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–Outside spending is up 80 percent from 2006.

–Ben Bernanke inches toward Fed action.

–Jon Ralston calls last night’s Nevada Senate debate for Angle.

–Lisa Murkowski airs her Stevens footage:

–Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin see shades of McCain in Obama’s ever-shifting messaging.

–One common thread between the foreign money charge and Democrats’ most common play on offense this year is just old fashioned nationalism. Ads like this one from Russ Feingold on outsourcing have been ubiquitous:

–Mitch Daniels floats a value-added tax. His vision of it of course is to replace progressive income tax rates with a broad based consumption tax, but that doesn’t mean it can’t and won’t be used against him later.  Want to see how? Michael Bennet is running this ad castigating Ken Buck for suggesting a national sales tax (no mention of the income taxes it would in theory replace):

–Glen Bolger digs into key House and Senate races.

–And attacks ads are much better in Canada:

Nice.

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Related Topics: 2012 Election, Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Economy, Harry Reid, Miscellany, Republican Party, Senate, White House
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    Obama’s Persuasive Powers on Gay Marriage Manifest in Maryland

    When President Obama endorsed gay marriage earlier this month, the media grappled with two basic political questions: Was his personal “evolution” a case of  a politician transparently following a national trend toward accepting same-sex unions (accelerated, perhaps, by his chatty number two), and would it hurt his re-election chances by alienating socially conservative voters like black churchgoers? Sure, there was a recognition that it marked a gratifying moment for gay marriage advocates—as well as some grumbling about the President’s view that it remains a state issue, not a federal one. But by and large, there were few suggestions that one man, even the President, would shift public opinion on the issue or affect public policy. Based on a new Public Policy Polling survey out of Maryland, it seems this possibility was underestimated.

    Lewis Eisenberg, Major Romney Donor, Accuses Obama Of Demonizing Wall StreetHuffPost Politics

    Cherokee Zero

    Apparently, Massachusetts voters don’t mind that Elizabeth Warren foolishly identified herself as a Native American early in her academic career–it was, apparently, a case of family pride and wishful thinking about a Cherokee ancestor. That’s good. Warren may be the best public figure when it comes to explaining the depredations of the financial industry and [...]

  • certifiablylazy

    “He kicks children in the face. Nice.” Couldn’t have said it better myself.
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    Here, we just go with terrorist sympathizer or America hater.

  • grape_crush

    What did I miss?

    Okay for me, but not for thee.

    “At issue is a $400,000 earmark for the Army Corps of Engineers to conduct a feasibility study. For locals, the taxpayer money would be well spent, which is why leading Tea Party activists like Mike Murphree have endorsed the earmark. Even right-wing gubernatorial candidate Nikki Haley (R), a favorite of the party’s base, wants the federal government to pony up.

    This year, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), another ostensible opponent of government spending and earmarks, requested this earmark specifically. ‘I’m all for change and all for reform,’ Graham told the NYT. ‘But this is where the reality of governing rears its ugly head.’[...]

    South Carolina’s other U.S. senator, Jim DeMint, continues to be a “purist” on these issues, so he hasn’t backed Graham’s request. And as it turns out, the port’s plans won’t proceed unless both of South Carolina’s senators are on board.

    By sticking to conservative principles above all else, DeMint is hurting his constituents and his state’s competitiveness — and wouldn’t you know it, his conservative fans in South Carolina aren’t at all pleased, since they’re suffering the consequences of DeMint’s ideology.

    Of course, they agree with that ideology when DeMint is blocking funding for other people. But with South Carolina poised to lose billions of dollars in commerce and thousands of jobs, even South Carolina Tea Partiers are discovering the limits of their worldview.

  • grape_crush

    Those poor little rich boys.

    “Glenn Beck is calling on his hardworking listeners to donate money to the Chamber. He is literally asking American workers to give their hard-earned wages back to their employers, so their employers can use that money to advocate a public policy agenda that benefits the rich at the (again: literal) expense of everyone else. It’s incredible. It’s such a twisted scheme that it’s easier to believe as a piece of performance art meant to mock right-wing pseudo-populism. Though if it was art, it would be dismissed as overly broad and heavy-handed.

