Morning Must Reads: Gamesmanship

–Dan Balz and Jon Cohen crunch the numbers and suggest seniors are compromising the Democrats.

The Pew Research Center finds that the widespread omission of cellphones from telephone polling has a more notable effect than previously reported. The issue has gained attention in recent years as more households stop using landlines altogether, but until now, the skew in polling has been found to be negligible.

–Mark Blumenthal notes that while it’s very rare at the state level, many national polls already sample cellphone users. A handy list:

These include, in addition to the Pew Center, ABC News/Washington Post, AP/GfK, CBS News/New York Times, Gallup (both their daily tracking and the surveys in partnership with USA Today), Kaiser Family Foundation, McClatchy/Marist University, NBC News/Wall Street Journal and Newsweek.

–The Connecticut Senate race isn’t really so close.

–The strange 2012 robo-calling begins in Iowa.

–The SEC’s inspector general found no political gamesmanship in the timing or substance of the agency’s suit against Goldman. Darrell Issa wants to see for himself.

–Rep. Scott Murphy runs the ad the White House once upon a time thought every Dem would run on:

–Michelle Rhee jumps straight from the D.C. schools chancellor game to the putting up very campaign-ish websites game.

–Simon Johnson makes his case for further bank regulation couched in the argument that financial crisis leads to fiscal crisis.

–And contractors for Murkowski don’t beat around the bush.

What did I miss?

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Related Topics: 2012 Election, Barack Obama, Congress, Democratic Party, Health Care, Miscellany, Republican Party, Senate, White House
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  • kevin

    The cellphone issue might explain why Rasmussen is so consistently out of step with all the other national polls.
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    As Blumenthal notes, most national polls make an effort to make sure cell-only people are represented, which is important because they tend to be more likely to vote Democratic. Leaving them out can skew a poll 4-6 pts to the Republican side, which is about how Rasmussen falls out every time.

  • Alex Vallas

    I had a call from a “Opinion Research” person who kept trying to get me to agree to his lies and distortions with carefully constructed questions re various political issues. When I corrected him and accused him of trying to distort what I was saying, I commented that he sounded as though he was being paid by the GOP. He then admitted that the “research” was funded by the Republican Party. I told him I thought that was disgraceful..

  • freeinpa

    Despite the best efforts of the media and the left, it seems the public is no longer being fooled. It has been apparent on this site and in general that the extremists were on the left. The false characterization of the extreme left as moderates and everything to the right of Saul Alinsky is extreme right has only convinced the extreme left.

    The moderate rise of the Obama administration was betrayed by their attempt to stuff a leftists agenda that Americans didn’t want.

    This result comes from The Hill 2010 Midterm Election Poll, which found that 44 percent of likely voters say the Democratic Party is more dominated by its extreme elements; whereas 37 percent say it’s the Republican Party that is more dominated by extremists.

    The data surprised Democratic strategists and political experts in a campaign season when much media attention has focused on the battle between the GOP establishment and Tea Party-backed candidates such as Sharron Angle in Nevada and Christine O’Donnell in Delaware.

    http://thehill.com/house-polls/thehill-poll-week-2/124177-the-hill-poll-swing-district-voters-more-likely-to-see-dems-as-dominated-by-extremists-

  • freeinpa

    You cannot make this stuff up. This must be one of those shovel ready projects that the Dems talked about for the past 2 years. They buried this from the public.
    ..
    The question that needs to be asked is this out and out incompetence or unadulterated arrogance? Hey Barney you got some ‘splainin to do. Howe can you put a fraudulent failed entities on the payroll to run a program for other failed banks. Maybe they were counting on their experience as a failed entity.
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    Interesting note in the report is that the vast majority of people are paid by private companies but over half of the money paid to outside contractors.
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    If there is any more evidence needed that these dismal GSE’s should have been put out of their misery and Barney Frank shown the door, this is it!

