Morning Must Reads: Pragmatic

This little girl has you beat, Rahm:

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/by-their-fruits/

Bye Rahm

Have a safe journey home. And show them who is boss; you know how to do it.

Dessert: “Right Wing Radio Duck.”

Awesome.

Outside of the Simpsons and, occasionally, the family guy, I haven’t liked a cartoon since I was ten years old – but that was great. I loved it!

So Rusty is really Donald Duck?
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It all makes sense now — the blind spasms of impotent rage, the incomprehensible rants, the lack of pants….

patrick,
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Started to disagree with you and give a examples “Doonesbury, Dilbert, Pogo” but then I realized you were talking about the animated variety.
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But you’re right… those suck.

Am I allowed to be completely fed up with the word “pragmatic” when used in a political setting?

As the survey shows most people tend to watch Fox News for election news and few people watch the very Liberal MSNBC.
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It’s is also interesting that most people see the Conservative personalities as having the most positive impact on Political debate and the Liberal personalities as having the most negative impact on Political debate.

It’s a good illustration as to whom is the voice of Mainstream Americans and who is not.
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NEW POLITICO POLL
Politico/George Washington University Battleground poll (a bi-partisan poll).
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When you use cable TV news channels to get news about the election, are mainly getting
information from CNN, Fox News, MSNBC or some other cable news channel or website?
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” Mainly Fox News 42%
• Mainly CNN 30%
• Mainly MSNBC 12%
• Other cable news channel/website 9%
• Unsure/Refused 7%
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Please tell me if you think this person has a positive impact or a negative impact on political debate in this country.
…………Positive… Negative …Never
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Bill O’Reilly 49% 32% 12%
RushLimbaugh 36% 52% 5%
RachelMaddow 18% 18% 55%
Glenn Beck 38% 32% 23%
Keith Olbermann 23% 25% 42%
EdSchultz 11% 11% 70%
SeanHannity 35% 25% 34%
Jon Stewart 34% 22% 34%

What did I miss?

No wonder Donald is going quackers.

“Here’s an absolutely deranged segment of Fox News’s web show ‘Strategy Room,’ promoting the idea that we’re in the End Times, that the economic downturn and the ‘One World Order’ is prophesied in the Bible, and that Barack Obama is the Antichrist.

Yes, really. This is the ‘news’ network behind the rise of the far right, and this clip is one of the clearest examples yet of the sheer insanity driving the propaganda they promote.

They’re telling the rubes the world is coming to an end.”

I didn’t mean the funnies like Doonesbury. I meant, animated TV shows I didn’t like.

Welcome to Republicanland.
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Firefighters watch as home burns to the ground
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http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Firefighters-watch-as-home-burns-to-the-ground-104052668.html

Business class warfare.

“The bulk of the money is being spent by conservatives, who have swamped their Democratic-aligned competition by 7 to 1 in recent weeks. The wave of spending is made possible in part by a series of Supreme Court rulings unleashing the ability of corporations and interest groups to spend money on politics. Conservative operatives also say they are riding the support of donors upset with Democratic policies they perceive as anti-business.[...]

‘Folks across America should be worried about these anonymous groups that go into an election and try to buy a favorable result,’ said Braley spokeswoman Caitlin Legacki. ‘People have no idea where the money came from. It’s difficult to take recourse.’”

Classic “Progressivism”. The “poor suffering children”. How a British progressive sees the future of children with disabilities.
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Nothing short of unbelievable.
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Ed Shultz at “One Nation” rally. Oh yes Ed, please do tell us all exactly what “real Americans” are going to do.
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I am sure the same enlightened liberals that decried the proposed buring of the Koran as offensive will now go full throttle on :it’s Free speech”
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Liberal hypocrisy on full display again
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An art exhibit that critics say features Jesus receiving oral sex from a man is under fire in Loveland, CO. The artwork is part of an exhibit in the city’s public museum.

C-span uses Beck’s Restoring Honor Rally photos they cropped in order to make the “One Nation” rally look bigger than it actually was. Imagine that.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/c-span-uses-828-crowd-shot-for-one-nation-promo/
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See the photo difference between the two events.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/even-msm-doesnt-buy-one-nation-claim-that-102-rally-attendance-topped-becks/
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Compare the difference. Look at the truth for yourself.

So, here’s the Right Winger who’s actions prompted me to join Swampland.
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Don’t get a pilot’s license, Rusty!
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Ed Shultz tells the truth.
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I guess you can’t handle the truth.

Unlike you, Freakinpa, I do not look for pictures of men giving or receiving oral sex – or any other kind of sex – with another man.
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Now I know what you do when you are not here but online – looking for pictures of gay sex.
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No thanks, Freak, I have no interest in gay sex, so, you can go to London by yourself.

You can keep your .. Nevermind!
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And so it begins, daily there are companies and insurance companies dropping coverage as a result of ObamaCare- our country saving fix. It seems the liberals plan is to give coverage to the young to collect more taxes, then deny treatment to the elderly to save money. That’s how liberals count on HC to reduce the deficit. How ingenious!

Last year, I ordered a CT scan of the chest on a 63-year-old patient whose chest X-ray had revealed a lung nodule. I had no problem getting the test approved by his private insurance company. The radiologist suggested that I repeat the CT scan this year to make sure the nodule hasn’t turned into cancer.

But this year, the same insurance company is denying the test, having clamped down on several elective services while also raising its premiums. This company now has to cover children with pre-existing conditions and can place no lifetime limits on care. It is struggling to preserve its profits as Obamacare kicks in — profits that, to begin with, are only approximately 4 percent of its total revenue.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/248520/you-can%E2%80%99t-keep-plan-you-have-marc-siegel

Why risk your sterling reputation for being ‘fair and balanced’?

“One possible answer: A person close to News Corp. told me this week the company didn’t realize its $1 million to the RGA would become public. And the $1 million to Chamber of Commerce was supposed to be secret as well.”

I wonder how come the corporations have all this spare money to buy elections (ooops, I meant use for speech) but can’t afford to hire workers.

“This company now has to cover children with pre-existing conditions”
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Oh, the horror!

You can keep your ..
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You can. It’s the insurance company that screwing you, just like they did pre-ACA. The question is, “Why?”.
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You’ve even posted the obvious answer, Freeper:
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…This company…is struggling to preserve its profits…
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That you have no issue choosing corporate profitability over sick kids is no surprise, Freeper.

“Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina, the state’s largest health insurer, will announce this morning that it plans to refund $155.8 million to about 215,000 individual customers.

Blue Cross CEO Brad Wilson is scheduled to unveil the move at a news conference in Raleigh with Insurance Commissioner Wayne Goodwin.

They’ll also announce that Blue Cross will raise rates for individual policies next year slightly less than previously planned, under an agreement with the state Insurance Department. In August, Blue Cross had sought a 6.97 percent average rate increase for about 300,000 individual members, but instead has agreed to an average rate hike of 5.37 percent.”

