. I’m so thankful to the republican intellectual heavy weights who formed a Team of Rivals with Obama and the dems and put Country First.

    Thank you.

    Many Cheers. to them all.

    They proved to be true patriots and leaders.

    I’m just so proud of my government, both sides.

    Well done!

  • lilaland

    The GOP this session is why my father voted for the Grand Old Party for most his life. This new kind of Sarah Palin republican is like poison to him. He is a very serious man and likes serious leaders. The GOP was once the party of grown ups. My father was a huge HW Bush supporter. He is still though of as one of the best American presidents ever, in my home. These last few weeks were highly reminiscent of the great wisdom and power the GOP can have. I hope they don’t lose it. These last two weeks were heroic.

    Cheers to us all. Cheers to America.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “I am always amazed that less than 5% of our citizens, who do not wish to celebrate Christmas, try so hard to impose their will on the rest of us. And to be PC many companies and organizations try to satisfy the less than 5% to the detriment of the 95%.”
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    “American Jewish population: 2.83 million adults (1.4% of the U.S. adult population)

    Muslims in the United States is 2.5 million as of 2009 (0.8% of the total population)….
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    Estimates of the number of Buddhists in the United States vary between 0.5%[4] and 0.9%,[13] with 0.7% reported by both the CIA[5] and PEW.[6]…
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    According to recent surveys, estimates for Hindus in the US suggest they number nearly 800 thousand people or about 0.4% of the total population
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States#Judaism
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    3X,
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    I found 3.3% who have other religions and, adding in a few people who left other non-Christian religions as well as smaller religions, there is your 5%.
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    Maybe in the outskirts of Toledo where you live some groups unknown to me take away Christmas decorations, but, all I can tell you is that NYC, Boston, New England towns, Upstate New York and all of the Blue states North of North Carolina , St Louis, Mo, Eastern Ohio as well as California have Christmas decorations everywhere including outside of my window.
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    I am far less familiar with the states I have not named and most of those are red states.
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    I have no idea who is taking away your Christmas nor how, but, come to the Blue states and you’ll Santas outside of stores, Christmas trees and wreaths on buildings and Christmas lights everywhere.
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    So, a Merry Christmas to you and, a healthy, prosperous and, hopefully, post free new Year to you, Mr Magoo and all of the Magoo family.
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    I hope somebody gets you some new eyeglasses, the Christmas displays are amazing and is tragic that you can not see them all.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    For those of you who do not need eyeglasses like Mr Magoo, AKA 3xfire3, just look at what a Google image search of Christmas in New York City looks like:
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    http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=christmas+in+new+york&pdl=300&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=751
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    We LOVE Christmas here!
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    Maybe it is a Northwestern Ohio thing of hating Christmas. I don’t know.

  • lilaland

    Cheers to serious minds in serious times.

    The GOP has got to get over it’s fear that serious smart leaders are bad political picks. HW Bush would have won reelection if Reagen had not been mentally sick at the time HW Bush had to work with democrats at lowering the deficit. Had Reagan been able to come out and support HW Bush the way Clinton supported Obama with the tax cut compromise, HW Bush would have won reelection. I’m sure of it. It is tragic that Reagan was ill and could not help HW Bush because if he had it might have helped the GOP from becoming so entrenched with tax cut identity politics. And every serious and honest person in the GOP knows that tax cuts for the rich create few jobs, don’t strongly stimulate the economy and add greatly to deficit spending. They have dug themselves in a deep whole and Reagan is not around to help them out with their base. The answer is not continuing to tell people what they want to hear though. At some point the GOP is going to need to get serious minded again. We as a country need them to be. The old heavy weights are going to need to go out in style. They need to grab the beast by the horns and get their own party for the adults back. Please.

    Seriously. If they did that, they could be true hero’s.

    The Becks and other “entertainers” are hurting the Grand Old Party. They just are. Even if they win them votes, those votes come from people who want the GOP to be nuts.

    Seriously.

    OK, lament over.

  • 3xfire3

    lilaland,
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    “The GOP has got to get over it’s fear that serious smart leaders are bad political picks.”
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    That is without a doubt one of the most ignorant and dumb comment I have ever heard.
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    Merry Christmas. Hopefully Santa will bring you some common sense and possibly a less Ignorant Partisan brain for Christmas. You are really over the top in your distorted beliefs. What planet are you from.

  • sacredh

    Merry Christmas to you also Exiled. I have to fess up, I don’t have albums by Judy Garland or Toby Keith. I hope the coming year is good for you and yours.
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    OT, but this past month has been a really good one for me on scratch offs. I keep track of how much I spend vs. how much I win. I was only up less than $300 for the year before December. I’m now up to over $1000. It’s still the worst year I’ve had since I started playing though.

