The 411 on $7 Billion for 9/11

Last week, Senate Republicans burst a very dear bubble of New York Democrats when they blocked a funding bill for 9/11 responders. The measure, officially called the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act, is aimed at improving health services and providing compensation for those on the scene—but it was primarily the $7 billion cost, not the content, that the GOP railed against.

The battle isn’t necessarily over. The bill failed to get debated; it wasn’t all-out rejected. And for now, the blockage serves as a nice bludgeon for the Democrats, who brought the bill to the floor in the face of a letter sent to Harry Reid on Nov. 29. In it, Senate Republicans said they would refuse to move on any Democrat-backed legislation until the Bush tax cuts were extended and a government funding bill passed. And refuse to move they did, giving Democrats the opportunity to cry that the GOP cares more about millionaire tax-breaks than victims of terrorist attacks.

Despite an amendment offsetting the cost with a proposed change in tax provisions, the general wisdom on the Hill is that this bill doesn’t really have a chance. This sort of measure is, to Republicans, an example of overblown government spending targeted at a relatively tiny group (that already has charities and funds at its disposal). But should the measure get brought back after the tax cuts are dealt with and wangle its way to the floor, it’s worth knowing where that money would go. So here comes the breakdown:

The total comes from a Congressional Budget Office analysis. The CBO identified the relevant population to be around 650,000 people, made of two groups: responders (75,000) and survivors (575,000), which include commuters, residents, “passers-by,” and students enrolled nearby. Out of that total, they assumed that only 15% would actually enroll in the health program and only about 5% would apply for and receive compensation.

The health care program, capped at $3.5 billion, would cover everything from treating physical conditions related to the attacks—like, say, lung disease from inhaling dust—to mental health problems for surviving family members of responders. A few less-direct provisions, for things like data collection and education, would also get a piece of the pie. (The CBO estimated the total based on data from Medicare, the Medical Expenditure Panel Survey, the Federal Employees Compensation Act and others.)

The compensation prong, capped at $4.2 billion up to 2020, would reopen the Victim Compensation Fund, which pays out to any individual (or relative of a deceased individual) who was killed or hurt in the attacks. Up through 2004, 2,880 death awards and 2,680 injury awards were paid out, to the tune of more than $7 billion.

This time, the requirements for getting VCF money would be looser, with later deadlines and greater allowances for where a person could have been and when they could have been there. For example, someone on a cleanup crew for a month in mid-2002 might be eligible under this bill, whereas before individuals had to be present on site within hours of the attacks. And the geographic area would include routes used to remove debris, including barges and landfills. All told, the CBO estimates that during the next 10 years, 35,000 awards of an average $180,000 would be paid out under this legislation. (There are also smaller costs to anticipate, like the amount it takes to process claims for awards or attorney’s fees.)

So what say you, Swamplanders? Should the bill arise again, should the Dems get some Republican support?

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  • http://shortplaysaboutrealpeople.wordpress.com Michael Maiello

    You’re being too kind when you say it was the cost and not the substance of the bill that the GOP objected to. $7 billion is not a lot of money. So the GOP refused to pay a small amount of money for health services and compensation for 9/11 responders, many of whom were severely and perhaps permanently sickened by the toxins in the air those weeks.

    If they objected to the cost and not to the substance then they would have offered a less costly alternative. But they didn’t.

  • Katy Steinmetz

    It was what they most publicly objected to — hopefully I get the merit of your point across in the third paragraph.

  • gysgt213

    Katie-Well since the republicans say one thing and the democrats say something else and the CBO says another. I can’t figure it out.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    If they were all billionaires the Republicans would support the bill.

  • deconstructiva

    Thanks, Katy, good post / update. Should the bill arise again? Short and sweet answer: Yes.
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    Long answer: Hell yes. If we’re supposed to take care of our troops overseas …whether we really do or not is another matter, but I digress. No doubt Mark Thompson’s checking that out… then we should take care of the police, fire, and other first responders who protect us at home. ‘Nuff said.
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    Need more? Just on PR alone – let alone it being the right thing to do – this is a winner for the D’s and can move forward without R support if they stay aggressive. Make them keep this issue front and center on a “They took care of us / We need to take care of them” thingy both this month and next two years. Bring the bill up regularly and ask the R’s every time they kill it, “You claim to love America and respect law and order, so why are you denying those who preserve our law and order the care they deserve?” Keep at it; hell, filibuster the Senate, force it into key budget deals, whatever it takes.
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    And as for the media, grab this story and run with it, Katy. Make this your story and stay on this at the swamp, at healthland, dead-tree, on TV, etc. and become TIME’s media starlet on this issue (literally). Keep reminding the public constantly that this needs passed and why. Do you know any NYC or Pentagon workers / victims personally that you can profile to ram the point home? Go for it.
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    Remember that HC made KT a star and may have helped with ACA passage, esp. with her brother’s cover story. If YOU can help get this passed thru your balanced – and constant – coverage, you’ll being doing the right thing. You can and should do this. And we know it. Now go get this story put on the next cover. Believe us; there’s a large audience that will passionately follow this (can you tell I’m one of them?). Good luck and keep us informed. Thanks for your thoughts, Katy (and for reading this long reply).