    The Treasury Department has paid $437 million to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and private contractors to help run the Wall Street bailout program, a congressional oversight panel said in a report Thursday.

    The Congressional Oversight Panel said some of the 96 private contracts for the $700 billion bailout, known officially as the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), raise “significant concerns” and potential conflicts of interest that limit the public’s understanding of the program.

    “The vast majority of people working on the TARP today receive their paychecks from private companies, not the federal government,” the report said.

    Fannie and Freddie have received about $240 million, or more than half of the money paid to outside contractors to help administer TARP, according to the report. The two companies were bailed out by the government in 2008 and continue to rely on taxpayer support.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/banking-financial-institutions/124183-report-fannie-freddie-paid-millions-to-help-run-tarp

  • kevin

    It has been apparent on this site and in general that the extremists were on the left.
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    Tell me, which of these extremists are “on the left”?
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    Holocaust Museum Shooter Reportedly Wanted to Kill Axelrod (Fox News)
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    Highway Shooter Targeted Tides Foundation, ACLU (KTVU)
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    Pilot Crashes Into Texas Building in Apparent Anti-IRS Suicide (Fox News)
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    White Supremacist Kills Three Officers in Pittsburgh (ADL)
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    Abortion Doctor Gunned Down at Kansas Church (Fox News)
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    Knoxville shooting suspect targeted church for ‘liberal leanings’ (Memphis Commercial Appeal)
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    John Patrick Bedell: Antigovernment extremism behind shooting (Christian Science Monitor)
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    (I originally included links for each, but that got the post stuck in moderation limbo. Google the titles.)

  • nflfoghorn

    No, you can’t make this stuff up; Flush already does that job, you just repeat what he says.

  • Paul-no not that one

    I was called by Rasmussen last week for the Minnesota Gov race.
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    Never spoke to a human just press 1 for yes 2 for no kind of questions.
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    After a few pejoratively framed questions about the “bailouts” I stopped taking it seriously.

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    At the end to self identify I answered yes to being a TPer and chose “over 100,000″ for income because there was no higher option. And yes I will be voting for the Democratic candidate Mark Dayton.

  • kevin

    I think I’ve discovered Rusty’s real identity:
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    More here: http://www.stopspewman.com/

  • kevin

    The second episode is even better. The Glenn Beck girl is terrific, even if she seems a little more manly than the guy she’s spoofing.
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  • grape_crush

    What did I miss?

    I’ll but a couple of vowels and solve the puzzle: ‘P_t S_j_k is _ M_r_n.’

    “In what appears to be his first post, Sajak pointed out today that no one in his family, or even his ‘kids’ teachers or the guys who rotate my tires’ is allowed to appear on his show, because there is at least the appearance of a conflict of interest. ‘In nearly all private and public endeavors,’ he continues, “there are occasions in which it’s only fair and correct that a person or group be barred from participating because that party could directly and unevenly benefit from decisions made and policies adopted.”

    So, he asks, what about those state employees who have a greater stake in a vote’s outcome than the rest of us?

    ‘I’m not suggesting that public employees should be denied the right to vote, but that there are certain cases in which their stake in the matter may be too great,’ Sajak writes.”

    (next, Sajak will argue that Social Security recipients shouldn’t be allowed to vote either)

  • m0mentom0ri

    “A Grand Junction billboard depicting President Barack Obama as a terrorist, a gangster, a Mexican bandit and a gay man is getting national attention.”
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    http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/articles/antiobama_billboard_raises_eye/

  • grape_crush

    Making sure the news is properly balanced.

    “The reader is left to wonder who on the gay-rights side is as ‘unbending’ as the lunatics who show up at funerals with ‘God hates Fags’ signs. Maybe there’s a large movement to outlaw heterosexual marriage and kick straight folks out of the military, and I just missed it? Sadly, Amarasingam provides no examples. True, Amarasingam doesn’t explicitly insult gays like his On Faith peers. But make no mistake: Equating gay rights advocates with anti-gay zealots is a slur against those who ask no more than that they be treated the way their fellow citizens are treated.