  • sacredh

    In case I’ve missed anyone, Merry Christmas to all the swamplanders. Thank you for the interesting conversations and information. And the laughs. Most of all, the laughs.

  • lilaland

    3xfire3,
    If you know anything about HW Bush then you know that the GOP were fearful of his serious academic back ground and cool intellectual demeanor. hey spent 1988 trying to make him appear less smart and common. Same with Nixon, and I’m aware he broke the law, but he was without doubt one of the smartest US presidents in history. You have no idea the effort that went into trying to dumb down Nixon and make him more hip. Why? Why not be proud of brilliant men? Either side?
    People like laura ingraham have written books about the big bad educated elite. That does not help our Country to want uneducated leaders. On her show she and Palin rolled HW Bush as a “blue blood”. You know, those yucky educated elites. You think that helps the GOP find historic and worthy leaders?

    You call me ignorant and dumb and you don’t even know the context I speak.

  • lilaland

    And another, thing, my father is was big time GOP supporter for years. How he puts it is, he did not leave the GOP they left him. And the tea-party he thinks is full of retarded people. He voted republican in every election until 2004. Try and call me ignorant and partisan, but I know without doubt I know more about your own party than you do. I could even argue your ideology more accurately and effectively. I love George Will. I don’t agree with him often but I respect his mind.
    How about you? Do you know of him? Do you read him?
    Even more, can you accurately argue democratic ideology without using mindless political terminology that distorts? If you can, then you know why you are a republican. You have to know the other sides view points in a very real and rational way before you know why you disagree. Otherwise you are being manipulated into a believe system.

    So lets play an intellectual game.

    You be a democrat

    Tell me why tax cuts for the rich is not a good idea.

    I’ll contour as a republican why they are.

    Lets text how much you know.

    game on. :)

  • sacredh

    Twas the night before Christmas
    and all through the house (and senate)
    not a creature was stirring
    not even a louse (they all went home).
    And during the night there arose such a clatter
    I turned on the security camera
    to see what was the matter.
    And what to my wonderous eyes should appear?
    A new limo whose driver looked queer.
    John, I TOLD you she’s not here.
    Sarah’s still home counting money.
    Go home. It’s Christmas time you grumpy old b@stard.
    With finger in nose and a suspicious red rash
    He grabbed all the stockings
    filled with Cindy’s beer cash.
    With a scarlet red face he was a pathetic sad sight.
    He slapped his poor driver
    and disappeared in the night.

  • sacredh

    I’m on midnights. I just woke up a little while ago and I’m on my 1st cup of coffe. I hope nobody was expecting T.S. Elliot’s “The Wastelands”.

  • Paul-no not that one

    What? Nobody? It’s pretty cool, he was in Cairo a few minutes ago!

  • sacredh

    Incoming!

  • sacredh

    I hope he stops at my house last. I’ll leave out a tall frosty White Russian and some cookies topped with viagra sprinkles.
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    Mrs. Claus, if Santa’s erection lasts for more than four hours, make the best of it. After all, he only comes once a year. Cleanup in aisle 5.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Casualty count. scared?
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    Now he’s in Nambia!

  • sacredh

    Please Santa, honestly, I tried to miss your reindeer but they flew right in front of me! It was either hit them or go over the hill. Donner didn’t suffer. His head came almost all the way off. If it makes you feel any better, Mrs. Sacred is driving a new Avenger now (curious how the car’s name is so appropriate). I don’t want to press my luck, but if any of your other reindeer have been giving you trouble, I could use a new truck. Just a thought.
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    Your friend, sacredh

  • stuartzechman

    This is terrible!
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    I was expecting t s elliot’s “The Wastela…” oh wait

  • sacredh

    Merry Christmas SZ. I’m just headed out to go pick up my mom for a visit. I can’t wait to see her smiling face when I give her her present. I hope she has batteries at home.

  • Paul-no not that one

    If you’re still around SZ Merry Christmas to you and LB.

  • sasquatch08

    Merry Christmas everyone!

  • sacredh

    He knows when you are sleeping
    He knows when you’re awake
    He also knows what you look like naked because he got a job as an airport screener during the off season.

  • 3xfire3

    “He also knows what you look like naked because he got a job as an airport screener during the off season.”
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    And naked is not a very pretty site for most of us. We all look better when the lights are turned down dim and we had a few drinks.
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    Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    “O little town of Bethlehem
    How still we see thee lie
    Above thy deep and dreamless sleep
    The silent stars go by
    Yet in thy dark streets shineth
    The everlasting Light
    The hopes and fears of all the years
    Are met in thee tonight”

    Merry Christmas, everyone.

  • 3xfire3

    Patrick,
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    As usual, you show your ignorance.
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    True ignorance is answering before you actually understand the question. It is a sign of immaturity.
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    If you don’t understand the question you will always have the wrong answer.

