Morning Must Reads: Grind

Rick Scott: He may be an indictable creep, but he’s OUR indictable creep!

Difference between Halperin’s grinding and Paladino’s?

It’s somewhat apples and oranges, but his boosters will be quick to point out that Senator Shelby blocked his nomination on the grounds that he didn’t want someone “learning on the job.”
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Shelby didn’t have a problem with this when he voted to approve the three Bush administration nominees who had no experience in monetary policies, including one who didn’t even have an advanced degree in economics. Shelby had no problem with them.
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But this Nobel Prize winner, he would have trouble “learning on the job.” Right.

“President Obama will make his pitch on infrastructure spending today.”
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Weren’t we sold this fairy tale once before with shovel ready jobs. The only shoveling going on is by Obama.

Great piece from Dana Milbank on the psycopaths Glenn Beck enables.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/08/AR2010100805640.html
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Rusty and 3xfire will love the piece. Just like the guy described there, they believe all the right-wing bullsh!t about George Soros too.

I think we already established what NOW is, all that’s left is to negotiate price.

The day after he (or a member of his staff) is caught on tape calling Meg Whitman a whore, Jerry Brown has announced the endorsement of the National Organization of Women (NOW). You know, it’s fashionable in feminist circles to sit around bemoaning the fact that few young women want to identify themselves as feminists

If by “fairy tale” you mean “a success story according to all economists,” then yes.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/business/economy/17leonhardt.html
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The only people shoveling sh!t here are the conservatives who insist the infrastructure spending of the stimulus didn’t work. Conservative economists understand it worked — witness Mark Zandi or the study commissioned by AEI — but not the rank and file. Numbers are hard for them.

I’m agnostic about Diamond on the Federal Reserve Board as I really don’t know much about him but it seems to me that the Fed has always been a mix of academic economists and government economists/bankers so I’m not sure why it’s “apples and oranges.” A Nobel is certainly a qualification for the post. Not to say that you have to support the nomination of any laureate just because they are a laureate just that it’s an argument in favor.

“to all economists”

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All? Really all, did you count them?That’s liberal speak for shut up we decided there is no discussion. Read Zandi’s study (who had a vested interest in it) in which he makes assumption after assumption with no real numbers.

But if that’s the case why is the left’s self proclaimed genius economist, Krugman the Garden Gnome saying there was no increase in spending? How can there be both?
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Here’s what you need to know: The whole story is a myth. There never was a big expansion of government spending. In fact, that has been the key problem with economic policy in the Obama years: we never had the kind of fiscal expansion that might have created the millions of jobs we need.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/11/opinion/11krugman.html?_r=1&ref=global

Way OT: Great football weekend. Seminoles and Jaguars won, Gators ‘n Tide beat. Happy times.

Where’s grape_crush?

“Here is another one of those liberal facts” where every scientist agrees. Well at least the ones liberals want to listen to and agree with their point./
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Wonder how long it will be before we see nay mention of this from MSM ? It seems academics are easily bought for leftists causes.

“US physics professor: ‘Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life’ ”
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058265/us-physics-professor-global-warming-is-the-greatest-and-most-successful-pseudoscientific-fraud-i-have-seen-in-my-long-life/

I bet this guy is a big Glenn Beck fan too.
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http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/man-arrested-found-with-gun-anti-government-materials-20100916-mr

“But this Nobel Prize winner, he would have trouble learning on the job.” Right.”
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And just what is the price we would pay for learning on the job? Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers were no different. All “esteemed” academics with no real life experience.
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Check the on the job learning that several Nobel Prize winners and PhDs received with Long-Term Capital Management. They were best described as knowing a whole lot about math and nothing about the markets, despite their academic accolades.

Give him time….

That’s liberal speak for shut up we decided there is no discussion.
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Oh, so there’s a vast left-wing conspiracy to silence the vast number of economists who think the infrastructure spending was a “fairy tale”? Did Obama round them up and put them all in FEMA concentration camps?
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If you have a credible economist who supports your viewpoint, provide a link. If not, STFU.

Ol’ Man Axelrod’s tweet: “Waitin’ fer someone to come out the door and whack the jr staffer behind it upside the haid. Need some laughter round here.”

Is this one, one of yours kevie?
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/1-million-dare-drives-man-to-streak-in-front-of-obama/
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“the world is full of nut cases, one only needs to worry that you are not one of them” isn’t that right kevie?

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.f44dc0982a11a52246a9f2b994a36455.231&show_article=1
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Dollar Continues To Plunge

Who has all the money?
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-11/yuan-critics-may-get-ammunition-as-analysts-see-2-5-trillion-reserves.html

I do work, you know.

Still printing more money…..We need to fire the Fed.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/39604937

Wow, that’s all you’ve got?
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We have endless examples of right-wing nuts being driven over the edge by Glenn Beck and other treason peddlers — not just those two, but the Poplawski who killed those three policemen in Pittsburgh, the guy who crashed the plane into the Austin IRS building, the Holocaust museum murderer, etc etc. — and your response is, hey, some idiot streaked at a presidential address?
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Pathetic.

Here they come. In order to push the opponents out of the way, Democrats are now using the FBI and IRS to intimidate those who oppose Obama and his crony’s.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703735804575536370151720874.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion

2nd year in a row, Seniors are asked to bite the bullet yet again.
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Why do Dems hate grandma and grandpa so much?
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101010/ap_on_bi_ge/us_social_security_no_cola

“Oh, so there’s a vast left-wing conspiracy to silence”
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No there is no conspiracy- it standard operating procedure for liberals. Any disagreement/ Name call, denigrate and silence.
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“If you have a credible economist who supports your viewpoint, provide a link. If not, STFU.”
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Your line above confirms just what I said. You add “credible economist” You would then denigrate and name call and then try to silence. On plan and on cue.

But here is one: http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb_1208-51.pdf
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Also the same economists that call for more spending also call for extending the Bush tax cuts. That seems to be missing form your argument, if you can call it that.

Krugman puts down Tea Party candidates, but ignores the outright lies Democrat incumbents are now telling in their ads that they didn’t vote on healthcare or they didn’t vote for the stimulus. Lies being told by liars.
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But, Krugman defends them, and rants about Tea Party candidates.
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I guess if you are an out and out LIAR, Paul Krugman thinks you are A-Ok!! But, if you are backed by the Tea Party, there must be something wrong with you.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/battle-george-will-vs-paul-krugman-on-austerity-and-tea-party-ads/
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As the liberal loons come out and now defend Osama Bin Laden, yet they believe Tea Party folks are now the terrorists.
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From Bill Maher “He put out a tape last week, and uh there was nothing about violence or attacking America — see Lindsay Lohan, people can change.”
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Unbelievable.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/does-maher-believe-bin-laden-is-becoming-non-violent/

Yes Rusty same okld tricks for the left. If Obama was really that concerned instead of trying to re-focus the elections from the lefts failures to blaming somebody else, he would name a special prosecutor.
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Main reason he won’t there was a candidate names Obama who did the same thing. Or he is still protecting the unions who organizationally operate the sam eas the Chamber of Commerce in collecting money from foreign affiliates. WaPo and NYT those bastions of conservative thought even smelled on Obama sized rat.
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Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign is allowing donors to use largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor’s identity, campaign officials confirmed

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102803413_pf.html

What did I miss?

Oh yeah radioactive | Don’t you stand, stand too close | You might catch it

“House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) sought on Sunday to quickly and clearly distance the Republican Party from a GOP candidate whose past participation in Nazi re-enactments surfaced this weekend.

In an appearance on ‘Fox News Sunday,’ Cantor (the lone Jewish Republican in the House) said he “would absolutely repudiate” Rich Iott, the Republican nominee for Ohio’s 9th District who apparently had an affinity for donning a German Waffen SS uniform. [...]

Iott’s past involvement in Nazi re-enactments, first reported by The Atlantic, may well constitute the largest discomfiture for the Republican Party in a cycle in which a number of candidates have done or said discomforting things. The Ohio Republican has defended himself by insisting his participation in the events was done for ‘purely historical interest in World War II.’ But the defense has done little to assuage GOP leadership. Once listed on the Republican Party’s site of “Contenders” (a ranking/prioritization of candidates that was just below the ‘Young Guns’), Iott’s name was removed altogether once the photos of him surfaced.”

More liberal views on euthanasia.
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” I ASKED DOC TO KILL MY ILL FATHER”by Liberal supporter and actor, Michael Caine

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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/actor-michael-caine-i-asked-doc-to-kill-my-ill-father/

“Too much and not enough”

“In previous years we would have been breaking out the champagne on this news: The monthly budget review released yesterday by the Congressional Budget Office estimated that the federal budget deficit fell by $125 billion from 2009 to 2010. This by far is the biggest one-year nominal drop in the deficit that has ever occurred.

There were two primary reasons there was no cheering yesterday.

First, it’s not at all clear that reducing the deficit was the correct fiscal policy given the slow growth in the U.S. economy.

Second, in the current political atmosphere even a 50 percent reduction would have still left lots of room for those who want to do so to use the deficit as an issue. To those folks, the $125 billion reduction simply isn’t as important as the $1.29 trillion deficit that’s available for campaign fodder.”

