The Marxist, The Witch and The Miners

Tonight, CNN broadcast nationally the first debate between Republican Christine O’Donnell and Democrat Chris Coons, the candidates for Joe Biden’s old Senate seat in Delaware – at least most of it. The network broke away 53 minutes into the 90-minute debate to air live the rescue of the last two Chilean miners that have been trapped half a mile underground for the last two-and-a-half months. Frankly, the miners were much more interesting and inspiring.

That said, as political debates go, this one was lively. The opening statements sounded familiar themes this cycle with Coons, the New Castle County Executive, labeling O’Donnell an extremist and O’Donnell calling Coons a rubber stamp. O’Donnell, a Tea Party darling, upset establishment favorite Rep. Mike Castle last month handing Coons an opening for a seat Democrats had otherwise written off. A CNN/Time/Opinion Research Corporation survey out today shows Coons leading by 19 points amongst likely voters. O’Donnell, though, holds a healthy money lead which is why President Obama and Vice President Biden are schedule d to fundraise for Obama on Friday.

O’Donnell was the focus of some of the most pointed questions both from her opponent and the debate’s two moderators, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer and longtime Delaware news anchor Nancy Karibjanian of Delaware First Media. O’Donnell was pressed on her youthful dabbling in witchcraft (she said her “faith has matured”), previous statements that she doesn’t believe in evolution (she declined to give her personal belief but said she supports teaching creationism on par with evolution) and what recent Supreme Court decisions she opposes (in a Sarah Palin moment, she couldn’t think of any). O’Donnell deflected much of the criticism with humor.

COONS: There’s been lots of discussion in the national media about things my opponent has said or done that I frankly think are a distraction from the core issues that Delawareans ask about – ask both of us about.

O’DONNELL: You’re just jealous that you weren’t –

COONS: What would you do in Washington?

O’DONNELL: — on “Saturday Night Live.”

COONS: I’m – I’m dying to see who’s going to play me, Christine.

O’Donnell, though, did have some tough moments including the Supreme Court gaffe, where Blitzer helpfully suggested Roe v. Wade. Early on in the debate she mixed up Iraq and Afghanistan when talking about withdrawal plans, a mistake Coons was quick to correct. And towards the end she seemed in over her head when pressed on health care reform. Blitzer asked how she would force people to buy health insurance, using an example of taxpayers being forced to pay for the care of an uninsured person’s visit to the emergency room. O’Donnell accused him of scare tactics. “You’re using a very small hypothetical group,” she said. Blitzer, Coons and Karibjanian were quick to correct that that group is not so small and was the driving force behind health care reform.

O’Donnell, a marketing consultant, was better at looking at the camera, acknowledging that debates are more about the audience at home than that in the studio. Coons, who reportedly studied tapes of Vice President Joe Biden’s debate with Sarah Palin, was less media savvy. At first he was wooden, reading his opening and closing statements, and ignoring O’Donnell’s pointed criticisms of him. But as he grew more relaxed he also grew bolder in returning O’Donnell’s barbs. “There’s so much to respond to Wolf, a minute may not be enough,” Coons often lamented. “I think it’s important to look closely at some of the things Ms. O’Donnell’s thrown out on her new web site. Most of them are untrue. Some of them are flat-out lies. Some of them are mischaracterizations. Some are just factually untrue. So, I’m not going to stop every single time there’s something she throws out that I disagree with or I think is factually untrue,” he said at one point, clearly losing his patience.

O’Donnell threw plenty of criticisms at Coons, accusing him of raising taxes, of being “Harry Reid’s pet,” a trust fund baby and of having “Marxist beliefs.” All of which Coons scoffed at. At times Coons could hardly hide his disdain for O’Donnell. “She doesn’t understand the complexity,” was a sentiment he often expressed in his explanations.

