Bi-Monthly Slurpees

The day after the election, President Obama announced that he and congressional leaders would sit down and hash things out on Nov. 18th. If you listen to Republicans on the Hill, that was a premature announcement: they’d liked to have been consulted first before picking a date. If you ask Democrats, that’s poppycock: Obama moved his foreign travel schedule just to accommodate the meeting. Whomever’s to be believed, the so-called slurpee summit has been postponed until the week after Thanksgiving.

The White House was careful to portray the scheduling snafu as a simple mishap that had no deeper meaning. “Bipartisanship has happened,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said of the meeting. “We’re flexible. We’re ready to sit down tomorrow, or on the 30th.”

On the record, Republicans were equally as cordial. “We look forward to meeting with the President to discuss the American peoples’ priorities:  stopping the tax hikes, cutting spending, and helping small businesses create jobs,” said Michael Steel, a spokesman for Speaker-elect John Boehner.

On background, Senate and House GOP aides were less happy with the White House. “The White House did not ask Congressional Leaders before announcing the 18th, and it was never feasible for Congressional Leaders of either party,” said one top aide. “We have privately told the White House that all along. Frankly, the White House dropped the ball on this, first by announcing a date before it was agreed to, and then – when we were trying to fix it – they went incommunicado for ten days during the President’s trip to Asia. This last-minute scramble is entirely their fault.”

Others were still smarting from what they perceived as unfair treatment from the commander-in-chief, particularly his public spanking at their Baltimore retreat last fall. This time around they’re hoping for more of a dialogue and less of an indictment – particularly given the results of the election. “If I were the president, I’d figure out what the Democratic position was on taxes before having a summit,” said another senior leadership aide. “Unless it’s another photo op summit — which it appears to have been. Delaying it increases the likelihood it will be more substantive.”

Clearly, the lines of communication have not gotten off to a good start between the White House and GOP leaders. Back in the times of FDR and Harry S. Truman, the president and congressional leaders met bi-monthly, no matter which party controlled Congress. This tradition continued on and off until the Clinton era on the belief that like in any marriage, you talk to your wife every two weeks even if you think there’s nothing to say.

There’s a lot of mistrust in Washington right now. “There is simply no basis for meaningful bipartisan leadership meetings today,” Brookings scholar and congressional expert Thomas Mann told me. “Republicans are determined to defeat Obama in 2012; they have no interest in negotiating with him in order to provide him any sort of victory. This is a partisan war and the Republicans are playing to win. The only question is how long it will take Obama to accept this reality and act accordingly.”

In his acceptance speech today after his conference voted to elect him speaker unanimously, Boehner said: “The job of the next Speaker is to work to restore the institution… restore it to being the People’s House,” he said. “For the good of our nation, and the hopes and dreams of future generations, we have to get this right. We’re going to move ahead with humility… cheerful in our demeanor, and steady in our principles…. always mindful that the power we hold is entrusted to us by our fellow countrymen and the nation we serve.”

Perhaps as a first step in restoring the lines of communication – if this is truly the goal of both sides — might I suggest the slurpee summit become a monthly or even bi-monthly tradition?

 

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  • apr2563

    Jay, did you read the Must Read posting today by your colleague. There was deep discussion about this POLITCO nonsense. Please read the comments.

  • jsfox

    The revisionist history by the Republicans re the Baltimore meeting is just stunning. Seriously calling it a ambush when they invited him is just beyond the absurd.

  • square1

    JNS: Once again, I feel the need to educate you on our political system.

    First, the Bush tax cuts are about to expire. Poof.

    Second, ANY extension of tax cuts requires that the Democratic-led Senate and the Democratic President sign off. Period.

    The Democrats couldn’t get 75% of their agenda passed when they controlled both houses of Congress and the WH. The idea that the GOP is in the driver’s seat when they only control the lower house of Congress is laughable.

    As it turns out, I do think a deal will get cut on extending the Bush tax rates. Not because the GOP has the power to force the issue, but because the Democrats — unfortunately — want the extensions.