Jesus, freeinpa, did you even read the link you provided?
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Look at the date — December 2008. It was published three months before the stimulus was passed and therefore doesn’t seem to be a reliable account of what impact the infrastructure spending had on the economy after the stimulus was enacted.
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Epic fail.

Here is one of the best explanations as to why the economy has been slow to rebound and unemployment remain high. It doesn’t fit well with the liberals reach for more government interference into our lives.

Government is broken and the economy is gasping. The reason is the same: Americans no longer feel free to roll up their sleeves and make the choices needed to fix things. Governors come to office and find that 90% of the budget is pre-committed to entitlements and mandates enacted by politicians long dead. Teachers no longer have authority to maintain order in the classroom.
Legal mandates and entitlements have accumulated, like sediment in the harbor, until it is almost impossible for Americans to get anywhere without trudging through a treacherous legal swamp. Only big businesses, not small entrepreneurs, have the size (and legal staffs) to power through the legal sludge.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/10/10/2010-10-10_drowning_in_law_a_flood_of_statutes_rules_and_regulations_is_killing_the_america.html#ixzz11yKGlbJZ
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Projection?

“The construction of a community center and mosque in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, has garnered more attention due to the extreme rhetoric and actions of the project’s opponents. The ARF and FBI are investigating an arson attack, a Republican congressional candidate dubbed it an ‘Islamic training center,’ protesters said Muslims ‘are out to overthrow this government and this country’ and another detractor shouted at a Muslim woman, ‘our constitution doesn’t apply to you.’

And now opponents are asking a judge to overrule the zoning board, claiming Muslims do not have the right to build houses of worship since Islam is not in fact a religion but a traitorous, anti-American political movement.

This radical argument echoes the statements of Tennessee’s Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey, who said that ‘could even argue whether that being a Muslim is actually a religion, or is it a nationality, way of life, cult or whatever you want to call it.’”

Halperine projection:

In the past few days, we have witnessed the spectacle of the President himself and his top advisers wading into allegations that Republicans are attempting to buy the election using foreign money laundered through the Chamber of Commerce, combining with Karl Rove and his wealthy backers to fund a flood of negative television commercials. Not only is this issue convoluted and far-fetched, but it also distracts from the issues voters care about…

Guess what. Some of us care when our government is being sold to the highest bidder. Halperine and the rest of the Village just see it as business as usual. Unfortunately, except for the “far-fetched” lie, they’re right.

Gee, this is OLD news. Come on grapey, you are beginning to lose it man. Haven’t you found any cross-dressing Republican candidates yet? Or are you going to also go back on the O’Donnell “I’m not a witch, I’m you” just to find that last voter who didn’t already here that one.
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And the drop occurred without an increase in taxes. Hmmm!

Yes, spending 1.29 TRILLION but cut out 125 billion is a great deal. Americans should start to celebrate, when?
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Is that like when I run up my credit cards, spend $10,000 dollars, and then send them my obligatory minimum payment of $20 bucks?

It’s demand, stupid, part bajillion’.

“Two recent movements in the structural unemployment discussion push the debate into the last redoubt of supply-side arguments.[...]

Is health care to blame for businesses not hiring? Let’s ask some businesses. We talked about the Small Business Economic Trends survey of their single most important problem. I was able to get the historical data on this. I am going to plot what are potential categories of ‘supply side’ problems vis-a-vie health care cost worries, namely the categories of taxes, regulations, labor quality, labor costs and health insurance…[...]

From the regulatory and policy point of view it’s same as it ever was, with new poor sales taking a massive lead over plausible health care proxies.”

(supporting charts at the link)

You actually think for one fleeting second anyone here’s gonna believe a word Breitboy says?!?!?

“Foreclosure fraud for dummies”.

(for those unfamiliar with why the mortgage/foreclosure industry got so knotted up)

“What’s the worry here? Well many of these mortgage originators were fly-by-night shops, shady enterprises that collapsed the moment they hit trouble. And many of them cut corners and one of the corners they may have cut would have been to send the note to the trust. Specifically, there is worry that many mortgage originators never sent the notes to the depositors. Originators wanted volume to get fees and may not have done all the paperwork correctly. There are a lot of things that have to end up in the trust when I take out a mortgage, things like the note, title insurance, supporting documents. But the note is the most important.

Why is this important? Well the trustees usually sign several certificates saying that they have verified all the documentation in these trusts. Many of these trusts are under New York trust law which is particularly clear and strict when it comes to these matters. “

More on “grinding”
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/paladino-defends-gay-remarks-denounces-speedo-clad-grinding-in-parades/
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You have to admit, who wants to go to a parade and see a bunch of men dressed up in speedos grinding their way down 5th Ave?
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Up next, ACLU sues to have mega-balloons wear speedos and grind their way down the parade routes during the Thanksgiving day parade.

Underwater in the desert.

“Nevada is interesting because it’s such a disaster, it’s relatively small, and there isn’t going to be enough demand to clear the abandoned properties – it would be a perfect place for a state-wide implementation of a right-to-rent program. If we were serious about “shocking” a solution to a structural unemployment problem forcing some financial firms and bondholders to actually eat losses in Nevada would be a place to start. But let’s also not confuse this story with the story of the country as a whole, where every state has had an increase in unemployment.”

Actually the nutball in Austin Texas is considered a “liberal”.
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Whether or not James J. Lee, who invaded the corporate offices of the Discovery Channel Wednesday armed with explosives and a gun., was a terrorist or not would seem to be open to debate. Certainly PJM has been unable to discover any ties between Lee and any known ecoterror group — despite his radical environmentalist manifesto.

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http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/media-bias-gets-dangerous-minimizing-the-ecoterror-threat/

I think Ted Kazinsky is also one of yours, isn’t that right kevie?

Not that I expect you to understand what Krugman is saying, freep (not that I expect to even try to understand) but his point was that the impact of any federal government stimulus was being more than offset by downturns in employment at the state and local levels. Specifically, state and local govenrments together have laid off 300,000 more people than have been hired by a stimulus related federal program. This is above and beyond the fact that the main impact of the federal “stimulus” was more often in the form of jobs not lost than actual jobs gained. So taken together, it is not surprising that unemployment has fallen as little as it has over the course of the last year. This won’t stop you and Rusty from rooting for as many people to be out of work as possible, I’m sure, the better to demonstrate your love of country.

I wonder if the DOJ will investigate this with the same intensity? Not likely sicne it hasn’t been reported anywhere despite video evidence. But then hypocrisy runs pretty deep with the left.

It was actually a big black liberal woman who whaled on a petite white conservative female reporter last weekend.
Whew, thank God I corrected myself because we all know that if a hulking honky Tea Party mama with dragon nails had smacked down a svelte progressive black female reporter (and on film, no less) it would have caused a media firestorm that would have escalated into:
1. Daily front page coverage by the New York Times
2. Watts-like riots across the nation
3. Non-stop bit**ing from Al Sharpton
4. The end of the Tea Party as we know it
5. And a drunk Kanye would’ve surfaced on a quickly-cobbled, specious Hollywood telethon against racism sporting white Levolor shades and a red leather Michael Jackson jacket and somehow pin all this Tea Party violence on George W. Bush’s primal hatred for black people

http://townhall.com/columnists/DougGiles/2010/10/09/shocking_bigoted_white_tea_party_woman_beats_petite_black_female_reporter/page/full/

And what causes lower sales demand? Worry about whether they will keep their job/find a job plus increased costs of HC and taxes. But then that doesn’t fit well with argument that the government can increase demand with higher taxes.

The Other Klein with a Q and A on “the biggest fraud in the history of the capital markets”.

“When we had the financial crisis, the first thing the banks did was run to Congress and ask for accounting relief. They asked to be able to avoid pricing this stuff at the price where people would buy them. So no one can tell you the size of the hole in these balance sheets. We’ve thrown a lot of money at it. TARP was just the tip of the iceberg. We’ve given them guarantees on debts, low-cost funding from the Fed. But a lot of these mortgages just cannot be saved. Had we acknowledged this problem in 2005, we could’ve cleaned it up for a few hundred billion dollars. But we didn’t. Banks were lying and committing fraud, and our regulators were covering them and so a bad problem has become a hellacious one.[...]

This can be done with a resolution trust corporation, the way we cleaned up the S&Ls. The system got back on its feet faster because we grappled with the problems. The shareholders would be wiped out and the debt holders would have to take a discount on their debt and they’d get a debt-for-equity swap. Instead we poured TARP money into a pit and meanwhile the banks are paying huge bonuses to some people who should be made accountable for fraud. The financial crisis was a product of our irrational reaction, which protected crony capitalism rather than capitalism. In capitalism, the shareholders who took the risk would be wiped out and the debt holders would take a discount but banking would go on.”

Do the crime, never really stop doing the time.

“In devastating detail in Daedalus, the sociologists Bruce Western of Harvard and Becky Pettit of the University of Washington have shown how poverty creates prisoners and how prisons in turn fuel poverty, not just for individuals but for entire demographic groups. Crunching the numbers, they concluded that once a person has been incarcerated, the experience limits their earning power and their ability to climb out of poverty even decades after their release. It’s a vicious feedback loop that is affecting an ever-greater percentage of the adult population and shredding part of the fabric of 21st-century American society. [...]

