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My Continuing Education
No columnist nails every call.  Here’s one I got wrong—and why I should have known better.

By Joe Klein

Columnists are paid to have opinions. Sometimes those opinions are wrong. Those two sentences are as obvious as a sunrise, but usually unspoken by my fellow opinionmongers. I can point you to many weeks of prescience and sheer genius in my work since I arrived at TIME in January 2003. But I think we’d learn more if we took a look at one of my goofs: I supported George W. Bush’s idea of partially privatizing Social Security, which he tried to enact after he was re-elected in 2004. This was a close call for me at the time; it seems positively idiotic now that we’ve experienced the Great Recession — and the idea of private investment has finally regained proper perspective. Investment is about risk; Social Security is about certainty. A fair amount of certainty is crucial when it comes to retirement. Why, you might ask, was I blind to this simple proposition at the time?

Well, two reasons. The first was a matter of courtesy and optimism: I always try to give a newly elected President the benefit of the doubt. This is especially difficult — and all the more necessary — when it’s a re-elected President whose policies seem misguided. I had written column after column about the bloody futility of Bush’s war in Iraq — and don’t get me started about the demonstrably foolish supply-side philosophy that spawned his tax cuts. Still, he was going to be my President for the next four years; my fellow citizens, and many of my readers, had voted him in. The partial privatization of Social Security was, he said, the top domestic priority for his second term. This seemed bold and politically risky. Scaring the elderly about cuts in their retirement benefits is one of the oldest tricks in the book, but Bush truly believed that if people could invest retirement savings in the market, they would end up with larger pensions.

And so did I, albeit with a truckload of caveats. I came to this belief the hard way, by overreading 30 years of experience as a journalist. Much of that time had been spent on urban issues, especially the failure of traditional liberal social programs to alleviate poverty. Indeed, welfare — Aid to Families with Dependent Children — as it was then constituted seemed a system of perverse rewards that intensified poverty, encouraging poor women not to marry, not to work, not to make sure their kids showed up at school and so forth. Their children were making and having babies prematurely, with no sense of responsibility. A discrete culture of poverty — in which people didn’t look for work even when the economy surged — had taken hold. An essential feature of this culture, it seemed to me, was passivity.

One possible answer to the problem of passivity was choice: if parents were given the choice of which school their child could attend, for example, they might bestir themselves to take a more active role in their kids’ education. I first saw this principle at work in East Harlem in the early 1980s, where parents were offered an array of schools with different curriculums for their children. The results were mixed, but it was lovely to see beaten-down people taking action, taking control of at least one public aspect of their lives for the first time.

I became besotted with the notion of choice, which was another way of saying I became besotted with the idea of markets. If you gave people a choice, the best public products — schools, job-training programs, health care services and, yes, retirement plans — would rise to the top, and average folks would be empowered to become more active, and therefore better, citizens. I still think it’s a pretty good principle.

But there are limits. Social-service markets have to be strictly regulated. Even in Chile’s groundbreaking social-security privatization plan, which I looked at on a visit, individuals were only allowed to invest their retirement savings in a handful of very cautious government-approved plans. There was never any talk of that kind of regulation in Bush’s scheme, which was one of my caveats. I missed the biggest problem of all, though, because — like most Americans — I was raised in good times. Markets could tank. Retirement savings could be wiped out. The function of Social Security was — like food stamps — to provide a floor. It needed to be recession-proof.

And so, belatedly, I’ve realized that there are two types of social programs: those that are designed to raise people out of poverty … and those, like Social Security, that provide, yes, a safety net when the bottom falls out. The programs that seek to raise the poor often work better when people are given a choice; those that provide a net need to be as simple and reliable as possible. In this case, the name said it all: Social … Security. It was an essential lesson in the continuing education of a political columnist.

