Obama’s Not-So-Lame Record

Just over a year ago, Saturday Night Live lampooned President Obama for his record, or lack thereof. “There are those on the right that are angry, they think that I’m turning this great country into something that resembles the Soviet Union, or Nazi Germany,” said actor Fred Armisen, portraying the President. “But, that’s just not the case. Because when you look at my record it’s very clear what I’ve done so far. And that is nothing. Nada.” Armisen rattled off a checklist of Obama’s unfulfilled pledges: “close Guantanamo Bay, no… Out of Iraq, nope… Improve Afghanistan, I’m pretty sure it’s worse… Health Care Reform, Hell No.”

How a year has changed things. The headlines this week read, “Obama Bested GOP in Extraordinary Lame Duck Session” (Washington Post), “No Congress Since 1960s Makes Most Laws for Americans as 111th” (Bloomberg), “With Major Bills Passed, [Senate Majority Leader Harry] Reid Takes a Victory Lap (New York Times). As Obama put it himself at his own victorious press conference Wednesday afternoon, “I think it’s fair to say that this has been the most productive post-election period we’ve had in decades, and it comes on the heels of the most productive two years that we’ve had in generations.”

One could argue that it was because of Congress’s largely partisan productivity the past two years — passing the stimulus, health care reform and financial reregulation — that Democrats got a “shellacking,” as Obama puts it, in November, losing 63 seats in the House and six Senate seats. But what is striking is how Democrats managed to shift the momentum coming out of those losses. No one expected Congress’s lame duck session to be particularly productive. There were a few must pass items with pressing expiration dates, such as the Bush tax cuts and money to keep the government running next year. But instead of folding, Obama dug up his post-partisan mantle — sounding more like the man who first captured the public’s imagination in 2004 with the phrase “There’s not a liberal America and a conservative America – there’s the United States of America” than he has in, well, years — and reached out to Republicans. Change, he discovered, is perhaps more prolific — or at least easier — when it’s less one-sided. “If there’s any lesson to draw from these past few weeks, it’s that we are not doomed to endless gridlock,” Obama said. “We’ve shown, in the wake of the November elections, that we have the capacity not only to make progress, but to make progress together.”

First, Obama made a deal with Senate Republicans to renew all of President Bush’s tax cuts, including those for the wealthiest Americans, for two years, adding in an alternative minimum tax fix, unemployment insurance for millions of job seekers, and an estate tax set at 45% for estates worth $3.5 million or more. The final piece outraged progressives, though the tax package finally squeaked through the House last week. Obama and the Democrats also got through ratification of the new START Treaty, a repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, a $4.2 billion bill to provide health care for 9/11 first responders, a sweeping food safety bill, 19 federal judges confirmed to the bench and money to fund the federal government through March.

Obama seems to have liked it so much, bipartisanship is his new mantra. In his 34-minute press conference on Wednesday he used the words “common ground” three times, the word “bipartisan” twice, the phrase “other side of the aisle” twice, “came together” three times and “across party lines” twice. Voters seem to agree: 56% of voters approved of Obama’s handling of the lame duck session, compared to 42% for congressional Republicans, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll released Wednesday. An eye-popping 59% said Obama is doing enough to cooperate with Republicans a reversal from February where more than half of respondents said he hadn’t done enough.

Still, Obama himself acknowledged that much remains to be done from closing the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, to immigration reform and climate change, which Obama tactfully referred to as “clean energy” in his press conference, all but acceding that passing a global warming bill with a Republican-controlled House would be next to impossible. Obama said he expected he would have a “robust debate” with Republicans early next year on “how do we cut spending that we don’t need while making investments that we do need — investments in education, research and development, innovation, and the things that are essential to grow our economy over the long run, create jobs.”

Will this momentum last? As Obama tacks back to the center, he finds himself on lonely ground. In the past three elections, virtually all of the moderates from both sides of the aisle have been wiped out and the Tea Party, already up in arms at GOP’s submission during the lame duck, will surely make negotiations more challenging when their representatives are seated in January. “This has been a capitulation in two weeks of dramatic proportions of policies that wouldn’t have passed in the new Congress,” Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, lamented on Fox News Radio last Friday. But whether campaigning or in the lame duck, Obama has proven his capacity to surprise when expectations are lowest.

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  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I completely disagree with your conclusion that it was bipartisanship lead by the president that saved the day.