Then, given the staggering scale of black incarceration, the authors looked at the effect on employment data if prisoners were factored into the unemployment numbers generated by the government. Using that more realistic measure of unemployment, they found that fewer than 30 percent of black male high school dropouts are currently employed. Seventy percent are jobless. Those are the sorts of unemployment figures one associates with failed Third World states rather than the largest, wealthiest economy on earth. And they augur ill for long-term social stability.

It gets uglier. When high school dropouts buck the trend by coming out of prison and finding steady work, they overwhelmingly hit a dead end in terms of earnings. Western and Pettit found that after being out of prison for 20 years, less than one-quarter of ex-cons who haven’t finished high school were able to rise above the bottom 20 percent of income earners, a far lower percentage than for high-school dropouts who don’t go to prison. They conclude that the ex-cons end up passing on their economic handicap, and by extension the propensity of ending up behind bars, to their children and their children’s children in turn.”

Radical Imam preaches, follower takes action.

“‘I would have never started watching Fox News if it wasn’t for the fact that Beck was on there. And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind.’ – Byron Williams[...]

Beck said that he was ‘going to be like … the Israeli Nazi hunters,’ adding, ‘I’m going to find these big progressives and, to the day I die, I’m going to be a progressive hunter.’ Beck continued: ‘I’m going to find these people that have done this to our — you know, to our country, and expose them. I don’t care where — I don’t care if they’re in nursing homes. I’m going to expose what they have done and make sure that the people understand, because our Constitution, our republic — if it survives — it will only survive because the people are waking up and through the grace of God, because we are that close to losing our republic.’”

“The financial crisis was a product of our irrational reaction, which protected crony capitalism rather than capitalism. In capitalism, the shareholders who took the risk would be wiped out and the debt holders would take a discount but banking would go on.”
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Yes we have the evil banks and crony capitalism but what sort of capitalism took place for Fannie, Freddie, GM and Chrysler? The left keep pointing at bogeyman like banks and insurance companies but conveniently ignore a couple of the most corrupt companies and the payoff handed to the UAW. The taxpayer is on the hook for trillions with Fannie & Freddie which have been the source of millionaire welfare for liberal political hacks.

And who needed a study to understand this? Jesse Jackson complained years ago that there was more young blacks in jail than Yale. What he never answered was that the entrance requirements was easier for one than the other.Or did he mention that the liberals are enablers for this permanent cycle as they rationalize, justify and excuse behaviors.. Of course conservatives get called racists for pointing these facts while the left just responds “spend more money”

Here is one minority segment that the left ignores. Note the difference in outcomes than you see in post #30 from the land breaking study of the obvious.

Maybe the Harvard and Washington professors should study the contrast to propose a solution. But then the left would have to admit that their policies over the past 50 years has been an abysmal failure.

Americans of Cuban heritage are, in fact, the most overwhelmingly Republican ethnic group in the U.S. Even with the third generation registering to vote, a measly 13 per cent of these incurably obtuse and unenlightened Hispanics register with America’s majority political party. This is the most diminutive Democratic registration of any ethnic group in the U.S.! And 72% of these Troglodytes are registered with America’s minority party (Republican.) This is the highest for any ethnic group in the U.S.
Even more infuriating for the Democrat-Media Complex, the 2000 census showed that second-generation Cuban-Americans have educational and income levels higher–not only than mot ethnic groups who dutifully punch the clock at the Democratic sweat shop every morning–but also higher than the US population in general.
http://bigjournalism.com/hfontova/2010/10/09/cuban-americans-the-only-ethnic-group-the-left-feels-free-to-hate/#more-130133

Gee, this is OLD news.
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Given that the distancing didn’t take place publicly until yesterday, I question your understanding of the word ‘old’, Rusty.

lols – you two clearly fit into that ‘Second’ category.

Joe Stack Opposed:
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The IRS and taxes on the top bracket being too high – Conservative.
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The Bailout – conservative.
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Unions – conservative.
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The Catholic Church – only communists and the far right, such as Rusty, who called the Catholic Church “socialist” the other day. (Hence far right wing).
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Joe Stack is one of yours.
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The Unibomber was as well. He bombed universities and the far right hates universities while liberals look for all of our answers from academics.
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Sorry, Freakinpa/Rusty. The last left winger to be dangerous is now a retired University of Chicago professor and the last time before that you have to go back to the anarchists at Haymarket in Chicago over one hundred years ago.

“What he never answered was that the entrance requirements was easier for one than the other.”
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Freepy’s right about that one, if you’re referring to prison.
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“After controlling for legally relevant factors, socioeconomic factors, and legal contextual factors, it was found that blacks convicted of cocaine offenses and Hispanics convicted of cocaine and marijuana offenses were sentenced more harshly than white offenders.”
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http://cjr.sagepub.com/content/22/2/133.abstract
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But yeah, I’m sure it’s all Jesse Jackson’s fault.
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Answer me this Freepy: Do white people deserve to be sentenced less or is there some lingering racism left in our legal system?

“Not that I expect you to understand what Krugman is saying, freep (not that I expect to even try to understand) but his point was that the impact of any federal government stimulus was being more than offset by downturns in employment at the state and local levels.”
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So you think he was arguing all the hiring should have been at the state & local government levels? The problem with the federal, state and local governments are having is budget deficits because they have outspent revenues. Public employees out earn, have more money spent on HC and pensions which cripple budgets but also hurt private employees who not only have to pay higher costs for their benefits and pensions but support profligate governments. Despite the loss of 350,000 jobs at the state and local government level it is only a 2.4% decline from the peak while the federal government has increased 3.2% for that same time period. Private non-farm payrolls fell 6.6% during that time.

So come on say it with me: The government cannot create jobs it is an expensive middle man that wastes tax dollars.
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And Kevie I see you are silent on “all” economists saying to extend the Bush tax cuts. But here is the same source with an update for you.

“Obama is essentially claiming that even with federal, state and local spending at about one-third of GDP, there are government spending projects left over that are so powerful that “we won’t grow” if they don’t happen.

Serious economists know that that is nonsense. Most government activities have negative effects on growth, not positive effects. Take the largest federal program, Social Security, which will consume about $660 billion in taxpayer money this year. The program is a negative on economic growth because it suppresses personal savings and the taxes to fund it create large distortions. Lots of liberal economists support such transfer programs for non-economic or “social” reasons, but few economists would argue that they expand GDP on net”

Worry about whether they will keep their job/find a job…
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This is partly responsible, yes. Having no or a negative growth in discretionary income would be another.
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…plus increased costs of HC and taxes.
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For most people, taxes haven’t gone up. Health insurance costs, however, have roughly doubled since 2000.
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http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2009-09-15-insurance-costs_N.htm
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Taxes for most people are still at historic lows.
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But then that doesn’t fit well with argument that the government can increase demand with higher taxes.
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Funny…all the arguments I’ve read state that you can increase demand through higher spending, not taxes.
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You could offset increased spending by increasing taxes, or you could just borrow the money from China and have your grandkids pay it off like the Bush administration did.

“Wonder how long it will be before we see nay [any] mention of this from MSM ?”

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“James Delingpole

James Delingpole is an English columnist and novelist. He has published several novels and two political books, How to be Right: The Essential Guide to Making Lefty Liberals History,[1][2] and Welcome to Obamaland: I Have Seen Your Future and It Doesn’t Work.[3] He writes for The Times, The Daily Telegraph, and as a television critic for The Spectator. He describes himself as a libertarian conservative.[4] He is also a fan of the Tea Party movement as shown on his Telegraph blog.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Delingpole
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One far right winger who has no expertise in climate change, is not remarkable in his own field., claims their is no climate change.
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This is news?
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This is news worthy right past “Cat gets stuck in tree – fire department rejects call.”

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The Unibomber was as well. He bombed universities and the far right hates universities while liberals look for all of our answers from academics”
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The gospel according to Rev JIm. One problem his manifesto was Al Gore’ Book or this that right wing now too. I guess it could be since the left has gone so far around the bend even he looks like a right winger by your standards.

“The Industrial Revolution and its consequences,” Kaczynski’s manifesto begins, “have been a disaster for the human race.” They have led, it contends, to the growth of a technological system dependent on a social, economic, and political order that destroys nature”
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He bombed an airline and a timber lobbyist. He was a back to nature freak, an enviro whacko who was a paranoid schizophrenic (a Liberal in non-medical terms)

Once again a response to no question on a subject unrelated to a post. Mental disorder of Rev JIm in full bloom today

And you fit the third where spending should continue upward and taxes should go higher. Don’t let a simple fact that despite spending still going up and tax rates unchanged, the deficit fell.
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What is also true is that corporations are sitting on trillions of dollars instead of hiring (treason according to brain childs of the left) because they are worried about higher taxes and costs. Just think how far that defict might have dropped if the yellow stripes on Team Donkey voted on extending the Bush tax cuts.

“Serious economists know that that is nonsense. Most government activities have negative effects on growth, not positive effects.”
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In the 1920s, indeed this is what they believed. “Take the largest federal program, Social Security, which will consume about $660 billion in taxpayer money this year. The program is a negative on economic growth because it suppresses personal savings and the taxes to fund it create large distortions.”
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First mistake: there is no evidence that social security suppresses savings.
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Second, savings is not equal to investment.
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A lack of investment costs jobs. Savings, usually the purchase of securities in secondary markets is just a lateral wealth transfer, not an investment.
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“Lots of liberal economists support such transfer programs for non-economic or “social” reasons, but few economists would argue that they expand GDP on net”
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Really?
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By getting small sums of money into the hands of people who would have none, it keeps spending up.
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This is not about hearts bleeding, It is about keeping the customers in the grocery stores buying all of the food, toilet paper and shampoo they need (not exactly luxury items).
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Sorry, Freakinpa, you’re using 1920s economics again.
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In Neo-Classical (ie 1920s mainstream) economics, money being spent is where the story ends. In Keynesian economics, the first time money is spent is just where the story begins since money goes through many different places.
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Serious economists find you amusing.