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  • deconstructiva

    Happy upcoming T-Day, Joe, but I wouldn’t call stuart implacable (I would with rusty, but I digress). KT’s work (here and elsewhere) has pleased him….
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    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/12/19/senate-the-deal-looks-done-on-health-care/
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    Your world view and his are different, that’s all.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    Joe, thanks for the honesty, but I still take issue with this general idea:
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    I became besotted with the notion of choice, which was another way of saying I became besotted with the idea of markets. If you gave people a choice, the best public products — schools, job-training programs, health care services and, yes, retirement plans — would rise to the top, and average folks would be empowered to become more active, and therefore better, citizens. I still think it’s a pretty good principle.

    ·
    “Self Regulating” markets, or the free market, or whatever you want to call it is as big of a pipe dream as pure communism. And while we’d all love for any of these ideas to just work they don’t. And you are therefore right to determine that Social Security should not be based on the market, but you’re wrong that the “Free Market” is a good principle.
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    The main problem with with market systems is the belief that people make rational decisions in their own self interest and that these decisions will lead to the best possible results. I’ve had this discussion many times over the past several years and this is where it always ends up. While Markets may be appropriate for some circumstances, it is very clear that they are not safest or reliable means of doing anything. Markets are corruptible & breakable on a higher level than government institutions which are easy to scrutinize in comparison.
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    Maybe we have to agree to disagree, but at least we agree now that Social Security shouldn’t be privatized.
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    +1 Point for humanity in general.

  • lupercal5

    bravo.
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    i like you better when you don’t scream and shout at perceived intellectual inferiors.
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    and it takes so much for anyone to take an introspective look in public, especially when your job and social circle demands you be right all the time.

  • michaelfury

    “I can point you to many weeks of prescience and sheer genius in my work”

    ——————————————-

    Remember this one from 30 December 2009?

    “I am not saying that they could have prevented 9/11…but they might have. And so it is truly disgraceful for Republicans–King, Hoekstra, Cheney et al–to be attempting to politicize this foiled terror attempt, especially in a year when the U.S. intelligence community successfully thwarted a number of terrorist plans.”

    That’s not “sheer genius”, Mr. Klein.

    This is “sheer genius”:

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/obama-backs-expiring-patriot-act-spy-provisions/?intcid=postnav

    “The Obama administration has told Congress it supports renewing three provisions of the Patriot Act due to expire at year’s end, measures making it easier for the government to spy within the United States.”

    “These are the three provisions due to expire:

    *A secret court, known as the FISA court, may grant “roving wiretaps” without the government identifying the target. Generally, the authorities must assert that the target is an agent of a foreign power and/or a suspected terrorist. The government said Tuesday that 22 such warrants — which allow the monitoring of any communication device — have been granted annually.

    *The FISA court may grant warrants for “business records,” from banking to library to medical records. Generally, the government must assert that the records are relevant to foreign intelligence gathering and/or a terrorism investigation. The government said Tuesday that 220 of these warrants had been granted between 2004 and 2007. It said 2004 was the first year those powers were used.

    *A so-called “lone wolf” provision, enacted in 2004, allows FISA court warrants for the electronic monitoring of an individual even without showing that the person is an agent of a foreign power or a suspected terrorist. The government said Tuesday it has never invoked that provision, but said it wants to keep the authority to do so.”

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/points-of-failure/

  • allthingsinaname

    “Aid to Families with Dependent Children — as it was then constituted seemed a system of perverse rewards that intensified poverty, encouraging poor women not to marry, not to work, not to make sure their kids showed up at school and so forth.”
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    Yea you still do not know what you are talking about. “Back then” my family received such aid.