    Here’s what I saw: Democrats have their feet to the fire with almost no time left to pass the legislation they promised two years ago and went into overdrive and, knowing that they will still be in the minority in the Senate and not expecting much to do over the next two years of gridlock among sworn enemies, Republicans in the Senate gave up on blocking everything so that they could be home for Christmas.

    The Republican dominated house hasn’t even started yet.

    How can anybody pat anybody on the back for good bipartisan work between a Republican dominated house with a Democratic dominated Senate and Democratic president before the Republican majority starts?

    I still suspect that once the Republican majority takes the house, promising to be good Tea Partiers and, therefore, being against everything George Washington didn’t do during his first administration will block everything the Senate and the president support and, instead, pass legislation the Senate would not want to pass and the President would never consider signing.

    We’ll see.

    But this has been one hell of a lame duck session.

    If only Democrats can be like this all year round.

  • deconstructiva

    If only Democrats can be like this all year round.
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    Especially the ones in the Senate, patrick, sigh. House members did a better job passing many bills only to have them vanish in the Senate black hole. It figures the only time Reid grew a pair was when Angle ran against him …then he fought back. Where was his inner boxer when Mitch “Dr. No” McConnell + friends shut down the Senate all year?
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    But thanks for your work here, Jay. I appreciate it.

  • liberalmeltdown

    Government for and by the people? Government for and especially for the government, despite the people.
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    Democrats will be out of power soon, but not soon enough. Expect a landslide to vote out the symbol of everything wrong with government the Democrat President.

  • pintortwo

    Really?
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    Obama seems to have liked it so much, bipartisanship is his new mantra.
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    Any idea where this new-found ability to deal with the republicans came from? He’s on a role! -this new mantra is effective, it makes lots of laws.
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    The republicans appear more ready to deal when they get everything they want. They’re even willing to tolerate some add-ins for us. As long as priority one is covered. Although, I shouldn’t single out the Rs.. the Ds are just as bad.
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    I agree with Mr. Armisen. How’s that track record with the issues that were important to candidate Obama; and those back in ’09 when this was recorded and he still seemed the new guy?
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    when you look at my record it’s very clear what I’ve done so far. And that is nothing. Nada.” … “close Guantanamo Bay, no… Out of Iraq, nope… Improve Afghanistan, I’m pretty sure it’s worse… Health Care Reform, Hell No.”
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    Hardly have to change a thing today; maybe add a few.

  • Cliff

    When you start off deconstructing an SNL skit, that’s a bad sign of things to come.
    So let me just show myself to the door.

  • apr2563

    One could argue that it was because of Congress’s largely partisan productivity the past two years — passing the stimulus, health care reform and financial reregulation…

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    Jay, explain to me how you and the other Villagers can keep up the myth that there was no comprimises with Republicans over the last 2 years. In order to get passage, Democrats in the Congress and the Administration watered down the stimulus bill, removed a public option and other parts of the the health bill, and caved on a number of measures in the financial regulation bill. Did you not observe the Republicans agreeing and then removing the football? Did you not see them making demands and getting many of them agreed to? Did you not witness Obama having meetings with Republicans? Didn’t you see many of the House bills go to the graveyard of the dead, the Senate, fillabustered by the Republicans?
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    But the Village meme is out there. Obama governed from the left, he must now go to that ever moving rightward center. I guess I missed Republicans willing to have serious considerations of immigration reform and environmental legislation. He must be bipartisan. Never stated is that the Republicans must move to the center and be bipartisan. Do you all watch the Fox Propaganda Network for your news?

  • liberalmeltdown

    Apr, you are on another planet along with Patrick: “In order to get passage, Democrats in the Congress and the Administration watered down the stimulus bill, removed a public option and other parts of the the health bill”
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    President Obama won a historic victory in the struggle for health care reform Sunday as the House of Representatives passed a sweeping bill overhauling the American medical system.

    The bill passed in a 219-212 vote after more than a year of bitter partisan debate. All 178 Republicans opposed it, along with 34 Democrats.
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    Again a reality check for the stimulus package:
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    The Senate approved the measure 60-38 with three GOP moderates providing crucial support — the only members of their party to back it. Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio cast the decisive vote after flying aboard a government plane from Ohio, where he was mourning his mother’s death.

    Hours earlier, the House vote was 246-183, with all Republicans opposed to the package of tax cuts and federal spending that Obama has made the centerpiece of his plan for economic recovery.