“You could offset increased spending by increasing taxes, or you could just borrow the money from China and have your grandkids pay it off like the Bush administration did.”
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First that works in theory. If government spending increases faster than the rise in taxes you have bigger deficits. And just to check, Congress passes budgets (at least they do when not terrified of losing their legislative life) and Team Donkey gained control of Congress when? 2004?
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. Man up Sally and quit blaming Bush for everything up to including your gingivitis.
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“Taxes for most people are still at historic lows.”
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And that means what? Open season to raise taxes to fund more worthless government sponsored handouts. You can tax all you want. If spending does not come under control you won’t be able to afford grandkids. The kick the can down the road and scare tactics of the left over spending on entitlements has hit the end of that road.

It’s ok freeinpa. When the loons on the left like sartor come out and paint with their paint-brushes those who we know were liberal terrorists like Kazinski, we know we have won.
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And that Austin plane crasher, he was a liberal libertarian. He held strong liberal social values, pretty much the same as patricksartor.

“Public employees out earn, have more money spent on HC and pensions which cripple budgets but also hurt private employees who not only have to pay higher costs for their benefits and pensions but support profligate governments.”
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First, only the entry level government jobs pay more than private jobs.
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DAs earn far less than private attorneys. Some earn less than police officers.
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Public defenders barely get minimum wage.
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Members of the president’s cabinet, often former CEOs, and the equivalent thereof in state and local jobs don’t even make 10 cents on the dollar of what private, for profit CEOs make.
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Providing good pay does not harm anybody else.
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If I make a $200,000 commission in commercial real estate, how much money do you lose?
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None.
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You are expressing non-economic jealousy and nothing more sound than that.
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Public employees have longevity, are screened more carefully and are paid what economists call a “seniority premium” which some private companies do. Pay more to keep the employee for the long run, the employee over time gets better and better at their job and, by maintaining a stable group of people have a non-economic binding which further increases longevity. When people work at the same job, they do not want to quit because, among other things, all of their best friends are at work.

” One problem his manifesto was Al Gore’ Book or this that right wing now too…
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“The Industrial Revolution and its consequences,” Kaczynski’s manifesto begins, “have been a disaster for the human race.”
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Well, it seems that you have memorized the work of the unibomber, but do not know one thing about Al Gore.
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Al Gore loves new technology like new solar panels, hybrid cars, wind farms while wingnuts like you hate all of those things.
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Al Gore and the Unimbomber were the opposite.
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Al Gore wants more technology so that we do not ruin our future.
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The Unimbomber liked the pre-industrial world of the Wild West just like the Wild West Sarah Palin described.
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“And that Austin plane crasher, he was a liberal libertarian.”
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So he was Rand Paul meets… Rand Paul? Rand Paul has liberal social values and is a libertarian.
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“He held strong liberal social values..”
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So, he was speaking of gay rights in his manifesto? I don’t think so.
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“…pretty much the same as patricksartor..”
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Since when was being pro-life liberal?
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My, personal social values are usually called very conservative and highly traditional.
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So, he was not like you, but he was like Rand Paul.
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If Rand Paul is a Liberal because he is a libertarian, then the Tea Party is liberal, too.
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In other words, you loose.
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You’re just not making coherent points.

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“Wonder how long it will be before we see nay [any] mention of this from MSM ?”

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“James Delingpole

James Delingpole is an English columnist and novelist. He has published several novels and two political books, How to be Right: The Essential Guide to Making Lefty Liberals History,[1][2] and Welcome to Obamaland: I Have Seen Your Future and It Doesn’t Work.[3] He writes for The Times, The Daily Telegraph, and as a television critic for The Spectator. He describes himself as a libertarian conservative.[4] He is also a fan of the Tea Party movement as shown on his Telegraph blog.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Delingpole
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One far right winger who has no expertise in climate change, is not remarkable in his own field., claims their is no climate change.
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This is news?
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This is news worthy right past “Cat gets stuck in tree – fire department rejects call.”

“Do white people deserve to be sentenced less or is there some lingering racism left in our legal system?”
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Can’t tell fro your link since you posted only part of an abstract (fee for the study). Your chosen summary left out it was a study of 3 districts, 21 years ago.

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But as always we can always count on the left to make excuses. Since you seem skin color obsessed, you would expect similar results for Cubans that I mentioned above in the post. But yet, results are different pointing to the fact that racism may not be the be all and end all answer for problems with minorities but with solutions that the left provides them.

A cheap dollar means expensive imports, boosting American jobs producing things which are usually imported and cheap exports, selling to foreign consumers, creating more jobs.
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The currency war is to depreciate currency, not a appreciate currency.
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Strong dollar = weak exports + strong imports.
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Weak dollar = strong exports + weak imports.
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They even knew this in the 1920s.

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Second, savings is not equal to investment.
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A lack of investment costs jobs. Savings, usually the purchase of securities in secondary markets is just a lateral wealth transfer, not an investment.”
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And this is because Rev Jim the college dropout knows economics better than someone who has a PhD in the subject.
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Arrogant and stupid is a tough way for you to go through life

This is how China keeps it’s currency so cheap: They do not put dollar reserves on the open market. If it hits the open market, it will depreciate the dollar and appreciate the yuan.
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So, the Chinese government is paying interest on it’s debt in order to maintain the currency exchange rate by holding, rather than cashing in, so many US dollars.
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This is going to be expensive for the Chinese government.

Rev Jim you can rationalize all you want. There were notations in Al Gore’s book that was found the Unabombers cabin that showed they were kindred spirits.

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Although it could be argued that Al Gore is a enormous hypocrite. His mansion in TN dims the entire power grid to keep the place humming. He denounces fossil fuels while he private jets everywhere and takes his fleet of SUVs.

But then that is standard for liberals; mental disorders with a large dose of hypocrisy

Weak and pathetic response even for you Rev JIm. Put on the tin foil hat and go back to sleep. You as always are neither witty or relevant, just a burden to society

“Low inflation raises concerns about the risk of deflation, a vicious circle of a downward spiral in prices and the economy.”
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Printing money (which is not exactly the way it works – it is done by opening the Federal Reserve window… which is far too advanced to explain to you right now) or increasing the money supply causes inflation or the end of deflation.
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Deflation causes huge harm. If a retailer buys a good for $X and, in order to pay for it’s retail costs (rent, employees, advertising, utilities, etc) and make a profit worthy of investing money, they must sell it for 110% the price of $X.
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If there is deflation and the going retail price goes down to 105% of $X, the retailer will lose money. This will not only result in foregoing profits, but, also, will result in job losses.
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Sorry to say you have no awareness of economics.

“A cheap dollar means expensive imports, boosting American jobs producing things which are usually imported”
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Step away for the economics texts Rev Jim. what do we produce here? Cars? That game is over for now. Oil? Not if the left can help it. Technology? Yes which means higher productivity and fewer jobs
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They even knew this in the 1920s.”
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Yes except we produced things here in the 1920s before regulations, union costs and general government interference have pushed jobs off shore. And I sincerely doubt China, India, Brazil et al will just merrily go along with trying to save our currency.
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See the problem with you reading text books, just like Obama’s economic team and never actaully doing anything you can”t apply anything to real life.

“Chairman Max Baucus of the powerful Senate Finance Committee got the threats going last month when he asked Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Douglas Shulman to investigate if certain tax exempt 501(c) groups had violated the law by engaging in too much political campaign activity.”
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So, asking a law enforcement section of a government organization to investigate if laws were broken is “intimidation”?
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I thought it was law and order. When it is anything other than white collar crime, right wingers cheer. When congressmen ask ICE to investigate undocumented workers, right wingers have an orgasm.
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In the days of our founding fathers, corporations were temporarily created by congress and not regarded as having a any rights of individuals.
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I guess corporations themselves will be walking into voting booths and suing people for slander if you call IBM naughty names.

“Yes except we produced things here in the 1920s before regulations, union costs and general government interference have pushed jobs off shore.”
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Germany and Japan have far more regulation than the US, yet produce far more.
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Obviously, if you were not moron, you would know that we do produce computers here among many other consumer goods and have car factories among many other types, not at full capacity.
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Nissan, Toyota and Mercedes all have plants in the US.
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So, the effect is the same.
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Please explain to the millions and millions of well paid German and Japanese factory workers that they are not working in factory jobs.

In other words, since James Dingleberry is a worthless wingnut who is not more valuable than a junior high school science teacher in his opinion, you call me names.
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Please find some scientists who agree with him, but, are otherwise not conservative (or even not politically active in the right wing movement) and you’ll have a source worth reading.