  • 3xfire3

    lilaland,
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    ‘If you know anything about HW Bush then you know that the GOP were fearful of his serious academic back ground and cool intellectual demeanor. hey spent 1988 trying to make him appear less smart and common. Same with Nixon, and I’m aware he broke the law, but he was without doubt one of the smartest US presidents in history.”
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    Where do you come up with this kind of garbage? That’s all it is. You are either dreaming it up on your own or using some Liberal rag as a source or stating someones opinion or perception. There are no real facts involved in your ridicules comments.
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    For something to be True/Fact it must meet the following criteria.
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    1. It must be a provable Truth. Not opinion or perception.
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    2. It must be the whole truth. Not a comment or video clip taken out of context or a partial truth.
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    3. And nothing but the Truth. No BS trying to change the meaning of the truth.
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    Conservatives are not against Education. They are against “Elitism” which is a trait most common in Liberal/Progressives.
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    Education without Real World experience is Ignorance.
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    True Wisdom is a combination of Education and Experience.
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    When you gain more personal experience and maturity you will better understand Reality.

  • sacredh

    Very nice. Did you write that yourself? I’ve been working on one I’m tentatively calling “White Christmas”.
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    Merry Christmas.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “….who do not wish to celebrate Christmas, try so hard to impose their will on the rest of us. And to be PC many companies and organizations try to satisfy the less than 5% to the detriment of the 95%.”
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    “If you don’t understand the question you will always have the wrong answer.”
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    How much clearer could your question be?
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    Also, I never stated that I answered the question, but, I can say that over my lifetime, outside of, maybe, rural Northwestern Ohio, if there is anybody trying to take away Christmas, they have had 0% success.
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    For decades retailers advertised “Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah.”
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    To which they got a response, “excuse me, sir, what’s a chan ooh Kah? All I knows is that I see signs for a Chan ooh kah everywhere. Where are they are how much do they cost.”
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    With that as well as Bodhi Day for Buddhists, Pancha Ganapati:for Hindus, retailers in order to sell to everybody began to shorten things down in the mid 1980s (I remember the transition was in the 1980s from TV shows and stores saying “Merry Christmas”) to “Happy Holidays”.
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    About ten years after the transition by retailers, a nut named Bill O’Reilly started saying that there was a “War on Christmas”.
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    A war?
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    Damn, how many elves were killed in this?
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    I heard elf reconnaissance ran circles around the KGB, the CIA, British MI-6 and even the Israeli Mossad. I mean, rumor is, they see you when you’re sleeping, they know when you’re awake, they know if you’ve been bad or good, so this is an intelligence force hard to get a jump on.
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    Whoever you and Bill O’Reilly think have been at war against Christmas, they not only lost miserably, they had no impact on anything except O’Reilly’s ratings

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “That is without a doubt one of the most ignorant and dumb comment I have ever heard.”
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    On what basis do you say this?
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    Don’t tell me, you know because you made the who’s who of rural Northwestern Ohio list four years in a row. and if you’ve made that list, explanations are beneath your dignity.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Actually, 3X, the number of attacks against “elites’ meaning educated but specifically educated but not wealthy people has been a mantra of the right wing.
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    “Conservatives are not against Education. They are against “Elitism” which is a trait most common in Liberal/Progressives.”
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    Well let’s see what “elitist” means:
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    “1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
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    a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
    b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.”
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    Okay, so, Democrats support special tax cuts for people with PhDs?
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    No.
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    Democrats demand that people with education or anything else get special treatment?
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    No, but when a Democrat graduates from a great college or graduate school and has shown their knowledge, they are far more likely to win office and to tout their achievements than Republicans such as Bill Clinton former law professor, Barack Obama, former law professor, Hillary Clinton, former Law Professor, Paul Krugman, Nobel prize winner, Robert Reich Economics professor, John Kerry, Yale university, war hero and attorney this is the closest thing that Democrats have to showing additional respect to a group.
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    By contrast, being Republican is all about giving more and more privileges to the wealthiest and the most powerful corporations.
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    ““Conservatives are not against Education. They are against The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources. which is a trait most common in Liberal/Progressives.”
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    No it isn’t.
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    You’re going to have to find another word since elitism is, actually, the definition of 21st century Republican/Tea Party politics.
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    Like lilaland, I think the word should be “education”, too.

  • http://grapemusing.blogspot.com/ grape_crush

    Did you write that yourself?
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    You’re soooo lucky Santa has a sense of humor, sacredh. :)
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    And a Merry Christmas to you.

  • 3xfire3

    lilaland,
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    My young friend, let me give you some advice that will help you greatly in life.
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    There are two sides to every story and truth is almost always somewhere in between. If you are wise enough to understand and accept that truism you will be successful in life. If you cannot accept it than you are destine to have many failures in your life.
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    Hopefully you are wise. If you are not it would be a waste of my time to debate you on anything. At the age of 72, I choose not to waste my time.