    The legislation, among the costliest ever considered in Congress, provides billions of dollars to aid victims of the recession through unemployment benefits, food stamps, medical care, job retraining and more. Tens of billions are ticketed for the states to offset cuts they might otherwise have to make in aid to schools and local governments, and there is more than $48 billion for transportation projects such as road and bridge construction, mass transit and high-speed rail.
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    The Democrats passed what they wanted to pass. The stimulus was nothing but a payment to states to keep Union Government workers employed, and a piddly 48 billion to infrastructure. And that’s the truth psfffffffft! Now stop spreading lies. God is watching you.

  • http://hysteriaaah.wordpress.com hysteriaaah

    No one expected Congress’s lame duck session to be particularly productive.

    Well to be fair, the senators got their well-deserved tax breaks extended, so i’m sure that lightened everyones mood in some way or another….

    Anyway, I kind of expected this type of legislative jamming to happen. The democrats/moderates know that most of the bills that they were supposed to pass over the last two years, would never see the light of day when the new congress would start up. A lot of them are heading for the door and never coming back, so for once in their lives, re-election isn’t a recurring theme in their minds…

    In regards to the pres, I’m sure some would look at this as a way for him to try and ‘resurrect’ himself with some of that old-school election 08 gravitas that he’s trying to gain back….but to be honest, i don’t really care, because 9/11 responders can finally get the medical treatment that they need, good people don’t have to be denied from serving their country because they’re gay, and people can now eat their food safely! Welcome to the 21st century america! Everyone wins!(for now)

  • bobell

    Has anyone noticed that Congress did NOT pass the omnibus spending bill, instead opting for a continuing resolution? Does anyone know what that means?

    It means that from now through at least the end of March, which is halfway through fiscal 2011, when the CR expires, federal agencies have the same spending authority they had during fiscal 2010. Not one penny has been added to administer the new health care act, the financial reform act, or the food safety act. There’s no reason to think that the new Congress will ever agree on a spending bill for 2011; we’ll just get CRs as far as the eye can see. In fact, they’re supposed to start in January working on appropriations bills for 2012, and who wants to be they’ll finish them by the start of that fiscal year this coming October? So unless there’s some massive intra-agency moving of appropriated funds — which is far tougher than it may appear — all those wonderful Obama initiatives are going to starve.

    Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell is now REALLY p!ssed off — and Democratic gloating has only darkened his mood — and he will have a cloture-proof Republican caucus with which to hold the Senate hostage. The House, of course, will do what the Republicans want — they will run the place over there.The stimulative part of the fiscal compromise runs out at the end of 2011, while the extension of lower rates on the rich runs until the end of 2012. There’s a strong likelihood of an economic dip at the end of 2011 when the stimulus wears off and the hundred billion dollars or so in potential taxes that gets left in the hands of the rich will be unavailable to the Govt to do some stimulus spending in 2012. And even under optimistic scenarios, unemployment is likely to hover around 9 percent going into the 2012 elections.

    The new chairman of the House committee that handles climate change legislation has told us that we needn’t worry about a changing climate because God will take care of us. I hope someone gets this word to God real soon, because so far He seems to have decided to leave us to our own devices. Will God help those who help themselves? We’ll never know — we won’t help ourselves.

    Cutting the deficit and ultimately reducing the national debt is an admirable ambition, but right now it’s like putting an anorexic on a diet. We need more demand, which means more spending, which means more money in the hand of those who will spend it. So we give some small cuts to the lower-income people and extend massive savings to the rich, who stick it in the bank where it does no good. Oh, sure, we need people to save and invest so we have productive capacity to turn out all those goods and services that people are demanding. Only right now no one’s doing all that much demanding, because so many are unemployed, or underemployed, or over-mortgaged, or afraid to spend because they might lose their jobs tomorrow. So we have huge idle productive capacity and hundreds of billions available for investment that no one’s investing. Banks have plenty of money to lend — at historically low interest rates — and borrowing is still way down. The only way out of this is to stimulate demand. So we’re doing all we can to suck demand out of the economy. A bunch of freakin’ economic geniuses we are.

    For G0d’s sake, Demos — stop gloating. We still need an economic rescue, and everything the Republicans, and particularly the Tea Partiers, want to do is — in this economic climate — counter-productive. Okay, the Bush tax cuts added a trillion dollars or more to the national debt, contributed to the housing bubble, and deprived us of a trillion or so of stimuilative capacity when hard times created the need for it. No matter. We gotta stimulate demand. Everything else is secondary.