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/09/20/1706309/blue-cross-to-refund-1558-million.html#ixzz11Ow77Xyk
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I’m sorry, Freakinpa, you said that everybody’s rates were going up higher due to HCR?
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Not everybody’s.
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Maybe the market should decide that these inefficient companies go out of business if they can not provide well… Oh, wait, I thought you were the capitalist – never mind.

10:10 video. The way to end global warming, progressive style.
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2 things 3x:
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1) Fox News watchers are the least informed amongst news watchers.
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http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions
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2) Spongebob Squarepants consistently beats all of the cable news networks in ratings. I don’t think that would encourage me to follow his advice on socio-political economics and/or governance.

No need to worry, freeinpa. The biggest tell-tale of someone with regressive homosexual thoughts is for that person to accuse someone else of those homosexual thoughts.
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Here we have evidence by our own partricksartor.
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Isn’t that right patty? Why hide it patty, come out of the closet.

Frank Rich on the benefits of having a Christine O’Donnell representing your party.

“But surely the larger motive for his retreat was the dawning recognition of just how valuable O’Donnell is to the G.O.P.’s national aspirations in November — even should she ultimately lose her own race in blue Delaware. Whatever her other talents, she’s more than willing to play the role of useful idiot for her party. She gives populist cover to the billionaires and corporate interests that have been steadily annexing the Tea Party movement and busily plotting to cash in their chips if the G.O.P. prevails.

While O’Donnell’s résumé has proved largely fictional, one crucial biographical plotline is true: She has had trouble finding a job, holding on to a home and paying her taxes. In this, at least, she is like many Americans in the Great Recession, including the angry claque that found its voice in the Tea Party. For a G.O.P. that is even more in thrall to big money than the Democrats, she couldn’t be a more perfect decoy.

By latching on to O’Donnell’s growing presence, the Rove-Boehner-McConnell establishment can claim it represents struggling middle-class Tea Partiers rather than Wall Street potentates and corporate titans. O’Donnell’s value is the same as that other useful idiot, Michael Steele, who remains at the Republican National Committee only because he can wave the banner of “diversity” over a virtually all-white party that alternately demonizes African-Americans, Latinos, gays and Muslims.

O’Donnell is particularly needed now because most of the other Republican Tea Party standard-bearers lack genuine antigovernment or proletarian cred.”

And another edition of the liberals if you can’t beat them, smear them.

She introduced Allred yesterday by declaring that she was doing the “unthinkable” for “getting your client deported” not to mention the Social Security document Allred is using as evidence will get her “barbecued” if she takes it to court, moreover, Greta thinks that Allred is using this case to ’subvert the electoral process.’ It’s all “rotten,” says Susteren. And that was just the first minute of the interview. Perhaps needless to say, it went downhill from there.

Later, after Allred admited this case will never go to court, Greta responded “that’s just another horrible thing to do, why put it out in the press, why do this to her, why smear her, why even call her a liar.” Allred, whose response throughout is that Whitman denied knowledge of the S.S. document to the press so therefore must be lying, finally aggravates Greta enough that she declares Allred is essentially “blackmailing” Meg Whitman.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/greta-van-susteren-to-gloria-allred-youre-blackmailing-meg-whitman/

Rusty,
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You do know that Time posted this already, don’t you?
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You do know what dark humor is, don’t you?
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In England, dark humor is very, very popular:
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We’ve been through this:
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People popping like balloons is funny to some people, but, for me… not so much.

Fred Phelps has a pew with Michigan Assistant Attorney General Andrew Shirvell’s name on it.

“Shirvell’s claim to fame is that he’s the force behind a batwacky website called Chris Armstrong Watch.

The Chris Armstrong in question is the openly gay student body president at Shirvell’s alma mater, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.

Shirvell’s site is filled with rants calling for the duly elected Armstrong to resign over his ‘activist homosexual agenda,’ and includes such visual extras as rainbow swastikas on Armstrong’s face. [...]

Anyhow, you’d think that once it was revealed that Andrew Shirvell was behind this venal and just plain weird website going after a college student that he would at least be circumspect – if not downright apologetic.

You’d be wrong.”

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/09/29/ac.asst.da.targets.gay.student.cnn

(Cooper’s good with low-hanging fruit like Shirvell – video at the link)

Talk about your Astroturf! The left tried t manufacture support through coercion and compulsion but yet could not muster anything close to the support that Beck’s rally received. And let”s hear it for another chorus of are education system needs more money. What it needs is teachers that teach and not proselytize for the bankrupt policy of liberals.
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High School kids are forced to attend the one Nation rally in order to graduate. SSL (Student Service Learning) hours are required by many state governments to graduate High School, so kids must attend these rallies. Apparently, the organizers were willing to use any means to bring thousands to the rally.
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Not only were thousands of supporters given free rides by unions and the NAACP to the rally, far left teachers at High School for Math, Science and Engineering were giving students class credits to attend

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/high-school-students-admit-they-are-getting-class-credit-to-attend-leftist-one-nation-rally-video/

” but instead has agreed to an average rate hike of 5.37 percent.”
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Did you read what you wrote or were there too many words

“No thanks, Freak, I have no interest in gay sex, so, you can go to London by yourself.”
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Just another obfuscation by the looney left. I do like how they try to denigrate soemone by an implication of being gay. But isn’t the gay anthem part of Team Donkey’s hymn book? It seems tolerance has been thrown overboard along with free speech by th eleft.

“I guess you can’t handle the truth.”
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BWAHHAHAHA!
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Rev Jim stop hitting the hookah pipe so early in the day

If you believe Shultz is telling the truth, sartor, then you are more deeply psychotic and more sick than I had originally imagined.

“That you have no issue choosing corporate profitability over sick kids is no surprise, Freeper”
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Oh the old for the children tear jerker from the jerks on the left. Minor problem with, well logic is a stretch,. its not the children not getting the care it’s the elderly. Seems Team Donkey doesn’t wan them to die quickly just quietly.
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And the left’s “we don’t need no stinking profits” will be a sure path for insurance companies to became GM– bankrupt and essentially owned by the government. How dare an insurance company try to preserve 4% profit rate when the liberals are trying to do God’s work, They should be tarred and feathered. But hey 39% tax rates are “fair”
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Eric Cantor: habitual liar or complete moron?

“It’s a rather classic example demonstrating the fact that Cantor simply has no idea what he’s talking about.

“We’ve got to stop this cycle of spending money we don’t have. This spending and debt we’ve incurred over the last two years has exceeded that which this country has incurred over the last 200.”

For the record, since President Obama took office, the U.S. has added $2.8 trillion to the national debt. That same debt was $10.6 trillion the day the president was sworn in. [...]

What’s more, it’s worth emphasizing that this is the same Cantor who helped Bush/Cheney add $5 trillion to the debt in just eight years, and is currently pushing to add another $4 trillion to the debt in the form of tax cuts for the wealthy.