    Even if you buy the ludicrous notion that Tony Perkins’ attack on gays was necessary to balance out Dan Savage’s efforts to reduce gay suicide, that doesn’t explain the Post’s decision to host several other gay-bashing tirades — or to pass them off as the work of ‘distinguished’ panelists as part of an ‘intelligent’ and ‘respectful’ conversation.

    Just how many homophobes does the Washington Post think it needs to balance out Dan Savage?”

    (Oh, and Savage does have a response for the WaPo:

    http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/10/13/dear-washington-post)

  • m0mentom0ri
  • grape_crush

    Time to get your Picture Pages | Time to get your crayons and your pencils

    “Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), who recently founded the Tea Party Caucus in the House, announced that she plans on holding weekly classes on the Constitution for new members in the next Congress. ‘I’m serious about this,’ Bachmann told Andrew ‘Judge’ Napolitano, inviting the Fox News host to be an “expert” lecturer. ‘Because we have to make sure that they know what it is that we are swearing to uphold.’ [...]

    Moments later, though, Bachmann demonstrated that perhaps she should study up on the Constitution before she starts leading a class on it. When Napolitano — a civil libertarian who believes President Bush committed a felony by authorizing torture — asked whether the government should be permitted to hack into personal emails without a warrant, Bachmann stumbled. ‘I think that’s a very serious issue,’ said Bachmann, ‘and one that I don’t think anyone wants to see happen going forward.’ However, as Napolitano pointed out, ‘it happened under the PATRIOT Act,’ which Bachmann supported when it came up for reauthorization earlier this year. “

  • grape_crush

    Make Room! Make Room!*

    “But as development marches on throughout the world, the footprints of the Earth’s inhabitants grow ever larger.

    Think carbon footprint, only with multiple dimensions. A carbon footprint, plus a grazing footprint, plus a fishing footprint and so on. Or, as the report sums it up: ‘Every human activity uses biologically productive land and/or fishing grounds. The ecological footprint is the sum of this area, regardless of where it is located on the planet.’

    If business continues as usual, the report predicts, ‘humanity will be using resources and land at the rate of two planets each year by 2030, and just over 2.8 planets each year by 2050.’

    The editorial team that produced the latest report writes that human demand on the planet’s ecosystems more than doubled between 1961 and 2007. Humankind is now consuming the planet’s resources at a rate that outstrips the natural replenishment of those resources by 50 percent.”

    (*title reference can be found here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_Room!_Make_Room!)

  • nflfoghorn

    Are you riffing on the fact that his talk show b_mb_d?
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    Need a hint? Buy a vowel. :)

  • m0mentom0ri
  • m0mentom0ri

    Great link, but now I’ve got that song stuck in my head. So…thanks for that.
    . ;-)

  • grape_crush

    There’s a few Catch-22s in the education debate.

    “An importance subtext in a lot of education policy debates is that some people feel that efforts to improve the performance of schools is a distraction from the more important job of giving poor people more economic resources…those who complain about poor school performance ‘act as enablers for those who dismiss the need to address issues of concentrated poverty.’[...]

    …there really are sharp limits to have far you can go with addressing education policy issues in a vacuum. The rising cost of health care, the shrinking public tolerance for tax hikes on the middle class, and the hyper-empowerment of the rich in the political system are combining to create a situation where it will be impossible to finance K-12 education in the United States. Institutions committed to ‘education reform’ as their mission sort of can’t focus on this nexus by definition and the people who fund such outfits are generally not interested in funding talk about the desirability of higher taxes. Similarly, most American cities are in a position where if they improve their school system and hold housing policies constant, the medium-term impact will be to create a new equilibrium where poor people can’t afford to live in the city, not a new equilibrium where poor people attend the new good schools.