  • stuartzechman

    Joe Klein:
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    (in my most gracious literary voice possible)
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    Thank you very, very much for responding to commentary.
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    You write:
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    I still think it’s a pretty good principle.
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    I think that you’ve taken an important step in being able to discuss publicly that conclusions based on ideology are sometimes wrong, whether they be principles of my movement liberalism, the Project for a New American Century’s neo-conservatism, or your DLC-Third Way centrism.
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    Also, it seems to me that, to a certain degree, honest public discussion has been hampered by centrists’ political marketing of themselves as “pragmatists, not ideologues.” That sort of posture makes it difficult for Third Way centrists to say things like “it’s a good principle…but not the most important, in this particular case.” Today you have apparently overcome that tendency, and the attendant honest policy discussion is quite valuable.
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    You write:
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    I became besotted with the idea of markets
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    I’m pro-capitalism, Joe. I’m a movement liberal, and I think that choice, and markets, and individual decisions on what to consume and produce –freedom– are great, in principle.
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    But movement liberals have different ideas about the limits of markets, and about what constitutes the best relationship between the state and the biggest market participants than you Third way folks do.
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    In Ed Kilgore’s recent piece “Taking Ideological Differences Seriously,” he was able to overcome that New Democrat tendency to speak only in terms of “pragmatic vs ideologue” as you have here, and consequently told the truth (albeit from his side, the center side of the center-left coalition).
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    Kilgore writes

    http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-plank/taking-ideological-differences-seriously
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    The latest intra-progressive dustup over health care reform displays a couple of pretty important potential fault lines within the American center-left.
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    To put it simply, and perhaps over-simply, on a variety of fronts (most notably financial restructuring and health care reform, but arguably on climate change as well), the Obama administration has chosen the strategy of deploying regulated and subsidized private sector entities to achieve progressive policy results. This approach was a hallmark of the so-called Clintonian, “New Democrat” movement, and the broader international movement sometimes referred to as “the Third Way,” which often defended the use of private means for public ends.
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    To be clear, this is not the same as the conservative “privatization” strategy, which simply devolves public responsibilities to private entities without much in the way of regulation.
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    Now clear as this distinction seems to “New Democrats,” there are a considerable number of progressives who think it’s largely a distinction without a difference, in education policy and elsewhere. And we are seeing that fundamental divergence on opinion on other, more prominent issues right now. On the financial front, the Obama administration reflexively pursued a strategy of regulation and subsidies for the financial sector, without modifying the fundamental nature of financial institutions, even as critics on the left argued for nationalization (at least temporarily) of key financial functions. At the more popular level, critics of TARP from the left joined critics of TARP from the right in deploring “bailouts” of failed financial institutions, even though the two groups of critics held vastly different views of the right alternative course of action.

    Similarly in the health care reform debate, the Obama administration pursued legislation that utilized regulated and subsidized private for-profit health insurers to achieve universal health coverage. This approach was inherently flawed to “single-payer” advocates on the left, who strongly believe that private for-profit health insurers are the main problem in the U.S. health care system.
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    …there’s now a tactical alliance between conservative critics of “ObamaCare,” who view the regulation and subsidization of private health insurers as “socialism,” and progressive critics of the legislation who view the same features as representing “neo-feudalism.”

    To put it more bluntly, on a widening range of issues, Obama’s critics to the right say he’s engineering a government takeover of the private sector, while his critics to the left accuse him of promoting a corporate takeover of the public sector. They can’t both be right, of course, and these critics would take the country in completely different directions if given a chance. But the tactical convergence is there if they choose to pursue it.

    For those of us whose primary interest is progressive unity and political success for the Democratic Party, it’s very tempting to downplay or even ignore this potential fault-line and the left-right convergence it makes possible. It’s also easy to dismiss critics-from-the-left of Obama as people primarily interested in long-range movement-building rather than short-term political success; that’s true for some of them. But sorting out these differences in ideology and perspective is, in my opinion, essential to the progressive political project [emphasis mine].