  • 53_3

    3xfire3:
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    In re your “definition of truth”:
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    In the sciences, there are a few things that are completely taboo, and including them in papers guarantees the author they will find their way into the trash bin:
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    One is a circular argument. Another is tautology.
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    Look those two words up, 3xfire3.
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    Merry Christmas!

  • 53_3

    I’m guessing that the ex-mitochondria in many of 3xfire3′s ex-brain-cells failed to quash significant free-radical leakage in the respiratory chain, particularly complex I.
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    Hence, his ex-brain-cells have, after the ex-mitochondria signaled the ex-nucleus of their failure, triggering caspase enzyme cascades, committed apoptosis!

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “There are two sides to every story and truth is almost always somewhere in between.”
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    So, the president is an Australian?
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    The birthers say he was born in Kenya.
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    His birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii.
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    If the truth of the location of his birth is between Kenya and Hawaii, but, obviously, an English speaking country (as Kenya and the US are), he must be Australian.
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    3X,
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    Some people bring totally false information into political debates such as:
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    Death panels. (False)
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    Stimulating the economy through public works projects has not succeeded in the past. (False, it has been wildly successful and practiced worldwide for 80 years).
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    The President is a Marxist or a socialist bent on shutting down businesses (false, by both word and action the president has attempted to assist the private sector in every way he believes is best – which may not be the same thing everybody believes is best, but the motive being very obvious).
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    Oil company financed scientists claiming that climate change is “a political issue” or “debatable” (False, it is backed by hard science for over 40 years).
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    Evangelical Christians claiming that Evolution is a political issue or up for debate. (it is backed by almost 150 years of hard science).
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    Bush claiming Husein had Weapons of Mass Destruction.
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    Birthers claiming the president was born abroad.
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    Fox claiming that Ann Coulter was born a broad, not an ugly man who had a bad sex change operation (sorry, I had to say that – it’s not like Coulter is known for her kindness like when she claimed that 9/11 widows were pleased to see their husbands die).

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor
  • stuartzechman

    Thank you so much from both of us, PNNTO.

  • stuartzechman

    Let us know…

  • 3xfire3

    Patrick,
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    You missed the words “almost always”.
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    “There are two sides to every story and truth is “almost always” somewhere in between. If you are wise enough to understand and accept that truism you will be successful in life. If you cannot accept it than you are destine to have many failures in your life.
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    Hopefully you are wise. If you are not it would be a waste of my time to debate you on anything. At the age of 72, I choose not to waste my time.”
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    Patrick since you have proven that you are not wise it’s a waste of time to debate you.
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    I have recently completed read Glenn Beck’s book “Arguing with Idiots”. I could see you on nearly every page.
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    I have made a New Year’s resolution not to bother to reply to ignorant people in 2011. Since you are unwise and ignorant you are the first one on my resolution list.

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  • 53_3

    Even the escalator has a baroque look to it…
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    Merry Christmas Patrick!!

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    3X,
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    As I said before, with one exception everybody in my family on either side before 1950 is a conservative Republican while, with no exceptions, everybody in my family born after 1950 are liberal Democrats.
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    Even my most outspoken conservative relative (who has a sense of humor about it – which he must with liberal children) finds Glenn Beck an unreliable source of information.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Rising up from the Swamp on a golden colored escalator to see the wreaths on the windows facing the Celtic double spires of the Cathedral.
    .
    Some pictures are just dying for anybody with a $100 camera to take, and that was one of them.

  • 53_3
  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    FWIW: I grew up within a few miles of Ann Coulter. She is about ten years older than I am. Out high school football teams were rivals and our towns were remarkably similar. So, unless you want to argue that Ann Couler grew up in a liberal bubble, your concept that I am unfamiliar with conservatives is totally ridiculous.
    .
    Coulter is far cruder, ruder and venomous than the conservatives I knew and, generally speaking, even further to the right of my completely Republican dominated home town, but, I do know a great deal about conservatives.
    .
    You, by contrast, are so surrounded by right wingers that you are jolted and shocked that anybody disagrees with your highly conservative opinions.
    .
    Travel more.
    .
    It’s a big and wonderful world out there, 3X and your neck of the woods is atypically conservative in the US which is an atypically conservative country by the standard of 21st century democracies.

  • sacredh

    patrick, you have a beautiful home. Fess up, you make WAY more than you let on. I’ve been trying to find some pictures I can post that don’t violate my parole conditions.