    The flipside of that is that it’s difficult for me to imagine a policy agenda that improves the relative status of poor people in a long-term and sustainable way that doesn’t include improvements in the level of educational attainment.”

  • m0mentom0ri

    grape, the close-parentheses broke the link. Here it is again (very good reading).
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    http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/10/13/dear-washington-post

  • grape_crush

    IMHO, income disparity and the impact of Big Money in politics are the two issues Dems should be talking about right now.

    “For months, President Obama has stressed the budgetary rewards of eliminating tax breaks for the wealthy. But many Democrats see a more fundamental reason to let the Bush-era tax cuts expire in January: narrowing the growing divide between the rich and everyone else.

    …a solid core of Democratic lawmakers says it will urge party leaders to seize a rare opportunity to reverse three decades of rising income inequality by resisting any effort to extend the cuts for the richest 2 percent of households.[...]

    ‘I find it ironic that we’re nibbling around the edges on this issue,’ said Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.), co-chairman of the House Progressive Caucus. ‘I talk about the deficit because it’s the party line right now. But this is a disparity issue. It’s about poverty. It’s about fairness. And, as Democrats, we need to stand for those things.’ [...]

    ‘I just really believe it’s an argument we can win,’ said Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio). ‘If you look at our tax structure from World War II to 1980, we had a system where the wealthiest paid more, we kept reinvesting back into our country, and we had a strong middle class.’ Since then, the rich have raked in a growing share of the nation’s income even as their tax rates have fallen. ‘It’s just been this sucking sound up the ladder to the wealthiest Americans,’ he said.

  • nflfoghorn

    They missed the police officer, Indian chief and construction worker ;)

  • grape_crush

    sorry – have to remember the space next time

  • freeinpa

    And if I had the desire to waste time as you do, I could come up with a similar list. Worth noting is how every loon that goes off the left is quick to take tortured and twisted position to in it on the right.
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    BUt since you are clueless and a knee-jerk idiot, the poll referred to party politics not isolated incidents. Nice obfuscation effort though.

  • nflfoghorn

    Rhee didn’t see any of those factors. In her mind either the kid learns or you didn’t try hard enough – fire the teacher!.

    A minister at my church who’s also a public school teacher taught in the inner-city school for three years and he said it’s always difficult to get a kid to learn when said kid spent the night wide awake trying to hear from what direction the bullets in the complex were flying.
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    Crime, poverty, domestic violence – none of that stuff matters to educators who have a sincere desire to improve schools. They can ignore them to their detriment, however.

  • freeinpa

    I see we are back to you can’t win the arguments so lets attack the source. But when you have a bankrupt philosophy that’s all you can expect

  • grape_crush

    History begins to judge Paulson.

    “However, while Paulson has been criticized, unfairly or not, because $12.9 billion of the bailout money went to Goldman, he’s drawn little scrutiny for what he did in his first 18 months in office, during the final frenzied stages of the housing bubble.[...]

    ‘No one was better positioned . . . than Mr. Paulson to understand exactly what the implications of his moving against the (housing) bubble would have been for Goldman Sachs, because he knew what the Goldman Sachs positions were,’ said William Black, a former senior thrift regulator who delivered the harshest criticism of the former secretary.

    Paulson ‘knew that if he acted the way he should, that would have burst the bubble. Then Goldman Sachs would have been left with a very substantial loss, and that would have been the end of bonuses at Goldman Sachs.’

    Black has emerged as a leading expert on the subprime meltdown and has testified multiple times to congressional committees and to the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, the congressionally appointed panel that’s investigating the causes of the disaster.

    A second Paulson critic, retired senior thrift examiner Richard Newsom, wrote to Congress about the regulatory lapses that he said contributed to the crisis. In a phone interview, he said that it was ‘simply implausible that Paulson couldn’t see the relation between delaying strong action by Treasury and the benefit to letting places like Goldman” reduce their risks.’”