    As Kilgore so correctly says, sorting out these differences in ideology the ideology that led you to your conclusion that, as you put it in 2005:

    The President has merely stated the obvious, that reductions [in Social Security benefits] will be necessary. Reid…made the absurd comparison between Bush’s very conservative investment-account proposal and Las Vegas gaming tables.
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    Bush’s private investment accounts, combined with a reduction in benefits or higher taxes, is one way for baby boomers to lighten the burden of our retirement upon our children. There are other ways, but none without pain. A far more profitable—and absolutely necessary—reform would be a market-oriented overhaul of Medicare, but Dems just say no to that too.

    , sorting out that ideological difference is essential as we go forward, especially now, as we address the prospect of altering Social Security and Medicare based on the Deficit Commission’s recommendations.
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    It’s not just you, Joe.
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    We movement liberals have noticed from out here that the entire edifice of the Democratic party and the Beltway media establishment is suffused with this ideology, and populated mainly by people who are still “besotted with the idea of markets.” One could make the argument that, for the political press corps, that ideological intoxication is extreme, so much so that, since everyone is drunk, nobody notices much.
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    Since you are apparently capable of honest, productive self-analysis, let us hope that this becomes the new norm in your profession, where ideology and cherished principle can be discussed openly, so that we’re all better informed for the discussion.
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    Thanks once again for responding to commentary, Joe, I really mean that.
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    And Happy Thanksgiving to you, too.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    The Left received it’s answer to cooperation with the so called “centrists” when the public option was dropped from the health bill. The Left is better off seeking a home outside the Democratic party. “Centrism” has polluted the concept of “moderation”, turning it from an ethical concept into a mathematical one. Democrats demand the loyalty of the Left during campaigns and then berate and insult them once they are in power. It is time to realize that the Left is not welcome in that party.

  • lepidusxvi

    Good stuff, you never see people do this and a lot of people are wrong a lot of the time.
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    That said, we probably could have done without the sheer genius qualifier at the top. Isually it’s best if the writer isn’t the one to give themselves such an accolade.

  • stuartzechman

    In the midst of my praise of Karen Tumulty, I managed to refer to Ceci Connolly as “execrable.”
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    Thanks for finding that commentary piece of mine, deconstructiva, I had a nice laugh!

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Very gracious, Joe. Do keep in mind what Stuart’s larger point is, though. It took me quite a while to understand it–because there is so much Orwellian language bandied about. “Markets” that are not markets. “Private sector businesses” that are actually operating in the public sector. “Choice” where there isn’t any.
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    My confession is that I was persuaded by folks like Victor Fuchs and Alain Enthoven that the “free market” PPGP approach to health care was clearly better than the failed fee for service model, combined with insurance only for in patient procedures. The “market” would create an incentive for cheaper, more effective preventative care, lowering costs and improving mortality and morbidity.
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    It turned out that such a system creates an incentive for choosing your group roster carefully, rather than treating them effectively.
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    The moral is not that people do not respond to incentives in making their choices. The moral is that you have to remember that all the participants, including the service providers (the banksters and the HMO corporations) also respond to incentives. And those incentives are perverse wrt the policy goals.

  • deconstructiva

    You’re welcome. Good times here last year. I hope Karen is well pampered at WaPo and quickly rising up the ladder. If not, maybe TIME can do the “prodigal daughter” thingy and bring her back.

  • http://sambrasel.wordpress.com cyclist007

    Question: What is the difference between

    “The first [reason for supporting privatization] was a matter of courtesy and optimism: I always try to give a newly elected President the benefit of the doubt.”

    and

    “During the first 8 months of any presidential term, I am naive, gullible, lazy and easily rolled by corrupt politicians, and they know it. During this time, I’m really nothing more than a sycophant.”

    Answer: Nothing.

  • http://jgardner.wordpress.com/wp-admin/profile.php Jon

    Joe,

    Please tell me you didn’t just write “I had written column after column about the bloody futility of Bush’s war in Iraq.” Do the words “the right decision at this point” remind you of anything?