    But Glenn Beck is completely serious. He wants you to send your money off to the Pfizers and JPMorgans of the world, as a gift. For Glenn Beck, it isn’t enough to have a power structure that favors the corporate elite. He wants you to pay for it, too. That’s what passes for populism these days. “

  • grape_crush

    “Yes, voters do care about secret cash funding elections!”

    “It has become an article of faith among certain Beltway inside-game commentators that there’s no way the Dem attack on secret money funding elections could ever have a prayer of working. Surely the issue is too esoteric, too process-y, and too removed from voter concerns about the economy to resonate.[...]

    The poll finds that two thirds of registered voters, or 66 percent, are aware that outside groups are behind some of the ads they’re seeing. This makes sense, since the issue has dominated the media amid the battle over the huge ad onslaught against Dems funded by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Karl Rove’s groups.

    What’s more, an overwhelming 84 percent say they have a ‘right to know’ who’s bankrolling the ads. And crucially, the poll also found that the issue is resonant when linked to the economy. A majority, 53 percent, are less likely to think a candidate who is backed by ‘anonymous groups’ can be trusted to ‘improve economic conditions’ for them or their families. People don’t believe these groups are looking out for their interests.”

  • diecash1

    So Mitch Daniels and Ken Buck support a value-added tax (VAT), eh?
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    Wouldn’t that make America more like those socialist/commie/America-hating Europeans?
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    I wonder if anyone has pointed this out to them? Maybe all of those TPers can look into it.

  • grape_crush

    “What’s more, an overwhelming 84 percent say they have a ‘right to know’ who’s bankrolling the ads.”

    The American Future Fund (AFF) is a prime example of why this non-disclosure is problematic. [...]

    According to FactCheck.org, AFF “expects to spend between $20 million to $25 million on political ads this fall. Federal Election Commission data show American Future Fund has spent $6 million in 16 states in independent expenditures as of Oct. 12.”

    In an article on Tuesday, The New York Times managed to track down one of the group’s major contributors: Bruce Rastetter, ‘a co-founder and the chief executive of one of the nation’s larger ethanol companies, Hawkeye Energy Holdings, and a rising force in state Republican politics.’ [...]

    Of the 14 ‘liberal’ politicians singled out in a list [the AFF] released last month, nearly every incumbent sits on a panel with a say over energy or agriculture policy. Five sit on the Agriculture Committee; four others are on related committees with say. One candidate was a staff member on a related panel.[...]

    …the corn ethanol industry, which is becoming a powerful political and economic force, also receives heavy subsidies from the government and is heavily lobbying for favorable federal policies.”

  • lreed580

    NPR did a report last night re: voter anger over nondisclosure of donors to the outside groups running ads and could not find one voter who was okay with the secret funding of political ads.

    http://www.npr.org

    But once again, on GMA this morning Mr. S. “told” us, voters don’t care about this issue….

  • m0mentom0ri

    “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim”
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    Fox News.
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    http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201010150002

  • grape_crush

    “Well, you see, Willard, in this war, things get confused out there.”

    “At the time, those close to the investigation tell CNN, Stoner just wanted the smoking in his tent and around him to stop. So he went outside his group and reported the drug use to his superiors.

    But that move, and the subsequent beating he endured for being viewed as a snitch, triggered a wide-ranging criminal investigation that has left some soldiers accused of killing innocent Afghan civilians and others accused of posing in gruesome photos with the dead or keeping body parts as war trophies.

    Now the Army is doing everything it can to limit the publicity its own explosive account created.”

  • m0mentom0ri

    If predictions hold, 2010 will be the first election since 1978 where the number of women in the House and Senate decline (currently at 17% or so in both).
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    Is to early to call 2010 “The Year of the Man”?

  • m0mentom0ri

    Americans Underestimate U.S. Wealth Inequality
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    “If you think again in percentage terms, so the top 20 percent, as I said, have 85 percent of the wealth, most Americans want them to have roughly 35 percent of the wealth. You’re talking about 50 percent of all the wealth in the United States, which as you can imagine is a very, very large number. People would like that to be more evenly distributed across people with less income. ”
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    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130395070

  • freeinpa

    While the President and the frothing left have been trying to smear the Chamber of Commerce with innuendo and no evidence, Barney Frank the guardian of all that is right, is taking private jet plane rides and free stays in a mansion and calling it a vacation.