  • grape_crush

    Odd, considering that my wife didn’t have to don a burqa when we went to the Henry Ford Museum last weekend.

    Last week at a rally of Tea Party movement supporters, Angle said Dearborn and Frankford, Texas are subject to Sharia, or Islamic law.

    “We’re talking about a militant terrorist situation, which I believe isn’t a widespread thing, but it is enough that we need to address, and we have been addressing it,” Angle said according to audio of the rally obtained by the Washington Post. “My thoughts are these. First of all, Dearborn, Michigan, and Frankford, Texas, are on American soil, and under constitutional law. Not Sharia law. And I don’t know how that happened in the United States.”

    In a letter sent to Angle Monday, Dearborn Mayor John O’Reilly, Jr. fired back at the Nevada Republican.

    After explaining that the Detroit metro area, which includes Dearborn, has one of the country’s highest concentrations of Arab-Americans in the country, O’Reilly also informs Angle that ‘Arab-Americans practice religions other than Islam and the Chaldean and Lebanese cultures in our area represent a substantial number of Christians.’

    ‘I am afraid that many share the perception that Muslims have only recently immigrated to this area and are imposing their culture on our region,’ O’Reilly also writes, directly addressing Angle’s claims about the role of Muslims in his community.

    The Michigan mayor adds, ‘Muslims have been practicing their faith in our community for almost 90 years without incident or conflict. To suggest that they have taken over ignores the fact that Dearborn hosts 7 mosques and 60 Christian churches.’”

  • freeinpa

    “‘If you look at our tax structure from World War II to 1980, we had a system where the wealthiest paid more, we kept reinvesting back into our country, and we had a strong middle class.’ Since then, the rich have raked in a growing share of the nation’s income even as their tax rates have fallen.”
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    That is exactly the argument Obama made- wealth re-distribution except he shoveled it (another shovel ready project) as “fairness” . And fo rthe past 2 years it seems the Demos keep repeating the same crap and voters keeping saying enough! No matter how you slice it, tax policy and liberal interests have priced themselves out of the middle income jobs (look at government employees your next) and now liberals are using trend line analysis to equate high tax rates with higher middle class incomes.

  • grape_crush

    “They were doing what they thought was right for their country.”

    “‘I think that they thought they were fighting for their homeland,’ Iott said. When pressed further, he replied: ‘I don’t think we can sit here and judge that today. We weren’t there the time they made those decisions.’

    Iott has been scrubbed from the Young Guns website since revelations about his reenacting surfaced, and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor withdrew his support from Iott, saying he ‘would absolutely repudiate that and do not support an individual that would do something like that.’ Iott responded by slamming Cantor, even comparing him to Democrats.”

  • grape_crush

    Dessert:

    Ten minutes of amazing in Prague.

    Neat stuff, at least until the folks Madison Avenue overuse the technique to sell soda.

    (h/t Little Green Footballs)

  • m0mentom0ri

    Some anecdotal confirmation of the Pew research.
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    I did some consulting for a company that offered internet, phone, and tv service to several small and mid-size markets. The percentage of new move-ins (home owner or rental) under 25 who wanted a landline?
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    0%

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    Was polled last night by a similar poll, but in PA.

    Who did I plan on voting for?
    What age was I?
    What do I align myself as?

    DC number as well. Pick numbers to answer. Also found a skew on some of the questions:

    What is the most important issue to you? Options:

    1) Jobs
    2) National Security
    3) Social Security
    4) … something I don’t remember, but it didn’t feel important to anyone who wasn’t strictly on the right.

    I looked at the options, listened to them again, couldn’t find a write in option and picked 1. Talk about leading the witness.