  • Katy Steinmetz

    You’re welcome. And thanks for your thoughts (and encouragement), as always.

  • hattusilas

    Katy: Killing the bill will be a political plus for the GOP. Anytime they can say “screw you” to New York, their base sends more contributions. True, it’s first responders and other underpaid working-class people, but, wait a minute! They’re union members, aren’t they! Another reason to cut them off at the knees.

  • americanwithabrain

    7 billion isn’t a lot of money… if your party and your president has been throwing trillions around like it was pocket change.

    Passers by???… read the article… PASSERS BY??? This almost sounds like a TV lawyer pitch…”If you or someone you know was in New York state or New Jersey, or perhaps visited the area between 2001 and 2009, you may be entitled to a large cash award!”

    Those who were nearby, passers by, or in a neighboring county? This will bring the masses flocking to the money distributions with all kinds of heretofore unheard of maladies.

    But, throwing money to the masses, regardless of need or merit, is, after all, the democratic way.

    The first responders should have their needs taken care of, no question. Trolling for “victims” who may vote for your party if you throw them a bone… come on Democrats. And the “if they were among the wealthiest americans, the republicans would be doing it” arguement is getting old, you need a new talking point. That wealthiest 1% pays 40% of the taxes in this country. When you tax them out of existence, who’s gonna pay that 40%?

  • deconstructiva

    Ah, your last two sentences gave you away. Do you really care about THIS issue or should do you direct your anti-Tax Cut™ rants to the other threads that cover that (and to stay on topic)?

  • deconstructiva

    …anti-Tax Cut™ repeal, of course…

  • 3xfire3

    americanwithabrain,
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    “The first responders should have their needs taken care of, no question. Trolling for “victims” who may vote for your party if you throw them a bone… come on Democrats.”
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    You must not be a Liberal. Your comments are Logical, Rational and show an abundance of Common Sense.
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    We see very little of that from the Swamp Liberals who are mostly Extreme Ideologues.
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    What you have read in their above posts is the same garbage they post every day.
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    Fortunately they make up a very small segment of our citizens. We been trying to trade them to another Country for years but no one wants them.

  • fealgood

    To Katy Steinmetz: what’s the deal with your snarky column about efforts to help tens of thousands of Americans who are sick because of an act of war? This bill is about saving people’s lives, and it should never have been treated –as you do- like a political sideshow.

    I was a 9/11 first responder and I run an organization that helps other ailing responders, because the federal government refuses to. I lost half my foot at Ground Zero; nearly 1,000 9/11 responders have since lost their lives.

    Those passers-by you mention? One of them was Felicia Dunn-Jones, an attorney who was caught in the dust plume on 9/11. She died of 9/11-caused sarcoidosis (scarring of the lungs and other organs) a few years ago. The New York City Medical Examiner listed her cause of death as a homicide caused by the terrorist attacks.

    If you were writing a column about veterans, you would have treated the subject with more respect. I served in the U.S. Army, so I think I have standing to say that 9/11 responders, who put their lives on the line to help our country, shouldn’t be treated any differently.

  • Art Pepper

    But the GOP will still use footage of the towers in their campaign ads, I’m sure.
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    commuters, residents, “passers-by,” and students enrolled nearby
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    Well, I’m sure that was their fault. They should have been living in Real America.

  • omne35

    Ok, help me with this. We have first responders all over the country that handle toxic emergencies and often end up with health problems. Why are we giving money to the responders from one emergency? Why is it different than the other first responders that risk their lives daily? Because they get more press? Because 9/11 is “special”?

    I had the same problem when they started paying the victim’s families. Why didn’t the government pay the families of victims killed at the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma?

    Killed by a foreign born terrorist? Here’s a check.
    Killed by an American terrorist? Go pound sand.