    Barney Frank seems not to have an issue taking gifts ( how else do you describe free lodging in the US Virgin Islands) by someone who could very well have more than a little vested interested in Frank’s Financial Services Committee. I imagine Maxine Waters may be a little offended by Barney’s do as I say not as I do attitude. I guess it does show Frank doesn’t hate all Wall St.
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    It does become easy to see why Barney Frank thought Fannie and Freddie had sufficient financial strength when you look at how he valued the “gift” of the free private jet flight. $1,500 would not get a private jet with the range for a trip from Maine to US Virgin Islands out of the hangar let alone flights to and fro.
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    And you have another sanctimonious Demo from Maine who made this possible. Remember her, the one crying foul of Abramoff? Seems only the little people and Republicans need to play by the rules.

    And Team Donkey is worried about corporations?
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    U.S. Rep. Barney Frank’s GOP challenger is calling on the congressman to release an ethics opinion that Frank says cleared his trip to the Virgin Islands aboard a $25 million private jet owned by a billionaire hedge fund manager.
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    Frank reported the jet ride as a gift in required House financial disclosures – claiming the cost of the flight was $1,500 – but reported no other expenses related to the vacation. Aviation experts say the cost of flying a private jet between Maine and the Virgin Islands would cost as much as $30,000 each way
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    “In the aftermath of the Abramoff scandal, Pingree lobbied for a tough ethics-reform law that would have, among other things, completely banned privately funded travel. When a weaker bill was introduced, Pingree called the drafted bill ‘window dressing.’ It is not clear whether Pingree’s use of [her fiance's] aircraft was limited to the incident on September 17th.” Apparently there were examples of her flying all over the country on this man’s jet. She’s a member of Congress. This is expressly forbidden. The Waterville Morning Sentinel reports the House rules.

  • freeinpa

    “People would like that to be more evenly distributed across people with less income. ”
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    People? You mean the liberal media and class envy leftists. Americans do not begrudge “rich” people wealth. They do however, take exception if that wealth is ill-begotten. The left however, confuses ill-begotten or unlawful with undeserved by their standards.
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    The vast majority of people still believe the American dream is to be rich and free.

  • grape_crush

    But it sounds good until you think about it…

    “To crudely summarize, all federal personal and corporate income taxes, gift, estate, capital gains, alternative minimum, Social Security, Medicare and self-employment taxes would be swept away. In its place, we’d have a large national consumption tax. Since the wealthy spend a small proportion of their income, and everyone else spends far more, it’s an extremely regressive approach to tax policy.

    In Kentucky, extremist Senate candidate Rand Paul (R) was asked about his endorsement of the idea. ‘I haven’t really been saying anything like that,’ he told reporters.

    That’s not quite true.

    An anti-tax group on Tuesday released to The Associated Press a written statement from Paul saying he would support changing the federal tax code to get rid of the Internal Revenue Service, and he would vote to repeal the 16th Amendment. Paul’s statement called the federal tax code “a disaster” and said he supports making taxes “flatter and simpler.”

    “I would vote for the FairTax to get rid of the Sixteenth Amendment, the IRS and a lot of the control the federal government exerts over us,” Paul wrote in a statement verified by his campaign.

    I wonder what would happen if Conway spent the next 19 days talking about ‘Rand Paul’s plan to put a 23 percent sales tax on everything Kentuckians buy — from groceries to gas to medicine.’”

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    No, freep, people in general. A majority of Americans as exampled by the article you didn’t read.

    When was the last time you got a raise, or is it that you’re at the top? When was the last time you gave someone a raise?

  • hippooath

    You really don’t like Barney Frank huh?
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    Seriously, better trolls please

  • newfreedomblog

    Reid lost the debate to Angle

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    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/15/reid-lost-debate-angle/
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    “She won because Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid looked as if he could barely stay on a linear argument, abruptly switching gears and failing to effectively parry or thrust”.
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    Poor ‘ol Harry. Going, going, almost GONE

  • newfreedomblog

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703631704575552462557955610.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories
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    Democratic Funding Fades
    Liberal Groups Lag in Late Efforts to Raise Cash; Less Money for Key Races

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    WASHINGTON—A late effort by Democrats to match record fund raising by conservative organizations has come up short, leaving the party more reliant than usual on the campaign efforts of labor unions.