    It’s comforting to many that New START got ratified and DADT was repealed and we got some stimulus in exchange for the extension of current income tax raters. But aside from the immediate effects of what Congress did, there’s no reason to feel any less apprehensive about what’s coming. I don’t expect the Rebublicans to come to their senses any time soon — they’re astonishingly resistant to reality — and it will take a near miracle to prevent them from making things worse. I’m trying to be optimistic, but there’s so little to be optimistic about. I predict that the lame duck session will be seen in retrospect as a last gasp of common sense, to be followed by a series of legislative steps and nonsteps next year that will bring about an economic catastrophe. Lehman Brothers or Bear Stearns on a national — even global — scale.

    So Happy New Year to all. My Christmas gift to myself this year was a month’s supply of extremely non-perishable canned goods. Next on my list: plenty of books, for when the electricity goes off. And a good manual can opener.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Jay could you explain why going into debt to borrow 150 billion dollars, to give to billionaires to stick in their savings account, is an example of “centrist” policy? What exactly makes it centrist?

  • newfreedomblog

    “But whether campaigning or in the lame duck, Obama has proven his capacity to surprise when expectations are lowest.”

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    The same surprise that some might say they have when a blind squirrel finds a nut. Same thing, different rodent.

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks for this commentary, it’s worth reading and considering

  • http://shortplaysaboutrealpeople.wordpress.com Michael Maiello

    Equidistant between $250K a year and a net worth of $62 billion lies the center you speak of.

  • kathy

    I took Obama’s comments on bipartisanship to mean:

    “Next year when we can’t get anything done it will be clear that it’s the Republicans’ fault, since we all know I’m all for bipartisanship.”

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    Patrick:
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    Democrats have their feet to the fire with almost no time left to pass the legislation they promised two years ago and went into overdrive and, knowing that they will still be in the minority in the Senate…
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    Democratic President, Democratic dominated House, and Democratic dominated Senate for two years failed to accomplish anything that they publicly claimed to support. All the while they blamed minority obstructionism, even though the minority did not filibuster and did not have enough votes to kill anything. It would appear to me that the majority of Democrats spout what they think their base wants to hear, but when faced with the real authority to implement those ideas, they find some way of squirming out of acting. They suffer from legislative lethargy. But, sure, just keep blaming the Republicans. Why don’t you wait til the Republicans actually have an iota of power before you start calling out their opposition to the Democratic platform. On an side note, the massive amount of legislation just passed actually had quite a few Republican defectors on board, so I guess bipartisanship was present, even if it was never necessary in the first place. It sure bolsters the narrative, though, that the Democrats were in need of GOP support. It’s all a game.

  • freeinpa

    Obama’s Not-So-Lame Record?

    2008- Obama:we will focus to grow jobs
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    2009 Obama: we will now focus like a laser on creating jobs ( I really mean it this time)
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    2010: Obama: we will now turn our focus to creating jobs

    ( I really really really mean it this time)

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    A dictionary ought to define centrist as “although it is the most highly used word in the English language –with a very high concentration of use in the mainstream media — the substance and meaning of the word “centrist” remains elusive. Some believe the word is related to Aristotle’s concept of the Golden Mean in Ethics, others that it is derived from Pythagoras and the golden rectangle.”

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    I will credit Obama, though, for finding the golden ratio for getting something passed by Congress, about 150 billion in tax cuts for billionaires on one side of the equation.

  • diecash1

    Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell is now REALLY p!ssed off — and Democratic gloating has only darkened his mood — and he will have a cloture-proof Republican caucus with which to hold the Senate hostage

    I fail to see the difference here; it’s the same sh!t, different day. Mushmouth has been a useless PITA for his entire career and I don’t see that changing. He’ll continue to throw hissy fits when he doesn’t get what he wants whether or not that benefits the country.

    Not one penny has been added to administer the new health care act, the financial reform act, or the food safety act. There’s no reason to think that the new Congress will ever agree on a spending bill for 2011; we’ll just get CRs as far as the eye can see.

    This is a salient and under-emphasized point. This was the real failing of the lame-duck Congress IMO. I suppose that if you are correct, it may come down to a government shutdown situation before this is resolved.

