Another Take On Obama’s Big Mistake

The Financial Times’ Martin Wolf, who is probably the world’s best (and most respected) financial columnist, argues that Obama’s fate was sealed much earlier than Leonhardt suggests below: Back when the Obama Administration decided on the size of the stimulus.

Unfortunately, the Republicans have succeeded in persuading a large enough portion of the American public that if the patient had been left entirely alone, he would be in perfect health today. This is surely a fairy story. . . . The president’s willingness to ask for too little was, it turns out, a huge strategic error. It allows his opponents to argue that the Democrats had what they wanted, which then failed. If the president had failed to get what he demanded, he could argue that the outcome was not his fault. With a political stalemate expected, further action will now be blocked. A lost decade seems quite likely. That would be a calamity for the US – and the world.

And why did Obama not ask for more? One reason is he did not feel he could afford to pick a fight out of the gate with filibuster-wielding Republican moderates like Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins. There was so much more that he wanted to do, including health care reform, a tax on carbon and financial reform. (There is also evidence to suggest that his economic advisers at the time did not do enough to warn him of the long-term risk he was taking with a smaller package.)

Wolf, a master of charts and figures, adds this revealing fact to his analysis: “[F]iscal stimulus was less than 6 per cent of GDP and so accounts for less than a fifth of the cumulative deficits of 2009, 2010 and 2011.” The continuing financial malaise–setting aside the costs of the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003–will likely add far more to the deficit rolls.

To read the Wolf column, which I highly recommend, click here (a free Financial Times registration is required). The story can also be found outside the firewall by searching the headline through Google, “Why US voters are suing Dr Obama.”

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  • andrewinhouston

    Michael,
    Isn’t this exactly what Paul Krugman has been writing for almost two years now? Why is it now so highly recommended after being ignored for so long?

  • nflfoghorn

    I’m still trying to figure out where the “big mistake” was. If you mean he didn’t ask for more, OK fine, but it’s a welcome dose of reality check. We ARE talking about politicians here! The only promised Rose Garden is on the White House lawn. Everything else is subject to reality.

  • chupkar

    I’d still like to know what fantasy land people live in where he is King Obama instead of President Obama and just how they thought Congress and the Senate would EVER have passed anything like the size needed. If that is a “mistake”, it’s not Obama’s mistake.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    • Path A: Ask for more:

    Government take over of the economy! The debt is too large! Financial catastrophe! Unwise spending! Robbing Peter to pay Paul! Obama is an Evil dictator! Obama failed!

    • Path B: Give it a rest:

    The economy isn’t growing! The government should do more! The amount of money spent was a waste! The debt is too high! Obama is a failure!

    • Path C: Never do anything:

    Depression! 8) Obama failed us all!

    What do all these paths have in common?

    Now ask yourself: why?

  • chupkar

    srsly.

  • grape_crush

    …argues that Obama’s fate was sealed…

    What? Did Obama get thrown out of office or something? Last I heard, he still has at least two years left in office.

    If you want to talk about whose fate was sealed, it was the Congressional Dems who chose to water down the stimulus initiative in order to appease a small, vocal conservative base that wouldn’t have voted for them anyway.

  • freeinpa

    “(There is also evidence to suggest that his economic advisers at the time did not do enough to warn him of the long-term risk he was taking with a smaller package.)”
    .
    Once again evidence that the entire team was incompetent to handle the crisis. It is one thing to teach in the abstract, it is quite a different to enact. The Obama team were great practice players but fumbled on game day.

    .
    .
    “”[F]iscal stimulus was less than 6 per cent of GDP”

    I can’t put my hands on the FT chart from several weeks back that showed as a percent of GDP the US spent more than other countries and they have recovered more quickly.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Obama needed to make a choice: either he worked with Republicans in a bipartisan manner or he went it alone. He did neither thinking he was picking the bipartisan technique and they still think they got shafted rather than played. If the Democrats hadn’t decided on the stimulus before talking to the Republicans and then polishing the details, the Republican base wouldn’t have been completely energized within three months of getting spanked in November. As such, they spent the 2 years fighting with the Republican base rather than the Republican party. If the Democrats had instead opted to go it alone, they might have gotten everything to work (ok, big maybe) while still dealing with the Republican base, but at least they would still have an energized base for themselves of people believing that they just got screwed by Republican Demogaugery. Instead, Obama did what everyone complains he does about everything: tried to have it every way and nobody knew what he believed in and he got everything, half-***ed.