  • http://gum0nshoe.wordpress.com gumOnShoe

    We opted for having a landline (23 & 25 yrs), but now that we have it we feel like its a money drain and should dump the service. That said, that’s how I received the poll below

  • hippooath

    But what if the source is crap? Are you saying you can’t attack it?
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    What if the premis is false, the facts wrong and the interpretation of data a bunch of nonsense? Are you telling me that we or anyone can’t attack it?

  • kevin

    Really? I must have missed all the news stories in the past two years about liberals murdering conservatives because of their political differences.
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    But you’re sure they exist? Oh, OK then. You’re never wrong.

  • freeinpa

    I guess when you only read websites that broadcast through your tin-foil hat you won’t (most likely) refuse to notice
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    FBI: Eco-Terrorism Remains No. 1 Domestic Terror Threat
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    USA: A former mink farm is set ablaze in Astoria. An anonymous claim of guilt is posted by the North American Animal Liberation Front Press Office (Envirowhaco)
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    SUVs vandalized at Oregon dealership
    USA: Acid or paint stripper is thrown over 15 Hummers at Vic Alfonso Cadillac Dealership in northeast Portland. Earth Liberation Front website does not claim guilt, but says it is “an evident response to the impact SUVs and Hummers have on the environment.(Envirowhacko)
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    Hasan, 40, is charged with premeditated murder and attempted premeditated murder in the attack, which killed 13 people and wounded 32 others. (Hated the military and what it stands for)
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    From your Anti-IRS whacko “manifesto” that the left insists is a conservative
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    “Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours?”

    For is a nutty disillusioned leftist like you that has galloping paranoia about Corporations running this country.
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    The new McCarthyism finding a conservative under every bed. Maybe spend some time finding out why the majority of Americans believe liberalism is a mental disorder.

  • freeinpa

    Another shovel ready job for the WH. – Burying the American worker
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    There were 462,000 initial jobless claims filed in the week ended Oct. 9, up 13,000 from an upwardly revised 449,000 the previous week, according to the Labor Department’s weekly report.
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    The 4-week moving average of initial claims — a number that tries to smooth out week-to-week volatility — was 459,000. This number is up 2,250 from the previous week.

  • freeinpa

    As the extreme left continues to go bat crap crazy over – well a desperate smear by left crazies over a non issue even the usual cohorts in liberal smear crimes cannot find anything in the foreign donations mania. The horror has been shot down by WaPo, NYT and now Columbia Journalism Review.
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    In addition to being a bagful of nothing the left seems to be suffering from cognitive dissonance about Democrats foreign donors. Typical.

    According to legal experts consulted by ThinkProgress, the Chamber is likely skirting longstanding campaign finance law that bans the involvement of foreign corporations in American elections.
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    Alas, ThinkProgress doesn’t name any of these legal experts.

    And there’s lots of innuendo.
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    Find a hot-button issue, create an angle to raise dark suspicions about your opponent, and run with it—evidence be damned. Sure you may go to hell for it, but you’ll raise your opponent’s negatives!

    This business from the administration about the Chamber of Commerce and foreign funding probably focus-groups well: “Danged furreners are stealin’ our jobs and secretly buyin’ our elections (spit).”

    But it’s awfully thin gruel—almost certainly a bogus story trumped up

    From Columbia Journalism Review

  • freeinpa

    “What if the premis is false, the facts wrong and the interpretation of data a bunch of nonsense? Are you telling me that we or anyone can’t attack it”
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    No but it is the typical liberal response when caught in mischief, attack the source, deny the facts or turn to their “facts”. The conservative having been dealing for 2 years the accusations of “liar” over HC reform and now those lies turn out to be real. If not a liar a racist or some other derogatory slur in an effort to re-direct the discussion. I guess it beats dealing with reality.

