Morning Must Reads: Turkey

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

What did I miss?

GOPers begin intimidation campaign against the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau…

“The lawmakers wrote that the agency warrants ‘rigorous’ oversight by the inspectors general because it will play a significant role in credit availability for consumers and small businesses. GOP lawmakers have also sent letters to regulators on the legal bills incurred by former executives of government-controlled mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the economic impact of the financial-overhaul rules being written by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The letters are the strongest signals yet of how the new House Republican majority plans to use its oversight powers to hobble elements of the Obama agenda.

While they have little hope of repealing the new consumer agency—which has broad powers to write rules for mortgages, credit cards and other financial products—Republicans can work to influence regulators to blunt the agency’s power.”

(…but oversight of their fellow Congresscritters? Not so much…)

Happy Thanksgiving, Adam and other swamp reporters (and KT if reading). Here are two links to past KT’s T-Day posts:
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http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/11/25/1000-words-thanksgiving-commemorative-edition/
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http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/11/25/1000-words-happy-thanksgiving-edition/

Picture Caption: Obama backed by nameless Secret Service agents prepares to address the press corp

The Religious Right, still trying to win the War on Teh Gayness.

“A coalition of religious right groups has announced that they will boycott the next Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) if the gay conservative group GOProud is allowed to attend.

They’ve posted their letter to the CPAC organizers online, demanding that teh gays be expelled from their midst — including this absolutely hilarious section citing William F. Buckley’s expulsion of the John Birch Society from the conservative movement:

Exclusion of GOProud would not be without precedent in the modern history of conservatism. In 1962 William F. Buckley, Jr., called on the Republican Party and the conservative movement generally to dissociate themselves from the John Birch Society. There was no doubt then that the Birch Society embraced such principles as anti-communism and limited government. Yet Buckley and others rightly recognized that there were views its founder and leader possessed, and transmitted to the organization, that, as he wrote in the pages of National Review, were “far removed from common sense.” Buckley concluded, “We cannot allow the emblem of irresponsibility to attach to the conservative banner.”

A political generation ago, the John Birch Society embraced conspiracy theories about President Eisenhower, challenging his anti-communist credentials. Today GOProud describes Jim DeMint’s culturally conservative views as “bizarre.”

Why is this so funny? Because last year, of course, the John Birch Society was a co-sponsor of CPAC. And they’ll be back with an even bigger presence next year…”

“500 words” –
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Turkey to Obama: “Here’s my birth certificate? Can I have the pardon now already?”
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Scooter Libby to Turkey: “Good luck getting your pardon.”
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Turkey: “Screw the Tea Party. I’d really like to see some government intervention to keep my ass off the dinner table, thank you very f’ing much.”
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This is the Salahi’s latest disguise to enter the WH.
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TSA Agent 1: “Ok, who’s going to do the patdown?”
TSA Agent 2: “You. I just eat those things, I don’t fondle ‘em.”
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(and of course) Turkey: “I hope Sarah Palin is NOT on the death panel. If she is, will someone please tell her I voted for Bristol?”
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(I wonder how Jennifer Grey really feels about Bristol.)

The practical application of the GOP agenda is hitting a few rough spots.

“DeMint and Coburn, two leading conservatives, are calling on fellow Republicans to support letting the subidies expire as a way to prove the GOP is serious about reining in government spending. Just as the battle over earmarks did, ethanol subsidies could put GOP Senators who have supported them in the past — such as Grassley and Orrin Hatch — in an awkward spot, driving a wedge between them and conservatives who want a harder line on spending.

Now Grassley has responded to our story, firing off an angry Tweet at DeMint and Coburn, asking them rhetorically if they’re also willing to back the expiration of tax subsidies for the oil and gas industry…[...]

With Coburn throwing down the gauntlet and saying not even subsidies for the oil and gas industries should be off the table, it seems like there’s a clear opening here for an unorthodox alliance between conservatives like DeMint and Coburn and green groups who also condemn such subsidies. It’s unclear as of yet how hard DeMint and Coburn will push this crusade, but Coburn in particular does seem pretty serious.”

(angry Tweet? eeesh.)

The Senate GOP’s long, painful earmark moratorium finally comes to an end.

“It’s been about a week since Senate Republicans agreed to impose an earmark moratorium on themselves. How’s it going to so far? Not well.

Senate Republicans’ ban on earmarks — money included in a bill by a lawmaker to benefit a home-state project or interest — was short-lived.