  • freeinpa

    Well put. The end result may have been the same since the economy is still in the toilet which is truly the deciding factor. When you go it alone, you get tack with the result. If the Republicans were engaged they would be tagged as well for the ongoing sluggish economy

  • freeinpa

    “Now ask yourself: why?”

    He was in over his head!

  • fhmadvocat

    The problem was Obama was too cautious. He could have tried to pull the Republicans in, but it would have done no good. The fact is the Republicans were going to oppose anything Obama did. Nevermind the Stimulus was 40% tax cuts, the Republicans were going to oppose it.

    It doesn’t matter what Obama would have done, the Republicans were not going to play. If Obama proposed nothing but tax cuts, the Republicans would have opposed any tax cut he proposed because they would claim the tax cut did not go far enough.

    Obama took what he could get. He had to appeal to the ladies from Maine in order to break the filibuster. He was more interested in getting results, even imperfect ones, instead of playing politics like the Republicans.

    The one place where Obama showed hubris, it was he thought his election would change the behavior of the parties in Washington. He was being very naive. Liberals were licking their chops after being in the wilderness for 14 years. Now Conservatives will be licking their chops if (and when) they win big in November. The problem is both sides overreach once they come into power and enact an agenda that the American public does not want.

  • freeinpa

    Clarification

    The other countries have recovered more quickly

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    See, I actually remember January 2009 where Republicans weren’t just quivering in their boots but asking themselves “what do we do now?”. Then they found their rally point when (I honestly think it was Pelosi) got the stimulus bill written before even talking with Republicans and the Republicans went “this is what we can talk about” and didn’t look back. That coupled with the size of the package, it made it a quick win of scaring the bejeezus out of their base. Now, it doesn’t really matter whether the number was 700 billion or a trillion or more, Obama could’ve probably gotten the same sort of concession – cut about 30% off the initial number and get 3 Republican votes – and he ends up with the same problem and it probably works a hell of a lot better. That’s one approach.
    .
    Alternatively, before Pelosi even started writing the bill, he could’ve brought Boehner and McConnell in and said “here’s the ideas we have, what are some of your ideas, let’s see what we can build together”. Get McConnell and Boehner to ask for the tax cuts, put them mostly in and say that this is the Republican contribution. Throw in a few extra Republican ideas at their request. Throw in your spending ideas. End up with a 700 billion bill that both sides have contributed to even though it’s probably more or less the same as the bill that actually came out, only the Republicans have no leg to stand on because 40% of the 700 billion was their idea. They don’t vote for it, remove the concessions, throw down your 400 billion bad policy, good politics bill, say “we welcome further input into this bipartisan effort but we need commitments” and wait them out. They have nothing to work with. Better yet, they may be forced to help sell your accomplishments.

  • liberalmeltdown

    The costs per job of the stimulus illustrates the incredibly inefficiency of government. Any job that requires $2 million to create, obviously is a job that is not needed. But it’s not just those boondoggles that illustrate the failed idea of the Obama stimulus, the private sector could have created over 4 times as many jobs with the same funds. The fact that any economist would want to drain even more capital away from the private sector with a larger stimulus, simply confirms that they are an ideologue and unable to accept that their Keynesian theories have failed.
    .
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/250673/stimulus-814-billion-flop-deroy-murdock?page=2
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    Of the White House’s 100 showcased projects, 90 offer specific employment data. Among these, $7,602,006,850 in stimulus funds “created or saved” 29,957 jobs. Thus, each stimulus position cost taxpayers an average $253,764.

    So, Democrats are fighting unemployment by launching jobs at more than a quarter-million dollars apiece. And if the White House’s upbeat assumptions that I accepted are wrong, per-job costs zoom.

    Compare this lavishness to the Labor Department’s $27.64 hourly Employer Costs for Employee Compensation. Paying one new staffer for 52 forty-hour weeks would cost an employer $57,491. Hence, private industry could create at least 4.4 jobs for the price of just one stimulus position. By this measure, private companies could have spent the aforementioned $7.6 billion to start 132,230 jobs.
    .
    True, 18 of these 90 projects created jobs below this private-sector-cost threshold. Helping a Michigan boat manufacturer expand into wind energy (Project 75) generated 163 jobs at $11,656 each.

    However, 72 of these 90 projects yielded jobs for more than private industry’s $57,491 cost. In fact, seven projects consumed at least $1 million per job created. “Broadband Expansion to Rural Communities” in Kansas (Project 38), for instance, stimulated 17 jobs at $2.9 million each.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    The US went through a 3 year recession. Most European countries didn’t go through nearly that much. He’s referring to the cost relative to the economic losses during the timeframe indicated. Hell, nearly all of the other recessions were due to the collapse of the US economy thus they could power themselves out of the recession by working more closely with other markets.