  • http://e54tommy.wordpress.com e54tommy

    Katy-My heart goes out for AMERICANS who worked to recover bodies so families would have something ,anything to bury.When they worked their health care was not on their mind plus the federal government lied and said air was safe. Now for many their health is failing like the government that is sworn to protect us.What happened to the pride we all felt when we saw the firefighters raise the stars and stripes I never saw so many flags displayed.Now their folded up and thrown into the back of closets.The 9/11 attacks are this generations Pearl Harbor.This country took care of injured civilians then why not now? Some call it another entitlement program believe me you don’t want to be entitled. Why is Washington ,DC gambling with American lives,WHY? I’m sorry to say NEVER FORGET- ALREADY FORGOTTEN

  • http://e54tommy.wordpress.com e54tommy

    GOD BLESS YOU SIR

  • http://layton1000.wordpress.com layton1000

    I am in favor of this bill, but can understand how some people might oppose it. What I think everyone can agree on would be a smaller, more tightly-focused bill: covering expenses related to the health (physical or mental) of anyone who tried to assist the victims of 9/11, either immediately or in the months that followed. This should not be debatable. These men and women are, in my mind, on par with war heroes injured in the line of action.

    The tougher sell is that the bill should cover people who were exposed to health problems not through their bravery and efforts to help others, but because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Those injuries and deaths are tragic, but not quite the same sort of thing as the 9/11 responders. I view these people as sort of like the victims of any natural disaster, who just have the profoundly bad luck to suffer through a horrible event. Obviously this event is not natural –it was set in motion by madmen and criminals– but the 9/11 victims other than the responders are no more or less responsible for their suffering than, say, the Katrina victims or the fishermen in the gulf suffering from the BP spill.

    I would support relief for both of them and would pay my part to give them aid. (As I would for the other groups, but that’s another question for another day!) But I do think it’s a little disingenuous to bill this as a “responders’ bill,” as my RSS reader did. The article’s title there was “The Funding Bill for 9/11 Responders Near Death.” As the numbers show, this bill covers a lot more than responders. That difference does not matter to me, but I can see how some people in good conscience could draw a distinction and not be monsters or anything. One group was the victim of a horrible circumstance beyond any of our control; the other put themselves at risk to bring aid to the rest of us. We owe them thanks and help in their own moment of need.

  • apr2563

    fealgood: Thank you for your service and your work for a good cause.
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    What would Jesus do?

  • apr2563

    Do people remember how Gulliani and Whitman lied to workers at the 911 site telling them it wasn’t hazardous?
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    http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/52226/giuliani,_bush_%26_whitman_leave_new_yorkers_for_dead/

  • lou58lou

    I object to “millionaire tax-breaks ” millionaires are very good at keeping their money they will find other ways to keep it. The people this would hurt are the ones struggling to keep a roof over their heads, food on the table, and to pay for heating bills this winter. I think the tax cuts should be permanent. As to the victims of 9/11 when the war is over and we are not paying for that, there will be more money to help everyone, as long as our government STOPS treating the money they are in charge of like their personal unlimited piggy bank.

  • michaelfury

    Yes:

    “We are very encouraged that the results from our monitoring of air quality and drinking water conditions in both New York and near the Pentagon show that the public in these areas is not being exposed to excessive levels of asbestos or other harmful substances,” Whitman said. “Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C. that their air is safe to breath and their water is safe to drink,” she added.”

    http://www.epa.gov/wtc/stories/headline_091801.htm

  • kbanginmotown

    fealgood: Best wishes for your continued recovery and thank you for your post and continued service.
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    apr: Thanks for the video link. Truly powerful stuff.
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    Would that more Americans had consciences to go along with their professed abundance of gray matter…

  • hippooath

    “We see very little of that from the Swamp Liberals who are mostly Extreme Ideologues.”
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    3x the wise have spoken…out of his @ss as usual.

  • 3xfire3

    Hippo,
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    Can’t handle the truth? That’s proof positive you are an Ideologue.

  • 3xfire3

    layton,
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    “The article’s title there was “The Funding Bill for 9/11 Responders Near Death.” As the numbers show, this bill covers a lot more than responders. That difference does not matter to me, but I can see how some people in good conscience could draw a distinction and not be monsters or anything.”
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    Thank you for your insightful and caring post.
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    Your analysis of this horrible situation is very good. You have attempted to understand both sides of the story and offer a solution that makes sense.
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    I totally agree with your view of a reasonable solution. Liberals of this site always want to demonize anyone who doesn’t share their views and politics. They don’t understand that other Americans can have a different view of how to solve a problem and that does not make them evil.
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    Conservatives truly want to help the people who are truly in need of help. They just don’t want people who are not really in need to take advantage of the system. If we are all being honest we would admit that there are many people who do take advantage of the system and that is not good for them or the rest of our citizens who have to pay for those abuses.
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    Again thanks for your post.