  • newfreedomblog

    U.S. consumer sentiment unexpectedly dipped in early October to its weakest level since July, with buying plans on the decline, a survey released Friday showed.
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    http://www.cnbc.com/id/39683903
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    Consumers’ assessments of government economic policies fell to the lowest level since U.S. President Barack Obama took office

  • newfreedomblog

    Why Neo-Socialism Just Doesn’t Work
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    http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFLDE69E1AN20101015
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    “PARIS, Oct 15 (Reuters) – Striking French oil refinery workers shut down a fuel pipeline supplying Paris and its airports on Friday and airport workers grounded some flights as protests mounted to derail an unpopular pension reform.”

  • newfreedomblog

    “Do as I say, not what I do”
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    FOOD HYPOCRISY? MICHELLE OBAMA CAUGHT ORDERING CHEESEBURGER AND FRIES

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    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/food-hypocricy-michelle-obama-caught-ordering-cheeseburger-and-fries/

  • newfreedomblog

    “Don’t Ask, We Really Do Not Like Those Homosexuals”
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    SENIOR WH ADVISOR FORCED TO APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING HOMOSEXUALITY A ‘LIFESTYLE CHOICE’
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    White House senior advisor Valerie Jarrett issued a public apology Thursday for off-handed comments she made earlier in the week that many in the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered (LGBT) community took offense to. In an interview Wednesday with the Washington Post, Jarrett referred to homosexuality as a “lifestyle choice.”
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    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-senior-advisor-forced-to-apologize-for-calling-homosexuality-a-lifestyle-choice/

  • newfreedomblog

    TeeVee Tantrums…………..Joy and Whoopie walk off stage.
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    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/live-tv-tantrum-whoopi-joy-walk-off-the-view-set-during-spat-with-oreilly/
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    The faux pas outrage these two idiots showed is nothing short of the left and their little tantrums. Almost what is seen daily right here in the swamp.

  • kevin

    The irony here is that Kilmeade was both borrowing a sentence structure made famous by John Stuart Mill and providing proof of its message at the same time:
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    “Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.”

  • newfreedomblog

    Tea Party Myths generated by the Liberal Extremists.
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    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/what-racism-study-tackles-political-myth/
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    “Charges of hateful racism have been hurled at the tea party movement over the last year, but little substantive work has been done to actually prove these accusations. But a new analysis at the scene of this year’s 9/12 Taxpayer March on Washington –organized in part by national tea party organizer FreedomWorks — confirms that the vast majority of activists are energized over narrower concerns about the size and scope of government and federal spending policies.
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    UCLA graduate student Emily Ekins says she spent the summer in Washington studying the tea party dynamic and working as an intern at the Cato Institute, a libertarian policy think tank. It was at the 9/12 march where Ekins decided to put the rumors of racism to rest.”

  • allthingsinaname

    Smear the Chamber of Commerce? OMG what is the world coming too?

  • newfreedomblog

    Is Hillary Leaving Too???, ahh, so soon!!
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    “WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is meeting with former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to talk about a pending arms treaty with Russia and other issues .
    A White House official said Rice and Obama have a “cordial relationship,” and the president looks forward to Friday’s meeting covering “a range of foreign policy topics.” The official isn’t authorized to speak publicly and insisted on anonymity.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101015/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_rice
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    I doubt they are comparing notes on their respective books, are they?

  • grape_crush

    Just posting the link to Krugman, ’cause the link to the Observer article keeps getting eaten.

    “Meet The Elite”

    (It’s the commoners’ fault that all those bad mortgages were sold, bundled up into securities, given inaccurate ratings, and sold off to pension funds.)

  • grape_crush

    “…not much more could go wrong in the mortgage-backed securities market.”

    “Beyond sloppy documents, the foreclosure debacle has exposed one of Wall Street’s little-known practices: For more than a decade, big lenders sold millions of mortgages around the globe at lightning speed without properly transferring the physical documents that prove who legally owned the loans.

    Now, some of the pension systems, hedge funds and other investors that took big losses on the loans are seeking to use this flaw to force banks to compensate them or even invalidate the mortgage trades themselves.

    Their collective actions, if successful, could blow a hole through the balance sheets of big banks and raise fundamental questions about the financial system…”

  • grape_crush

    Since Congress is basically FUBAR, what else can be done about climate change?