  • pelhamite1

    Just started reading the book “Freefall” by Joseph Stiglitz (my second favorite economist after Senor Krugman), only 50 pages in, but I recommend it to everybody. Not surprisngly, he keeps coming back to the issue that got him his Nobel Prize – namely, that free markets are nearly always undone (or imbalanced) by information assymetries. Thus, people buy financial instruments about which they know quite little, not realizing that seemingly safe investments rest on a rickety foyundation of unstable mortgages. The gap between the information that people generally get about financial products and their true complexity has now become so great that there is a real question as to whether a genuine free market can exist in the financial sector.

    Meanwhile, thanks to you, Joe Klein, for acknowledging fallibility, thanks to Stuart Zechman for being “implacable” (I would actually use the word “relentless”), as well as grape crush, deconstructiva, GumOnShoe and all the rest. May your Thanksgiving be rewarding and relatively Troll (and Palin) free.

  • allthingsinaname

    I am still very upset with your characterization of Families with Dependent Children statement. A blind, ridicules, assumption about the people who obtain such aid. Do you have any numbers to back up your assumptions? How many families used this aid to put their lives back together again and then moved on? Surely not all of us or, even half of us continued on aid.
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    Why not say the same thing about entire communities whose sole purpose is support an unnecessary military base some place? How about Muti-National Corp. who survive off of Government contracts or the Military Industrial Complex.
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    Why not say the same thing about Politicians whose sole purpose is to leverage their “public Service” (?) to write books, become lobbyist, in short make money?
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    Can I stretch it to include you?
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    It is all welfare Joe.

  • allthingsinaname

    You still haven’t excepted responsibility for your stance on privatizing SS. You blamed those on Aid to Families with Dependent Children for your beliefs. Sort of like the GOP blaming immigrants for unemployment don’t you think?
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    Rationalize it away Joe, it still doesn’t excuse you.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    : D

    Happy thanks giving.

    Also, while I have never done more than cursory research on the internet, (I’m willing to admit that I take a casual hobby-like interest in these things) the book sounds interesting and I may look into it, even though my tastes generally lean to fiction if I’m going to invest that much time into reading.

  • allthingsinaname

    You have excepted, but haven’t accepted.:)

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    Allthings: I totally agree. There is a disparaging image of the “welfare recipient” being a single mother with three or four kids–many, if not all having different fathers. Ironically, though, at least here in PA, the largest and fastest growing welfare population happens not to be the single mother with kids, but those over 85 yrs of age. Granted, these people don’t get cash assistance, which is what most think of when they think welfare, but the elderly in PA often recieve the other services of medicaid and food stamps.
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    I am not saying there are no young people who are otherwise employable on welfare, but most of those people do use the welfare system as a step up to provide a semblance of financial security during hard times of no work. And yes, while it does sound cliche, there are proven examples of two and three generation welfare families. For some people, albet a very small minority, welfare had become a way of life. The reforms that Clinton had put into place were meant to stop those kind of abuses and for the most part they had.

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks for the recommend. I am aware of Stiglitz’s work, and will look forward to reading that book.
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    …And thanks for taking the time to read through my (sometimes repetitive) commentary, it’s very appreciated.

  • shepherdwong

    Indeed, welfare — Aid to Families with Dependent Children — as it was then constituted seemed a system of perverse rewards that intensified poverty, encouraging poor women not to marry, not to work, not to make sure their kids showed up at school and so forth.
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    Because women, poor or otherwise, only do those things for money. I’ve always thought that the honest failure of “conservatives” and centrists to understand public policy was a direct product of their dismal understanding of human psychology.
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    Anyway, glad to hear you’re still ready to learn. That’s a talent most people lose at a much earlier age, those who have it in the first place.
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    Happy Thanksgiving all.

