On Gay Marriage, President Obama Admits Some Evolution

Adam noted this below, but I think it’s worth reproducing in full the exchange President Obama had Wednesday with a liberal blogger over gay marriage. It reads as if the president is dying to say something, but he knows he cannot for political reasons, which is striking because the White House message on most other things is that they are willing to take political slings and arrows as long as the policy is correct. So, to the tape:

Q And this one is on the issue of marriage. Since you’ve become President, a lot has changed. More states have passed marriage equality laws. This summer a federal judge declared DOMA unconstitutional in two different cases. A judge in San Francisco declared Prop 8 was unconstitutional. And I know during the campaign you often said you thought marriage was the union between a man and a woman, and there — like I said, when you look at public opinion polling, it’s heading in the right direction. We’ve actually got Republicans like Ted Olson and even Ken Mehlman on our side now. So I just really want to know what is your position on same-sex marriage?

THE PRESIDENT: Joe, I do not intend to make big news sitting here with the five of you, as wonderful as you guys are. (Laughter.) But I’ll say this –

Q I just want to say, I would be remiss if I didn’t ask you this question.

THE PRESIDENT: Of course.

Q People in our community are really desperate to know.

THE PRESIDENT: I think it’s a fair question to ask. I think that — I am a strong supporter of civil unions. As you say, I have been to this point unwilling to sign on to same-sex marriage primarily because of my understandings of the traditional definitions of marriage.

But I also think you’re right that attitudes evolve, including mine. And I think that it is an issue that I wrestle with and think about because I have a whole host of friends who are in gay partnerships. I have staff members who are in committed, monogamous relationships, who are raising children, who are wonderful parents.

And I care about them deeply. And so while I’m not prepared to reverse myself here, sitting in the Roosevelt Room at 3:30 in the afternoon, I think it’s fair to say that it’s something that I think a lot about. That’s probably the best you’ll do out of me today. (Laughter.)
Q It is an important issue, and I think that –

THE PRESIDENT: I think it’s an entirely fair question to ask.

During the campaign, Obama said he wanted to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage in federal law as between a man and a woman, and he said he supports civil unions. To read more on this exchange, see Joe Sudbay’s post over at AmericaBlog.

In the press briefing today, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs declined to elaborate on what Obama had meant by the word “evolve.”

QUESTION: Yesterday in a session with bloggers the president said that his attitude was evolving with regard to same-sex marriage. I’m wondering if you can elaborate on that; and when the president might finish his evolution of his thinking and come to a decision.

(LAUGHTER)

GIBBS: Well, I’d — I’d — look, I would — I’d point you to the blogger, I think, posted a — the fairly — the full text of what the president said. I think he went through what his position is. He went through why his position was that.

But, you know, like as the same time he talks to colleagues and co-workers and — and hears — hears them talking about being treated differently, and the president internalizes that.

So I don’t have a lot to add to the answer because I think he went through where he is and what he thinks about it.

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  • square1

    This is a quintessential Obama pander.

    1. Pretend to give a crap about a traditionally Democratic constituency.
    2. ?
    3. Profit!

  • deconstructiva

    Feh, no change, nothing to believe in there, move on. Now get Joe Miller to evolve on this topic and you’ll have something to chat about. Michael, you ARE going to interview O’Donnell about this sim. to Rachel Maddow’s pithy interview with Miller, right? Would O’Donnell support the right of gay witches and warlocks to marry? Or will they have to just masturbate?
    (saw your retweet about her)

  • greenlyfe

    He’s not going to support gay marriage until after 2012. In 2008, in blue California which he carried with a strong turnout from young voters Prop 8 still passed.

    That he’s willing to overturn DADT and DOMA is pretty huge in and of itself; I think he can sell the former but the later will be a big issue in 2012.

  • greenlyfe

    Also I want to make clear I don’t think civil rights should be put to a vote; but I don’t think the POTUS is looking to be Johnson here. That’s why he made a deal with the building on DADT and why I don’t think he’s going to talk or deal with DOMA unless he wins a second term. JMHO

  • chrisdr

    Obama has given wonderful speeches on his support for gay rights. Elegant, beautiful speeches.

    Quite a few, in fact. Enough for a lifetime.

    How about we hold off for awhile on reporting each new hopeful verbalized nuance and wait for some activity first?

  • fhmadvocat

    The first question is why does the federal government have any say in the institution of marriage!?! Marriage is regulated by the states and I don’t know why Congress felt it necessary to over step its bounds and get involved?! Tea Party people are you with me!?