“Printing money (which is not exactly the way it work)”
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Again thanks for the text book lecture that nobody signed up to receive. Anybody with real world experience knows that’s not what happens but it is the vernacular used in day to day discussions.
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“Deflation causes huge harm. If a retailer buys a good for $X and, in order to pay for it’s retail costs (rent, employees, advertising, utilities, etc) and make a profit worthy of investing money, they must sell it for 110% the price of $X”
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Depending on whether the retailer uses LIFO or FIFO and the 10% margin may be sufficient if the cost of utilities and associated employee costs (like HC) doesn’t exceed that margin.
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Inflation causes its own set of problems and can cost profits and jobs as well. Inflation is no guarantee that the retailer price increases while all of their operating costs most certainly will.
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“Sorry to say you have no awareness of economics.”
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Sorry you have no awareness of life or the real world

And only corporations are corrupt and not the unions. The Demos better be careful as to what nest they disturb. It could come back and bite their int heir own corrupt keister.

” There were notations in Al Gore’s book that was found the Unabombers cabin that showed they were kindred spirits.

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“Agents arrested Theodore Kaczynski on April 3, 1996…”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski#Arrest
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“An Inconvenient Truth is a 2006 documentary film directed by Davis Guggenheim about former United States Vice President Al Gore’s campaign to educate citizens about global warming via a comprehensive slide show that, by his own estimate, he has given more than a thousand times.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth
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So, the Unibomber had psychic powers, foresaw what Gore would write ten years later and keep it in his cabin?
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You do not have any idea what environmentalism is about. It is about keeping human activity from causing damage to the ecosystem. It is not about going back to the stone age.
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Sarah Palin’s lionizing the Wild West is about going back to the stone age.

Man up Sally
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*yawns*
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quit blaming Bush
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Statement of fact, dear. Bush exploded the deficit to finance his pet war and shovel money to his rangers and pioneers.
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First that works in theory.
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No, it works in fact. That’s how the PAYGO regulation was set up; for every increase in spending, the money has to come from increased tax receipts or spending cuts. Oh, and:

The PAYGO statute expired at the end of 2002. After this, Congress enacted President George W. Bush’s proposed 2003 tax cuts (enacted as the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003), and the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act. The White House acknowledged that the new Medicare prescription drug benefit plan would not meet the PAYGO requirements…[...]
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After the expiration of PAYGO, budget deficits returned. The federal surplus shrank from $236.2 billion in 2000 to $128.2 billion in 2001, then a $157.8 billion deficit in 2002—the last year statutory PAYGO was in effect. The deficit increased to $377.6 billion in 2003 and $412.7 billion in 2004.[3] The federal deficit excluding trust funds was $537.3 billion in FY2006.[7] In the first 6 years of President Bush’s term, with a Republican controlled Congress, the federal debt increased by $3 trillion.

Guess who had control of Congress in 2007 when PAYGO was put back into place, Freeper?
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If government spending increases faster than the rise in taxes you have bigger deficits.
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Congratulations, you’ve just explained the reason for the deficit Bush created.
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The kick the can down the road and scare tactics of the left over spending on entitlements has hit the end of that road.
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Funny statement, considering the surplus that was available at the end of Clinton’s time in office and the GOP allowing PAYGO legislation to expire…Project your own faults much, Freeper?
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(To be honest – unlike Freeper, who doesn’t understand half of what’s posted at Swampland – I don’t consider the Dems pristine when it comes to limiting spending…but, a) Dems are not quite ‘the left’ and b) Dems tend to hold themselves more accountable than the other party.)

“His mansion in TN dims the entire power grid to keep the place humming. He denounces fossil fuels while he private jets everywhere and takes his fleet of SUVs.”
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He advocates erasing one’s carbon footprint through carbon credits and your concept of his energy usage is absurd.

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“..knows economics better than someone who has a PhD in the subject.”
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The Cato Institute are whores paid for by the highest bidders.
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“The Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded in 1977 by Edward H. Crane, who remains president and CEO, and Charles Koch, chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the oil conglomerate Koch Industries, Inc., the second largest privately held company (after Cargill) by revenue in the United States.[1][2]
The Institute’s stated mission is “to broaden the parameters of public policy debate to allow consideration of the traditional American principles of limited government, individual liberty, free markets, and peace” by striving “to achieve greater involvement of the intelligent, lay public in questions of (public) policy and the proper role of government.” Cato scholars conduct policy research on a broad range of public policy issues, and produce books, studies, op-eds, and blog posts. They are also frequent guests in the media.”
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Just because they have PhDs doesn’t mean that they aren’t paid advertisers.
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Sources of support:
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” * Atlantic Philanthropies
* Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation
* Earhart Foundation
* JM Foundation, founded by Jeremiah Milbank
* John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
* Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation
* Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
* Castle Rock Foundation (formerly known as The Coors Foundation)
* Scaife Foundations (Sarah Mellon Scaife, Carthage)
* Ford Foundation
* Ploughshares Fund
* Marijuana Policy Project”
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Then there are the corporate sources:
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” * Altria Group (Formerly Philip Morris)
* American Petroleum Institute
* Comcast Corporations
* FedEx Corporation
* Microsoft
* R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company
* Visa Inc.
* Wal-Mart Stores Inc.
* A number of foreign and domestic car companies.”
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Basically, when your industry is in trouble in terms of PR, like cigarettes, oil or Walmart, pay off Cato and they’ll lie for your interests.
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When you hire that woman by the hour at the hotel, Freakinpa, when she says “I love you” don’t believe her and when the Cato institute writes a paper defending your industry right after a scandal and a big donation from you, don’t believe them, either.

“A deflationary spiral is a situation where decreases in price lead to lower production, which in turn leads to lower wages and demand, which leads to further decreases in price.[7] Since reductions in general price level are called deflation, a deflationary spiral is when reductions in price lead to a vicious circle, where a problem exacerbates its own cause. The Great Depression was regarded by some as a deflationary spiral.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation#Deflationary_spiral
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“Depending on whether the retailer uses LIFO or FIFO and the 10% margin may be sufficient if the cost of utilities and associated employee costs (like HC) doesn’t exceed that margin.”
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Using FIFO (First in first out):
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Purchased six months ago at price $X with 10%X needed as markup for covering expenses such as payroll (not going to go down without an argument – more likely a layoff instead), rent (not going down until lease expires – I read commercial leases for a living and there are no clauses for deflation in commercial leases) but the selling price is only 101% X – no profit is made, employees are not paid, etc.
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Using LIFO (Last in First Out).
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New good cost 97% of old $X. New sales price is 104% old $X. Markup is 7% X, no profit is made and some layoffs take place right away. With inventory growing, the goods on the shelf originally costing $X make purchasing more good X a bad idea. Losses on good X happen and the same losses take place.
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There is no correlation between LIFO, FIFO and deflation.
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You are, most likely, most familiar with stagflation, not regular inflation. During regular inflation, unemployment approaches 0%, but, if inflation goes beyond a certain point like, 8%, it drives interest rates up too high and hampers growth.

“And only corporations are corrupt and not the unions.”
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Corporations are taking advantage of the SCOTUS ruling far more than unions.
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Any organization may be corrupt or meticulously honest depending upon the individuals involved.

“This is not about hearts bleeding, It is about keeping the customers in the grocery stores buying all of the food, toilet paper and shampoo they need (not exactly luxury items).”
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Or in cases in CA, gambling , cruises all basics of liberal life. The longer you extend those necessities the less the desire to work. It does make for a devoted voting bloc though.
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Serious economists find you amusing.”
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“The Cato Institute are whores paid for by the highest bidders.”
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Unlike the high minded liberal think tanks that run on love and sunshine. Of course when you can’t dispute something question the source- standard losing liberal tactic.

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Well you have used up your idiotic quotient today. Its time I stop arguing with the idiot-you!

“Does Maher Believe Bin Laden is Becoming Non-Violent?”
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Obviously not.
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Maher tells jokes for a living.
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Mentally ill conservatives take all jokes literally.
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I never take Bill Maher literally.

Rusty,
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Obama is not supporting Euthanasia.
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Stop listening to those voices in your head and pay attention to real people.

“… because they are worried about higher taxes and costs.”
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Why don’t you just say “Because Santa Clause told them to be good boys and girls and not to support a Democratic WH” since that makes as much sense.
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If there is an likely return on investment of, say, 5% and taxes will cost 35% of it instead of 30% of that 5%, only a moron would sit on that money.
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If companies are not investing in expansion, it is because they fear that they will have almost no return on investment or lose money since they will not have people to buy the good or service.

“He advocates erasing one’s carbon footprint through carbon credits and your concept of his energy usage is absurd.”
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Yes let the little people suffer the consequences of having to change their life style. Typical arrogant liberal response trying to justify behavior they oppose for everyone else.
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“Armed with Gore’s utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president’s 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.”

Mall Cop Paul Blart- I see you didn’t let facts get in your way when defending a liberal loon like yourself
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But its typical Algore behavior. Just like his tear jerker of a speech when he ran for Prez about his poor sister who died from lung cancer and then he proceeded to bash cigarette companies But he never returned any of the Gore fortune they made as — wait fo rit —-Tobacco farmers!.

“Please find some scientists who agree with him, but, are otherwise not conservative”
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So only a liberals view counts. Now there is a news flash. Can’t refute the fact tear apart the messaenger.

Seems the only Dingleberry is you.!!!