    “I asked that question of people at the World Resources Institute in Washington, who have studied the issue. They looked at existing federal and state regulations and estimated how far they could go toward meeting the Obama administration’s goal of reducing the country’s emissions in 2020 to a level 17 percent below emissions in 2005.

    This goal, Jennifer Morgan of the institute explains, ‘is far from what is “needed” scientifically but represents what the U.S. brought to the international community as possible.’

    The institute estimates federal regulations alone could reduce 2020 emissions to somewhere between 5 and 12 percent below the 2005 level, depending how rigorously they were enforced. Add in state regulations, and the reduction could be 6 to 14 percent.

    It’s not enough. And as economists like Rob Stavins have pointed out, reducing emissions through regulations exacts a bigger economic toll than doing so through a cap-and-trade system or carbon tax. (I addressed some of these issues in a recent column.)

    But if it’s not enough, it’s also a lot more than nothing — especially when you consider that 2020 emissions are now in pace to be 4 to 5 percent higher than they were in 2005.”

  • earljr1

    This is an excellent example, newfreedom, of a closed liberal mindset. Only THEIR opinion is of importance and if they do not get their way, profanity, name calling and a full scale tantrum ensues! Yet they continue to wonder why the majority of Americans are becoming increasingly dismissive of their ideology….. Go figure.

  • freeinpa

    “most Americans want them to have roughly 35 percent of the wealth.”
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    No I did read it. This is what he said above but with no empirical values or exactly what questions were asked. He also explained people did no understand it was higher than that but they did think that was the dream of this country–to be rich.

    It is elitist academics, politicians and liberals who want to set numbers as to who and how much? Pure class warfare nothing more.

  • allthingsinaname

    Interesting, no mention of how or why these people got the loan they could not afford. Why is it?

  • square1

    Again, freeper, people might take you seriously if you had any principles.
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    For example, I defy you to name any benefit that a hedge fund manager could get from Barney Frank that you would be opposed to in principle.

  • freeinpa

    “Seriously, better trolls please”
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    That’s your defense of liberal politicians? Talk about lame and tiresome. You can’t defend the act so its attack the source, denigrate the source or dismiss out of hand.
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    “Smear the Chamber of Commerce? OMG what is the world coming too?”
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    Of course why would you want an organization to promote business and build jobs when you can have bat crap crazy liberals smear them especially over accusations the liberals are actually guilty.

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  • m0mentom0ri

    “smear the Chamber of Commerce with innuendo and no evidence”
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    Y’know what laughable about you, Freepy. All it took was idiot dressed up like a pimp and some doctored video and you were all over ACORN for mucking about with our voting system.
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    When its the execrable “U.S.” Chamber of Commerce, you seem much harder to convince and are demanding a MUCH higher standard of evidence.
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    I wonder why that is? There’s an obvious conclusion that you’re a mindless sycophant blindly following your party’s directives and are completely incapable of independent thought to the point where your responses can be easily predicted by simply looking up what the current GOP meme is on any given topic. Barring additional evidence, I’m gonna go with that.
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    And here’s your @#$% proof: http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/05/foreign-chamber-commerce/

  • m0mentom0ri

    “Charges of hateful racism have been hurled at the tea party movement over the last year, but little substantive work has been done to actually prove these accusations.”
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    Here ya go.
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    “Almost as many – 58 per cent – said that African-Americans and other minorities were getting too much attention from the government, much higher than the national average of 37 per cent, the poll found.”
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    Tea Party survey shows fear of minorities
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    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/52560e54-d0d4-11df-a426-00144feabdc0.html

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    Well, let’s extrapolate then. The American dream is shared by all Americans. So, these people believe everyone wants to be rich.
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    When asked what the perfect society looks like. They say its one that has 35% of the wealth owned by the wealthiest 20%, on average.
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    When we look at the real numbers there’s a 50% difference, where the wealthy own 85%.
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    Meanwhile, 40% of Americans have 0 or negative wealth.
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    So, almost half of the American populace has had its dreams literally shattered. If you look at studies, there is no mobility between generations, so no one who wasn’t born into the dream accomplishes the dream (statistically).
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    Overall, would you say people live in the ideal world they described they want to live in? I’d say no.
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    You say:

    It is elitist academics, politicians and liberals who want to set numbers as to who and how much? Pure class warfare nothing more.

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    And I think that’s a load fracking horse manure. Even if you read the above article, you’ve failed when it comes to literacy .