The end of the debate, which I watched on CSPAN, included a rapid fire round of questions from students at the University of Delaware in Newark, where the debate was being held. A quick summary: O’Donnell is opposed to the Ground Zero mosque and believes New York politicians that support it will suffer at the polls; Coons believes it’s in bad taste but says it should go forward. Coons is pro-choice and pro-embryonic stem cell research; O’Donnell is pro-life, even in cases of rape and incest, and anti-embryonic stem cell research. Coons is anti-Don’t Ask Don’t Tell; O’Donnell said it’s not her decision to make and she’d respect whatever the Pentagon decides. O’Donnell said she doesn’t support abolishing the Department of Education. Coons said he’s for combating climate change; O’Donnell accused him – or rather his family’s company W. L. Gore – of benefiting monetarily from the climate change bill (they company makes parts that go into fuel cells), a charge he said baffled him. O’Donnell said she liked some of Obama’s policies including his current strategies in Afghanistan and Yemen and his use of drones. O’Donnell was for the now-pocketed plan to expand drilling on the Outer Continental Shelf; Coons was against it. It went on like this for a while, but honestly, I started flipping back and forth to the rescue of the miners at this point. It was clear the debate wasn’t going to be a game changer. And may I just say: yay, Chile!

 

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  • square1

    Christine O’Donnell shampoos with Brawndo.

    At a certain point, this is no longer about ideology. In order to get elected to the Senate, a person should have a fairly extensive knowledge of political issues.

    Obviously being knowledgeable does not guarantee that one will be a good Senator. But to be flat-out ignorant should be an undisputed disqualification.

    To be unable to name a single recent Supreme Court decision? Unfathomable. This person is running to be one of 535 people to write the laws that all Americans — and in many cases the entire world — will have to live with. Knowing how the highest Court has interpreted existing law is fairly important to the job.

  • http://redstatedebate.wordpress.com redstatedebate

    OMG! O’Donnell wore Coons like a snowshoe!

    Notice the look on his face as he realizes that O’Donnell has just out maneuvered him.

    http://conservativeblogscentral.blogspot.com/2010/10/omg-christine-odonnell-body-slams.html

  • kbanginmotown

    Re: SCOTUS question.
    .
    IIRC, the correct answer is “any of ‘em…all of ‘em”.

  • 3xfire3

    Jay,
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    “writing doesn’t make me partisan. I have a long history of going after both sides, as I think you all have seen.”
    .
    Since you failed to answer this post from your last story, I thought I would give you another chance
    .
    “You have got to be kidding. You are stating that these links are negative stories about Democratic candidates currently running for office.
    .
    Not one of them is negative about a Democratic Candidates. In the articles you go out of your way to make excuses for the Democrats when they have potential election problems.
    .
    I also noticed only one article was on Swampland.
    .
    My original comments about your Bias stands. All you done in your reply is confirm what I said in post 1.”
    .
    I see you’re doing your normal hatchet job on a Republican. I actually watched about 45 minutes of the debate. During that time I thought it was a draw. O’Donnell was a much better speaker and Coons came across as a competent finance type guy.
    .
    That you saw it so differently must have been from watching with your Liberal Blinders on or else you just purposely used a lot of spin to make O”Donnell look bad and Coons look good.
    .
    My opinion of you stands. You’re definitely a Partisan-Ideologue.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Jay,
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    This commentary will help you to understand the point of view of 3xfire3 and his pals: http://www.thismodernworld.com/arc/2006/TMW07-05-06colorlowrescopy.jpg
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    Remember: your critics on the left are concerned that the media doesn’t do a good job informing people about the news. Your critics on the right want you tried, or perhaps just shot, for treason.

  • liberalmeltdown

    “a Tea Party darling”

    From now on I will refer to you as Jay Newton-Small a Times darling.
    .
    What’s the deal? You all got the same memo? The leftist MSM refers to Tea Party candidates as “darling.” I have yet to see you refer to Hillary as a Democrat darling. There may be a reason for that. Anyway darling, you shall be a darling from now on, since you believe that is an appropriate description, darlin.’ You sweet darling.
    .
    I’m not going to bother to post all the same crap from the MSM with the same darling tagged to Tea Party candidates.
    .
    You gonna call Obama the Democrat darling?
    .
    I dare you to call Nancy Pelosi the Democrat’s darling.
    .
    People would recoil in horror.
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    At least she is attractive enough to be a darling, since that’s the image that you want to project on her. Her opponent, the bald guy that looks like he’s lost, couldn’t be called darling. I suggest democrat dufus. It fits.
    .