  • apr2563

    This may be unnessarily cruel Joe. Salon has had an opinion piece that has run over the last few days. It is called “War Rooms Hack Thirty” by Alex Pareene.
    Grape_crush posted a link to it yesterday.
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    http://www.salon.com/news/war_room_hack_thirty/index.html
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    In my opinion, it is dead on. The 30 hacks listed reinforce that designation almost everyday. It is their smugness in their vaunted expertise, their laziness in researching the facts, and the waste of what might be their talent (Jonah Goldberg excepted) that degrades journalism.
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    I believe their contributions do more harm than good because the Village pundits shut out other voices. What might real experts contribute?
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    Please read it Joe. It might be painful or you might brush it aside. But, read it and you will see there is a certain consistency in the critiques.

  • apr2563

    correction: unnecessarily

  • bobell

    Try looking up “hyperbole” in your Funk & Wagnalls.

  • kansachusetts

    Perfectly stated, gumOnShoe. I want to frame that comment.

  • James, Los Angeles

    It was a magnificent bill of particulars on the biggest hack columnists in Washington. I was sad to see Joe Klein there. Years ago it would have been utterly justifiable, but not so much any more. We have seen Mr. Klein evolve into a much better and more introspective columnist and blogger, and it was a hard road for a guy who was flying so high on the mutually masturbatory self-congratulation that we see among the elite of Washington.
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    What a shock it was for Joe to receive feedback from outside that very, very insulated little world where he resides. This from late 2006 through 2007 and he received his daily bad reviews from his commenters on the new blog Swampland. It sent him reeling for awhile.
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    To his credit, he stayed at it and shared a few things along the way — his moving tribute to his very best friend, we shared a Memorial Day (as I recall) poetryfest, and very slowly his humanity was revealed, and he was humbled. He occasionally admitted error. That is no small accomplishment in such a public way. I grew to admire the man.
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    Mr. Klein clings to some blind spots to be sure — his irrational, deep-rooted hatred of unions, especially teachers unions, being the most frustrating for me. But any more I tend to see those blind spots as flaws in an otherwise admirable man. I myself, for example, cling to my hatred of Walter O’Malley for the Chavez Ravine thing – no water fountains and rudeness to the old cowboy Gene Autry. Vin Skully refusing to announce final scores of the (old) Los Angeles Angels games. I really should let that go, after these 45 years. So should Joe.
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    But if you want to make a list of the biggest hacks in the Beltway, and have Richard Cohen and David Broder and Dana Milbank and Mark Halperin and Maureen Dowd on it, Joe Klein does not belong on that list. Definitely not.

  • stuartzechman

    This is the most persuasive defense of Joe Klein I have read to date.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    James, while I generally disagree, it’s good to hear from you.
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    I would acknowledge that there are shades of hacktacularity–Klein does not, as you say, equal Dowd or Halp. It’s like saying Jim Jones = Hitler. There is atrocity and then there’s…

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    BTW Stuart Zechman, “implacable” is quite the step up from “get a life.”

    Soon you’ll be able to deliver a Sally Field speech that Joe really likes you, Stuart Zechman!

  • apr2563

    James, I certainly do not equate Joe Klein with Halprin, Broder, et al. Yet he is still so dependent on the Village incestual relationship.
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    Personally, his blind spot and righteousness about teacher’s unions and their bad influence on the education system is part of the pattern. He has fallen for the coventional wisdom and his solutions are shallow.
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    I am glad he can admit he was wrong about Social Security privatization. How could he have ever thought it was a good idea? How much history does he know?
    I am glad he now knows the preemptive war in Iraq was wrong. But the damage is done. How could he have ever thought it was a good idea?
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    I would just like the pundits to stop wasting print and tv time with their conjectures. Let the experts speak up.

  • gregm91436

    Wow, Stuart Zechman. Your comment had me ranting all over again. A very nice takedown of the indeed execrable Ceci Connolly. And happy Thanksgiving, Joe. Thanks for being someone who reads his commenters and learns from them. And yeah, you *definitely* have earned your way out of hackdown. Alex got that one wrong.