Only three days after GOP senators and senators-elect renounced earmarks, Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl, the No. 2 Senate Republican, got himself a whopping $200 million to settle an Arizona Indian tribe’s water rights claim against the government.

Kyl slipped the measure into a larger bill sought by President Barack Obama and passed by the Senate on Friday to settle claims by black farmers and American Indians against the federal government.

Kyl’s office insists the senator’s earmark isn’t an earmark. It’s just a specific spending provision Kyl quietly inserted into an unrelated spending bill that would direct funds to people in his state.”

more “500 words” –
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No wonder turkeys get nervous this time of year when they hear sht like this:
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TSA Agent 1: “What’s the best way to smoke a turkey?”
TSA Agent 2: “Use a high-powered rifle with a scope. They’re so skittish it’s a b1tch to get close up, so don’t even think of using bow and arrow.”
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TSA Agent 1: “Just relax. It’s only a cavity search.”
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Bristol: “Mom! What do I do with this metal funnel?”

The Other Klein, showing how our medical costs compare with other countries’ costs.

(with charts!)

“Here are four graphs from the International Federation of Health Plans tracking what people in other countries pay for various medical services and items, and what we pay. Note that the American number manifests as a range, while the others don’t: That’s because in other countries, the government gets one price, while in our country, an array of insurers get many different prices.[...]

The most positive spin you can give this data is that we’re paying too subsidize innovation for everyone, and though that’s not ideal, it’s better than that innovation not happening. The less positive spin is that we’re just getting ripped off.”

Hey, TARP isn’ t costing as much as I thought it would.

“The Treasury Department on Tuesday updated its projections for the cost of the 2008 Troubled Asset Relief Program, saying that for the first time the amount of funds that has been returned to taxpayers exceeds $250 billion.[...]

TARP was created to be a $700 billion program, but much of the money wasn’t used. The Dodd-Frank financial overhaul law essentially capped the amount of money that could be used at $475 billion. ‘Nearly 70% ($477 billion) of the original $700 billion has been repaid, offset with profits, or canceled,’ Treasury said on Tuesday.

Treasury projected that more money would continue to come in through the program, and it reiterated an October estimate that the ‘overall lifetime cost’ of the program would be roughly $50 billion.”

(yes, it’s still a lot of money, ‘tho)

Krugman compares how well Ireland and Iceland are digging themselves out of their economic messes.

“Almost two years on, the joke is on the jokers: despite epic irresponsibility on the part of its bankers, on a scale that makes Irish bankers look like Jimmy Stewart, at this point Iceland actually looks a bit better than Ireland.

I wrote about the surprising resilience of Iceland a while back. Since then, Ireland has had a bit of growth, while Iceland had a modest setback in the first half of 2010 (partly thanks to the volcano). Using Eurostat data, we now have…[s]lightly worse (but within measurement error) GDP performance in Iceland, but substantially less bad employment performance.[...]

What’s going on here? In a nutshell, Ireland has been orthodox and responsible — guaranteeing all debts, engaging in savage austerity to try to pay for the cost of those guarantees, and, of course, staying on the euro. Iceland has been heterodox: capital controls, large devaluation, and a lot of debt restructuring — notice that wonderful line from the IMF, above, about how ‘private sector bankruptcies have led to a marked decline in external debt’. Bankrupting yourself to recovery! Seriously.”

“The letters are the strongest signals yet of how the new House Republican majority plans to use its oversight powers to hobble elements of the Obama agenda.”
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Unlike Obama the House Republicans heard and understood the voice of the people which is the polar opposite of the Obama agenda.
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Arrogant, deaf and against Americans- the core of liberalism

Mother Earth’s ecological clock is ticking.

“Of those countries signing onto the so-called Copenhagen Accord, 85 made pledges to reduce their own greenhouse gas emissions and participate in international programs to help developing countries slow the rate of growth of their emissions.

Are the two pledges compatible? If all 85 countries fully lived up to their promises, would the increase in global average temperatures stay below 2 degrees, or even below 1.5 degrees, as many of the most vulnerable countries are demanding?

Alas, no, according to the most thorough assessment of the Copenhagen promises to date, a study conducted by the United Nations Environment Program with assistance from climate modelers and statisticians from Europe, Mexico, the United States and several other countries. The report, released on Tuesday, found that even if all the pledges were met according to strict accounting rules, it would only achieve about 60 percent of the reductions needed to meet the 2 degree target.

The study appears a week before nearly 200 nations gather in Cancún, Mexico, for the next round of international climate talks.