And just for good measure, let’s also not forget that in August, it was none other than Cantor who said the debt didn’t matter nearly as much as economic growth anyway.”

Right, instead of Fox News you can get all of your news from Family Guy, SNL, Jon Stewart, Steve Colbert and Bill Maher. That’s what the elite liberals do.

Hmm wasn’t this the reason (lie) we were told that the stimulus was being used? Oh it was only to keep paying them not to actually work.

WELCOME TO DEMOCRATLAND

Showing who is spending how much and where.

“This interactive tracks campaign spending by interest groups and political parties in the 2010 midterm elections and will be updated every Tuesday through Election Day. This week’s table shows that one conservative interest group, American Crossroads, spent nearly as much on campaign ads last week as the Democrats’ House and Senate committees combined. The Republicans’ Senate committee made an aggressive move into West Virginia. And the National Association of Realtors becomes the first group on the top 10 to support candidates from both parties.

For the week ending September 26, groups spent a total of $15,495,362, with $10,620,174 on behalf of Republicans and $4,875,188 on behalf of Democrats. “

Banks are still be shut at record pace and there were 829 banks on the FDIC “problem bank list” at the end of Q2. Credit unions are now being bailed out by the federal government.
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And this is how Democrats define success

State regulators in Florida and Washington shut down two banks on Friday, bringing the total number of U.S. bank failures for 2010 to 129.

Moment,
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” Fox News watchers are the least informed amongst news watchers.”
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Here’s your survey. As the saying goes “Figures Don’t Lie, But Liars Use Figures.
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“{Audiences Know the Most?
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Attention to the news is strongly associated with knowledge levels, but some news audiences know considerably more than others. Overall, 35% of the public was classified as having a high level of knowledge – on average, 18 correct answers out of the 23 total questions. Half or more of the audiences for six media sources scored this high: the comedy news shows and major newspaper websites (54% in the high knowledge group), the NewsHour (53%), National Public Radio (51%) and Rush Limbaugh’s radio show (50%). Regular readers of news magazines were not far behind (48%).
By contrast, the regular audiences for many other sources scored no higher than the sample average. The audiences for morning news (34% high knowledge), local TV news (35%), Fox News Channel (35%), blogs (37%), and the network evening news (38%) were not significantly different from the norm for the whole sample (35%). The audiences for CNN, internet news sites such as Google and Yahoo, local newspapers, and TV news organization websites scored slightly higher (41%-44% high knowledge).”

Talkin’ ’bout hard times | Lord those hard times | Who knows better than I?

“Wal-Mart executives have cited the midnight rush for the past year as evidence that stressed consumers are stretching the limits of the ‘paycheck cycle.’ The company hasn’t disclosed exact figures, but it says purchases made with electronic-benefits cards have surged in the past two years.

Participation in the federal food-stamp program swelled from 26 million Americans in 2007 to more than 33 million last year, and it continues to surge. As of June, the latest figures available, more than 41.2 million people were receiving monthly assistance, which averaged $133.36 a person.

Similarly, the U.S. Agriculture Department’s supplemental nutrition grant program for women, infants and children, known as WIC, saw participation grow beyond 9.3 million last year, up from 8.7 million two years ago, government figures show.

Many customers in the Houston Wal-Mart during the wee hours Friday were young mothers whose WIC money had just kicked in on their Texas Lone Star benefits cards.”

Oh the lies keep coming from those on the progressive left.
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Exactly what our dear little grapecrush fails to disclose is that Cantor in the minority of Congress since 2006 was not responsible for the largest portion of the debt and spending.
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The Congress controlled since 2006 has more than quadrupled the debt and budget.
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Imagine that. All along it has been Democrats spending like drunken sailors, but grapey wants to blame it all on Republicans like Cantor.
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Surprise, surprise.

grape,
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Just like they should be aware of George Soros who with a few of his Socialist buddy’s finance the Left. He may not be totally hidden but few Americans know he exits.
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Now that the right has funding similar to the left your all upset. Too bad. You had the advantage in the last election. A turn around is fair play.

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Politico/George Washington University Battleground poll (a bi-partisan poll)
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“Please tell me if you think this person has a positive impact or a negative impact on political debate in this country. If you do not recognize the name, just say so. Here is the first one”.
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Ed Schultz
Positive Impact…..11%
Negative Impact….11%
Never Heard of…..70%
Unsure……………..8%

What saying is applicable for people like 3xfire who are too stupid to understand figures at all?
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The evidence you cite there, 3xfire, shows that Fox News viewers are indeed vastly less informed than people who get their news from PBS or NPR and statistically less informed than people who get their news from CNN, the major network evening news shows, and local newspapers.
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Fox News viewers are, as claimed above, among the least informed people out there. Maybe when you get done high-fiving yourself, you can have someone explain all the numbers to you.

Indeed. It stayed true to the old Disney ‘toon formula while driving home a major point. Walt woulda been proud I think.
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RE other more modern ‘toons – it’s sad when Cartoon Network has HUMANS IN IT!!! What the…?????

Maybe the recently-deposed Rick Sanchez is El Donald.

If Ed’s so insignificant how come YOU KEEP BRINGING HIM UP?????

Liberals thought one form of expression — a Koran — should not be burned. Liberals think another form of expression — a painting — should not be banned. In both instances, they’re for First Amendment expression, and against its repression by either the mob or the government? How is there any hypocrisy there?
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By the way, that artist is a hack who intentionally seeks this kind of controversy in order to get talked about and sell more paintings. Congrats on helping him out.

Following the lead of the successful Missouri initiative, which passed with 71 percent of the vote, Arizonans, Coloradans and Oklahomans will decide this fall whether to approve proposed constitutional amendments that would allow them to opt out of key provisions of President Obama’s signature national health care law.

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/3/voters-in-3-states-to-consider-opting-out-of-obama/

We’ve had an inordinate amount of RustFreep on this thread. What kinda oats have they been fed today?

RE pic: Live long and…Good Lord, did Spock go on a feeding binge?

If anyone ever doubted as to how Krugman’s porch swings, all you need to do is read this recent op-ed.
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In it, Krugman spells out all of his fears and nightmares. Just like the rest of the lame stream media, he goes for the bogeyman in conservative politics. Calling wrongly as did Nancy Pelosi, the Tea Party just astro-turf.
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My oh my. Won’t Nancy and Paulie be so surprised come November.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/04/opinion/04krugman.html?src=me&ref=general

There is nothing funny about this video, and if you think it is funny I feel sorry for your family and anyone that comes in contact with you. Theres no telling when you will want a good laugh and blow someone up.

If you approve of this video you are sick and need to check in to a facility to protect the rest of the rational public from your deranged sense of comedy.

“If Ed’s so insignificant how come YOU KEEP BRINGING HIM UP?????”
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Because he is the poster boy for what liberals truly believe and how they acted when left to their own devices: hate-filled loon.