  • sacredh

    We found some batteries in the dining room china drawer. I bought her a piece that has a dancing couple that plays the Blue Danube waltz. They’re covered by a glass dome. They twirl around. Slowly enough that they don’t look like they’re fired up on coke. She liked it. I also bought her a collection of country #1 hits from the 50′s, 60′s and 70′s. There’s about 100 songs on it. Counting flowers on the wall. That doesn’t bother me at all. Playing solitaire till dawn with a deck of 51.

  • sacredh

    All they listened to in our house when I was growing up was country music. I started listening to the Beatles as soon as they hit the radio. She didn’t like them at all until 1965 and then Rubber Soul came out. She loves that album.

  • 3xfire3

    Patrick,
    .
    “Don’t tell me, you know because you made the who’s who of rural Northwestern Ohio list four years in a row. and if you’ve made that list, explanations are beneath your dignity.”
    .
    How did you know? You are getting smarter as you grow older day by day.
    .
    I actually made “Who’s Who in American Universities and Colleges” in 1965.
    .
    It was 1997 when I was selected as “Entrepreneur Of The Year” By Ernst & Young, NASDAQ, USA/Today and The Kauffman Foundation.
    .
    Did I tell you that last year I was part of a Delegation from a large American University that went to China and visited several major Chinese University and their new City of Technology? Our Delegation was lead by the President of the large American University. He has asked me if I would be willing to give a talk at the University on Entrepreneurship.
    .
    Did you have any other questions about other awards I have received?

  • 3xfire3

    Patrick,
    .
    “Don’t tell me, you know because you made the who’s who of rural Northwestern Ohio list four years in a row. and if you’ve made that list, explanations are beneath your dignity.”
    .
    How did you know? You are getting smarter as you grow older day by day.
    .
    I actually made “Who’s Who in American Universities and Colleges” in 1965.
    .
    It was 1997 when I was selected as “Entrepreneur Of The Year” By Ernst & Young, NASDAQ, USA/Today and The Kauffman Foundation.
    .
    Did I tell you that last year I was part of a Delegation from a large American University that went to China and visited several major Chinese University and their new City of Technology? Our Delegation was lead by the President of the large American University. He has asked me if I would be willing to give a talk at the University on Entrepreneurship.
    .
    Did you have any other questions about other awards I have received?

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “It was 1997 when I was selected as “Entrepreneur Of The Year” By Ernst & Young, NASDAQ, USA/Today and The Kauffman Foundation.
    .
    Did I tell you that last year I was part of a Delegation from a large American University that went to China and visited several major Chinese University and their new City of Technology.”
    .
    You did tell us this about five times now.
    .
    The part about 1965 is news, but, one might easily argue even more irreverent.
    .
    Are you Dave the rib king?
    .
    If not, you are very hard to find online.
    .
    From the many times you brought this up is how I found out that you were – since you told us so – near Toledo.
    .
    I’m not sure if we should kneel down and bow our heads to the rib king.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    http://www.famousdaveanderson.com/about-dave/awards.php
    .
    Winner of entrepreneur of the year in 1997 from Ernst and Young.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “patrick, you have a beautiful home.”
    .
    I didn’t want to brag that I own Rockefeller center now.
    .
    I figured if you guys knew then you might think that I turned Republican.
    . :D

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    http://www.famousdaveanderson.com/about-dave/awards.php
    .
    “Did you have any other questions about other awards I have received?”
    .
    From what I can tell, this is your list from your website:
    .
    “Famous Dave Anderson Awards & Honors (Download a PDF version)
    1983 – Anderson was named to a National Task Force on Reservation Gaming by the Bureau of Indian Affairs in Washington, D.C.

    1983 – Anderson was appointed to The Council on Minority Business Development for the State of Wisconsin by Governor Earl.

    1984 – Anderson was appointed to The Wisconsin Council of Tourism by Governor Earl.

    1985 – Anderson was named a Bush Leadership Fellow by the Bush Foundation, St. Paul, Minnesota, recognizing him for a lifetime of outstanding achievement.

    June 1997 – Ernst & Young, sponsored by NASDAQ and USA Today, recognized Dave Anderson as Minnesota and Dakota’s Emerging Entrepreneur of the Year. The Entrepreneur of the Year program honors and recognizes entrepreneurs who have demonstrated excellence and extraordinary success through innovation, financial performance, and personal commitment to their business and community

    March 1998 – Anderson named Restaurateur of the Year by Mpls. St. Paul Magazine.

    December 1999 – “Famous Dave’s Backroads & Sidestreets” wins the National Barbecue Associations “Award of Excellence” for being the “Best New Barbecue/Grill Cookbook!”

    2001 – Nominee for the Horatio Alger Association of Distinguished Americans Award.

    January 10, 2002 – Honored as an Olympic Torch carrier for the 2002 Winter Olympics held at Salt Lake City, Utah.

    February 2, 2002- Receives the Odyssey Award by Big Brothers Big Sisters for significant contributions to his profession and the community either as mentors or in service to youth.