  • morristhewise

    Not all presidents were as influential as Ronal Reagan, when he spoke politicians listened. The talents of Obama point in a different direction, he is inspirational and has encouraged millions of unemployed workers not to give up hope. Gay youngster who were being bullied got up from the ground after the president promised them that there were better day`s ahead. The nation was lacking a fatherly president who loved us all, he cannot be replaced by an insensitive political leader who is only interested in pleasing lobbyists. Fortunately his affection will be with us for many years, it is no wonder he was awarded the peace prize.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    ^ jobs in a vacuum
    ·
    Like most people juggling numbers around, you don’t consider what the jobs are, what materials might be involved, what kind of training is involved, how the jobs are reported, what length of time the jobs are supposed to last etc.
    ·
    Points of interest
    • Construction jobs require material, material is very expensive.
    • Some money that was used to pay contractors wasn’t reported as jobs created or saved, even when it clearly was benefiting someone
    • A job that takes 5 years to complete, by your bad numbers has already met the private rate. But you don’t think about that. The truth is that a lot of the money that is “accounted” for has merely been dedicated to projects and not necessarily spent.
    ·
    This is not an uncommon argument you are making, unfortunately. But it is a highly dishonest or ignorant one.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    forgottenlord, I remember that being the media story arc. “Republicans: what do we do now?”
    ·
    But if you look at the evidence on all fronts, be it health care or stimulus & quotes from leading republicans it becomes very clear that republicans chose to become oppositionalists and did so from the outset at the expense of the rest of us.
    ·
    Even if you were correct, the Republicans chose their political futures over American wellbeing, and right after the atrocities committed by big business & government that lead us here, it is probably the biggest injustice committed in the last 10 years.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    I think I’m gonna hurl…

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    No, the answer is that the story arc in any case is loved by a particularly large segment of the American politically enthused, and makes for great headlines.
    ·
    Lump in the media’s unwillingness to boringly remind people of facts, or their inability to discern them to begin with and exciting story arc sounds great.
    ·
    The truth is that Obama played into the hands of these story arcs and I don’t see a way he could have avoided them when people on all sides wanted him to follow one of them or wanted something he couldn’t have accomplished that would have led him there.
    ·
    A) Obviously the right would love to call him a socialist and continues to do so
    B) The left wanted things that the current congress couldn’t have passed, however merited they believed them to be.
    C) The people in the middle just want to be secure, and they aren’t. As far as they are concerned, the person at the top is responsible for everything and he’s the easiest person to blame.
    ·
    So, what’s in common? All these people wanted something that lead to or would have lead to Obama failing in their minds. If you look at what Obama wanted, I don’t think he sees himself as a failure, and its purely a matter of perspective. I happen to agree with him. I don’t see failure here. I see bounded success, with a sh!t ton of work to still do.

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    First: as you state later on, the jobs cost $250K each, not $2 million.
    .
    Why have the numbers I’ve heard been in the millions for jobs created? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/12/AR2010011203737.html <– January article saying 2 million – and that was in January!
    .
    Additionally, if you sit back and think about it, it costs more than just a year's salary to get new jobs. My software company is looking to start a new product. Expected cost per position created: $400K, 8X my annual salary. Sure, the broadband project might've cost ~$50 million, but was that because they were paying employees $50 million or because they bought $40 million worth of cables and switches for those 17 employees to install. A bridge being built probably costs $50-$100 million – but it only hires 50-100 people. Why? Because all that concrete costs a lot of money.
    .
    After all, hidden in the stimulus was a plan by Obama to create a huge, naton wide infrastructure project to address the fact that the Army Corp of Engineers keeps giving the infrastructure of America a failing grade. Oh look, a reasonable reason to be spending money.
    .
    Unless you like your bridges falling down.

  • fhmadvocat

    I agree the private sector is much more efficient than the government. The problem is the private sector can’t grow if no one will buy their product. . . . . . . .

    The problem is the Obama administration has done a terrible job selling the Stimulus. They failed to point out that 40% of the Stimulus consists of tax cuts. In addition, it can be argued that it was not big enough to get the economy revved up.

    You could make the argument that the Stimulus should have all been tax cuts, the deficit be damned. But if people are unemployed, who is going to buy your product?