The gap between what the announced programs would achieve and what scientists believe is necessary to slow global temperature increases is equal to the entire greenhouse gas emissions of the European Union in 2005 or from all the cars, trucks and buses on the road that year.”

Maybe when the Other Klein gets off his skateboard he can find a chart that shows why “doctors” from other countries come here and work as technicians instead of physicians? It might have something to do with passing the Boards.
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Maybe when the qualified doctors quit/retire when there income is cut, Klein will recommend the TSA guards to replace them since most are now practicing gynecologist and proctologists. We will get those nasty costs down.

“the amount of funds that has been returned to taxpayers exceeds $250 billion.[...]”

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Returned to taxpayers? When do our checks arrive?

“TSA Agent 1: “Just relax. It’s only a cavity search.” ”

FTW!

Dirty Harry is back to his old tricks of putting up garbage legislation giving it a cuddly name and hope nobody notices. Cooperation Act? He should be sued for false advertisement.

Liberals never seem to tire of finding ways to bankrupt this country

Having survived a near-death experience on Election Day thanks largely to massive donations from labor unions, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is paying back his benefactors. The Democrat from Nevada says that during Congress’ lame duck session he will try to once again force through a measure giving police and fire unions the upper hand in dealing with local communities.

Reid will seek a cloture vote on the Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act, which despite its name has little to do with cooperation. Rather, the bill would be a federal clone of Michigan’s disastrous Public Act 312, which is blamed with ruining the finances of scores of communities, including Detroit, and pushing many to the brink of bankruptcy — that’s you, Hamtramck.

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The bill would make it easier for police and firefighters to organize labor unions and force all officers to join, even in right-to-work states. That’s a brazen usurpation of state authority, and very likely unconstitutional.

In Michigan, where most major police and firefighters are already unionized, the largest impact would be in rural areas, since the law would also likely apply to volunteer fire departments. That would put most of those volunteer outfits out of business, and destroy an important grass-roots community protection network. These volunteers are often highly trained individuals who provide the only defense for their neighbors’ homes and property.

But the worse part of Reid’s union-buttering bill is that it would codify in federal law a state act that Michigan must get out from under if communities are to regain control of their finances.

Public Act 312 has been horrible for Michigan. The act — as would the Senate bill — requires that contract disputes between public safety unions and municipalities go to binding arbitration. The arbitrator is not required to consider a community’s finances when ordering a settlement, and would not be under the federal legislation, either.

This provision has severely limited the ability of local government to control operating costs. And it’s reduced the incentive of the unions to bargain. Why agree to a compromise contract when an arbitrator might award you the whole enchilada

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20101124/OPINION01/11240315/Editorial–Union-payback#ixzz16DjVQuvk

And the First Tourist continues his whirlwind trek. I guess it’s hard to hear the concerns of the great unwashed American public over the engines of AF1. In defense of Obama he will only have 2 more years of being able to do this

The average American could buy a house for the amount of money it takes to run Air Force One every hour.

The U.S. military has provided an updated estimate on that cost, first published by a taxpayer watchdog group and confirmed by FoxNews.com, and the number is staggering — $181,757 per hour. That’s the price tag for shuttling around President Obama, who as it turns out has spent more days abroad in his first two years than any other president.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/24/military-pegs-hourly-air-force-one-cost-at-180g-as-obama-sets-travel-record/#ixzz16DqnDhxZ

Now will we hear the same screaming and whining about obstructionism, non-partisanship and “party of No” nonsense from the left? Not likely. SInce liberals are still operating under the delusions that they still think they know better than everyone else and let the people be damned

Pelosi’s new mission: Block Obama deals with GOP

JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON – Hers was the face on the grainy negative TV ads that helped defeat scores of Democrats. His agenda, re-election chances and legacy are on the line.

Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, chosen after a messy family feud among Democrats to remain as their leader in the new Congress, and President Barack Obama share a keen interest in repairing their injured party after this month’s staggering losses.

But Pelosi’s mandate is diverging from the president’s at a critical time, with potentially damaging consequences for Obama’s ability to cut deals with Republicans in the new Congress.

Their partnership is strained after an election in which Pelosi and many Democrats feel the White House failed them. They believe Obama and his team muddled the party’s message and didn’t act soon enough to provide cover for incumbents who cast tough votes for his marquee initiatives.