  • herby002

    And mine, before there was that program, didn’t.
    I went to school wearing donated clothes that were two sizes too big and shoes a size too small. I spent lunch time in the school library because I didn’t want to go to the cafeteria where everybody could make fun of me about my jelly sandwich lunch.

  • http://nickelit.wordpress.com nickelit

    “Those two sentences are as obvious as a sunrise.” LOL. the sun doesn’t rise – wrong simile, again.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    “…albet a very small minority…”
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    As delusional as it gets. The small minority is actually those who are in desperate need, and who do use assistance as a way to get back on their feet. The overwhelming majority are gaming the system, and take pride in it. Offer them a job and they look at you like you’ve lost your mind. They will always vote democrat.
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    Crawl out from under your rock and have a look see.

  • stuartzechman

    LOL
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    You’re brilliant, JC.

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks so much for reading through all of that!

  • http://theresalicia.wordpress.com theresalicia

    Joe, I had this revelation when my father lost a lot of money in the collapse, almost everything he’d saved and invested. (And he was not a big risktaker– but notice what happened to blue chips.) But no matter what, his $1500 a month arrived from Social Security, and it really has made the difference for him between being able to live in a nice place and homelessness.

    It brought home to me what you said, that “security” is the most important part of Social Security.

  • apr2563

    Here is an illustration of why I have little respect for pundits.
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    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/11/lessons-in-becoming-an-expert.html
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    It’s not that they aren’t experts in some areas. It is their supported egoism that claims they are experts on everything. This drowns out the people who are the real authorities on issues. People like Joe Klein are put forward as liberals. The real liberals are hard to find in the traditional media.
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    So as long as Joe Klein takes advantage of his liberal designation and continues to purport to be an expert on everything, I still hold him in low regard. Admitting a mistake that he made doesn’t amend the fact he made the statements. Those words had consequences. Just as his comments on the war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, unions, and other issues have been given too much weight among the Villagers, he continues to contribute to the echo chamber.

  • http://sample71549.wordpress.com sample71549

    Just read your column ” A Careless Man”. You’re an idiot. You make it sound like Clinton was doing something about Al-Qaeda. If he had done anything during his presidency, maybe things would have been different.

  • perrywhite1

    If the Republican Congress had allowed Clinton to do anything about Al Qaida (See: Successful “Wag the Dog” propaganda meme), maybe things would have been different.”

    Fixed it for ya.

  • perrywhite1

    I agree with the defenses of Mr. Klein above, especially the excellent post by “James, Los Angeles.” I don’t believe Mr. Klein has any business on the Hack 30 list, if for no other reason than he is a very natural and accomplished writer whose prose I enjoy reading from purely an aesthetic perspective. (And I do wonder where Charles “I Haven’t Said Anything New in 20 Years, and What I Do Say Is the Same Tired GOP Lies Over and Over” Krauthammer was.)
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    Speaking of lies, that’s what I want to talk about, although it’s easy and fun to slide into the pros and cons of the Hack 30. Back on subject, what I’d propose to Mr. Klein is that, while I’m delighted to see the light dawn, and am impressed and amazed to see this public mea culpa, part of me wonders “where have you been?”
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    The GOP has been an implacable foe of Social Security since its inception. But they were completely ineffective at getting any non-rich person to even contemplate repealing Social Security when they were playing by the rules — that is to say, arguing their point with facts without resorting to hysterical lies and vicious smears of their opponents. Or maybe I should say “before the enormous Right Wing Media Machine ™ existed to repeat their hysterical lies and vicious smears until they began bubbling into non-Fox/non-Rush media outlets and the brains of the low-information voter.”
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    Because that’s where we are now, primarily because of a few lies that have become conventional wisdom, especially among the Village people who make up most of the commentariat. And I’d ask Mr. Klein why he didn’t notice or comment on them before.