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    gumonshoe: they kicked it off from the outset because they could. They got two kickers to play with before they were sworn in. I thought it was a mistake at the time, I think it was a mistake now – Obama went for a half measure and got screwed on both ends. He’s either all in for bipartisanship or he’s all in for Keynesian – you take your pick on which you’d have preferred, but he did neither and he started his negotiation point from a half measure of “we’ve got some Republican and some Democrat ideas but because the Republicans contributed nothing to the debate, they can say it’s all Democrat”. Same thing with Health Care.
    .
    The other thing to note is that Obama would never, in a million years, have double downed and gone for a bigger package. Why? Because he defined himself in ’04 and I believe that’s where he would always start from. It’s why he started from a position of having made concessions before starting to talk to them. Twice! So my opinion: claiming he didn’t do enough in a Democrat way is pointless because he doesn’t have the personality to. However, he can refine his methodology to one that would’ve strengthened his ability but would’ve still been within the confines of his world view.

  • pelhamite1

    Considering that both the stimulus package and the Affordable Care Act were heavily undermined by the deal making and amr twisting that BHO, Pelosi and reid had to engage just to get the watered down versions that actually passed, I don’t know how people can srgue that Obama should have “gone for more.” On both fronts, he got as much as he could given his need to drag the likes of Nelson, Lincoln, Baucus and (most nauseatingly) Lieberman along with him. Whatever Obama’s powers of persuasion might be, he seems unlikely to have reached more people in decidedly red states such as Arkansas and Nebraska which were not, in any case, terrribly affected by the economic downturn in te first place. Ironically, it is the Blue Dogs who are going to pay the biggest price for the undermining of Obama’s agenda, not the disappointed Representatves of the base districts.

  • liberalmeltdown

    8.1 & 8.2, I didn’t say the all the jobs cost $2 million to create. The average is 250k yes, and construction does involve expensive material. Infrastructure spending is necessary and should be part of government spending. However, with 8 million out of work, we should be looking at the fastest, most efficient way to employ people. It has to be the private sector. The estimate of the private sector creating 4.4 times as many jobs as the stimulus is based on compensation of $57,000 + per year. I’m sure that many of the unemployed would work for much less, therefore the 4.4 is an underestimate.
    .
    There are may other factors that make the stimulus inefficient.

    1. Extraction Cost; cost of collecting taxes and fees.
    2. Displacement Cost;
    3. Negative Multiplier Cost
    4. Behavioral Subsidy Cost
    5. Behavioral Penalty Cost
    6. Market Distortion Cost
    7. Inefficiency Cost
    8. Stagnation Cost

    http://www.atr.org/new-video-outlines-government-spendings-negative-a3702#

  • liberalmeltdown

    And you think people are not justified in saying that Obama is dangerous:

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/10/not-presidential-ingraham-blasts-obama-for-enemies-comment.html
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    Calling 50% or more of Americans his enemies, Obama has hit a new high on the demagogue scale and soon a new low in the polls. But, to use that language and tell Latinos that those that oppose Obama are enemies is a frightening political scumbag ploy. Obama, continues to show he is not the president of all the American people. He is only interested in class and race warfare.

  • Ike Jakson

    Obama always had his own agenda; personal glory was more to him than the Country and even that was not enough. He wanted even more than that; his ego prevented him from seeing Main Street and Small Town America.

    He failed the Country because he wanted to be bigger than the Country.

  • freeinpa

    Yes they spent less recovered faster which tells you the answer about the need to spend.

  • freeinpa

    “Nevermind the Stimulus was 40% tax cuts, the Republicans were going to oppose it.”
    .
    This is a joke. The “tax cuts” were adjustments to the withholding which amounted to $8-14/week. Pelosi spends more on botox per week.
    .
    And as far as if the Repubs would go along we will never find out. The great uniter was the great divider.

  • diecash1

    Another tripe-filled post in your usual style Ike. When are you going to post something containing at least a hint of fact anyway? Two cents would be overpaying for your opinion……..

  • maverick2k9

    MS, No need for a lengthy analysis of a lengthy anlysis:
    -
    I can explain Obama’s BIG mistake in a sentence – he appointed Geithner and Summers to clean up the mess they were partly responsible for creating.

  • apr2563

    Did President Obama die? Is that why the Swamp reporters have been doing eulogies for days now?
    If he is still alive, I believe he has a couple of more years to govern.
    After the midterms you media types will spend a day or two congratulating yourselves on your prophecies and then it will be on to 2016. The Village will be so excited. They can set up new predictions.

  • liberalmeltdown

    When you demagogue your opponent and project how great and wonderful you will be, and then you fall flat on your face, you deserve to have your head handed to you.

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