Freepy, you don’t think we should be paying firefighters a salary, we should only pay them while they’re putting out a fire? Really?
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This was a Republican run county. This is how Republicans want to govern. This is the Republican philosophy in action. Don’t complain to me if the outcome isn’t to your liking.

The hypocrisy is the left decried the burning of the Koran as hate-filled and would anger terrorists (assuming they need help) while the other is just art expression (no hate here move along). Or its OK to hate Christians.
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“By the way, that artist is a hack who intentionally seeks this kind of controversy in order to get talked about and sell more paintings. Congrats on helping him out.”
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And the ones buying this hack will be the looney left. I also doubt that the left’s silence on this has anything to do with the artist not getting publicity.

By 3x’s logic, Lady Gaga and Spongebob Squarepants are the most qualified people to run the country. Both of them are more popular and better know than anyone on Fox or MSNBC.
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Popularity does not equal intelligence. Unless, apparently, you’re a Republican.

“I also doubt that the left’s silence on this has anything to do with the artist not getting publicity”
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You’re certainly doing your best to promote him, Freepy. I’m sure he’s appreciative of your support.

“But hey 39% tax rates are “fair”"
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Yes. Very, very fair.
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http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=213

Exactly what our dear little grapecrush fails to disclose is that Cantor in the minority of Congress since 2006 was not responsible for the largest portion of the debt and spending.
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And what our mendacious little FreeDumbLog fails to mention is that:

In September and October, [Cantor], along with the Republican leadership, supported the $700 billion Treasury rescue plan, called the Troubled Asset Relief Program.

http://www.propublica.org/article/bank-employing-gop-house-leaders-wife-got-bailout-bucks-090123
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So, when you want to blame Dems exclusively for what was probably the last bipartisan bill to get through Congress, we all know that you’re being a hyperpartisan liar.

Hard to believe now, but before President Bush signed the $700 billion rescue plan into law in October 2008, it passed the House by a 228-205 vote, with 91 Republicans in support, and the Senate by a 74-25 vote, with 32 Republicans. But you won’t hear much bragging. The loudest theme on the fall campaign trail is full-throated outrage at the depravity of the bailouts and those who voted for them.

The political fallout from TARP has gotten steadily worse. It has given rise to the Tea Party and contributed to the record number of incumbents defeated in primaries. Many more will go down in November. Yet the economic news about TARP has gotten consistently better. It will cost taxpayers a fraction of that $700 billion, and may end up costing them nothing at all.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/09/tarp-the-forbidden-bipartisan-success/63803/
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Now, I’m just going to sit back and watch you try to weasel and spin this, laughing at you all the while.

“Freepy, you don’t think we should be paying firefighters a salary, we should only pay them while they’re putting out a fire? Really?”

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So you agree they were being paid taxpayer money not to fight the fire. I guess its no different than teachers being paid to teach. In the end no difference in results.

I am promoting him to who? You? So you become interested by someone outlining hate by the left? And isn’t his hack a professor at Stanford.

More evidence that liberals and higher education are an oxymoron.

Here’s some advice: If you think he doesn’t matter then IGNORE HIM. Obviously you’re scared of what he has to say. If he was spewing out babble like your neocon reprobates you’d think he was God’s gift to talk radio!

“Yes. Very, very fair.”
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So 4% profit margins are an outrage but 39% tax rates are “very very fair”.

Yes liberalism is a mental disorder

You had the advantage in the last election. A turn around is fair play.
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That ol’ demon Soros…
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Except that – when it comes to billionaire funders of political activism, he’s relatively late to the game. Ypur right-wing has sugar daddies whose (visible) financial support goes back decades.
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http://mediamattersaction.org/transparency/

“Lady Gaga and Spongebob Squarepants are the most qualified people to run the country

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Isn’t that the Secret Service code names for Barry & Michelle?
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” Obviously you’re scared of what he has to say. If he was spewing out babble like your neocon reprobates you’d think he was God’s gift to talk radio”

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Scared? No amused. But he is spewing babble that the reprobates on the left spew. Bu there is a clue for you. Nobody truly listens to him because the vast majority in this country believe that radical liberalism is a mental disorder and want no part of it. Its a failed philosophy globally– just you and Ed seem to think otherwise.

I’m amazed when the local TV station makes the national news.
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Was listening on the radio on the way to work this AM to a couple of personalities discussing this.
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Thye normally are pretty well conservative in the points they bring up but their take this morning was that there was just something “wrong” about what happened.
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The home owner in question (and a few of the others inthe same development) had not been paying these fees because they thought it was a duplication of services already provided.
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This weekend was very windy, especially Saturday. I’m waiting for the situation to arise in which a fire, in a dwelling owned an “unpaid” citizen, either spreads beyond their property causing damage to “client” property owners, or, in order to prevent further damage, they have to save the “uninsured” property as a preventive measure to others.
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I don’t see this ending here. I see SOMEONE having to make SOME sort of “face-saving” change to present policy because the moral “optics” of this, especially to the community in question, are just awful!

Who Speaks for Most Americans?
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Americans more likely to see Republicans than Democrats representing their Views and Values.
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On the Role of Government, Parties’ Ratings Look Like 1994
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by Lydia Saad September 21, 2010
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PRINCETON, NJ — Americans’ opinions about how well the Democratic Party represents their views on the role of government have soured in recent years. The percentage saying the party is doing either very or moderately well on this has dropped from 57% in October 2006 to 44% today.
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Over the same period, the Republican Party’s image on the role of government has held fairly steady and, as a result, the GOP now leads on this dimension, similar to its position in October 1994.
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More specifically, according to the Aug. 27-30 USA Today/Gallup survey, fewer than half of Americans, 44%, now say the Democratic Party represents their views on the role of government either very or moderately well, while 54% say it does this not very or not at all well. Americans are more evenly divided in their views of the Republican Party in this arena, with 52% generally saying it is doing well and 47% not well.
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After the 1994 elections, which saw the Democrats lose majority control of Congress to the Republicans for the first time in nearly a half century, the Democrats went on to lead the Republicans on this measure in 1999, 2005, and 2006. The current reversal is yet another sign that a shake-up of the political balance in Washington may be looming.
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Republicans Also Lead for Representing Values
Americans’ perceptions of how well each party represents their values show a similar trend.
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Democrats have lost ground on this dimension in recent years while Republicans have maintained their ground or possibly gained a little ground, resulting in a distinct Republican advantage, 56% to 49%, again similar to the parties’ 1994 standing.