  • freeinpa

    MoronMom:

    You keep linking to the proof-less ThinkProgress pieces that have been dismissed as laughable even by liberal sources.

    It tells a great deal about you when you seem to think that providing any actual proof and not assumption, nameless sources and other baseless accusations as a HIGH standard. But as shown by Barney, libeal ethics is indeed an oxymoron.
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    Find a hot-button issue, create an angle to raise dark suspicions about your opponent, and run with it—evidence be damned. Sure you may go to hell for it, but you’ll raise your opponent’s negatives!

    This business from the administration about the Chamber of Commerce and foreign funding probably focus-groups well: “Danged furreners are stealin’ our jobs and secretly buyin’ our elections (spit).”

    But it’s awfully thin gruel—almost certainly a bogus story trumped up because Obama & Co. has a bum hand with this economy thing—one exacerbated by his lowball economic predictions when he came into office. Expectations game, dude! That’s politics 101.

    Anyway, let’s look at the report from the Think Progress blog that set this off. It reports that:

    According to legal experts consulted by ThinkProgress, the Chamber is likely skirting longstanding campaign finance law that bans the involvement of foreign corporations in American elections.

    Alas, ThinkProgress doesn’t name any of these legal experts.

    And there’s lots of innuendo here:

    Here’s how it works. Regular dues from American firms to the Chamber can range from $500 to $300,000 or more, depending on their size and industry, and can be used for any purpose deemed necessary by the Chamber leadership. For example, the health insurance giant Aetna has reported that it paid $100,000 in annual dues to the Chamber in the past. But for specific advocacy or advertising campaigns, corporations can hide behind the label of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and give additional money. Last year, alongside their regular dues, health insurance companies like Aetna secretly funneled up to $20 million to the Chamber for attack ads aimed at killing health reform (publicly, health insurance executives claimed they supported reform). Last week, Politico reported that News Corporation, the parent company of Fox News, gave an extra $1 million to the Chamber for its election season attack campaign.

    That’s bad! But ThinkProgress doesn’t have any evidence that the Chamber is taking money on the sly from foreign companies and laundering it to run anti-Dem ads.

    http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/the_press_bats_down_obamas_cha.php?page=all

  • diecash1

    Interesting, no mention of how or why these people got the loan they could not afford. Why is it?

    Many of the loans were so-called NINJA loans — no documentation, no income, etc. They were very profitable for the banks until the industry imploded.
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    You can read more here:
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Income_No_Asset
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    http://www.visioncredit.org/ninja-loans-to-blame-for-financial-crisis/

  • freeinpa

    “”Almost as many – 58 per cent – said that African-Americans and other minorities were getting too much attention from the government, much higher than the national average of 37 per cent, the poll found.”"
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    Only a huge leap of stupidity can take you from 58% thinking they were getting too much attention vs a national average of 37 is racist.

    > So by your reasoning (OK let;’s pretend it exists) a poll showing over 90% thinking Obama is doing a good job with the overall population at 45% makes them racist. Right?

    The ratio of Tea Party to National average is 1.56 while Blacks to National average is over 2.0.

    So you agree with me if you reasoning is correct that most of the racism is actually from the left not the right. While it still is debatable whether the Tea Party is racist the Gallup poll confirms the other.

  • hippooath

    “Talk about lame and tiresome. You can’t defend the act so its attack the source, denigrate the source or dismiss out of hand.”
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    Seriously? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    That’s all you do here. Not once have you answered a serious question or provided anything factual to a debate. You refuse to look at any data that would contradict or show yours as baloney.
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    The irony is as thick as quilt.
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    But you’re right – it is lame and tiresome.
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    Please – better and more iventive trolls. I feel really sorry for you if you don’t paid for what you post here.

  • allthingsinaname

    My point was that the bankers take no responsibility for the failures of the loans.
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    Once again my poor use of sarcasm fails.

  • diecash1

    Yeah, a sarcasm font would help with that.
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    Check out Grape’s post @ 24 on the responsibility of bankers. Seems that some parties think that bakers bear responsibility.

  • allthingsinaname

    Oh Boy! I can hardly wait for the second bailout and another round of $144 billion in bonuses.

  • freeinpa

    I am sure the next remedy will be a call for affirmative action for Congress.