    What are those lies? So glad you asked.
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    1) Social Security and Medicare are the main cause of our gigantic deficit, and you can’t be serious about reducing the budget unless “hard choices” are made about entitlements. Buzzz! Thanks for playing! Social Security isn’t a guilty of exploding the budget, because it isn’t part of the budget process. Will some of our commentators PLEASE start pointing this out? SS was deliberately set apart as its own mechanism. A number of things caused our enormous deficit, primarily things beloved by the right — two wars fought on credit, tax cuts for the rich, military spending more than the rest of the world combined, etc. But NOT NOT NOT Social Security.
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    2) Social Security is in crisis. It is not. Not remotely. Social Security is currently enjoying a SURPLUS, which I almost never hear mentioned on the TeeVee, and if NOTHING AT ALL CHANGES BEFORE 2037 — which, of course, is ludicrous — it will start showing some red ink THEN. But the GOP has discovered that if they scare the bejeesus out of people, then “crisis thinking” may allow changes that are otherwise unthinkable. Like privatizing Social Security, so that it won’t be either social or secure. But, seriously, Village people, please start pushing back on this “crisis” meme. It is simply not true, and simply raising the cap — which, of course, the GOP is fighting furiously against — would keep Social Security in the black for the rest of the lives of everyone reading this, and beyond. So let’s stop talking about the non-existent crisis, and start asking the GOP to explain why they’re so dead set against raising the cap. Make them explain why they’re against an obvious and budget-neutral fix to their “crisis.”
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    3) Social Security needs to be changed because people are living longer. Actually, wealthy people are living longer. Blue-collar workers are not, so — as the expression goes — John Boehner wants janitors to work until 70 so that rich lawyers can get Social Security into their 90s. The janitor won’t live that long; statistically, he’ll be dead or unemployed long before he’s 70. That’s just so vicious I’m ashamed of any American who espouses it.
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    That’s just three of the lies that are now being repeated in the 24/7 cable new cycle — and not just on Fox — usually without being questioned. The GOP has succeeded, through the “Big Lie Technique” (repeating something untrue loudly over and over until people forget it’s untrue) in making these lies part of the discussion, as “problems” that need to be addressed. And the only way to address them, of course, is to continue to chip away at SS until it collapses.
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    Which, I say again, has been the GOP’s unabashed goal since 1934. Why is THAT not mentioned more? Because for the first time in 70-plus years, they’ve moved the ball forward. And it’s scaring the heck out of me.
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    So that’s why I ask Mr. Klein “where have you been”? Anyone who’s been paying attention knows the GOP has wanted to kill Social Security since its inception. Why are you just understanding this now? And, more importantly, what will you do to counter the lies you once believed?

  • shepherdwong

    So that’s why I ask Mr. Klein “where have you been”? Anyone who’s been paying attention knows the GOP has wanted to kill Social Security since its inception.”
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    Klein’s problem is a simple but devastating one, the same as the rest of the Village: it’s the company he keeps. Once the reactionary types of the late 70s decided to embargo the dirty effing hippies and that lying, corporatist Republicans and other “conservatives” were the serious adults who deserved respect and consideration, the die was caste. Every pundit FAIL and national failing since 1980 has sprung from that fateful choice.
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    Now that the Daddy Party has exposed itself as the radical vehicle for hatred, fascism, racism and the class war waged by the ubber-rich against everyone else, they’ve got quite a conundrum on their hands. They can keep following Republicans down the rabbit hole or make a turn against them. To Joe Klein’s credit, he appears to have decided not to let “conservatives” make him any crazier than they already have.

  • perrywhite1

    I agree with your premise, Shepherd, although I’m shakier on the timeline that you propose. Anyway, it amazes me how many mainstream news outlets treat Republicans like the adults in the room, despite them acting like children having a temper tantrum. Plus, the hosts/anchors will brush off calm centrists as hysterical lefties, despite them being the only people in the room trying to have a grown-up discussion.
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    And ARE there any lefties left in America, hysterical or otherwise? The words “liberal” and “progressive” have been demonized by the right for so long that few will claim them in public.

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