“Germany and Japan have far more regulation than the US, yet produce far more”
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They are also not democracies. And Japan who population more closely mirrors ours has been flat lined in its economy for decades. Good forecast as to where we will be with your great economic expertise.
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Computers? Isn’t the left pillorying Carly F in CA for pushing costs overseas and why/ Come on say it with me—lower costs.

Autos? Seems we had to being taken over by Big Gov because — come on one more time– Costs too high. Nissan, Toyota Non-union lower cost productions.
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You have the perfect remedy to bankrupt companies and this country—your stupidity!

“Or in cases in CA, gambling , cruises all basics of liberal life. The longer you extend those necessities the less the desire to work. It does make for a devoted voting bloc though.”
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Please send a link to where extra food stamps and/or cash aid was sent to recipients to cover cruises and gambling, unless you just made that up.
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“Unlike the high minded liberal think tanks that run on love and sunshine.”
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“Its largest contributors include the Ford Foundation, the Gates Foundation, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and her husband Richard Blum, Bank of America, ExxonMobil, Pew Charitable Trusts, the MacArthur Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation; and the governments of the United States, Japan, Qatar, Taipei, the District of Columbia, and the United Kingdom.”
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Except ExxonMobil, no companies in trouble with PR here.

Sorry, that was the Brookings Institute, the first progressive think tank I could find.
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Note: no unions nor environmental activists.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookings_Institution#Funders
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So, if your point is that even progressive think tanks have a pro-business, anti-labor and anti-environmentalist leaning, perhaps your point has been made.

“New sales price is 104% old $X.”
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Assumption with no basis in fact. Prices go up, income stays flat. consumer chooses not to buy.

“There is no correlation between LIFO, FIFO and deflation.”

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The wonderful thing about accounting and economic formulas is that you can adjust you numbers to make them equal whatever you like. The market usually begs to differ.

“Yes let the little people suffer the consequences of having to change their life style.”
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He sells carbon credits.
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The “little people suffer” by having private land turned into forests near their home and, therefore, used to displace the carbon emissions.
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I can live with private property near my home being reforested.
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As for his sister dying from a tobacco related death, he said in that same speech that his family were tobacco farmers and where was he going to “return” the money – dump it into the his dead sister’s grave?

“Corporations are taking advantage of the SCOTUS ruling far more than unions”
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Take advantage? You mean rights their rights affirmed by the highest court in the land.
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But what you don’t realize is that unions can’t take “advantage” since they would probably run afoul of the laws.

“So only a liberals view counts. Now there is a news flash. Can’t refute the fact tear apart the messaenger.”
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If there is a 90% consensus which, obviously, includes many people who are otherwise conservative who acknowledge climate change, find me one – just one – researcher who holds the opposite POV despite his or her otherwise being liberal.
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There are many church going people who strongly prefer lower taxes and hate unions who support the conclusion of climate change.
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So, find me one example of the opposite.

“”Germany and Japan have far more regulation than the US, yet produce far more”
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They are also not democracies.”
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I hate to break the news to you, but, since we won WWII, both Japan and Germany are Democracies.
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In both cases, their imports dramatically increased in the 1970s and 1980s – 25 to 35 years after they became democracies.
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The rest of your post is too insane to bother with.

“If there is an likely return on investment of, say, 5% and taxes will cost 35% of it instead of 30% of that 5%, only a moron would sit on that money.”
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Further evidence that liberals have no understanding of how taxes impact investment decisions. They assume investors don’t care. Investors have a hurdle rate for investments (Rev JIm the hurdle rate is not a track event).

That is why they are buying back stock instead of hiring or buying equipment.

“The wonderful thing about accounting and economic formulas is that you can adjust you numbers to make them equal whatever you like.”
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Wrong!
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It is true of accounting, which is a big game of Simon Says (a group of arbitrary rules as to set up a comparable way of looking at facts) but not at all true with economics.
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Deflation is, by definition, when the price on Day #1 is greater than the price on Day #2.
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So, all goods purchased on Day #1 are unwise to purchase until far into the future when prices are far lower – like day #700.
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Also, it means that markup must drop as must every other expense.
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Prices are sticky.
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If you paid $Y for an industrial building and have a mortgage on it for $Z while your rental income is 105% $Z, you can not and will not reduce the lease.
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If you are an employee who’s mortgage, insurance, car payments and food for your family takes up 90% of your income, you will not agree to work for 80% of your current pay.
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So, when prices go down, unable to cut leasing costs or per worker pay, they lay off workers.
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When this happens economy wide, deflation gets worse.
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Unable to pay for the lease, the company closes completely.
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Welcome to deflation: prices go down, people lose their jobs, businesses close.
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It is an extremely bad thing.

“But what you don’t realize is that unions can’t take “advantage” since they would probably run afoul of the laws.”
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Unions are incorporated.
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Unless there was a particular part of the decision saying only for profit incorporated organizations have legal personhood, then it is that. in terms of money to get involved in politics that unions are the David and large, for profit corporations are the Goliath which makes it impossible for unions to buy candidates they way that big business is doing in this election.

“Statement of fact, dear. Bush exploded the deficit to finance his pet war and shovel money to his rangers and pioneers.”
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Sorry dear its a liberal fact. Bush could not spend any money that Congress did not authorize. And Team Donkey controlled Congress since when? 2004!
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“Guess who had control of Congress in 2007 when PAYGO was put back into place, Freeper”
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Why did they wait 3 years and why are they ignoring it now– Oh right emergency spending, french for re-distributing wealth to political allies. Paygo only applies if its taxpayers getting their money back or gutting defense.
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And who controlled Congress as that budget surplus built up? Since once again the President could not fix appropriations it might just have been a Republican Congress.
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(To be honest – unlike Freeper, who doesn’t understand half of what’s posted at Swampland”
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I understand it perfectly well. You hate conservatives and Democrats that are for raising taxes, gutting defense and building a never ending stream of entitlements. For all you hot air about spending you see to have no problem with it while a the same time you maintain the delusional belief that there is an endless supply of “rich” money to tax to support that crack-like entitlement habit.

“and Democrats that are ”

Should read: and Democrats that are not

“They assume investors don’t care.”
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Who, besides the voices in your head singing the communist manifesto says that investors don’t care?
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70% of 5% is 3.5%.
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65% of 5% is 3.25%.
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Most investors who would invest in a low risk, highly liquid investment at 3.5% would, also, invest at 3.25%.
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However, the problem is that most investments would return in this low demand economy more like 3% before taxes.
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So, use stimulus to push up rate of return by getting money into consumer’s hands through public works up to 6% and investors will come running.
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Do not stimulate the economy and even with 0% taxes many businesses and individuals will not invest with such a low rate of return.
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You hallucinate a great deal when you read this blog, don’t you?
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Big disincentive to invest: unlikely to get a high rate of return before taxes.
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If taxes go up, then it will have an impact on a small percent of investors. However, if that tax money is used to stimulate the economy, it will be more than compensated for.

More than $69 million in California welfare money, meant to help the needy pay their rent and clothe their children, has been spent or withdrawn outside the state in recent years, including millions in Las Vegas, hundreds of thousands in Hawaii and thousands on cruise ships sailing from Miami.

From LAT

See Rev Jim get your head out of your backside and visit the real world.

Thank you for once again a textbook explanation and lecture that nobody signed up to have. Maybe its time to take off the tin foil hat and see how the real world works/ Which is what real people do instead of scrambling around for textbooks or wikipedia trying to explain things you cannot even imagine.

“which makes it impossible for unions to buy candidates they way that big business is doing in this election”
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The really funny but pathetic part of your statement is you are a big enough of an idiot to beli3eve it.

“Congressional Staffers Gain From Trading in Stocks ”
WSJ
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More hypocrisy from Washington politicians of both parties. Seems using insider information only applies to the little people. I wonder if Frank, Waxman and Dodd will be as apoplectic over these trades as they were over Wall Streets transgressions.
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It is an outstanding argument as to why government should stay out of business.

At least 72 aides on both sides of the aisle traded shares of companies that their bosses help oversee, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of more than 3,000 disclosure forms covering trading activity by Capitol Hill staffers for 2008 and 2009.

And Team Donkey controlled Congress since when? 2004!
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That’s either knee-jerk dumb on your part or you’re a fake troll getting your jollies. If you’re the latter, please find another, less annoying hobby.
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Dems didn’t have the majority in the House or Senate until the 2006 elections, Freeper. They weren’t seated until January of 2007 in the 110th Congress.
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Spin your way out of that one.
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I understand it perfectly well.
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No, you don’t.

I’m reading Milbank’s book on Beck. I really believe Beck is a dangerous demigogue. He is partly insane, partly a meglomaniac, partly actually believes some of what he says, and partly a greedy, uncaring bast*rd.
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No one can convince me that people like Limbaugh, Beck and Fox news do not feed and manipulate people’s fears. They still make horrendous comments about homosexuals disregarding the impact of their words. They are the people to be afraid of and to stand up to.

Freeper: You must be reading those Texas textbooks.
General MacArthur would be deeply disappointed to know he did not nurture and set up a democracy in Japan.