  • freeinpa

    “Meanwhile, 40% of Americans have 0 or negative wealth.”
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    And I assume this is the fault of the wealthy because they unfairly took their share. The consumption glttony that has gone on since the 80s had no affect on that. The explosion in easy credit and mountains of consumer debt is the fault of the rich. Of course you can’t blame the not wealthy, you can never blame the victim in liberalism- there has to be a villain.
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    “so no one who wasn’t born into the dream accomplishes the dream (statistically).”
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    Interesting, so Barack & Michelle were born into the dream. And I guess the tear jerking stories about Sotomayor were lies. I guess you can rationalize anything if you are delusional enough and most liberals are.

  • freeinpa

    “.That’s all you do here. Not once have you answered a serious question or provided anything factual to a debate.”
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    You are even too stupid to understand what you write. But thanks for proving that the liberals defense is attack the source, lie and deny. Your textbook!

  • hippooath

    “You are even too stupid to understand what you write. But thanks for proving that the liberals defense is attack the source, lie and deny. Your textbook!”
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    Hmm
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    No that’s not what my textbook says.
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    But seriously – I do hope you get paid to post here.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    You fail to understand the word “statistically.” That means there are outliers and things that break the trends, but overall people don’t have status mobility in the United States. There will always be exceptions to the rule, but they will be minimal even if the exceptions (celebrities & politicians) are highly visible.
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    And I assume this is the fault of the wealthy because they unfairly took their share.

    Look at the rise in executive pay over the last 30 years while other wages, in comparison remain stagnate, especially when adjusted for inflation. And I don’t know whether you are saying the rich took their “share” as in what they deserved or saying that we’re blaming the rich for taking the rest of america’s “share” as their own. Either way, you’re so far off the mark it isn’t even hysterical anymore.
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    As far as credit. Who exactly offered credit? The wealthy? Oh, and it was offered as a means to pay for things because people couldn’t pay otherwise. And what is the solution, now that we’ve crashed? Oh, yeah… we need to hand out more credit. People need to borrow more money & go further into debt so that someone can spend money to increase demand to fill the fat cats wallets even further. And when that money runs out and they can’t pay their debt because they aren’t paid enough, it’ll be their fault, yet again!
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    This economic system is broken and the wealth gap is all the proof you need.

  • diecash1
  • freeinpa

    “You fail to understand the word “statistically.” That means there are outliers and things that break the trends”
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    After 4 semesters of stats courses in college I have a fair idea of “statistically”. What I also know is that for income, wealth, illness or jail time there is no bell curve in real life. And to believe that it can be accomplished is fool’s math.

  • freeinpa

    Have someone read that textbook to you.
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    No the only pay I get is driving liberals like you to distraction with a reality you refuse to face. Life sucks to be a liberal and after November will only get worse.

  • freeinpa

    Since you wan to to play with numbers, top 10% income earners pay 66% of Federal taxes an down 71% of the wealth. So if wealth becomes more equally distributed then the lower income folks should bear more of teh tax burden– to be fair, right?

    And let;s not forget income does not equal wealth.

  • freeinpa

    “they deserved or saying that we’re blaming the rich for taking the rest of america’s “share” as their own”
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    This is a statement based in youthful ignorance, stupidity and socialism not a free society and capitalism.

    “taking the rest of America” Call a cop that is stealing. Good luck with that. Grow up!

  • freeinpa

    ” the foreclosure debacle has exposed one of Wall Street’s little-known practices: For more than a decade, big lenders sold millions of mortgages around the globe at lightning speed without properly transferring the physical documents that prove who legally owned the loans.

    Now, some of the pension systems, hedge funds and other investors that took big losses on the loans are seeking to use this flaw to force banks to compensate them or even invalidate the mortgage trades themselves.”
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    Little known practices? To who? If its the pension systems and hedge funds, they could be found in breach of fiduciary responsibility and numerous SEC charges that include failure to maintain proper records, inadequate due diligence, inappropriate investments, improper pricing among others.
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    Not sure they want to open that can of worms. If the pensions and hedge funds had no basis for pricing (no rightful ownership) they could be charged with fraud making each of them personally liable for the losses.

    Where were those government and regulatory agencies for the past 30 years that we keep hearing so much about?

  • apr2563

    Adam, thanks for sharing the Canadian ad. The biggest laugh I have had all day.
    Nice!