    July 3, 2002­ – President Bush appoints Dave to the President’s Board of Advisors on Tribal Colleges and Universities.

    May 2003 – Dave receives Nightingale-Conant coveted “Acres of Diamonds” Award in recognition of his personal commitment for helping others find their own “Acres of Diamonds!”

    December 2003 – President Bush appoints Dave ninth Assistant Secretary for the US Department of the Interior for Indian Affairs and confirmed by a full US Senate vote. Dave is responsible for a $2 billion dollar budget and over 10,000 employees.

    May 2004 – Northland College presents Dave an Honorary Doctorate Degree for his commitment to public service.

    April 30, 2005 – The Boys and Girls Clubs of America appoints Dave to the Board of Governors.

    May 12, 2005 – Northland College appoints Dave to the Board of Trustees

    December 2006 – Minnesota Entrepreneurs’ Entrepreneur of the Year Award

    January 2007 – Northwoods University Outstanding Business Leader Award

    March 2008 – Received the Urban Financial Services Coalition’s Living Legend Award

    Famous Dave’s of America Awards & Honors
    First Place Awards, People’s Choice, Blue Ribbons, Best of The Best, Best of Class… You Name We’ve Won It! …NO other restaurant in history has won more best of class awards than Famous Dave’s. Famous Dave’s has been recognized as one of America’s “Hottest Concepts” by Nation’s Restaurant News.

    Over 400 Best of Class Awards and counting… Everything from Best Ribs, Best BBQ Sauce, Best New Restaurant, Best Menu, Best Dining Experience, Best Family Restaurant, Best Website Design, People’s Choice Awards…etc, etc, etc. You know what they say…”It ain’t braggin’ if it’s the truth!”

    “Making it Famous!” is a way of life at Famous Dave’s. Excellence and striving to be Best of Class is a daily discipline at Famous Dave’s… The Best Ribs in America!”
    .
    Sounds tasty, but not so academic.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    3X,
    .
    If you aren’t Dave Anderson, please either inform us of who you are or stop claiming these credentials.

  • sacredh

    “I figured if you guys knew then you might think that I turned Republican.”
    .
    Heretic.

  • 53_3
  • 3xfire3

    Nope. Not even close.
    .
    Not claims. Just facts.
    .
    Remember I don’t lie. I’m not a Liberal.

  • 3xfire3

    Patrick,
    .
    Only a few more days and than my New Years Resolutions will start. Better get your questions in now.

  • 53_3

    Patrick:
    .
    Eventually, this can be resolved. Think venn…

  • lilaland

    3xfire3, you don’t want to play an intellectual game? Well, I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.

    As for George H. W. Bush, I strongly suggest you read a well respected biography about is presidential years. You will find in almost all biographies the issue of him being considered too “preppy”, too Ivy league, too aloof, too elite for his party. He was too smart and too serious. Hid PR team went to great lengths to make him appear more “common man”. That is not very unusual in its self. Both left and right over the years have struggled with image. A president people can “relate” with. However, in the last 10 years the republicans have hurt themselves with a weird almost total rejection of the idea that “high brow” intellectualism is “bad”. Sarah Palin is a perfect example of how that over embrace of the average Joe has hurt their party.
    Now listen, if you want to refuse to emotionally detach and look at what I’m saying in a rational way, then that is good for democrats. The over embrace to average Joe people will get you very real average 95 IQ leaders that the middle will have a very hard time voting for. For all the dumb jokes about GW, he was a Yale graduate with a GPA higher than John Kerry’s.
    Those were the days, the days when c- Yale Grades were called Dumb.
    Tell me this, is the GOP really going to try and run Palin? Is the GOP going to let people like Palin to roll HW Bush because he was not “common” like her?
    Does the GOP really want to go down that road?
    Really? Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave.

    The GOP needs to pick some leaders in the cast of Senator Dick Lugar. That is how they will regain their torch and become true leaders and grown ups again.