  • apr2563

    Anti choice in cases of rape or incest.
    Creationism should be taught equally with evolution. Wouldn’t share whether she still though evolution was a myth.
    Confused our status in Afghanistan against the Russians.
    Couldn’t name a recent Supreme Court Case.
    Against stem cell research.
    Doesn’t want time line for Afghan withdrawl.
    Laughed at the cost of the war in relation to national debt.
    .
    Deleware will now summarily defeat O’Donnell

  • apr2563

    Actually, I think she is more book larned than Palin. She has spent years with right wing think tanks learning the message. Sarah just doesn’t want to bother larnin’ nothin’.

  • kevin

    Put down the bong, Aqua Buddha.

  • kevin

    Lighten up, Francis.
    .
    The media uses “darling” all the time, even for Hillary Clinton. A quick Google search gives these headlines:
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    Bad News For Obama, Hillary Clinton Is Still CBS’s Media Darling
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    Hillary Clinton, Media Darling?
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    Still The Dems’ Darling
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    Hillary Clinton: Right-Wing Darling?
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    And on and on. You’re paranoid.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Pat Sajak speaks out on the important issue of disenfranchisement.
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    He’s for it.
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    “So should state workers be able to vote in state elections on matters that would benefit them directly? The same question goes for federal workers in federal elections.”
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    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/249650/public-employees-and-elections-conflict-interest-pat-sajak

  • Alex Vallas

    She is definitely more clueless than Palin was in her interview with Couric. On the healthcare issue she was completely blank on why the bill was enacted. When asked a solution to education, she kept repeating sit down with the teachers. What if they are the problem? She was also out of touch with the American public re Afghanistan — most of whom want us out. Coons was right we are not going to “civilize” a country through war and it would take years if not generations to change their mentality. She accused the IRS of making a mistake re her not paying taxes, but I have seen nothing to prove that. Also, not mentioned during the time the program was on is why she used campaign funds to pay her boyfriend for rent along with other misuse of the funds. That should have been key because it is a criminal offense.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Your uncommon sensitivity is simply…darling.
    .
    I hadn’t taken you to be so PC.

  • ilikechips

    JNS- what a trash article. Gee, I can’t tell which candidate you like from reading this. really, your biased articles are just sh$t and getting tiresome. Go work at Kos where you belong.

  • bobell

    A few meanderings on themes of politics –
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    1. Dana Milbank in the WashPost pointed out that O’Donnell made her SNL crack in response to a remark in which Coons sought to deflect criticism of her as a loony. Kristen Wiig would have known where to place that zinger.
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    2. Has O’Donnell ever actually made a living as a “marketing consultant,” or does she just play one on TV?
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    3. At the same time that the polls show O’Donnell woefully behind Coons, other polls show that Mike Castle would have put Coons woefully behind him. I heard on the radio this morning a taped excerpt of some Tea Party bigwig saying he’d rather lose with a true conservative than win with a Republican liberal (an endangered species, to be sure, but Castle seems to be one of them). Sure looks like Delaware’s going to grant this guy’s wish.
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    4. It’s sad to see elections turning on things like whether hiring and then firing an illegal immigrant housekeeper is worse than having a staffer call the opponent a whore, or whether getting rich off a bunch of fake wrestlers is worse than bragging about going to a war one didn’t go to, or whether it’s worse to be a wimp or a crackpot (Nevada, in case it isn’t obvious), or whether being a former witch is worse than being dishwater dull. The Republicans have no coherent plan for coping with our chaotic economy or our floundering foreign policy, and the Demos seems stuck on “We’re not as bad as the other guys.” Okay, American politics has always been sucky, and I may be the victim of a “recency illusion,” but an election in which we are offered only nutty solutions to serious, if not intractable, problems is going to give us nutty solutions to serious, intractable problems.
    .
    5. Meanwhile, Obama appears to have conceded the election if you listen closely to his latest pronouncements. I’m conceding it too. So congratulations to the wackos — go ahead and make things even worse. It’s all you seem able to do. Not that there’s much reason to think the Demos would do much better.

  • freeinpa

    Jay:

    Maybe you can explain to Elvis here that cartoons aren’t deep commentary but comedy just like his liberal philosophy

  • freeinpa

    “Has O’Donnell ever actually made a living as a “marketing consultant,” or does she just play one on TV”
    .
    That’s an interesting comment since the last 4 Demo candidates for President were nothing but glorified welfare recipients (politicians).