Pelosi will lead Democrats “in pulling on the president’s shirttails to make sure that he doesn’t move from center-right to far-right,” said Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., a co-chair of the liberal Progressive Caucus in the House. “We think if he’d done less compromising in the last two years, there’s a good chance we’d have had a jobs bill that would have created real jobs, and then we wouldn’t even be worrying about having lost elections.”

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation/washington/20101124_ap_pelosisnewmissionblockobamadealswithgop.html

Expand Your Vocabulary: ‘Debtcropper’

“Today, the debts do not involve liens against crops. People in modern America carry student loans, credit card debt, and mortgages. All of these are hard to pay back, often bringing with them impenetrable contracts and illegal fees. Credit card debt is difficult to discharge in bankruptcy and a default on a home loan can leave you homeless. A student loan debt is literally a claim against a life — you cannot discharge it in bankruptcy, and if you die, your parents are obligated to pay it. If the banks have their way, mortgages and deficiency judgments will follow you around forever, as they do in Spain.

Young people and what only cynics might call ‘homeowners’ have no choice but to jump on the treadmill of debt, as debtcroppers. The goal is not to have them pay off their debts, but to owe forever. Whatever a debtcropper owes, a wealthy creditor owns. And as a bonus, the heavier the debt burden of American citizenry, the less able we are able to organize and claim our democratic rights as citizens. Debtcroppers don’t start companies and innovate, they don’t take chances, and they don’t claim their political rights. Think about this when you hear the calls from ex-Morgan Stanley banker and current World Bank President Robert Zoellick and his nebulous mutterings pining for the gold standard. Or when you hear Warren Buffett partner Charlie Munger talk about how the bailouts of the wealthy were patriotic, but we mustn’t bail out homeowners for fear of ‘moral hazard’. Or when you hear Pete Peterson Foundation President and former Comptroller General David Walker yearn nostalgically for debtor’s prisons.”

The 2-degree target is significant because (according to some models), after 2 degrees we will enter a positive feedback loop and then no amount of action by humans will reverse the process.
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At that point, the only two options will be (a) suck it up, or (b) massive geo engineering using technology we haven’t invented yet.

I do hope that one of Palin’s campaign pledges will be never to fly AF1.

Freeinpa,

So it’s your opinion that the American people are opposed to the creation of an agency designed to protect them from the worst abuses of the credit card companies? Could I see some polling that says that?

you betcha, freep, nothing worse than those greedy police and firemen demanding a living wage.

I am going to suggest to you that what is hurting Michigan’s towns and cities is not that they are payting thier policemen too much but that the auto industry has been in free fall for at least four decades (I was struck, visiting Detroit in in 1977 , by how much trouble the Motown area was in). You and your ilk, of course, would have let the auto industry die out altogether, I have little doubt. I can only imagine how annoyed you are that Obama’s bailout, while not perfect, has generally worked and that hundreds of thousands of Michigan taxpayers still have jobs, and taxes to pay.

Regardng the impact of this legislation on the smaller rural communities (which should not be under the kind of stress that the larer towns are), they will survive, probably similar to the way my relatively small town (population 12,000) does – by creating a small core of full time professionals for the fire department but retaining the volunteer ancillary force. There is also the option of creating district or county based department in those cases where towns are too small to support an effective force. The Republic will survive.

“you betcha, freep, nothing worse than those greedy police and firemen demanding a living wage.”
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This is pathetic even for a liberal. I love the quaint term “living wage” which translates to whateverf the union thinks it is.
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“but that the auto industry has been in free fall for at least four decades”
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Isn;t that interesting, auto industry in Detroit was hell bent to give auto wagers a “living wage”. Just like the steel and airline oops! bankrupt too,.
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“by creating a small core of full time professionals for the fire department but retaining the volunteer ancillary force.”
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Another prime example of liberal know-it-allness as localities have no say but mandated by federal government who don’t have to foot the bill.
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The republic will survive? Remains t be seen. States, cities and locals are already underfunded to the of trillions of dollars with no way of paying it without anymore mandated payments, all of course in the name of “living wages”— at somebody else’s expense.

Despite all the bile spilled in her name she may still be more qualified than the Community Organizer turned Tourist. Although I doubt she will see the inside of AF1 except as a guest.

Still draining the Swamp

Former Obama campaign advisor arrested for soliciting sex from minor

Rep. Steve Rothman (D-NJ) fired his chief of staff Robert Decheine Tuesday after his arrest last week on a charge of soliciting sex from a minor.

Forty-eight-year old Decheine, who was a senior adviser to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign in 2008, was arrested in Gaithersburg, Maryland last Friday during a police sting.