    However, this might just be pearls before swine. Who knows.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Remember I don’t lie. I’m not a Liberal.”
    .
    Death panels.
    .
    WMD.
    .
    The presidents birthplace.
    .
    Thomas Jefferson was an evangelical Christian.
    .
    Iran Contra.
    .
    Watergate.
    .
    Vs
    .
    “I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”
    .
    Correction “I don’t lie about sex. I’m not a Liberal. I am a conservative, so, I lie about everything except for sex.”
    .
    You did miss the point, 3X.
    .
    It’s your responsibility to either let us know that your work and life experiences very directly relate to Heath Care Reform, foreign policy, Macroeconomic policy, climatology, constitutional law and tax policy so that we may Google your statements made when advising presidents or whomever to find out WTF you are talking about.
    .
    If not, the presumption is that you are person suffering from delusions who thinks that he did some great things in his life but didn’t do anything at all.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Winners of the Earnst and Young 1997 Entrepreneur of the year award”
    .
    1997
    Alan T. Rudy, Express-Med, Inc.
    1997
    Charles T. Walsh, Walsh Enterprise Solutions
    1997
    Donald B. Shackelford, State Savings Bank
    1997
    Doug Cobb, Chrysalis Ventures
    1997
    George R. Oberer, Oberer Development
    1997
    Jack L. Cobb, Henny Penny Corp.
    1997
    Jennifer Glaser, Silver Creek High School
    1997
    John C. Court, Multi-Color Corporation
    1997
    John R. Deyo, Mid Ohio Tempering
    1997
    Kent Taylor, Texas Roadhouse
    1997
    Lance Fancher, ShawnTech Communications
    1997
    Lance Francher, Shawn Tech Communications
    1997
    Lawrence Harmon, Harmon Family of Dealers
    1997
    Lee Kirkwood, United Mail
    1997
    Lior Yaron, L.S.Y. International
    1997
    Merwin Ray, Steel Technologies
    1997
    Miami Venture Fund, Miami Valley Venture Fund
    1997
    Nancy J. Kramer, Resource Marketing, Inc.
    1997
    Ramesh Mehan, Innovative Technologies Corp.
    1997
    Robert Appenzeller, Machine Products Corp.
    1997
    Robert Betagole, Mike Albert Leasing Inc
    1997
    Robert J. Coughlin, Paycor, Inc.
    1997
    Ross O. Youngs, Univenture, Inc.
    1997
    R. Andrew Johnson, The Diamond Cellar
    1997
    Thomas M. O’Gara, The O’Gara Company
    1997
    Wayne Carlisle, Carlisle Construction Co., Inc
    1997
    Wilfred T. O’Gara, The O’Gara Company
    1997
    Zoe Eve Soter, RTZ Manufacturing Co.
    .
    I could not find a list of people who worked the University of Dayton nor Wright State University in the Dayton area.
    .
    You are a man who’s ancestors were Swiss.
    .
    Then, perhaps you are:
    .
    Robert C Appenzeller

    5660 Webster St
    Dayton, OH 45414-3519

    (937) 890-6600
    .
    Is this what you are eager for us all to find, that you are a man named Bob in Ohio?

  • Paul-no not that one

    Are you really posting people’s addresses and phone numbers, Patrick?
    .
    Baited or not I think that’s out of bounds.

  • 53_3

    Is there an intersect between set A and B, patrick?

  • 53_3

    Another thing to consider is that the University of Washington has strong ties to Chinese educational and entrepreneurial institutions.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Baited or not I think that’s out of bounds.”
    .
    Mine is available and, so far nobody has called from Swampland.
    .
    I would imagine that the only people who would call are people who agree with you, are in your neighborhood (or part of the country) and believe they have been invited to speak with you.
    .
    I am close to 600 miles away, do not agree with a man I believe is named Bob and by no means have been invited.
    .
    I’ve posted both my work address and my linked in profile before. Look back far enough and you could call me.
    .
    On the other hand, uninvited, I do not know what you would want to say that would not qualify as harassment.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    53,
    .
    He states that he is from Ohio and of Swiss ancestry winning the Ernst and Young award in Ohio.
    .
    Also, searching “Chinese City of technology” you get Nanjing.
    .
    From Nanjing University, you get the University of Dayton and Wright State.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Why would I waste this much time on detective work on 3X today?
    .
    This is what my neighborhood looked like this morning:
    .
    http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa351/PatrickSartor/Pictures%20of%20Queens%20NY/117.jpg
    .
    That was five hours ago with the snow continuing to fall. No visits to relatives, maybe a short drive to Wendy’s instead of a neighborhood place if I feel adventurous.

  • sacredh

    We had between an inch and an inch and a half yesterday. We got a dusting today. So far we’ve had around 6 inches altogether since cold weather hit. We’re supposed to finally break the freezing mark by midweek. Compared to last year we’ve been lucky. Of course January and February are still looming. Last February we broke the all-time record for this area with over 4 feet of snow.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Pikers-
    .
    “With exactly a week left in 2010, Minnesota set a snow record between Thursday night and Friday morning.
    .
    About 4.6 inches of snow fell at the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport late Thursday night and Friday morning, giving Minnesota 33.4 inches for the month of December. It’s the most snow we’ve received in December in 41 years.
    .
    The previous all-time record for December, set in 1969, was 33.2 inches. That means a new record has been set, and there are still seven days to go.
    .
    If predictions hold true, the record will be shattered by this time next week. More snow could arrive by Wednesday next week, and KARE-11 Meteorologist Sven Sundgaard is predicting that another major storm could hit the metro on New Year’s Eve.”
    .
    When people ask “Paul, why do you drink?” You now know the answer. Ugh.