  • freeinpa

    Like the left bloggers celebrating Cheney’s heart problems?
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    http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2010/02/msnbc-talker-lets-rip-out-cheneys-heart.html
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    Spare us your sanctimony.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Penn & Teller show a little bit about polling.
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    http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?aid=&itemnum=9472
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    BTW: Penn Gillette himself is a devout libertarian and, subsequently, leans dramatically towards Republicans over Democrats, but, finds manipulative polling and the learning of manipulative phrases to be bulls hit. So, anybody ready to say that this is leftist, communist… blah, blah, should find out about the people who made this. Gillette hates deception of all kinds.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    1) Animal rights radicals: killed 0 people and have 0 members of the US House or Senate supporting their POV. I do not know of any vegetarians in congress nor am nor will I ever be one myself.
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    2) Eco radicals: killed 0 people but damaged property. Support for the total elimination of cars in the house and senate: 0 votes.
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    3) Hassan: radical Muslim – not liberal or “left”.
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    4) Anti-Tarp II & anti- IRS = Republican (like you expressed both of those opinions yourself – unless you want to claim you are “leftist”)
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    Freak foiled by facts again.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “”The vast majority of people working on the TARP today receive their paychecks from private companies, not the federal government,” the report said.”
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    First, Tarp Part One was Bush’s baby.
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    Second, Bush outsourced most the Iraq War while you cheered on.
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    Third, you cry and scream that private businesses are more efficient than government all of the time. So, when private, for profit businesses do work for the government, you should be out dancing in the streets.
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    But, if your point is that Bush was sloppy in creating TARP part one, then I agree. Dubbya was a moron.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    I guess Sajack is just another one of those lefty, communist, god hating liberals.
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    You know ,they have to go to communist god hating school before they are allowed on television, so, this must be a liberal opinion.
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    BTW: does that mean that the Armed forces and federal, state and local law enforcement doesn’t get to or shouldn’t vote?
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    Oh, I forgot. The Armed forces, law enforcement and fire departments – all Republican leaning in nearly everywhere – don’t get paid by taxes, they get paid by the free market fairy.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Freakinpa has more problems with reading comprehension:
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    “SCHULTZ (04:38): And we want Shooter to make it. Hell, we hope he goes and shoots somebody else in the face. That was a helluva story way back when.

    SCHULTZ (05:26): How come Dick Cheney’s health care isn’t being dropped? Do you realize that if you had five heart attacks, hell, you wouldn’t get past two heart attacks and they’d dump you.”
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    He made fun of Cheney because Cheney did not die and since he opposes health care reform yet, uses up far, far more coverage than most of us could have if it weren’t for the law forbidding exclusion of people with pre-existing conditions.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Moment,
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    I have an idea!
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    Instead of just government fire departments being replaced by private fee based ones, let’s have private businesses take care of law enforcement and the military.
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    In “leftist” towns like NYC, our, fire, local police, state police, FBI, ATF, DEA and Secret Service (covering counterfeiting) fees would be included in our taxes. People from red states in “real American” towns would have to pay a fee to either the government or private law enforcement. If you do not select a gang to pay protection money to, it’s okay to let criminals murder your family and steal from you. If you want to pay without coverage, you would, also, have to pay about $20,000 per year for imprisonment of the person who raped and murdered your wife – no payment, the criminal goes free.
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    How about the military?
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    Blue states and liberal towns would pay their share to the federal military as a part of our taxes, but, in “real Americans” towns in red states, we just let other countries invade until the fee is paid by every single person there.
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    This way, we could have Eric Prince handle the armed forces and police departments for all of the right wingers and we’d have real police in the “leftist” towns.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Michele Bachmann giving lessons on the constitution when Obama is a constitutional scholar is like Don Knotts giving classes on body building if Arnold Schwarzenegger was the president.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “That is exactly the argument Obama made- wealth re-distribution except he shoveled it (another shovel ready project) as “fairness” .”
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    In Economics there is a term “utility”. It can best defined as the usefulness or subjective value of a good or service.
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    The Utility for one’s first pair of shoes is far greater than the utility of one’s ninth pair of shoes (especially for a guy – I never owned more than three pairs of shoes and doubt if I were a billionaire I would own far more than three pairs).
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    So, freeing a family from tax to buy new shoes every six months, for example, rather than having to wait for it to be eight or nine months adds more to a low income household than putting the tax burden on a wealthier household where it would prevent the purchase of a ninth pair of shoes.
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    This is why it is called fair.
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    The middle class ought to pay far less in taxes than the highest income groups and the middle class ought to pay more than the poor.
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    This is what our forefathers, beginning with president Lincoln, decided along with the majority of Americans starting the first time at the beginning of the Civil War.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    You would think that, 65 years after the end of the Second World War when knowledge of the extremely massive atrocities is well within common knowledge that the issue of Nazi = immoral group of people should be settled by now.
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    I wonder when the new right will question the emancipation proclamation.