    For G0d’s sake, Demos — stop gloating. We still need an economic rescue

    That shipped has apparently sailed, Krugman was right. They only had one chance to get that one right and they blew it. We’ll have to ride it out and hope that the cycle turns around rather than swirls the drain.
    ..
    I hope that you’re wrong but, barring a return of sanity on a national level, I think you might be mostly right. Let’s hope not.

  • pintortwo

    The Democrats passed what they wanted to pass. The stimulus was nothing but a payment to states to keep Union Government workers employed, and a piddly 48 billion to infrastructure.
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    I agree with meltdown.
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    I wouldn’t say that the Stim I was “nothing but a payment to states”- 35% (the largest single component) was tax cuts, then add the emergency pmts to the states to keep them from laying off workers and to pay for recently completed and new construction (so contractors wouldn’t lay-off their workers), plus a handful of other things. You can’t call it an investment in jobs programs, as promised. Given the final vote, you have to conclude the Dems got what they wanted (HCR too).
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    And Stim II… didn’t Obama and the Dems campaign against irresponsible Bush tax cuts? But the voters should be happy that the pols made a deal?.. to keep the cuts in place? Bully for the Dems and bipartisanship.
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    So apr2563, this is not a story about obstructionist republicans, even though that IS what they did. The real story is that Obama and the Dems folded. They mostly ignored their own campaign promises, the issues that got them elected, and governed as New-Way-Dem corporatists, or as we might now call it in this country, “center-right”.

  • lilaland

    Freeinpa, in 1925 the republicans ruled the presidency, the congress and the senate. The top tax rate was lowered to 25 percent – the lowest top rate in the eight decades since World War I.

    By 1929 the number of people reporting half-million dollar incomes grows from 156 to 1,489 between 1920 and 1929, a phenomenal rise compared to other decades. But that is still less than 1 percent of all income-earners. By 1929, the richest 1 percent own 40 percent of the nation’s wealth. The bottom 93 percent experienced a 4 percent drop in real disposable per-capita income between 1925 and 1929. Annual per-capita income is $750, in 1995. More than half of all Americans started living below a minimum subsistence level. However, the stock market was at an all time high.

    Recession begins in August, 1929, two months before the stock market crash. During this two month period, production will decline at an annual rate of 20 percent, wholesale prices at 7.5 percent, and personal income declines at 5 percent.

    1929, Stock market crash begins October 24. Investors call October 29 Black Tuesday. Losses for the month will total $16 billion, an astronomical sum in those days.

    http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n2/connections_n2/great_depression.html

    Now, you say Obama has not focused on jobs? Well, we are not at a 25% unemployment rate like the peek of the great depression. A depression he helped prevent.

    So yeah, Obama gets a lot of credit for that.

    However, he was forced to concede to some tax cuts for the rich that do not help heal our nation. (The republicans kind of totally showed their hand this lame duck session, what they wanted more than anything, ANYTHING, was tax cuts for the rich. That kind of makes them toadies for rich masters, but what ever.) They bleed America out with tax cuts for the rich and pool the wealth at the top. The roaring 20′s showed us that if you do that, you get a huge boom for a few years where mainly the wealthy profit and then you get a huge crash. Bush proved that too. However, Reagan raised taxes 8 times after he lowered them and HW Bush raised them some more followed by Clinton who raised them again and it prevented a great depression. (Sadly most republicans did not get the memo that large tax breaks for the rich MUST BE temporary, one or two years, by Reagan, because of the deficit spending they cause)

    Sigh, however, Obama also took measures to put more cash into the people’s pockets that spend it.. which grows the economy and creates jobs. So it was a costly balancing act to prevent a huge job loss crash and now that things are more stable real job creation can be achieved.

  • pintortwo

    IOW: “I expect (want) to get nothing else done so I’ve been building a decent excuse…” ?

  • lilaland

    *Correction. Annual per-capita income is $750, in 1925.

  • lilaland

    lol, I need coffee.

    Annual per-capita income is $750, in 1929.

  • diecash1

    The real story is that Obama and the Dems folded.

    I think your characterization is not entirely correct. There were a handful of factors at play here. Chiefly, complete and total obstructionism from the Repubs and real and substantive divide amongst the Dems. While Obama and more of the Dem leadership could have tried harder to pass a public option, a larger and better targeted stimulus, etc., they were largely blocked by the Blue dogs and the Repubs on those fronts. This is less of an excuse for their shortcomings and more of a statement of fact.