“They have vilified you. They do not want you to organize in the workplace.”
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True. All three of you speak of unions at the level right below the Mafia and just an inch above child molesters.
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“They suppress your vote..”
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Florida 2000.
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“They delay the organization of collective bargaining.”
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True.
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“We must fight the forces of evil – the conservatives in this country.”
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True.
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“They talk about the constitution, but they do not want to live by it.”
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Like the Burlington Coat Factory Community Center.
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“They talk about our forefathers, but they want discrimination.”
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True. The Burlington Coat Factory Community Center, Mosques throughout the US, the Arizona laws requiring police to harass Latinos even at the expense of time otherwise dedicated to murder investigations. (The law would have let individuals sue if the police do not enforce immigration laws, but not murder, rape, organized crime, child molesters… So, intelligent police supervisors would have required police to drop everything for immigration enforcement to prevent being sued.)
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“They want to change this country.”
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Yes, you want to forbid unions and remove all care for the sick, the elderly and the poor (known as “entitlements”).
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Hence, he is telling the truth.

Minor problem with, well logic is a stretch,. its not the children not getting the care it’s the elderly.
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Funny! Freeper thinks that insurance companies have separate pools for each demographic they serve.
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Anyway, what does this have to do with people not being able to choose their own doctor? You’re making an argument for private insurance’s beef with the ACA more than what problems a doctor or patient might have with it…
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…And insurance companies denied compensation for procedures and tests prior to the passage of the ACA, right? The ACA is just being used as a scapegoat, just like trial lawyers and medical care ‘overusers’ were before that bill passed.
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And the left’s “we don’t need no stinking profits” will be a sure path for insurance companies to became GM– bankrupt and essentially owned by the government.
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Because one of America’s biggest manufacturers is exactly like a health insurance company. Right.
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Regardless, aren’t you righties the ones that go around proclaiming that the market decides who are the strongest that survive?

I do not know how so few people can post so many posts with so little to say.

“I also doubt that the left’s silence on this has anything to do with the artist not getting publicity.”
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I’d have a better chance of getting struck by lightening than finding out about a gay sex Jesus picture in London, England.
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My knowledge or modern art is as little as your knowledge of history, economics, math, science, political science, law and the constitution – aka none.
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Now, I know if I end up in London (unknown why or how I could end up in London anytime soon) not to go to see an art project (since the last and only time I went to anything artistic on my own was a few months ago to photo gallery with 1920s and 1930s photographs of my neighborhood – mostly because it is a four minute walk from my front door I am very unlikely to end up in any galleries anywhere) not to go to the gay sex Jesus exhibit.
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But, that artist should write you a check for publicizing him.

To that point, have you seen #26?

Freakinpa, 6.97 percent is greater than 5.37 percent.
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Hence, rates were going to go up. However, they are going up less than projected just as HCR supporters always predicted.
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The price of food, homes, cars… everything goes up over time. So, 5.37% is good news when you were expecting the price increase (without HCR) to be 6.97 percent.
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Like I said, you do not know 7th grade math.

Who here had heard of this artist before his public relations man freeinpa told us about him? Anyone?

Is freeinpa actually textee?
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Family Guy and SNL are where “elite liberals” get their news? Are they part of the grand conspiracy with ESPN Classic and the Ladies Home Journal?

Destr from the post about this:
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Thanks, Patrick, esp. for bring up MP. At least they could do violent humor…
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and this…
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IIRC, was this one of KT’s favorite movie scenes?”

Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/10/01/blowing-up-british-kids-not-everyones-cup-of-tea/#ixzz11PZdISe9
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According to your twisted thinking, mcoville, liking an ad where people pop like balloons means that you are homicidal, then every Monty Python fan worldwide should be under constant watch and, since this dark humor is so loved in England, then England must be the most dangerous country in the world.
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In other words, mcoville, you’re being an idiot.

“We must fight the forces of evil – the conservatives in this country.”
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Why do liberals hate America and Americans?
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They have vilified you. They do not want you to organize in the workplace.”
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Yes especially if you want an efficient, solvent workplace.
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True. All three of you speak of unions at the level right below the Mafia and just an inch above child molesters.
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Actually the conviction rate is higher for corrupt unions and child molesters are another wing of the of the liberals special interest friends..

Corrupt and deranged is the liberal motto
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“”They talk about the constitution, but they do not want to live by it.”
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Still waiting for that list of laws that liberals want to enforce. You know the one Obama is reading from when he wants to given citizenship to illegals who haven’t broken the law. Its apparent he doesn’t think they have broken the law.

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SSL (Student Service Learning) hours are required by many state governments to graduate High School…
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This is true.
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…so kids must attend these rallies…
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This is a lie.
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Those kids can choose from several different opportunities. You can see an example of those opportunities here:
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http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgtmpl.asp?url=/Content/Volunteer/ssl.asp

From Krugman in your link:
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“I mean that literally. As Politico recently pointed out, every major contender for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination who isn’t currently holding office and isn’t named Mitt Romney is now a paid contributor to Fox News. Now, media moguls have often promoted the careers and campaigns of politicians they believe will serve their interests. But directly cutting checks to political favorites takes it to a whole new level of blatancy.

Arguably, this shouldn’t be surprising. Modern American conservatism is, in large part, a movement shaped by billionaires and their bank accounts, and assured paychecks for the ideologically loyal are an important part of the system. Scientists willing to deny the existence of man-made climate change, economists willing to declare that tax cuts for the rich are essential to growth, strategic thinkers willing to provide rationales for wars of choice, lawyers willing to provide defenses of torture, all can count on support from a network of organizations that may seem independent on the surface but are largely financed by a handful of ultrawealthy families. ”
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Krugman followed the money and found billionaires writing big checks.
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This makes the Tea Party a little bit better than an outright fraud since it is not grass roots and not about helping the “little guy”.
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Rusty hates it when people tell the truth.

Hey Paul Blart mall cop and general loser- Remember you are the college dropout. What you know about anything could be written on one side of a 3 x 5 index card and still have room for the Gettysburg address.
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So in addition to being an outright loser you are antio-Christian and a homophobe
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Now is the time for you to declare yourself victorious, do a victory lap and go back to mom’s basement

Rahm’s flipped so many people the bird that his finger has fallen off.

Since neocons are so poll-driven: BO’s approval rating now 47% in Gallup.

“Hence, rates were going to go up. However, they are going up less than projected just as HCR supporters always predicted.”
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Great revisionist history which is the only kind you excel. Remember the bold face lie of “bending the cost curve” The only thing bending over is the taxpayer.

It was lower premiums, lower deficits and you can keep your insurance or doctor if you like. 3 strikes you out again Rev Jim.

From Gallop’s poll:
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http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/6c-vn5rjt0gwm2ztvpssxa.gif
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When it comes to understanding the issues, Democrats still come out ahead of Republicans.

“Family Guy and SNL are where “elite liberals” get their news?’

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No conspiracy. Its just liberal stupidity. You de-cry Fox and use as a source of news and amusement the above. I guess when your other sources of Olbermann, Maddow and Schultz, SNL and Maher are preferable The left has confused news and amusement for years you still have trouble telling the difference.
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And I am sure textee can speak for himself.