  • freeinpa

    “Freak foiled by facts again.”
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    No “your facts”. You still operate under the delusion you have a clue.

  • freeinpa

    “First, Tarp Part One was Bush’s baby.
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    Second, Bush outsourced most the Iraq War while you cheered on.
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    Third, you cry and scream that private businesses are more efficient than government all of the time. So, when private, for profit businesses do work for the government, you should be out dancing in the streets.”
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    So little facts so much stupidty.

    Yes Bush started TARP and he did bring the country back from the financial abyss. He was President for about 3 months after TARP was enacted.
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    What does outsourcing the war have to do with handing over the administration of failing financial firms to ones in receivership and responsible for much of the problem. You are seriously stupid.
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    And only an imbecilic clueless liberal would confuse a GSE for “private business”

    It’s amazing you can walk upright!

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “No “your facts”.”
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    In this universe, these are the facts.
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    Do you think that the car dealership and mink farm have hidden dead bodies?
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    Do you think that you are a liberal since you and Joe Stack both hate TARP II and the IRS?
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    Do you think that militant Islam is liberal rather than very right wing?
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    In other words, you are saying that you have no case. For many decades the right wing has been gradually growing more and more violent and the left, since the first red scare ninety years ago has grown more and more peaceful and polite.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Yes Bush started TARP.”
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    Good, now tell me that he is, like Obama, a Communist Fascist, Muslim, radical Christian gay gangster because of it since he and Obama did the same thing.
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    “What does outsourcing the war have to do with handing over the administration of failing financial firms…”
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    It’s exactly the same except for the fact that when Haliburton fails to deliver clean water, our troops get ill and when Blackwater murders local civilians, the survivors back terrorists who try to kill us.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Sorry, Freak, most of us were not concerned that foreign greedy lunatics were using billions of dollars to steal elections. We were worried about home grown greedy lunatics like the Koch brothers were stealing elections for tax breaks and the ability to pollute our air and water.

  • apr2563

    Isn’t it wonderful that conservatives who love the constitution are so willing to abandon it when convenient.
    They also seem to have a problem with the no taxation without representation theory. Or, are they willing to let all government employees stop paying taxes.
    Of course, there is that problem with being pro colonization that they have adopted.
    Democracy seems to be too heavy a burden.

  • apr2563

    Love Jack Black, love the videos. Thanks.

  • apr2563


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    I may have posted this already. But it is the most moving testament about what hate speech and bullying does. The Limbaughs of this world need to be confronted of their words and bullying.
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    If you can watch this and not be ashamed of how we treat each other and its consequences.

  • freeinpa

    “It’s exactly the same except for the fact”

    Except for the fact your are a delusional dimwit. Fannie & Freddie help bring down a financial system and if Halliburton is so bad and evil why are they still operating? See line 1 of this paragraph.

  • freeinpa

    “I have an idea!”
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    You confuse intestinal gas with an idea. Get your head out of your a*s and it will pass.

  • freeinpa

    Another text book repeated answer by the resident dimwit.
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    As America has discovered with a WH full of “economic scholars” books don’t meet real world.

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