  • kevin

    So his proposal is that people shouldn’t vote in elections in which there are issues that might personally affect them? Who exactly would that leave eligible to vote?
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    P_T S_J_K IS _N _SSHOLE
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    Hmmm. I’d like to buy an A, Pat.

  • kevin

    And the last 4 Repo candidates for President weren’t?
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    By your logic, John McCain had been a glorified welfare recipient for 26 years when he ran for the presidency. And it’s not like he needed the welfare checks, since he second-married into a fortune and eight houses.
    .
    George W. Bush was a glorified welfare recipient, too. He failed at all his businesses, so he relied on the state government to give him a paycheck.
    .
    The Repo nominee before him was Bob Dole, who had been a politician for thirty years when he got the nomination. And what’s worse, before he became a politician, he was another kind of glorified welfare recipient when he served as a soldier in World War II. God, what a layabout.
    .
    And before him, George H.W. Bush, who had been a politician since the mid-60s. This one is especially interesting, because his case shows how the culture of government dependence can be handed down from one generation to the next. Bush’s father Prescott lived off the government dime as a senator, and GHWB learned from his example — going so far as to have taxpayers pay for his housing for 12 straight years when he was “vice president” and “president.” And then he passed this pathology onto a third generation when his son followed him into this scheme of bilking the honest taxpayers out of their money.
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    Welfare whores, all of them!

  • allisonisa39e

    I wanted to find out what happened in the debate. After reading this article I realize I went to the wrong article. I have to go somewhere else to find out what happened at the debate.

  • kbanginmotown

    FTW!

  • hippooath

    “Jay:
    .
    Maybe you can explain to Elvis here that cartoons aren’t deep commentary but comedy just like his liberal philosophy”
    .
    Comedy and cartoons have been on the forefront to explain not only political realities but satirize a lot of what was going on historically. It goes back MANY hundreds if not thousands of years. The church even realized this with the divine comedy (example).
    .
    I understand why you don’t get it; to much dialogue…not enough raw unfocused emotions.

  • http://www.flickr.com/hubbmax hubbmax

    @ kevin: L_UGH OUT LOUD!
    Good one!

  • http://forgottenlord.livejournal.com forgottenlord

    Jay,
    .
    Can we go back to no feeding Thursday?

  • http://www.ghostnote.com Juan Valdez

    Stupid is the new black. She wears it well.

  • tommurrell

    I live in Ohio. I vote in Ohio. In fact, I have already voted. Now tell me why I should care about this?

  • 3xfire3

    tommurell,
    .
    Interesting happening in Ohio this Election Cycle.
    .
    It looks like Republicans will sweep the state in both national and local elections.
    .
    The latest poll shows Ohioans giving Obama a 33% Job Approval Rating.
    .
    Ohio is a state that is a must win for any Presidential Candidate. I don’t think anyone has ever won the Presidency without winning Ohio. Looks like Obama has his work cut out for him in 2012.

  • hippooath

    3x,
    .
    what are you going to do if all the supposedly sweeping never happens? What then. What if GOP barely ‘wins’?
    .
    What if they don’t win?
    .
    Will you finally say that the people have spoken?
    .
    Or will you, Free and the rest continue this dividing? Pretending that life is a little more complicated than GOP good, liberals evil?
    .
    Or will you start the whole ‘acorn/sumtin” stole christmas.
    .
    I’m thinking the latter.

  • 3xfire3

    hippooath,
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    Not going to happen. Not even in your dreams.
    .
    Republicans will win the house with at least 6 seats to spare. In the Senate they will pick up about 7 seats.
    .
    That’s enough to put a clamp on Obama’s and the Liberal Democrat’s extreme agenda.

  • freeinpa

    “Welfare whores, all of them!”
    .
    And its not limited to the Demos as Pres. candidates but the Congressional ones as well which exceed the Repubs by several factors as welfare whores.

  • apr2563

    Freeper: You want elected officials to refuse to take payment for their service?
    Do you want only independently wealthy people?
    Do you want scammers like Palin and Beck to be our leaders?
    Do you want any government at all?
    How will Joe the Plumber ever become President?

  • afguy

    So, 3x, that’s the extent of your governing vision… all the things you’re going to STOP?
    .
    What the h*ll do you expect to get done if your candidates are elected to Congress?
    .
    We’ve been waiting for you to put it into words for a few weeks now.

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