” The left has confused news and amusement for years you still have trouble telling the difference.”
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Not true!
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Fox had the X-Files with whacky conspiracies of all kinds. Then Bill O’Rielly would have his show on Fox “News” with his own whacky conspiracies of all kinds.
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Homer Simpson is funny for being a total moron. So is Glenn Beck.
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It’s hard to tell the difference between Fox entertainment and Fox News.

so kids must attend these rallies…
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This is a lie
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Not born out by reality. Teachers “recommend” and students who “choose” other projects are many times punished for not following the recommendations. Or its presented as a school outing. Coercion is a prime weapon of the left.

The school district merely saying its not required is cold comfort along the lines that the MSM doesn’t have a liberal bias because they tell us so.
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” is currently pushing to add another $4 trillion to the debt in the form of tax cuts for the wealthy.”
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Before you start calling out “liar” maybe you should check your mouth at the door.

It is the people’s money. Tax cuts add ZERO to a deficit– Only Spending in excess of a revenue number can cause a deficit.

Well actually you are moronic, as this simple concept continues to escape your grasp.

“It was lower premiums” relative to the cost of living and anticipated increases in health care.
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” …lower deficits..”
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No, lower government spending on health care than would have been the case and, therefore, lower additions to the deficit due to health care.
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” ..and you can keep your insurance or doctor if you like…”
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So long as your doctor, your insurance company nor your employer quit.
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That is not a lie.
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If I say “you will not get a DWI from drinking coffee” and you gulp down Jack Daniels for hours on end, then have a coffee and get a DWI, that does not mean I lied.
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When the president said that health care reform will not mean that you will not be forced to change policies nor insurers, insurance companies quitting does not mean that the president lied.
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If you thought that the president was promising slavery such that no doctor will quit and no insurance company will quit and no doctors will retire or die, then you are a mental patient.

Can’t stand reality slapping you in the face can you? Just like a liberal its only fun when you can prattle on or just make fun of the conservatives.

Sorry Sparky those days are over. But then that’s what really tees you off isn’t it.

Freakinpa,
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In 1988, students in my high school were given credit for going to a George HW Bush rally about four miles away.
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The very small Democratic minority in our town complained just as you are.
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Then I, among a few others, got credit for going on an 85 mile bus trip to a Dukakis rally.
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Neither one were “punished” for our decisions.
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As usual, you are seeing conspiracies in your cornflakes.

The difference between the save the Planet liberals, and their polar opposites, conservatives.
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You decide who is more concerned.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/one-nation-crowd-didnt-exactly-leave-the-mall-or-world-war-ii-memorial-spotless/

“Regardless, aren’t you righties the ones that go around proclaiming that the market decides who are the strongest that survive?”

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Yes without interference from the government and dumb a** liberals. Liberals have this quaint notion that the government is the all knowing market.
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Because one of America’s biggest manufacturers is exactly like a health insurance company. Right”
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I see you are practicing stupidity today. See the object of any business, service, manufacturing, financial is to make a profit not re-distribute wealth at the whims of nitwits.

“I do not know how so few people can post so many posts with so little to say”
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Liberals do it every day here except they take paragraphs to say nothing.

Where did his job approval rating start again? Wasn’t it 63.3%?
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The problem with lip-sticked covered pigs which fly, they fall back to earth with a BIG thud!!

“Only Spending in excess of a revenue number can cause a deficit.”
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Cutting revenue or increasing spending both cause deficits, moron.
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With your twisted thinking, a government could pass a law saying all prices of everything is cut in half and then say that the government didn’t put anybody out of business, since cutting revenue doesn’t cause deficits, only spending causes deficits.
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With your twisted thinking, when you got fired from your last job, you would tell your wife that your lack of revenue is not why you are broke. It is because she pays for food and shelter that you are broke.
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Apply your twisted thinking to anything outside of government and see how warped you are.

“Who here had heard of this artist before his public relations man freeinpa told us about him? Anyone”
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You are just demonstrating the complete ignorance of the world outside of the typical liberals basement. If its not on a nut job left wing website, to paraphrase Sgt Schultz “they know nuthiiing!”

Teachers “recommend” and students who “choose” other projects are many times punished for not following the recommendations. Or its presented as a school outing.
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Prove it.

“…you are antio-Christian and a homophobe..”
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By not going to London to see a gay sex Jesus display I am “anti-Christian”?
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By not wanting to see pictures of gay sex I am a “homophobe”.
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Freakinpa, I told you that it is fine with me if you spend your weekends looking for pictures of gay sex and if you want to go to London I have no opinion about your sexual preference.

“…you are antio-Christian and a homophobe..”
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By not going to London to see a gay sex Jesus display I am “anti-Christian”?
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By not wanting to see pictures of gay sex I am a “homophobe”?
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Freakinpa, I told you that it is fine with me if you spend your weekends looking for pictures of gay sex and if you want to go to London I have no opinion about your sexual preference.

Sorry Rev Jim, you can distort, contort and continue to repeat the lies that Obama spewed then and now does not change the facts that he and you are lying about HC reform.

“Not true!”
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And so it must be because a certified multi loser declares it to be.

Go Rev Jim take your victory lap!

Try to learn how to read, Freakinpa.
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Look for anybody who has said that protesting against this photograph is bad.
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Like the Koran burning, I do not believe law enforcement should be allowed to close the Jesus gay sex exhibit in London.
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Like the Koran burning, I do not believe law enforcement should be used to stop protesters, either.
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I, myself, am very uninterested in modern art to begin with.
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The Jesus gay sex picture is one more reason I would not go to that gallery.
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I’m more like a Normal Rockwell type.

“…he and you are lying about HC reform.”
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If he and/or I am lying, please show me the quote where the president said that he will use the government to prevent health insurers from closing down and quitting, prevent doctors from quitting, retiring or dying.
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If you read and listened, the projected savings was down the road, not immediate. The savings would be a lack of increases.
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Please send a quote from the president saying that prices will in absolute dollar amounts go down during the year 2010.

“Cutting revenue or increasing spending both cause deficits”
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Still nothing but a burden to society. Revenues can drop for a couple of reasons but spending never dips. Liberals have this brilliant mind set that spending is sacrosanct (except defense of course) and must go up regardless of the revenue size. So if you don’t spend it you don’t have deficits.
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And please spare me some long drawn out lecture you pull for the pile of books around that you use to feign brilliance. It doesn’t work You test positive for stupid daily!

“And please spare me some long drawn out lecture you pull for the pile of books around that you use to feign brilliance.”
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Actually I was eating a salad, not reading any books today.
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Since March, I only opened a book once when Rusty claimed that Richard Clarke believed that we belonged in Iraq and told me what chapter he thought it was.
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Then he realized he was talking about Wesley Clark.

