Barbour’s Baggage

The conventional wisdom goes that Haley Barbour, were he to run for president, would struggle as a son of the deep south and former super-lobbyist. Matt Yglesias and Ben Smith cover some of the problems from the former category raised in Andrew Ferguson’s cover piece in the Weekly Standard today. Ferguson gets into the latter issue as well:

So deeply was Barbour enmeshed in the money culture of Washington that he even put up money for a restaurant in partnership with Tommy Boggs, a fellow lobbyist (Democratic flavored) with a reputation as large as Barbour’s. Called the Caucus Room, it is less an eatery than a staging area for Washington operators. The fare is steak and martinis, the prices are inflated beyond reason, the décor is all mahogany and manly leather, and the floor plan ensures a dozen nooks and crannies and tucked-away rooms for private parties. Walking in you can’t help but think that there’s one restaurant designer who’s seen too many episodes of West Wing. Except the Caucus Room is real, and it was an instant success with Barbour’s friends on Capitol Hill. Over one two-year period, Bloomberg News reported, members of Congress spent more than $300,000 at the Caucus Room, with an average bill of $1,140. Barbour has since sold his stake, but for a time his involvement with the restaurant was almost a parody of Washington insiderdom—a Christopher Buckley novel come horribly to life.

Barbour likes to spin it as an asset — a lobbyist-in-chief sort of thing — but it’s very hard to picture that getting him too far when this kind of Beltway caricature is being mercilessly wielded against him in a presidential election.

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  • stuartzechman

    Does any reasonable person believe that Haley Barbour would win the popular vote in this country?

  • perrywhite1

    This is a guy who says, with a straight face, that he remembers a time before civil rights, and “it wasn’t too bad.” Gee, Haley, could that have something to do with you being a rich white guy?

  • deconstructiva

    Long answer: no.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    Does any reasonable person doubt the reasonableness of the average American?
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    I wish I could say I didn’t.

  • Paul-no not that one

    I heard Barbour recently and this is not a terribly important issue but he sounded as if he had a mouth full of marbles.
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    I don’t know if he was hamming it up as a Southerner in Minnesota but he close to unintelligible.

  • http://therealestamerican.wordpress.com therealestamerican

    Whew! The good news is that you don’t have to win the popular vote to get elected President!
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    Palin- Barbour 2012 has quite the ring to it!

  • textee

    Earth to Time magazine: Andrew Ferguson and other members of the pro-America community do not object to people like Barbour opening a restaurant and/or making money.

    I haven’t read Ferguson’s piece, but if Time magazine thinks that the quoted portion of Ferguson’s piece is critical of Barbour, then you need some remedial reading training. Pronto.

  • deconstructiva

    So textee hasn’t read the piece in question yet is compelled to write something, anything. Wonderful. Like a film critic writing a review without seeing the movie: “Well, I haven’t seen this upcoming movie, but hey, Paul Verhoeven directed RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct, so this new film Showgirls must be one hell of a flick, yes?”

  • certifiablylazy

    You have got to be a monkey in some coat room at the RNC. There isn’t any other explanation.

  • bobcn1

    I’ve just never understood how Barbour could be considered a realistic presidential candidate. Besides this incident, Barbour will always be famous for taking money for the RNC (laundered through the National Policy Forum) from a Taiwanese national and then pretending under oath that he didn’t know the money was foreign (link).

    One Republican, however, rose to the occasion–chairman, Fred Thompson. Thompson opened his question period by prodding Barbour on the convergence between the RNC and the NPF, chiding him for not considering foreign money “radioactive,” and casting scorn on his professions of ignorance about where the $2.1 million was coming from. “You’re sitting on a boat in Hong Kong Harbor, talking to a gentlemen who is a citizen of Taiwan,” Thompson noted.

    One would think that a campaign ad with a juxtaposition of Barbour’s Senate testimony and pictures of a yacht in Hong Kong harbor would end any pretense to honesty that Barbour might claim. He could either continue lying or plead stupidity. In a normal world that should be enough to doom his candidacy. Unfortunately, in the current hyper-partisan environment, many in Barbour’s party appear to consider rank dishonesty a plus.

  • grape_crush

    The conventional wisdom goes…it’s very hard to picture that getting him too far when this kind of Beltway caricature is being mercilessly wielded against him in a presidential election.

    So when does Barbour get his Time cover?