  • Ivy_B

    If MS thought this nuanced statement was worth a post of its own, can you imagine what the noise would be if Obama had made the statement that he changed his mind about DOMA a week before the election?

    Can you say 24/7 coverage? Certainly would be guaranteed to get all the theocrats to the polls. Look what Rove managed to do by getting the question of gay marriage on the ballot in Ohio several years ago.

  • maverick2k9

    MS, Stop perpetuating a narrative that will surely fail – Because Obama will come to a decision soon enough.

  • Ivy_B

    I’m not a Tea Party person, but I’m with you. I’ll even go further — all state involvement should relate to the legal aspects only and be called civil unions for both straight and gay people. Those that wish to have an additional religious ceremony could have one.

  • constantweader

    Obama was for gay marriage before he was against it. I don’t think he’s against it except for purposes of being re-elected. It’s likely this President will do what the last one did — send his wife out first to say she favors gay marriage.

    DADT, thankfully, will die in court or by the hand of Congress &/or Bob Gates. DOMA will lose in court, too. Since gay marriage is being resolved in some states, it really doesn’t matter — except as a moral issue — what the POTUS thinks of it. I expect after November 2012, or maybe even before, depending on the polls, Barack Obama will say of his opposition to gay marriage, “Only kidding.”

    The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

  • apr2563

    Amen to that Ivy. I know one must not mention Europe here or the rw banshees start screaming, but is common in Europe to have a civil ceremony and if you choose, a religious ceremony.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    It reads as if the president is dying to say something, but he knows he cannot for political reasons
    -
    Glad you were able to sneak some psychoanalysis into a three-sentence post!

  • Ike Jakson

    It’s just more of the same Obama, just doing a second term for Jimmy Carter.

    http://ikejakson.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/here-today-gone-tomorrow/

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    B-i-n-g-o

  • maverick2k9

    GO AWAY, BLOGWHORE.

  • textee

    Obamao does support same-sex so-called “marriage”. He just doesn’t have the guts to say so. He’s a little feminist pansy.

    Given Obamao’s support for same-sex so-called “marriage”, he merely nominates utterly lawless, America-hating enemies of the United States Constitution like the racist, self-described “wise Latina” Sotomayor and the militantly anti-military radical Elena Kagan to the federal bench who will invent a “constitutional right” to same-sex so-called “marriage”.

  • kevin

    I know Christine O’Donnell’s campaign is all but dead and buried, but this is priceless:
    .
    http://gawker.com/5674353/i-had-a-one+night-stand-with-christine-odonnell
    .
    I’m not convinced the story is remotely true, but she does look hammered in those photos.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    Kevin,
    .
    Linking to that is wrong on so many levels.

  • kevin

    But how does Reader’s Digest and the Parent Teacher Association fit into this dastardly scheme? And what about the brainwashing unicorns who secretly operate Domino’s Pizza and the Illuminati?

  • maverick2k9

    Somehow Brother Scherer forgot to report this:
    -
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20020425-503544.html
    -
    President Obama released a video Thursday night as part of the “It Gets Better” campaign, a series aimed at supporting gay youth targeted by bullies for their sexuality.
    -
    Or was it not worth reporting?

  • ilikechips

    Kevin dou$he..wrong again as usual.libtards are easy to debunk

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/gawker/trail-anonymous-christine-odonnells-sex-free-pal

  • Exiled_At_Home (formerly Neo)

    Suddenly, you support states’ rights? And what if these states enact laws against gay-marriage? “Then leave the matter up to the people, the states should have no say in marriage!” But, what if the people vote down gay-marriage? “Then leave the people out of it, society should have no say on marriage!” But what then? I’d venture a guess that you only support states’ rights on this matter as a potential means to gain ground.

  • apr2563

    Textee: Take you hateful homophobic comments somewhere else. Why don’t you join your fellow bigot in Arkansas, ex-school board vp, McCance. Fortunately, his community made it so uncomfortable for him he had to resign. The irony is he considers himself a good Christian.
    .
    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/10/28/us-school-official-tells-gay-teens-to-kill-themselves/
    .
    I was raised in the Christian faith and was taught that Jesus offered unconditional love.

  • http://policypotluck.wordpress.com Nick

    I was reading on http://gaymarriage.procon.org that “From 1988 to 2010, public support for gay marriage has increased at a rate of 1 to 1.5 points per year, with evidence to suggest an acceleration of support since 2009.”

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