The fall from Mt Olympus is long and glorious

“Revenues can drop for a couple of reasons but spending never dips.”
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In order to counteract a recession, the government needs to spend to get people working and spending again. So, spending should not dip, but, instead, increase when recessions occur.
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As for non-defense spending, these are almost all a part of the safety net to make sure that the old, the sick and the poor do not starve, also known as “mandatory expenditures”.
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Only somebody with the morality of dead cockroach would use a recession as an excuse to starve a wounded veteran, old poor people or working parents who can not earn enough to feed their children.
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Then again, dead cockroaches are your moral and intellectual superior Freakinpa.

“Sorry Sparky those days are over. ”
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You wait and see, freakinpa.
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Your days of being made fun of haven’t even begun yet.

“I see you are practicing stupidity today.”
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Freakinpa,
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You want welfare for the health insurance companies but you want to starve out injured veterans, the old and working poor parents.
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You don’t even know what stupidity is, even when it looks you in the mirror.
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Yeah, that guy with shaving cream on his face this morning was stupidity staring you right in the face.

“Liberals do it every day here except they take paragraphs to say nothing.”
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Just because you lack the reading comprehension to understand liberals does not mean that you aren’t missing a ton of useful facts.

LOL
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Rahm was recently rejected as the hand logo for “To Tell the Truth.”

OK, so what happened to W’s 80+? in ’06 it was mid-30s! Considering most presidents get re-elected with 50% or more, mid-to-high 40s twenty months into a new admin is not bad.
Rabid reprobates, aren’t we?

Liberals have this quaint notion that the government is the all knowing market.
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Hey! You’re lying again!
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…the object of any business, service, manufacturing, financial is to make a profit not re-distribute wealth.
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And you are saying that a company’s profit comes before any other consideration, Freeper.
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You should campaign on that; rally your fellow right-wingers with cries of “Corporate profits first! Move the jobs to China!”
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Oh, and one more point to make: [We need manufacturers more than we need insurance companies].

“Why do liberals hate America and Americans?”
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You must have been watching a different video since this video is about people who love America – true liberals.
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“Yes especially if you want an efficient, solvent workplace.”
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“In fact, the most productive auto assembly plant in North America, according to The Harbour Report, is General Motors’ Oshawa (Canada) No. 1 plant, in which workers take just 15.85 hours to assemble a vehicle. The plant assembles the Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Impala, and is represented by the Canadian Auto Workers.

Six of the top 10 North American assembly plants are union shops, reports Roger Kerson, assistant director of public relations of United Auto Workers. Ford Motor Co.’s Atlanta assembly plant was ranked third on the list, at 16.58 assembly hours per vehicle; GM’s Oshawa (Canada) No. 2 plant was fourth, at 17.47 hours; and GM’s Lansing, Michigan, assembly plant was fifth, at 17.53. Nonetheless, Nissan’s Altima plant in Smyrna, Tennessee, a nonunion shop, is the most productive U.S. plant, with an average of 16.10 hours per vehicle.”
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http://www.qualitydigest.com/feb06/news.shtml
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Wrong, union shops are consistently more efficient and productive.
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“…child molesters are another wing of the of the liberals special interest friends…”
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Sorry, freakinpa, you are not a friend of any liberal no matter how often you rape your daughter. Liberals have never supported anybody even vaguely similar to child molesters.
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“Still waiting for that list of laws that liberals want to enforce.”
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Every law on the books including ones which put child molesters like you in jail as well as members of the Bush Administration who violated international law.
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However, as a class C misdemeanor, equal to loitering, the punishment for illegal immigration is very small. Democrats do not oppose enforcing this law in terms of giving small fines.
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Loitering, as you know, is being annoying in a public place. It is a crime you are guilty of every time you leave your home. If you want life sentences for class C misdemeanors, your 5,000 counts of loitering would get you the electric chair.

I know!
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Liberals have links that work and conservatives have links which say “Server not Available”!
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Got it, Rusty.
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We have facts and you have the intellect of the missing link.

“Only somebody with the morality of dead cockroach would use a recession as an excuse to starve a wounded veteran, old poor people or working parents who can not earn enough to feed their children”
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And only a mental midget would continue to use that sob story as a ruse for re-distributing wealth to political allies as the “stimulus” was supposed to do. Man up! Liberals continually lie about what they try to do and then hide behind “its for the children”
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“Actually I was eating a salad, not reading any books today.”
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“these are almost all a part of the safety net to make sure that the old, the sick and the poor do not starve, also known as “mandatory expenditures”.
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So everything outside of defense spending is a safety net? I have thousands to pick from but that is the dumbest statements of the many you have made. Or you are irreparably delusional.

Hope everyone watches it to the end.
Dana Milbank (not one of my favorites, but) has a very harsh book on Beck that comes out today.
Better than NY Mags wishy washy take on Beck.

By the way, before the reactionary rw on this site states that I want Beck shot, no, he will eventually self-destruct.

“Prove it.”
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What’s next – the liar liar pants on fire defense?

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http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Bedford+students+credited+for+gay+rights+event&articleId=d152e5fd-d198-4364-bed4-df9bd3ec4dcf
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“who love America – true liberals.”

An oxymoron. They hate everything this country represents, its laws and the freedom the peoiple try to express.
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Liberals hate Americans, their actions and want to control what they do, the money they have and how they spend spend it. Unions are more akin to the way of life of communism. just as Trumpka was advocating (in between whipping up hatred and violence) how the private companies should be controlled by the public. Yep great love for Amerika.

“I told you that it is fine with me if you spend your weekends looking for pictures of gay sex and if you want to go to London I have no opinion about your sexual preference.”
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Am I supposed to feel chagrined at your pathetic veiled attempt to make me feel gay? If it helps a pathetic dim-witted loser like you feel better so be it.
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Norman Rockwell? How positively Republican of you. Careful they will take away your liberal decoder ring and tin foil hat for approving of the way things used to be.

“Liberals hate Americans, their actions and want to control what they do, the money they have and how they spend spend it. Unions are more akin to the way of life of communism. just as Trumpka was advocating (in between whipping up hatred and violence) how the private companies should be controlled by the public.”
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So when Unions had 36% of the workforce in 1945 rather than 12% now, I guess America was destroyed?
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Freakinpa, crack kills – please use more.

“Your days of being made fun of haven’t even begun yet.”

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What are you 3? Age not IQ although with you there is no discernible difference.

“You want welfare for the health insurance companies but you want to starve out injured veterans, the old and working poor parents.”
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More of the poor starving children red herring. I don’t want welfare for insurance companies, I want government to stay out of businesses, forcing them to do things, dictating their profits and punishing the successful and trying to pick winners. The job of the government is provide equal opportunity not equal outcome.

Just because you lack the reading comprehension to understand liberals does not mean that you aren’t missing a ton of useful facts.
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No you posting long winded sob stories from sources you can’t and don’t understand while making points about nothing is neither useful nor facts. Just hot air from life’s loser–you.

But none of them were anointed the savior and god as Obambi was.

“Liberals have links”
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In sociological terms its called the missing link and that would be you Rev JIm.