  • lilaland

    “Democratic President, Democratic dominated House, and Democratic dominated Senate for two years failed to accomplish anything that they publicly claimed to support. All the while they blamed minority obstructionism, even though the minority did not filibuster and did not have enough votes to kill anything.”

    Um, the democrats did not have a filibuster proof majority. They did not have 60 votes in the senate. And it is true that they should only need 51 but the republicans threated filibuster on almost every bill. In the end, even though they threatened to filibuster the health care bill, the decided they wanted out before Christmas and the democrats passed it. lol
    Same with this last round. Republicans hate to work holidays. Hate it. Even though our firemen, police offerers and doctors work them often. Ask a republican to work Christmas and give them a gift of tax cuts for the rich, and wow! They proved amazing workers. I’m even proud of them.

  • diecash1

    All the while they blamed minority obstructionism, even though the minority did not filibuster and did not have enough votes to kill anything.

    I’m not sure what you’ve been watching but it has obviously not been the U.S. Senate. How exactly does a cloture motion get passed in the Senate without the votes of the the independents and at least one Repub?
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    The Repubs haven’t filibustered anything? Perhaps not in the Mr. Smith Goes to Washington sense but in reality, they have consistently threatened to filibuster a great many bills and placed holds on many others. Your statement is entirely at odds with reality.

  • pintortwo

    It would appear to me that the majority of Democrats spout what they think their base wants to hear, but when faced with the real authority to implement those ideas, they find some way of squirming out of acting. They suffer from legislative lethargy. But, sure, just keep blaming the Republicans.
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    Agreed.
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    I’ll add: there’s little difference between R and D these days, IMO. And “liberal” and “conservative” are irrelevant terms in current US politics. Both parties want the same thing, only the narrative differs. They want to get elected, hold office for years and ascend to influential positions. They realize that corporate money is essential to their personal ambitions- and that’s how they govern. Everything else is for public consumption.

  • sacredh

    “Republicans hate to work holidays. Hate it.”
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    This democrat loves to work them. Double time pay. Yea! More money to buy Chinese products.

  • pintortwo

    While Obama and more of the Dem leadership could have tried harder to pass a public option, a larger and better targeted stimulus, etc., they were largely blocked by the Blue dogs and the Repubs on those fronts.
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    I don’t know diecash1. Take, for instance, healthcare reform- it was passed by reconciliation because it had no R support. OK, appears to be obstructionism, but if you’re going to use reconciliation, why not pass the bill you really want? Well, I think that’s what the Dems actually did- a bill that the HC industry liked.
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    Yeah, the Dems could have tried for “a larger and better targeted stimulus”, absolutely. So what stopped them? It wasn’t the prospect of losing R support- that never existed. The Ds battled themselves; they gave crucial concessions.. to themselves. They didn’t fight Rs (or even Blue Dogs) for anything.
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    I’ve said before- “Blue Dog (Moderate, Centrist, New Way.. etc) Democrat Support” is code for the minimum number of Democrat “defectors” required to tank a bill while retaining the ability to blame the Republicans for it’s failure.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Exiled,
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    Sure there was huge infighting among the the unofficial three parts of the Democratic (progressive, moderate and blue dog) but you totally ignore that this congress passed more than any other congress in 50 years and the fact that filibustering was a full time job for Senate Republicans.
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    It was an action filled two years with the final two months catching up even faster.
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    Tons of things got passed with constant filibustering from Republicans. I disagree with your assessment completely.

  • chrisnbama

    Wait, I thought you were one of these folks that argue that the government can not create jobs? Or is that what you’re mocking? It’s so hard to tell.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Your spouting has no outside references nor explanations.
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    What magic will happen from 2011 until the election of 2012 which will assure that Republicans will keep the house and, furthermore, make gains?
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    Just a question, Meltdown.
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    Right now you post looks like to me ,”LET’S GO METS ! LETS GO METS !”
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    At least try to make case for something.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “President Obama won a historic victory in the struggle for health care reform Sunday as the House of Representatives passed a sweeping bill overhauling the American medical system.’
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    Sweeping bill overhauling the American medical system?
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    A tax law was passed which would tax anybody business or self employed person2.5% of their income if they do not buy health insurance.
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    Not too exciting.