  • apr2563


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    Chamber of Commerce CEO on the value of outsourcing.

  • apr2563
  • apr2563

    By Killmeade and professed Catholic O’Reilly logic all Catholics are pedophiles, all Irish Catholics (IRA) are terrorists. Actually, all christians are terrorists. Well, lets face it, everyone is a terrorist merely by affiliation.

  • hippooath

    “No the only pay I get is driving liberals like you to distraction with a reality you refuse to face. Life sucks to be a liberal and after November will only get worse.”
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    I hate to break it to you and you can put your pants back on again. What you write here have absolutely no bearing on my life. No impact. Not one word. I mean I get sad that you don’t get paid to be a clueless ideologue, but I laugh everytime you mangle every single talking point and repeat the same drivel over and over then think I’m over here shivering in horror. Scotts honor.
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    So here’s a simple question? What will you do when you don’t win in November? What will you do when you win in November?
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    That’s what I’m interested In, you can keep the rest of the baloney and drivel to yourself because he only serves to reinforce your dillusional self importance nothing else.

  • freeinpa

    “What you write here have absolutely no bearing on my life”
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    Since you responded 4 times to a post of mine I would say it does have bearing on your life.
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    But then you write:
    “So here’s a simple question? What will you do when you don’t win in November? What will you do when you win in November?
    That’s what I’m interested”

    If it has no bearing why is there an interest. Seems the delusions belong to you. Too many voices in your head and in the course of one post you hear several. I’m not your problem.

  • nflfoghorn

    Two toes up :)

  • hippooath

    “Since you responded 4 times to a post of mine I would say it does have bearing on your life.”
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    You know that most of us outgrew dumb psychology like that in our teens right?
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    As for the rest; I’m interested in real answers. Real questions. As suppose to your silly ‘evil liberals’ usual canned stuff.
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    But whatever makes you tingly inside big shot.

  • herby002

    diecash1,

    They think it’s the next best thing to a flat [income] tax. They think if we institute a VAT tax, it will replace the graduated income tax, which will wither away.
    They don’t realize that Europe has the Value Added Tax AND graduated income taxes.
    They think the VAT is just a Federal sales tax, like they (reluctantly) pay to their state and local governments. They don’t understand that the tax applies to EVERY step from manufacturing to sale at their local Tea Party Uniform Store.
    If they don’t like so-called UnConstitutional double taxation, wait until they find out they’re advocating quintuple taxation!

  • herby002

    10.1 – “I am sure the next remedy will be a call for affirmative action for Congress.”
    free,
    If the gNOp takes either house, I am sure there will be a lament that there is NO action in Congress.

  • herby002

    free,

    I suppose those are some serious charges you’re quoting, there.

    Care to give us your links so we can evaluate the truth of your/their charges?

  • herby002

    11.7 – free,

    You say, “”After 4 semesters of stats courses in college I have a fair idea of “statistically”.”

    Would that be Bob Jones University?
    I understand that they offer the following:

    Statistics 101: Proof that all the various authors of the Books of the Bible were each divinely inspired to write the One True Word of God, except the liberal communist socialist ones that we threw out.

    Statistics 102: Proof that the world began 6,000 years ago.

    Statistics 103: Proof that Noah’s Ark is on Mount Ararat, with evidence that dinosaur bones were used for its ballast.

    Statistics 104: Proof that God created apes separate from man, since evolutionists have yet to produce a monkey that can read God’s Word.

    Are they the statistics courses you took, Bunky?

  • herby002

    24.2 – free,

    They were depending on the AAA quality assurances given by the investment ratings companies that, we now know, were bought off by the issuers of the fake securities. (So far, unindicted co-conspiritors, as far as I’m concerned.)

    “Where were those government and regulatory agencies for the past 30 years that we keep hearing so much about?”
    Are you now blaming the regulatory agencies for causing the Great Recession by not reining in the excesses of the “free market”? That’s strange because you and your ilk keep saying that the agencies forced the “free market” companies to cause the Great Recession, and that less regulation would allow the “free market” to “police itself”.

    Rightie, thy hypocracy, it has no bounds.

  • herby002

    apr,

    Thank you! When you post a link like this, please remind us to read the attached posts.
    The riffs on the Fox news ALERT! were hilareous – haven’t laughed so much for a month. :-) :-) :-)

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