He was released after posting a $15,000 bond.

The Gaithersburg Police Department said it caught eleven people in a sting targeting people interested in sex with minors.

Freeinpa never bothers with facts, because they’re usually on the opposite side of what he asserts to be true.
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In this case, the American people support a consumer protection agency on financial products by nearly a 2-to-1 margin.

Consumer advocates are strongly urging the Senate to include a powerful consumer protection office in sweeping new financial regulations. The new poll shows support increased from 57 percent in July 2009 to 62 percent in April 2010. Meanwhile, opposition dropped from 39 percent to 34 percent.

As the article notes, support for the CFPB steadily increased, so it’s likely even more popular now than it was back in April.
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http://www.hillpundit.com/blogs/on-the-money/banking-financial-institutions/91767-poll-support-growing-for-consumer-protection-agency
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Once again — freeinpa is wrong, wrong, wrong. He has no integrity, and he has no intelligence. No wonder he’s a conservative.

Always good to see freeinpa here to be reminded that he’s a lying sack of sh!t whose word means nothing.
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Please, tell us again how it’s liberals who have no integrity.

deconstructiva: Thanks for posting the infamous Sarah Palin turkey pardon/slaughter video. It is a classic must view video coupled with the WKRP turkey drop. “Oh the humanity.”
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http://vodpod.com/watch/2583965-wkrp-turkey-drop

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/family-research-council-labeled-hate-group-by-splc-over-anti-gay-rhetoric.php?ref=fpa
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The Family Research Council has been labeled an hate group for their anti-gay invective by the Southern Poverty Law Center. They have a history of extremist views that contribute to the Limbaugh, Fox Propaganda Network, right wing axis.
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This will set the rw foaming. But, I have great respect for Morris Dees and his work. They have almost alone done more to defang the KKK than any other entity.

“500 Words”

Bristol Palin reprises her routine from DWTS.

Happy Thanksgiving folks. If you’re driving for the holiday, be careful. If you’re flying, go for the pat down guy in the wife-beater t-shirt. He has magic hands. It’s worth the wait.

kevin Its nice to see you here too. Seems you have no problem with integrity issues since your entire life is a lie- the backbone of liberalism

Examples of the kindness of some on the right:
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/11/lurid_and_corrupt.php?ref=fpblg
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Dragging Obama’s children into the airport security fray by that good Christian Mike Huckabee.
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http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/nov/22/alabama-senator-stalls-ferschke-bill/?partner=RSS
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Jeff Sessions holds up the reunion of a widow and child of a Iraqi veteran killed in action with her in-laws.
Nice Beauregard.

The SLC- hate and racism for profit.
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They also list Nation of Islam and New Black Panther Party. Yes the same NBP party that are our post-racial president and his administration dropped the case after they won it.
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Your upset about Limbaugh, Fox etc but you (and the left) remain unconcerned about our government who supports the activities of known hate groups,

http://blogs.motortrend.com/rush-judgment-5957.html
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Motor Trend takes on Limbaugh for his criticism of their endorsement of the Chevy Volt. Very funny.
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“Just remember: driving and Oxycontin don’t mix.”

“Next up was a clip from Mike Huckabee in a really gutter-minded, scurrilous voice daring President Obama to take his wife and two daughters to National Airport and have them get an aggressive pat-down in full view of the public if he wants ‘our’ wives and daughters to submit to the same”
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In case you have had you head up a body cavity his sentiments have been expressed by conservatives, liberals, men and women.
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Obama uses his kids as a prop when its convenient and if any reporter had any sense they would ask Obama the same question. The stuttering from our most brilliant President would be mind-boggling and revealing. The left can dance and obfuscate about what they derogatorily refer to as profiling but their would be less wasted resources, better security and less inconvenience for a majority of Americans.
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But then the left doesn’t want to upset people with a stated goal of killing us.

Article from Reuters showing US health care lacking.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_healthcare_world;_ylt=Ang8cXH0hwLVr_A7rtpqd50H_b4F;_ylu=X3oDMTM1MjV0cG5tBGFzc2V0Ay9zL25tL3VzX3VzYV9oZWFsdGhjYXJlX3dvcmxkBGNjb2RlA21wX2VjXzhfMTAEY3BvcwM2BHBvcwM2BHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDd29ybGRjb21wYXJp

neither does liberalism and free enterprise

freeper: Linkies please to actual documentation of your “facts”.

freeper: When do our refund checks arrive for the off budget preemptive war in Iraq?