    “The bill passed in a 219-212 vote after more than a year of bitter partisan debate…”
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    Partisan debate?
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    Democrats vs Democrats is Partisan?
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    So, if it was Democrat vs Republicans, then, perhaps some things were changed to seek Republicans votes to try and make it a bipartisan bill just like Apr said?
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    Apr is about a generation older than I am, very obviously the opposite gender, the opposite coast of the US but very much on the same planet, indeed: earth.
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    This is not to be mistaken for where you are from: Foxland several thousand light years away where evolution did not happen and climate change is a secret plot starting when Al Gore was 19 in 1967 to make sure that by the time he got divorced he would be a sexy movie start and win over plenty of women.

  • pintortwo

    this congress passed more than any other congress in 50 years and the fact that filibustering was a full time job for Senate Republicans
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    Patrick, don’t mistake busy for effective. What can you point to that effectively fulfills Obama and the Dems’ campaign promises? Promises that were popular with the people. IMO, they could have passed bills that would have satisfied a number of them. Not only did they fail (which, at times, is unavoidable) but I can’t see where they really tried- that lack of effort is unacceptable.

  • myshele

    The tax cut and spend Republicans are going to bankrupt this country. This goes back to Ronald Reagan. When it comes to Military spending and getting us into extremely expensive wars with no thought of how to disengage or even what a victory would be and tax cuts for the rich, the Republicans are out of control.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “…. [Republican/Tea Partiers] they’re astonishingly resistant to reality…”
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    Classic line, Bob!
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    I wish I had said it so well myself.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    As I see it, if the American people are scared by what happened to the economy the last two years, just wait until the Republicans take over again.
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    Do you want to see something really scary?
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  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    How Democrats feel after watching what Republicans did the last time:
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  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I do agree that everything got watered down badly.
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    Although it is not the way I like things to be done, I see this is a baby step in the right direction.
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    Although HCR and most of the undone business was economic, I see this much like the horribly slow progress from the emancipation proclamation to the signing of the last Civil rights bill or, for a less dramatic example, from a full ban on gays in the military from 1916 through 1993 to DADT for 17 years until a complete willingness to accept homosexuals into the armed forces.
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    Conservatives (going far enough back slave owners and confederates were conservatives and, back then, Republicans were the liberals) fear change. So, sometimes it is a process of steps that win.
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    Opposition to ACA has been slowly dropping. Maybe during the next Democratic majority (2012? We’ll see) a public option can be put in while Republicans and the next new brand of far right wingers (after the Tea Party… the Pennsylvania whiskey rebellion of 1791–1794?) will cry bloody murder and continue back and forth until the 2008 Democratic agenda will be properly passed by 2016 under a different president.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Neo’s assertion: All the while they blamed minority obstructionism, even though the minority did not filibuster
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    Refuted by demonstration: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/cloture_motions/clotureCounts.htm

  • apr2563

    My point is that the conventional beltway wisdom is that Obama governed from the left. He will now have to move right. Nothing being said about the need for the Republicans to be bipartisan. And, the idea that Obama governed from the left is because the goalpost keeps shifting to the right.

  • apr2563

    Today is Festivus. Have you set up your aluminum pole, any feats of strength, or aired your gievances?
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    A Fesitivus for the rest of us!
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  • pintortwo

    Patrick, I don’t think that we should look at it like that. “Baby steps in the right direction”, “a slow process”… they’re excuses. We have to deal with today.
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    We may not get another opportunity like this in our lifetimes. Citizens were tired of elite-centric laws. People clamored for HC reform. We witnessed a dismantling of protective regulations resulting in economic catastrophe. Many realized that the wars were sold to us by misrepresentations, and they were pissed… Most Americans wanted something new. They were ready to try different solutions, ie. invest in jobs programs; 75% of Americans wanted to have a public option available; they wanted to re-establish bank regulations that were effective in the past; to bring our young soldiers home, to reform campaign finance.. And we elected the candidate that seemed most liberal in order to fix things. This is an opportunity wasted.
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    I agree with Krugman- we won’t get another chance to fix the problems for a long time. Not in banking reform, perhaps not in other areas. You see it already: corporate media has successfully (for many) blamed liberalism for the the problems and failures of corporatist/neo conservatism. The pendulum of US politics continues to swing toward oligarchy.
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    Obama and the Dems, in my opinion, prevented us from realizing the solutions we voted for. Our children (children’s children) will have to live through an epic crisis in order to see these programs.. and it is surely heading that way.