  • spob

    “public spanking”? That’s only because biased reporters like you, JNS, didn’t report the real news from that little encounter. Barack Obama said that the then current version of HCR violated two core promises, namely that you could keep what you have and that nothing would get between a patient and a doctor.
    .
    That very ill-advised comment justified all of the GOP intransigence to date. Of course, no reporter ever saw fit to ask Obama (a) what in the revised version of HCR fixed the issue and (b) what in the old version violated those core promises.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    They’re just sad because he spoke, then took Q&A, and completely dismantled all their BS talking points. It’s much easier for the GOP to bark out their lies on Fox News; when someone who knows facts is there to rebut them, they honestly have no idea what to do.
    -
    Josh Marshall on the reality of how the meeting went down, and on the lies in the Politico article: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/11/thats_the_story_galacticfail_edition.php
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    So was it an ambush? Well, My God, not even close. Here’s the press release from Mike Pence, Chairman of the House Republican Conference, thanking the president on January 13th for “accept[ing] our invitation to meet with the Republican Conference later this month.” And here’s the Politico’s write up from January 12th, the day before. In other words, that’s more than two weeks before these House Republicans who must have spent the month in a sensory deprivation chamber were stunned to see the president’s motorcade driving up unannounced to crash their party. And if they’d forgotten here’s the write-up from The Hill the day before the event …

    Emboldened by an unexpected victory in Massachusetts and frustrated with a “partisan” State of the Union address, House Republicans are eager to meet with President Barack Obama on Friday.
    So here they are all gunned up and eagerly awaiting President Obama’s ambush of them that they didn’t know anything about.

    I have to confess that I find it genuinely distressing that these folks can whip up a heap of blatant nonsense like this and it gets played pretty much at face value when a simple look through the archives of the half dozen or more sites that cover Washington show that the whole idea is laughable.

    -
    But hey, them’s just facts. What does that have to do with anything?

  • nflfoghorn

    “…restore it to being the People’s House”

    .
    Whose house was it, then? Socialists?

  • nflfoghorn

    If the tax cuts expire (agree with your prediction) then it will have the side benefit of actually drawing in more tax revenue, thereby shrinking the deficit. Anybody up there hear of paying your bills off??

  • shepherdwong

    ““The job of the next Speaker is to work to restore the institution… restore it to being the People’s House. For the good of our nation, and the hopes and dreams of future generations, we have to get this right. We’re going to move ahead with humility…”
    .
    He actually said that? No sense of shame or self-awareness whatsoever. What a piece of work.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Ioz:

    Obama’s pose of deliberative sagacity is so plainly calculated to appeal to precisely those older men–the financiers, the generals, etc.–to whom he inevitably defers, even as he casts himself at the center of the decision-making drama….

    Like so many management hacks, Obama enjoys very much the appearance of power, but he violently shuns its actual exercise whenever possible. He likes the corner office, but he could do without all the direct reports. When his term is up, he’ll make speeches to corporate boards, delighting them by recasting in crassly aspirational terms all the things they already believe themselves to know. When he passes on to the great corporate team-building retreat in the sky, his tombstone will read: Here He Lies.

  • hippooath

    Bush spent 8 years restoring white house honor by taking a ball hammer to hits knee caps.

    That about sums up GOPs ability to restore anything.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “Jay Newton-Small is the congressional correspondent for TIME.”
    .
    “If you listen to Republicans on the Hill, that was a premature announcement: they’d liked to have been consulted first before picking a date. If you ask Democrats, that’s poppycock: Obama moved his foreign travel schedule just to accommodate the meeting. Whomever’s to be believed, the so-called slurpee summit has been postponed until the week after Thanksgiving.”
    .
    One side says one thing says another. Who to believe? We have no way of learning.
    .
    Oh well the idea that anything other than- at absolute best- minimalist, centrist policy being advanced the next two years is silly.

  • pryanball

    Although I agree with you on most levels here, there are some individual reports that clearly go too far. Here’s a piece of a bog post from a prominent mommy-blogger that highlights this.