Hooray for Nancy.

apr2563, I was killing some time before dinner and reading over some threads. Patrick lost a bet on the elections to 3xfire3 and that’s why he’s gone. I think it was for a month. 3xfire3 lost a bet with me and he’s out for a month too.

Thanks sacredh for the info. Now if our friend hovering above you, freeinpa, had as much integrity.

So just to be clear: You think the President (of either party?) should not ride in AF1?

is that a finger?

So a congressional staffer gets pinched, and you take it as a sign of deep corruption on the part of all Democrats?
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I’m sure you’ll feel even more strongly about how this reflects on Republicans then, right?

Tom DeLay, one of the most powerful and divisive Republican lawmakers to ever come out of Texas, was convicted Monday of money laundering charges in a state trial, five years after his indictment here forced him to resign as majority leader in the House of Representatives.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/25/us/politics/25delay.html?hp

feminist trailer trash sucking on the gubmint tit…

The Obama administration “supports” the New Black Panther Party as much as the Bush administration “supported” the Ku Klux Klan.
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Christ, you’re such an a$$hole. I’m almost glad you welched on our bet and stuck around this site. You’re a daily reminder of how 80% of modern conservatives are raging a$$holes.

“neither does liberalism and free enterprise”
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Liberalism is the only thing that keeps free enterprise from being crony capitalism, the public scarcity of the former the reason we have so much of the latter.
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Good to read you again, sacredh. “…[W]orth the wait…” indeed.

shepherdwong, before I left work this morning I was rubbing myself, pinching my nipples and moaning. The boss asked me what the f**k I was doing. I told him I was practicing for a screener job at the airport. He told me to get the hell out before I made a mess.

Freeinwherever, if you don’t think you are getting the cavity search you deserve, then call me.

“…before I left work this morning I was rubbing myself, pinching my nipples and moaning. The boss asked me what the f**k I was doing.”
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Another great reason to be self-employed. No questions.

Careful free. Seems ragdullah is getting bored with just f@cking goats.

Apr,
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‘Doctor’ Earl told him

Apr: leaving profession and opting out of some services

http://www.physiciantrends.com/2010/05/how-the-healthcare-reform-bill-may-affect-doctors-in-the-future/

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/business/retirementspecial/02health.html
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Hippo did you ever answer is it species or body type?

I don’t recall Bush saying we would receive money back unlike Obama who said taxpayers received money.
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Don;t confuse your BDS (Bush De-ranged Syndrome) for what the nonsense that the most brilliant President ever says.

Early tryptophan fog? No where did I say he should not ride AF1. Instead of flying around mostly touring and campaigning he should be addressing the problems that they have.

Scratch that. That is an addition by subtraction. When he is off flying around he is not forcing more nonsense on us.

kevin:

Just to make your head explode even more. If DeLay is guilty then not only jail but he should lose his federal pension as well. If it abusive prosecution, the same.

Now why is Rangel still collecting tax dollars and then a pension?

Well that’s better than 100% of liberals that are. And you are the lead sphincter.

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I am sure we will find out eventually the hi -jinx the racist Obama/DJ have done.

Yes and the goats are hoping to have something to be thankful for

“Liberalism is the only thing that keeps free enterprise from being crony capitalism”
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Of course and that explains a takeover of HC and handing GM & Chrysler over to the unions because liberals just love free enterprise. Only they think free enterprise means everything should be free like HC and education

“Of course and that explains a takeover of HC and handing GM & Chrysler over to the unions because liberals just love free enterprise. Only they think free enterprise means everything should be free like HC and education”
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In reality people back things up with facts, in your world it’s pulled out of your @ss
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Have a great thanksgiving

“Hippo did you ever answer is it species or body type?”
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You sure is the cutest bully ever. If it isn’t implying someone being less of a man it’s if that person is fat.
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You’re cute and priceless. Have a great thanksgiving.

Was that a goat? She seemed to know you very well, two thirds. For a very long time, actually. Since you were a very very small baby. In fact she said she had to put you up for adoption, so she could spend more time on her back maintaining her crack habit. In more ways than one.

hippooath: freeper is just a really unpleasant, bitter person who probably was a failure as a bully. Freeper your links are to one site that conjectures and another that is a rw shill for those against HCR.

Wow! With that humour free, you and your monkey glove puppet twothirds sucks could make a serious dent in the KKK T & E budget next year by working the southern trailer park circuit. Just one problem. I bet twothirds wishes you had bigger fingers.