  • shepherdwong

    What exactly makes it centrist?
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    I think I’ve got this one. If it splits the difference between right-wing corporatist insanity and rational progressive policy and, therefore, can only be defended based upon a “bi-partisan” political process, that’s centrist policy.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “they’re excuses. We have to deal with today…”
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    It’s better than the Republican/Tea Party alternative of pure, unapologetic Oligarchy.
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    I wish Obama was on the right wing of spectrum and Bernie Sanders was leading a truly liberal party, but, this is the US in 2010 bought and paid for by Fox Inc.

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    Pnnto, Patrick, DieCash-
    ~
    Perhaps I should have been slightly more descriptive. What I meant was:
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    All the while they blamed minority obstructionism, even though the minority did not successfully filibuster and did not have enough votes to kill anything.
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    Larger than this minor technicality, of course, my point was that the Democratic Party had the power to pass essentially whatever they wanted, and, despite Republican rhetoric and opposition -at times reflexive- to basically everything that was proposed, the GOP simply could not prevent anything. And yet the Democrats did nothing, until now. The Republicans were a symbolic obstacle to Democratic governance, but relatively powerless. There is an ongoing narrative that the Democrats must have bipartisan support to pass anything, it’s a fallacy, and yet it was disingenuously reinforced by recent GOP defection on legislation that passed. Now, the Democrats have yet another talking point: passage required GOP support. The GOP, though hardly an entity worthy of any pity, has become the unfair scapegoat of Democratic impotence.

  • Paul-no not that one

    neo-welcome to Swampland where goodness knows the love for the Democrats -particularly the Senate Democrats-knows no bounds. Sheesh.
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    That aside “the minority did not successfully filibuster”
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    What is your understanding of cloture? Did you read the link I provided? It’s understandable if you didn’t, no one clicks them all.
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    Lastly- Buon Natale*.
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    *Hope I got the spelling correct.

  • akismet-8970f61dd51630cf920a41be8c8dc93b

    “If you’re a supporter of this President’s agenda, you have seen some setbacks and false starts, but Christmas has undoubtedly come early. While the President is being labeled the “comeback kid” and the glow of a convalescent figure follows him to vacation in Hawaii. Your gift was a country moving in the progressive direction you voted for in 2008. Change has indeed come to America, now it’s time to dig in and protect all that has been accomplished.”

    My review of the 111th “Mighty-Duck” Congress:
    http://j.mp/i7kUMZ

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Does that mean it is not a coherent, internally consistent body of thought?

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    Buon Natale anche a te!
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    I did click your link. Perhaps I have my understanding all askew, but I thought cloture votes prevent a filibuster? If I am correct -and I am in no way arrogantly assuming that I am- then the presence of more cloture votes than any other Congress simply demonstrates that the Democrats were often forced to rebuff the threat of Republican filibuster, not that the GOP actually carried out successful filibusters, no? Again, I know I often come off as very smug, that’s not my intention here, if I have my understanding of the cloture concept wrong, then disregard what I have just written.

  • diecash1

    A vote for cloture is a vote to end debate and 60 votes are required for a cloture motion to pass. Since the Dems don’t have 60 seats, they require the votes of the independents and at least one Repub. Since the election of Scott Brown, the Republicans have routinely voted against cloture so that debate cannot be ended and the given legislation cannot be voted upon. As has been demonstrated to you previously, the Republicans have consistently obstructed the business of the Senate.
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    Oh, almost forgot…..Merry Christmas to my fellow Swamplanders!

  • shepherdwong

    That’s correct. If the objective is bi-partisanship it must necessarily be completely relative. That’s how moderate Republican health care reform becomes a centrist Democratic one.
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    OTOH, “bi-partisanship” could just be to cover the fact that the moderate Republican reform plan with an individual mandate and no public option was all our corporate masters were going to allow us and corporatist Democrats needed some sort of rationale for selling out the working classes and “bi-partisanship” is about all they’ve got. IOW, it’s not relative at all, bi-partisan policies that serve our oligarchs is the guiding star of most of our political and media elite and everything else, “bi-partisanship included,” is just a dog-and-pony show for the rubes.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    I think the objective is to pretend that focus groups and surveys of suburb dwellers — the results of which are filled with the inevitable contradictions of consumer desires, contradictions that do even possess the decency to resolve themselves in a rational dialectic — is equivalent to a coherent body of political and ethical thought. Following the advice of the consumer marketers, that have taken over politics, they even had the nerve to give the movement a new name “the third way” as if there is a “there” there, some sort of internally consistent system.

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