  • 3xfire3

    Apr,
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    You would believe anything written on a left wing site.
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    Too bad you are such an ideologue. At your age most people would have more common sense.

  • np042

    Which makes you what, exactly 3x? Are you claiming to not be an idealogue as well?

  • Katy Steinmetz

    Fealgood – I meant no disrespect, and I will certainly be keeping your reaction to this in mind for the future. I wish you the best in your recovery and all your endeavors to help the recovery of others. — Katy

  • 3xfire3

    lou58,
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    A small business owner and their spouse who show more than $250,000 on paper for tax purposes are not Millionaires.
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    Most small businesses are “S” Corporations and the business’s net profit is added to personal income for tax purposes. When you add the income of the husband and wife to the net profits of their small business or farm it can easily show over $250,000.
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    For example
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    Husband’s salary………$70,000
    Wife’s salary……………..80,000
    Net Profit of Business…150,000
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    Total for tax purposes…$300,000
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    Since the total shown is $300,000 they pay taxes at a relatively high percentage.
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    Do they really have $300,000 of spendable income? Not even close. Most of the net profits of the business must be left in the business as working capital to operate the business or farm. The net profits are used to buy inventory so you have products to sell or use for crops and to finance sales to customers. Often customers do pay for their purchases for up to 90 days and there many other expenses that must be paid to operate and run a small business or farm.
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    People who claim these small business owners and farmers are millionaires are either ignorant of how small businesses and farms operate or are simply lying to push their personal agendas.

  • np042

    People who misrepresent how the tax system works are either ignorant of simply lying to push their personal agendas.
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    Let’s take your example right here. The total, “net” income for the couple is $300,000. I would assume this is before any tax decuctions, but let’s even go with saying that the $300,000 is their total, taxable, income.
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    $250,000 of that is going to be taxed the same, assuming the “middle class” tax cuts get passed. That leave $50,000. If those tax cuts aren’t renewed, the rate will go from 36% to 39%. Yes, that is absolutely devastating, an extra 3% on 17% of the couple’s income. Your hypothetical couple would be paying an extra 0.5% (half a percent) extra in taxes, were the cuts to be extended for only those under $250,000.
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    No one wants to pay more taxes if they don’t have to. But to act like this is some great injustice to your hypthetical couple because of either your ignorance or disregard for how the tax system works is ridiculous. Get off your high horse and stop acting like your standing up for the little guy. This couple isn’t going to feel hardly anything if the tax cuts on above $250k expire.
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    Of course this all assumes that the couple doesn’t have enough deductions to further decrease their taxable income: owning their own business, kids, charitable giving, etc.

  • 3xfire3

    npo,
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    My point is for the Left to continue to Demonize these people and call them Millionaires is a lie. They are not Millionaires.
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    Do you agree? Yes or No?

  • np042

    I agree that they are not millionaires. I disagree that the left is demonizing them. You miss the broader point that your hypothetical couple will see little, if any, affect from letting the $250k+ cuts expire. The people who will see the mose benefit are the millionaires. You also miss the broader criticism of the right that they would prevent good, important, needed legislation (DADT, 9/11 responders, START) from passing and would rather hold the average American hostage in order to gain passage of the higher income bracket tax cuts.
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    To me, it seems quite hypocritical to criticize the left for demonizing millionaires while at the same time the right has been demonizing the left, liberals, progressives, etc for years.

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    Liberals of this site always want to demonize anyone who doesn’t share their views and politics.

    @3x: What a way to generalize!! Many liberals, myself included, don’t want to demonize anybody. The only thing we are demonizing, if it were to be called demonizing, is your policies. Everybody got a tax cut in 2001 and ten years later, the economy is in shambles. But the way to fix the economy is to extend those same tax cuts? Since the tax cuts of 2001, this country has seen a net job loss of 200,000. In contrast, Bill Clinton raised taxes and had a net job growth of 2.2million. Clinton also balanced the budget and handed Bush a surplus that had been projected to grow until Bush and the republicans got their hands on it. From 2001 – 2008, the republicans didn’t see a spending program they didn’t like. And once they realized the surplus was gone, they put it all on credit from China, even the cost of war. I said in 2003, at the time of Bush’s second round of tax cuts that you don’t cut in wartime, you raise them and that this would be horrible for the country and the economy. Now I’m not an economist, I’m not even very good at balancing my own checkbook, but I know idiocy when I see it. At no other time in history have taxes been lowered in war; at no other time in history has the public not been asked to sacrifice during war. .
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    The greed in this country is simply astonishing.

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