“”How they can go somewhere like Hawaii and be legit on aid … they can’t,” said Robert Hollenbeck, a fraud investigator for the Fresno County district attorney’s office. “This is money for basic subsistence needs.”"
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http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/04/local/la-me-welfare-20101004
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From the article you did not give a link to. (I had to, once again, highlight and google).
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It looks like you are too drunk to read or just too impatient to see the real conclusion of that story: Democrats and Republicans fully agree that these people who had used money intended to prevent starvation and homelessness among the needy will have the money taken back from them dollar for dollar while those who had done so will get free food and shelter in a place we call jail.
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When military contractors charge $100 for a wrench, should I say that Republicans want to give away our taxpayer money to the investors in The Carlyle Group, or should I say that criminals broke the law?
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When somebody marks up $100 for a wrench, they usually broke the law and are not acting as Republicans.
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When somebody spends welfare money in Vagas, they are acting like criminals.
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In both cases, there is a nice place for these people called jail.

“Which is what real people do instead of scrambling around for textbooks or wikipedia trying to explain things you cannot even imagine.”
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Freakinpa, I do not have any textbooks.
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I work in “the real world” in a for profit, privately owned business.
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As somebody who depends upon the market for income, knowing what inflation does, what inflation does and what stagflation does is important.
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If I were on welfare like you, then I guess all I would need to know is how to count to ten and make snarky remarks all day.

“I guess if you are an out and out LIAR, Paul Krugman thinks you are A-Ok!! But, if you are backed by the Tea Party, there must be something wrong with you.”
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Krugman is a political hack. He never met a Liberal cause he didn’t love.
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His economic views are so biased by his political views, that the best you can say about him is that he is a very smart Idiot.

“The really funny but pathetic part of your statement is you are a big enough of an idiot to beli3eve it.”
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Well, I know you will need your wife and daughter to count on your fingers to get up to 30 and could not possibly count up to 50, but, here is a list of the top political campaign donors:
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http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
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Guess what?
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Corporations have far, far more than unions to spend and do spend far more.
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Corporations buy far more candidates than unions can.
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Union influence is when union leaders do a better job of convincing their members to vote for candidates they support than management does in convincing those same people to vote in management’s best interest. As a general rule, unions are great places to get votes, but, for donations, you want to go to the country clubs and the corporate boardrooms.

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/06/30/art-robinson-oregon-gop-candidate-for-congress-sells-book-comparing-africans-to-retarded-children/
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Then we have TPer Art Robinson, running in Oregon. He recommends and distributes, as part of his homeschooling package, a book by George Henty who believes black people are mentally disabled. He is also a climate change denier. His theory would have us build nuclear energy reactors, dilute the waste from the reactors and sprinkle it over the US. Because….low level nuclear waste is good for you.
Tell that to the people living aroung Hanford.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/10/08/5257180-art-robinson-backs-hormesis-what-the-hecks-that
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Robinson’s theory on spreading that good old low level radiation around.
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Now, tell me again that a good share of these TPers aren’t just nuts.

Freakinpa,
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Which would you rather have:
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A) The Republican plan with no stimulus so that the pre tax rate of return for your business is 3%, but, there is not tax increase so you only pay 30% of that in taxes giving you a post tax 2.1% post tax rate of return on your investment with poor roads, bridges, dams, sewer, drainage and water systems not getting repaired.
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or
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B) The Democratic Plan which, by spending money on repairing roads, bridges, dams, sewer, drainage and water systems getting repaired stimulates the economy such that you will get a pre-tax 6% rate of return on your investment, but, due to a tax increase, paying 35% giving you a post tax rate of return of 3.9%.
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Knowing how much you hate anything even vaguely tied to government except for bombs, you would gladly prefer to make less money just to make sure that the government doesn’t get any.

Huff Post’s take on Halperin’s take (Basically Take&#178 ):
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/11/obama-white-house-faces-i_n_757972.html
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Naturally, this news was brought to you by Mark Halperin, who further reports that those who are especially inclined to dislike Obama especially dislike him, and also he hears that a lot of people are unemployed and pretty unhappy about it or something?
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argghh.. the idiocy that passes for Punditry these days.

“Krugman is a political hack.”
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How many Nobel prizes do you have, 3X?
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None?
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How many PhDs do you have?
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None?
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How much experience do you have in post doctoral Macro Economics?
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None?
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Then you have no basis to make this judgment.
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You just love attacking the messenger.
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Whatever your company produced (if you are telling the truth about once owning a company) you are, most likely, an expert in managing a company which does that. If it is tires your company made, then the next time the topic of how to organize a tire factory comes up in The Swamp, you can honestly say that your answer is better than Paul Krugman’s.

Words have consequences.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-10-11-gayattack11_ST_N.htm
Brutal attack by homophobes in NY.
Suicides by teenagers.
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Why does the rw always have to demonize the “others”?

As I said yesterday, Time.com has gone very quiet on the “foreclosure fraud” issue. Either they are doing a big story on it or they are burying it.

My relatives took in a family of Cubans after the Cuban revolution. They had great support from the Catholic church and the Cuban community. They also took in 2 young men fleeing Hungary after the revolution. Again the suport was crucial.
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https://www.forumbiodiversity.com/archive/index.php/t-1811.html
Why West Indian immigrants are successful.
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History is important and take the time to understand the different experiences of recent immigrants and African Americans and their history of slavery and the dispora.

Gallup
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Republicans Maintain Strength Among Likely Voters
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October 11, 2010 by Frank Newport
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PRINCETON, NJ — Republicans maintain a substantial advantage over Democrats among likely voters in Gallup’s generic ballot for Congress — in both lower- and higher-turnout scenarios — fueled in part by the GOP’s strong showing among independents.
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Among voters Gallup estimates to be most likely to vote at this point under either a higher- or lower-turnout scenario, Republicans maintain substantial double-digit advantages. In Gallup’s higher-turnout scenario,
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Republicans lead 53% to 41%. In Gallup’s lower-turnout scenario, Republicans lead 56% to 39%. These likely voter estimates are based on respondents’ answers to seven turnout questions, with the results used to assign a “likelihood to vote” score to each registered voter and, in turn, to create hypothetical models of the electorate based on various turnout scenarios.
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In addition to turnout, independents’ voting intentions are a critical determinant of the midterm election outcome — particularly relevant, given that more than 90% of Democrats and 90% of Republicans say they will vote for their party’s candidate in the elections. At this point, independents tilt strongly toward the Republican candidate in their district, helping shift the race in the GOP’s direction.
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Independents in general this year are more likely to lean toward identifying with the Republican Party than they are to lean toward the Democratic Party.
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Republican-leaning independents are also more likely to be classified as likely voters than are Democratic-leaning independents. Both of these factors work to the GOP’s advantage among likely voters.
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Implications
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Republicans continue to benefit in the race for control of Congress not only from their higher representation among likely voters, but also from significantly higher identification with the GOP among independent voters.

“If you’re the latter, please find another, less annoying hobby.”
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I’m betting that being a lying, idiot Republican is a full-time job.

3X,
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Constantly telling us the daily horse race predictions is uninformative.
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Here is a constantly updated website:
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http://www.electionprojection.com/index.php
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It does, at the moment, appear as if there will be a small Republican majority in the house and, when you include that Social Democrat Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman lean Democratic (one leans from the left and the other leans from the right) the Senate will be split.
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It changes daily.
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We have over three weeks left to see what will happen.

According to leftists favorite source wikipedia, Demos controlled the Senate for 4 of Bush’s 8 yrs and the House 2 of 8. But I do appreciate how you manged to ignore how Repubs controlled 6 of 8 during Clinton for both Houses. So spare us your arrogant condescension as to who spent what when.
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I guess that fact is a bit too inconvenient as to how spending was controlled
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“I understand it perfectly well.
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No, you don’t.”

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Well I am certainly put in my place by an arrogant overbearing liberal jackass.

Face it the days of you pontificating unscathed are over just as the progressive reign is coming to a close not with a bang but whining and whimpers.
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“I’m betting that being a lying, idiot Republican is a full-time job.”

Once a loser always a loser I guess is your claim to fame. I just hope you weren’t using welfare food stamp debit cards to make you bet>

apr:

Another touching story about nothing except that does nothing to address the issue but offer a rationalization of liberal bankrupt policies.

“Constantly telling us the daily horse race predictions is uninformative”
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As are you long winded irrelevant lectures but yet you persist.

Obama hits the Trifecta: Fear-mongering Desperation and racism Quite a feat for the anointed one who was to be the great uniter and post racial president.

<blockquoteThey're counting on young people staying home and union members staying home and black folks staying home," President Obama said at a rally in Philadelphia

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/11/obama_republicans_counting_on_blacks_staying_home.html

Time seems to be cutting their losses.

the White House is in over its head, isolated, insular, arrogant and clueless

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2024718,00.html#ixzz125dCY3SS

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Funny thin git also describes the progressive movement and liberal here who defend it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell-bard/the-tea-party-all-stars-t_b_757590.html
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The top 10 TP candidates and their craziness. Unfortunately, as 3x incessantly reminds us, we will be hearing more from them.

Glen Beck discovers the conspiracy by the left, Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse to remix and destroy him.
Onoz!!
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“Face it the days of you pontificating unscathed are over just as the progressive reign is coming to a close not with a bang but whining and whimpers.”
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Freak,
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WTF is wrong with you?
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Since 1980, America has gone further and further to the right.
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The right has been pontificating unscathed.
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If Obama hadn’t gone third way on both HCR and the stimulus package, far right conservatism like your nonsensical kind would be an anachronism by now.
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Unfortunately Obama wimped out and begged and pleaded for Republic Party votes.
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If Republicans get the majority now, through, it will be your party signing it’s own death warrant with the American people. Your unending fantasy that cutting back further and further slashing and burning everything that was put in place by the people to help run the economy smoothly is nothing short of insane.
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You’d better hope that you do not get the majority, because, if you do and your party governs anything like they say they will, our country is going for a double dip recession and in 2012, the people will remember this and, will almost definitely not be as forgiving.