  • grape_crush

    Barbour, were he to run for president, would struggle as a son of the deep south…

    That’s an understatement.

  • kbanginmotown

    IOKIYAR. Problem solved!

  • tilliswynette

    Liberals all the time going after good men like Haley Barbour it just makes you think whose the racist?

  • grape_crush

    That makes no sense whatsoever.

  • tilliswynette

    Typical libtard ignorance. In the USA we dont need to win the popular vote to become President. You need to win electorals and you might as well just start counting now with Texas!

  • stuartzechman

    In the USA we dont need to win the popular vote to become President
    .
    And that makes our electoral system a…what, again?

  • freeinpa

    “And that makes our electoral system a…what, again?”
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    A system that has managed to work quite well for over 200 years, thank you very much

  • apr2563

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/barbour-spokesman-mississippi-gov-is-not-racist.php?ref=fpa
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    Barbour liked those white citizen councils. They kept out the KKK by being more well mannered bigots.
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    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/the-white-citizens-councils-br-respectable-means-for-unrespectable-ends-2460
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    David Halberstam, 1956, re: White Citizens Councils
    .

    The White Citizens Councils, a loosely connected series of local groups which have arisen throughout the South in protest against the Supreme Court’s May 17, 1954 desegregation decision, undoubtedly constitute a very significant political phenomenon. Individually, the Councils can be either powerful or frail, at times the sincere expression of confusion and desperation, at other times the vehicle for personal frustration. But the single thread connecting all the Councils, strong and weak, is the determination not just to oppose integration in the public schools but to stop or at least postpone it. In most of the Deep South, where hostility to integration is nearly universal, it is this militancy and dedication that make the Council member stand out.

  • apr2563

    The White Citizens councils morphed into the CCC, Council of Conservative Citizens (see not KKK) to continue their bigotry.
    They are now protesting the casting of a black man as a Nordic god. So sadly funny.
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    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/12/when_the_white_man_loses_the_nordic_gods_1.php?ref=fpblg
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    As the CCC says, “It seems that Marvel Studios believes that white people should have nothing that is unique to themselves.”

  • apr2563

    Thanks to TPM some memories of the White Citizens Council as shown in their publications.
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    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/flashback-citizens-councils-touted-racial-integrity-christian-love-and-segregation.php?ref=fpi
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    2 good books about Jim Crow:
    Fiction: The Help
    Non-fiction: Warmth of Other Suns…An almost 20 year study of the Great Migration of black citizens from the south to the north and west. It gave me more insight into Jim Crow than anything I have ever read. Lots of statistics but also the harrowing stories of 3 migrants over 3 decades.

  • sacredh

    He hasn’t been the same since he saw Marlon Brando in The Godfather. Remember when Haley got interviewed in his backyard and chased that guy through the hanging laundry wearing those fangs?

  • rwbbinla

    @grape_crush

    Your lack of understanding of this post is commendable in the light of not understanding the lingo of southern republicans these days! In the deep south the code word for people who have a different in skin color is “Democrat” or “Liberal”. The southern strategy of the republican party has worked very well where I live. Taken in that context, tilliswynette’s post makes perfect “sense”. Sad but true. Keep up the good work. Your posts and links are appreciated and informative.

  • sacredh

    rwbbinla, it’s been my experience that if you don’t live in a conservative, racist and biggoted area, you can have a hard time understanding how something completely unacceptable might seem completely acceptable and normal to others. There are churches in my area that are 100% elderly, very conservative and white. They think nothing of calling blacks n!ggers. Chinese are Chinks. Gays are queers. They seem puzzled that anyone would take offense at the way they talk. To them that’s what they are so why would anyone that isn’t “one of them” be offended.
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    I can’t speak for grape_crush at all. I don’t know where he lives or what the demographics are. I did understand tilliswynette’s post. I see it all the time where I live. I see people look angry when they see a mixed race couple. It’s a huge deal where I live if two people of the same sex are seen holding hands. The whole country isn’t anywhere near accepting as the big cities are. It is sad, but it is true.
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    My initial post went into moderation because I spelled out the “n” word. I’d never used it before so I didn’t know it was a banned word. Apologies to anyone that is offended

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    In the immortal words of a rich white liberal: “we must pass this bill to see what’s in it”.
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    By that logic we should elect Barbour to see what he’s about.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    Paul I think you have him mixed up with Barney Frank. And that mouthful of marbles, uh…

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