    “Here is why I was sexually assaulted. She never told me the new body search policy. She never told me that she was going to touch my private parts. She never told me when or where she was going to touch me. She did not inform me that a private screening was available. She did not inform me of my rights that were a part of these new enhanced patdown procedures.” – from ourlittlechatterboxes

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Continuing my recent habit (of having nothing to say myself), here’s Ian Welsh:

    This is exactly what is wrong with US journalism. The responsibility of reporters is not to be “impartial”, their responsibility is to tell the truth. Should reporters have been unmoved by the fact that that America was torturing people? Should that not bother them as people? Should they be unmoved by the fact that Bush sold a war based on lies, and millions of people were displaced, killed and injured as a result?

    Is that we want? Sociopaths who have no personal opinions?

    If you taped everyone’s conversations, and intercepted all their emails, the very few people who could not be hung by their own words, who have never said anything that doesn’t sound bad, are exactly the people you don’t want as reporters or bloggers.

    People who are either so self-controlled they never say anything intemperate, or so passionless they have no beliefs that get them riled up are the sort of folks who have nothing useful to say: the sort of folks who don’t challenge a President who wants to attack a country which never attacked the US, has nothing to do with 9/11 and has no weapons of mass destruction.

    This standard, the “court eunuch” standard, is exactly why you have a press corp that is worthless for holding those in power responsible. People with no strong beliefs, or whose ambition or fear is so great they never express those standards strongly, are the sort of people who know that bucking a President isn’t good for your career, and so who cares of hundreds of thousands of people die because you’re a gutless careerist?

  • pelhamite1

    Apparently the representatives elected in the 2008 election, in which approximately 110 million people voted, did not represent “The People” whereas the representatives elected in the 2010 election, in which roughly 75 million people voted, do.

    Then again, what he may have meant to say is “restore it to being the White people’s House . . “

  • pelhamite1

    Just would like to take this opportunity to point out that under the Affordable Care Act I, like the great majority of Americans, (1) get to keep the coverage I have and (2) nothing comes between me and my doctor (unfortunately, given some of the tests he is performing).

    All that has changed is that people like my self-employed brother-in-law can now look forward to a day when he can get health coverage, something he could only dream about under the old system. Which is why the more the President meets with these Republicans, the happier I will be — the falsehoods they peddle (and, frequently I guess, believe ) are exposed for the shibboleths they are.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “People with no strong beliefs, or whose ambition or fear is so great they never express those standards strongly, are the sort of people who know that bucking a President isn’t good for your career, and so who cares of hundreds of thousands of people die because you’re a gutless careerist?”
    .
    That’s what makes this incredibly meaningless example (who scheduled what and when? Who cares) so perfect.
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    It is beyond trivial and STILL we get he said/she said.

  • Cliff

    Does anyone else feel like the Swampland writers have been throwing out just gobs and gobs of meaningless trash the past few days?
    .
    It seems like JNS and Calabresi and Crowley can’t just spout their bobbleheaded nonsense in a paragraph or two, they have to type up a brand new completely wrong thesis every single day.
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    Today was particularly bad. Just REAMS of vapid gossip, all false.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    “We’re going to move ahead with humility… cheerful in our demeanor, and steady in our principles…. always mindful that the power we hold is entrusted to us by our fellow countrymen and the nation we serve.”

    Why didn’t he add he is going to do the bestest he can? Does he have any actual ideas?

    I think Obama will realize it is a waste of time trying to work with these obstructionists when he sees that the more he tries the less likely he will be reelected in 2012.

    The revenge cycle dictates that the Left start doing to the right as the right is doing to them. Everything else is weakness.