Freakinpa,
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Who were the ones who fled Cuba?
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Were the peasant farmers the first ones to make it out?
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The truck drivers?
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The waiters from the 1950s casinos?
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No.
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Two groups came over in the largest number: people tied to the Batista regime and the upper class business people already likely to conservative, but driven to be more so in reaction to Castro.
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So, the children of well educated middle class, conservative professionals become… well educated middle class, conservative professionals.
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BFD!

“As are you long winded irrelevant lectures but yet you persist.”
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Just because big thoughts hurt your under developed neanderthal brain doesn’t mean that I am not being informative to people who have double digit IQs.

I know he said that if you elect Republicans, the Republicans will open up death panels?
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No?
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Wait, he said that Republicans will tax America so much that all jobs will disappear.
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No?
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He said that Republicans want the terrorists to win.
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No?
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He said that Republicans will unleash 16,500 armed IRS agents to roam the country lawlessly and force people to go to their doctor.
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No?
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I know! He said that Republicans will confiscate all guns.
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No?
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He said that Republicans are secret COMMUNISTS.
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No?
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He said that Republicans are secretly Nazis.
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No?
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You know a wingnut accusing a moderate of “fear mongering” is like the the Edsel calling the Minivan Rusty.
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If he said that Republicans do not believe in economics at all and will drive our economy into a double dip or even a triple dip recession, there is proof on this thread that none of our wingnuts ever took introductory Macro Economics.

Patrick,
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It is my honest opinion that Krugman is a Political Hack.
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It’s still a free country and I’m allowed to have my opinion, at least as long as Progressive don’t gain control of our country.

shepherdwrong,.
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“Guess what. Some of us care when our government is being sold to the highest bidder”.
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Funny I didn’t hear you talking about your concerns during the 2008 election when Obama had all the money and Republicans were at a major disadvantage.
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You are a hypocrite. Don’t give me any garbage about a lack of transparency. Obama and the Democrats were not transparent about their campaign fund last election.
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Man Up and be honest for a change.

“If Obama hadn’t gone third way on both HCR and the stimulus package, far right conservatism like your nonsensical kind would be an anachronism by now.
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Unfortunately Obama wimped out and begged and pleaded for Republic Party votes”
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Wishful thinking. See liberals can only get majority power by lying about what they believe and with the complicity of the MSM. The public swallowed the warm and fuzzy nonsense then once the shades were pulled back your pathetic philosophy was exposed. And America puked up the crap the liberals were feeding.The anachronisms are the left who believe thaty people want the crap they are selling.
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“You’d better hope that you do not get the majority”
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This sounds like the normal whining and crying from a arrogant pathetic group who didn’t get their way again.

“BFD!”
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Sounds like more sour grapes from a whining crying loser who once again can’t defend his lossing philosophy.
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Isn’t it amazing how many ethic groups of a variety of skin tones who come here to assimilate, study and work hard don’t seem to have the same issues of crime, poverty, educational failures as the victim groups of the left.

“Just because big thoughts”
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The next time you get one alert the media. That will be news!

More idiotic obfuscation without a point other than the true racists in this country remain on the left.

Good job Rev JIm you excel at something—rank stupidity!

Well you shifted from your crroks are worse than ours to “they are all dumb and crazy except us”
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Amazing how the brilliant, sane beings on the left find abysmal failure at every turn.

“..I’m allowed to have my opinion..”
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And so am I.
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And it is my opinion that you’re opinion is not based upon fact.
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Freedom of speech is a two way street.
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Wingnuts don’t get that.
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Somebody can do something like burn a Koran or have Jesus in urine and no law can stop them. Also, we are allowed to protest against or express disgust at either one of or both of those things and no law can stop us.
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You are allowed an opinion and I am allowed an opinion of your opinion, too.

“You are a hypocrite. Don’t give me any garbage about a lack of transparency.”
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Obama’s campaign was transparent and had a huge number of tiny $10, $50 and $100 donations.
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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
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You’re re-writing history, 3X and adore using the words “liar” and “hypocrite”.
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I can just imagine you offline. You must be a real pain in the ass to deal with if you insult everybody around you so easily.

“See liberals can only get majority power by lying about what they believe and with the complicity of the MSM.’
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Change that word to “centrists” and it may make some sense.
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The president promised single payer. We got halfway deal with insurance companies in the middle.
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The President promised the closing of Gitmo and resuming our 225 year ban on torture. He didn’t close Gitmo.
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Point by point, Freakinpa, Obama ran to the left of where he was.
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“The public swallowed the warm and fuzzy nonsense..”
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“It’s morning in America” – Reagan’s warm and fuzzy. So, Reagan was going to solve Americas Stagflation with coffee and eggs?
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“A kinder and gentler America” – Bush Sr. “A Thousand Points of Light” – Bush Sr. appealing to conservatives who spent the 1960s on LSD and were still high.
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“Um, oh, is this mic on…” – GWB.
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“We’re going take back America!” – the Tea Party.
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Take it back from whom? Was there a foreign invasion? Are Democrats not Americans? Are blacks not American?
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Then there is Sarah with her “Mama Grizzlies ” and “pink elephants” best guess is that it is another appeal to baby boomers who did too many drugs and haven’t stopped hallucinating yet.
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Then, again, Freak, you still hallucinate when online. You keep on seeing things and hearing things from the communist manifesto and keep on saying that I or some other liberal said it.
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You did alot of drugs in your 20s, didn’t you?

“Isn’t it amazing how many ethic groups of a variety of skin tones who come here to assimilate, study and work hard…”
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Yes, so you should stop worrying about Mexicans and Muslims hiding in your closet ready to eat you.
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“…don’t seem to have the same issues of crime, poverty, educational failures as the victim groups of the left”
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Left or right on crime:
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Republicans want the death penalty all of the time.
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Democrats want rehab for some situations for first time offenders especially when it is possession alone and not possession with intent to sell.
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Not too different.
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On education: Obama adopted No Child Left behind but added funding to make it work.
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Except for Cubans, Latinos vote for Democrats. Haitians and most Asians vote for Democrats.
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After the Republican Party succeeded in pissing off the Muslim Americans and Arabian Americans, Muslims and Arabians are Democrats, too.
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Of immigrants, Eastern Europeans are often Republican.
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So, you’re bringing up the Polish vote?
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With this phobia of immigrants, you’ll soon lose the Polish, Czechoslovakian, Russian and Cuban vote if you keep it up.
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“… as the victim groups of the left” I have no idea what you meant by this. You consider yourself a victim, Freak?

“The next time you get one alert the media.”
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But you’ll never hear about it since Fox is against big thoughts. They spoon feed you right wing propaganda and small minds like yours eat it up like candy.

“…the true racists in this country remain on the left.”
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Didn’t you get that quote from David Duke?
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I know the 12% black community with a significantly lower income are now, in your twisted mind, the powerful elitists and the wealthy whites who finance Fox are the the poor, helpless ones.

“Well you shifted from your crroks are worse than ours to “they are all dumb and crazy except us”"
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You’ve got it backwards, Freak.
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The Republican Party switched from Bush and Cheney robbing America to give as much money as possible to Haliburton as well as favors to Republican donors to house and senate Republicans to, two years later, a bunch of nuts.
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Apr hasn’t changed.
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The Republican party just went from corrupt to severely mentally ill.

freeper: If you aren’t too illiterate read the linky.

“Take it back from whom? Was there a foreign invasion? Are Democrats not Americans? Are blacks not American?”
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Take it back for the looney left and no there was no foreign invasion. The worst enemy in this country is the enemy within who continually tries to destroy the freedom and individual rights while removing responsibilities for any action.

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And I see you did not fail to make the token and unfounded race baiting comment.
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You see that race card was played during the HC debate. If you disagreed you were a racist. Now the ugly secrets of what is actaully in the bill is coming out and all those “racists” who voted for Obama are running.
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During the campaign it was directly at Americans who were tired of the war. MSM ignored the racist rantings of Rev Wright who in Obama’s book was his inspiration but got thrown under the bus. Or how wealth re-distribution was ignored. Joe the Plumber nailed Obama on it and the MSM reaction? Attack Joe the Plumber.

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“You did alot of drugs in your 20s, didn’t you”
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Untrue and irrelevant. But what is relevant are the delusions you harbor NOW!

Rev Jim you idea of transparency is as confused and idiotic as your other ideas.

You need to worry about your current delusions not faux revisionist history form “liberal facts”
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“Faced with a huge influx of donations over the Internet, the campaign has also chosen not to use basic security measures to prevent potentially illegal or anonymous contributions from flowing into its accounts, aides acknowledged. Instead, the campaign is scrutinizing its books for improper donations after the money has been deposited.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102803413.html

“Which would you rather have:”
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Isn’t it fun when you can take numbers and create a scenario that will prove your point—None based on real world happenings but then you are delusional.
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