  • sacredh

    “Pikers-”
    .
    YES!

  • Paul-no not that one

    Hey I’m trying to bring it back.

  • sacredh

    There’s nothing like a good old generic insult that is open to interpretation. You have my sympathy (as well as SZ and patrick) for all the lousy weather and snowfall. The NWS had predicted that my area would be warmer and wetter than normal this winter. So far it’s been exactly the opposite. We’ve been colder and dryer. The flu has hit our area hard too. I’ve lost 5 pounds over the holiday season. 1/3 of the guys where I work have had the flu and almost all of us had a flu shot (courtesy of Uncle Sam) last month. They even came to work and gave them to us.

  • Paul-no not that one

    More a tease than an insult.
    .
    Your commenting while ill was hard to even read. My cuter half has been sick once in the 10 years we have been together and I get a cold every three years (one last January so I am in the clear) so I really feel for you.
    .
    Losing five pounds from being sick isn’t good.
    .
    It sounds like you took nourishment over Christmas so get that weight back. Some (read:MIL) might call it “fighting weight”.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “You have my sympathy (as well as SZ and patrick)”
    .
    Commuter trains like the Long Island Railroad do not stop, buses do not stop and subways rarely even get slowed down by snow and, even with that, I can (and SZ probably more so) get almost everything I need within a three minute walk.
    .
    If I didn’t live in a city and had to deal with the storms I would have to marry the first woman who would take me just to deal with being snowed in.
    .
    It’s my relatives who gathered throughout the country and Canada in NYC burbs I feel a little bad about. They won’t be completely plowed out until, I guess, late Tuesday/ early Wednesday.

  • sacredh

    I’m slim to begin with. I’ve got a sky high metabolism and have trouble keeping weight on even in the best of times. I’m 6’3″ and now weigh 180. It doesn’t matter what I eat or how much, I still stay the same. I weigh less than I did 25 years ago. I think one of my problems is that I love being outdoors. I don’t care what the weather is, I like being outside. I am feeling much better. It’s just a cold now. I do think my MIL is the reason I catch so many things. The average age of the people in her church is dead and she’s always coming down with something she caught at services. She gets to lay around a nice warm house until she feels better and I have to work outside. She doesn’t think twice about spreading her germs by coughing on the phone and not disinfecting it. It’s too close to work so she doesn’t do it.

  • sacredh

    “If I didn’t live in a city and had to deal with the storms I would have to marry the first woman who would take me just to deal with being snowed in.”
    .
    Even that isn’t always the case. My wife has cut me off since I first got sick well over two weeks ago because she doesn’t want to catch anything. This is the longest I’ve gone without since I was 12.
    .

  • Paul-no not that one

    “She doesn’t think twice about spreading her germs by coughing on the phone and not disinfecting it.”
    .
    Says the man who said he took the phone out of her hand, licked the mouth piece, and gave it back to her? Ha.
    .
    I envy you your metabolism, I’m 5 10 167 on FAT Tuesday this year I was 228.

  • sacredh

    “I envy you your metabolism”
    .
    My wife does too. Like most women, she’s always trying to lose 5-10 pounds. I think she looks great just as she is. She made several pies for dessert the other day and I waited until eveyone had got their piece and then ate the other half of the pie for dessert. She just glared at me.
    .
    This is really OT, but 30 years ago I was dating both my current wife and my ex-wife. They’re cousins. I asked the cousin to marry me because my current wife was so good-looking back then that I didn’t think there was any way she would say yes if I asked her. Years later she told me she would have. But when I took my ex to the courthouse to fill out the paperwork she wrote her name on the papers and that I was the first time I realized that I didn’t even know her last name.

  • 3xfire3

    lilaland,
    .
    You have not responded to my replies to you of 25.1 and 26.1.
    .
    After you have given me a rational reply to these posts will see if it’s productive to debate you on anything.

  • 3xfire3

    Patrick,
    .
    I feel very sorry for you that your life has so little meaning that you have nothing better to do than try to identify those people who post on Swampland and don’t agree with your Liberal politics.
    .
    You spend a large portion of your life posting to this site. Go out and find something productive to do. A life should not be wasted.
    .
    As of January 1 your posts to me will truly be part of a wasted life for I will no longer respond to you.

  • 3xfire3

    Patrick,
    .
    You are truly crazy. No I am not Robert C Appenzeller. My ancestry is French Swiss not German Swiss.
    .
    Continue to waste your time and life. It’s is a real shame you don’t have a real life to live.
    .
    My family was home for the weekend to celebrate Christmas and to attend Mass together. All four of my children and their wives and husbands and eleven grandchildren were here. That’s one more than last year. We have a new grandson born just three weeks ago.

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