  • shepherdwong

    Actually, Michael Scherer had a spectacular day, for him at least. Credit where credit is due…and go figure.
    .
    Otherwise, it’s really the entire political press. I don’t envy them really, they have to keep pretending that Republicans and other “conservatives” are respectable and worthy of consideration. It leads to some down right crazy “journalism”.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    The left can try but it won’t work. They went against the will of the people. We obstructed that.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    From now on everything the right wants to do will require 60 votes in the Senate. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Republicans are determined to defeat Obama in 2012; they have no interest in negotiating with him in order to provide him any sort of victory

    And they are perfect willing to hold the economy hostage in order to do it. What a fine patriotic bunch…..

  • anon76

    @jc- Poniewozik over at Tuned in took advantage of the Koppel-Olbermann dust-up to recently do the analysis of the new media and its pretension to ‘objectivity’ that is so lacking here in the swamp (the analysis is lacking, not the pretension):

    http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2010/11/16/olbermann-jousts-koppel-in-battle-of-high-horses/

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Will of the people:
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    http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/17/cnn-poll-only-one-third-favor-tax-cut-extension-for-wealthy/
    .
    Of course, when your only interested in your own interests it help to thing of ‘the will’ in the singular even though its a clear fiction.

  • kbanginmotown

    I’ve enjoyed your links and blockquotes, JC. Please keep them coming.

  • Cliff

    I’m not a Scherer fan, but he does justify his paycheck every so often.

  • Cliff

    I think Obama will realize it is a waste of time trying to work with these obstructionists
    .
    I thought you were a pessimist about Obama. If he hasn’t realized this yet, what will make him realize it in the future?

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Anon,
    .
    Thanks for that. I’ve long maintained that Team Politics should trade Team Art for JP. Maybe they can package the absent Amy Sullivan and Massimo and a draft pick to be named later.
    .
    On a related note, I just found this, Bill Maher laying into Stewart:
    .

    .
    I’ve yet to get to Stewart-Maddow.

  • ohiolibb

    Actually, Paul, it’s quite simple. If you’re conservative, you’re patriotic, and vice versa. If you’re librul, and anti-american, and vice versa.

  • allthingsinaname

    “Clearly, the lines of communication have not gotten off to a good start between the White House and GOP leaders.”
    .
    Are you sure? Or are you just t5aking somebody’s word for it?
    .
    It maybe interesting, but is it factual?

  • Art Pepper

    “they have no interest in negotiating with him in order to provide him any sort of victory”

    Well, theoretically they have the interests of the nation to look out for… Wait, what am I thinking?

  • herby002

    Something to remember (or learn about):
    Truman
    1948
    The “Do Nothing Congress”
    “Give ‘em hell, Harry!”

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    I am a pessimist about him but surely he will come to understand the right hates him and does not want to work with him at some point. Many of my centrist friends, who have defended him without question until now are starting to waver too, because of his lack of backbone. If he senses he is even losing them he will have to pivot before it’s his ass being escorted out of town. With the blue dogs gone I think we can count on the rest to take revenge on the republicans if they do gain power, and repay them in equal measure for their behavior.

  • kbanginmotown

    “Give ‘em Hell, Barry!” – 2011

  • celador2

    I would like to see more regular meetings like the Slurpee summits. We need to keep open the line of communication that allows them to work together for the common good.

    cel

  • beelkay

    Whenever I read about stuff like the Republicans’ sole goal being the defeat of Obama in 2012 and therefore having no interest in cooperating, I wonder if they remember that they’re supposed to be governing, not waging continuous campaigns. That goes for both sides, of course.

  • pobo1

    I seem to recall a slogan from the last Presidential campaign….what was it? Something first….oh yes, “Country First”. They should all be ashamed of themselves.

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    That was just a slogan. Not to be believed. For republicans its party first; corporate leaders second; then you have reelection goals, purity tests to pass, grand standing for the he11 of it…after a long list of other considerations, we finally get to the “country first” slogan of McCain’s candidacy. We see how “first” even McCain has put this country the past two years.

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  • shepherdwong

    Congrats (kind of), JNS. You earned a post from Digby:

    On the other hand, if you read the whole article, it’s clear that the writer was completely oblivious to what he was saying, so who knows? Maybe even Thomas Mann is a dirty hippie blogger now.

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/forget-slurpees.html

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