“Norman Rockwell? How positively Republican of you.”
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“In 1943, during the Second World War, Rockwell painted the Four Freedoms series, which was completed in seven months and resulted in his losing 15 pounds. The series was inspired by a speech by Franklin D. Roosevelt, in which he described four principles for universal rights: Freedom from Want, Freedom of Speech, Freedom to Worship, and Freedom from Fear. The paintings were published in 1943 by The Saturday Evening Post. The United States Department of the Treasury later promoted war bonds by exhibiting the originals in 16 cities. Rockwell himself considered “Freedom of Speech” to be the best of the four. ”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Rockwell#World_War_II
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“After he parted company with the magazine in 1963, Rockwell became more openly political, and the politics were not what people might have expected; indeed one of the many American artists who chronicled the breakup of Norman Rockwell’s idyllic mid-century America was Norman Rockwell. Rockwell’s 1960s pictures are images of tension and conflict. The Problem We All Live With (1963) has a little girl walking to a newly desegregated school with an escort of four US marshals. It adopts her scale, dwarfed by the huge legs of the marshals. On the wall behind is vile racist graffiti and the blood-red remains of a thrown tomato. Rockwell was accused by angry letter writers of “vicious lying propaganda… for the crime of racial integration”.”
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http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/ARTrockwell.htm
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Sorry, Freakinpa, Normal Rockwell was a Democrat and, by today’s standards (by today’s standards Richard Nixon and Dwight Eisenhower were liberals) Rockwell would be considered “left wing”.

“…attempt to make me feel gay?”
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No, I was tying to make you sound obsessively homophobic, but, the fact that you mistook it for a gay feeling proves my point.
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Once again, even though, like I did not want (as they did not) the police to arrest the wingnut who was trying to burn Koran’s to go to jail, I do not want to see whoever this English artist is to go to jail.
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Also, just as I do not want people who protested against the Koran burning wingnut to go to jail, I do not want protesters against this Jesus gay sex thing to go to jail.
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Just as I do believe the Koran burning wingnut deserves police protection from violence, I believe this artist deserves protection from violence.
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Just as I believe that the people protesting the Koran burning wingnut should be protected by police from any violence, I believe any protesters against the Jesus gay sex guy should be protected from any violence.
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Just as I thought the Koran burner was a nut, this guy sounds like a nut.
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Why do you waste everybody’s time with such moronic things. freakinpa?

“BEDFORD – In an action that has concerned some community members, Bedford High School officials recently gave graduation credits to students who took part in a “Day of Silence,” a national school-based observance for gay rights.

Students who participated in the April 16 event refrained from speaking for the entire day — a symbolic protest against anti-gay name-calling and bullying in schools. Bedford High School administrators decided to give Real World Learning hours — a requirement for graduation — to participating students.”
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In both cases, this is an option given to students.
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You’ve proven one thing, though: you are obsessed with gay men.

I don’t carry any oil to “anoint” anybody. You neocons MSU again.

“So everything outside of defense spending is a safety net? ”
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It is, however, the largest majority of all non-military spending.
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No, you have the Department of Energy, The Department of Education, The Department of Agriculture, NASA, The Army Corps of Engineers and, all National law enforcement under the Department of Homeland Security.
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“I have thousands to pick from..”
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Not in the US budget.
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Please point out where we can cut down a significant part of our national budget outside of the military or care for the needy.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget
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Most of these other agencies are only a small portion of the federal budget. It’s not like NASA is taking up our entire budget.
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Show me the money!
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Show me where we can both go deficit free and cut taxes without endangering the poor or cutting the military.
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Show me, moron!
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Show me now or STFU since you know nothing about the federal budget.

“What are you 3? ”
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No, I just love showing morons who insult people how dumb they really are.
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It’s like going hunting without having to haul a dead deer around or gun.

“No you posting long winded sob stories…”
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Saying that HCR will work is a sob story?
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Saying that the the stimulus package is needed is a sob story?
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What blog have you been reading, Freakinpa?

This is what debating with you inevitably turns into.
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“It’s hard to tell the difference between Fox entertainment and Fox News.”
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Prove me wrong.
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Prove to me that the improbable and fictional conspiracy theories in the X Files is less believable that Fox “News” stories about creeping Marxists looking to redistribute wealth.
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Prove that Glenn Beck is smarter than Homer Simpson.
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Give examples.

“… dictating their profits…”
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Like you say ten times a day, cutting revenue does not cause deficits. Spending does. Apply that to the private sector. How about cutting the top paying jobs down to a reasonable wage to start with?
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“.. and punishing the successful..”
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That makes no sense. An insurance company fails to deliver a good service for a reasonable price and that is “successful”?
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” ..and trying to pick winners…”
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The government doesn’t pick. The market picks. Blue Cross is a winner, and, like you, many other companies are loosers.
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“The job of the government is provide equal opportunity..”
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As in all get medical care so that they can prove themselves in the workforce, not be too ill to work or study.
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” …not equal outcome….”
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Nobody is seeking an equal outcome unless in your warped world the one and only reason people want money is to go to the doctor.
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Do you think that HCR involves giving away free Mercedes? Do you think that HCR gives away free second hand clunkers? Do you think HCR gives people anything they enjoy spending money on?
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If not, you are providing further evidence that you are a totally incompetent.

Fox viewers believe Beck is an historian. Enough said.
And we claim the younger generation is uneducated. The average age of Fox viewers is around 150 years old.
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Who is the less educated? I will go with the Stewart crowd rather than my generation.

“Fox viewers believe Beck is an historian.”
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That concept, I believe came from a typo. Glenn Beck is a Histrionic.
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The Fox crowd doesn’t do well on vocabulary tests, either.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/04/jack-camp-arrested-judge-stripper-drugs-guns_n_749937.html
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Doing what freeper et al do everyday.
Atlanta Fed judge appointed by Reagan arrested for illegal drugs shared with a stripper.
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Proves all Reps are godless, hedonistic, immoral.

What’s next – the liar liar pants on fire defense?
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You tell me, Freeper. Not only does this have nothing to do with the One Nation rally, but the only person your link proves wrong is yourself:

Bob Jozokos, the school’s interim principal, said the event fell under Real World Learning’s “Democracy in Action” requirement, which can be satisfied by attending civic meetings or participating in other political events.[...]
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Jozokos said students did not know they would receive Real World Learning hours when they signed up for the event.
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“The reason is because students need to get those hours, and I was looking for kids that would want to participate in the activity and not just get those hours,” Jozokos said.[...]
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Jozokos said the decision to award hours for the event was not an endorsement of a specific political agenda; Jozokos said he would give hours to students who participate Tea Party events or other activities on the political spectrum.
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“I’m not looking at the value statement so much,” Jozokos said. “I’m looking to see if it falls under the idea of getting kids involved in democracy and speaking their mind and becoming part of the process that we value in this country.”

Well, we value this process. Freeper, not so much…