Afternoon Reads

I know next to nothing about Rouse but being Tom Daschle’s Chief of Staff and being called called the 101st Senator doesn’t bring me comfort.

–The Atlantic’s Nicole Allan fact-checks an attack ad from West Virginia Republican John Raese, who has gained ground rapidly in a Senate race that was originally seen as Joe Manchin’s to lose.
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We think he’s going to come in and consistently oppose the kind of cap-and-trade legislation the [environmental] community has pushed in the past. When we’re pushing for renewable energy as a replacement for coal, we don’t see that he is going to be working with us on that, either.”

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The unfortunate thing is that Ms Allan statement above is also factually untrue as well. How does she know Manchin will “consistently oppose”? Just because Manchin is from a coal producing state does not guarantee that Manchin will oppose any cap and trade legislation.
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Do you people really think we are that stupid?

More bailout paid back. But OMG, still an evil thing to have done for those who don’t pay attention.

(Reuters) – American International Group Inc(AIG.N) and the U.S. government laid out a plan for the insurer to repay its $182.3 billion taxpayer bailout, just over two years after it was rescued from the brink of collapse.

http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-51851420100930

Turning the tables on Alan Grayson. When do we think we will see some reporting from TIME.com great team of reporters (cough) about Grayson’s recent lies he put out in a political ad about his opponent?
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From the Atlantic article –

Manchin has repeatedly slammed Congress’s attempts to pass cap-and-trade, and he is not beloved by environmentalists. Tony Massaro, the senior vice president of political affairs and public education for the League of Conservation Voters, says that Manchin is “way too coal-oriented for us. … We think he’s going to come in and consistently oppose the kind of cap-and-trade legislation the [environmental] community has pushed in the past. When we’re pushing for renewable energy as a replacement for coal, we don’t see that he is going to be working with us on that, either.”

Massaro is confused by Raese’s cap-and-trade attack on Manchin, since he doesn’t see a difference between the two candidates’ energy platforms. “What’s the play here? They both are terrible on cap and trade. They’re both in complete agreement,” Massaro says. “Fundamentally, as voters are making a choice, I think they’ve got to make the decision based on something else, because they’re in the same place.”

From the same source our friend IvyB used.
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“Under the repayment plan, the Treasury will get about 1.66 billion AIG common shares, worth $62 billion at Wednesday’s closing share price, in exchange for the $49.1 billion of AIG preferred shares it now holds.
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That exchange will happen by the end of the 2011 first quarter and will give taxpayers an instant paper profit of more than $10 billion. It will also raise taxpayers’ stake in the company to 92.1 percent.”

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OMG, I feel so rich now as a tax payer. I went from holding the bag on AIG which is still near the brink of collapse, and due to the great efforts of this government, I am on the hook even more with AIG to the tune of 92.1%.
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Yes this is great work!! NOT

“What’s the play here? They both are terrible on cap and trade.

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The difference. One will fold under the Democrat pressure put on him by the other Democrats in the Senate to vote with them. One will not. You pick and choose who you think will best represent West Virginia coal interests.

Another side of Rouse
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http://spectator.org/blog/2010/09/30/expected-rahm-replacement-conv

Yeah, listen to Rust-eze. He’s got FAR more intellectual insight than us mortal minds put together!

2 things Rusty:
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1) “One will fold under the Democrat pressure put on him by the other Democrats”
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Just like Blue Dogs did on HCR.
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2) ” You pick and choose who you think will best represent West Virginia coal interests.”
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Yeah, screw the people of West Virgina! Who will best represent West Virginia’s coal industry? Nice to see you given up any pretense that the modern GOP represents anything other than the corporate interests of their paymasters.

Sooooooo, it was bad when Grayson did this, but its ‘turning the tables’ when his opponent does it?
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Hypocrisy, thy name is Rusty.

She’s just another Liberal Journalist using the media to support her Idealogy. Just like the 90% of other Journalist that are Liberals.

“Nice to see you given up any pretense that the modern GOP represents anything other than the corporate interests of their paymasters.”

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Well momento, those “corporate paymasters” do pay very good wages to the coal miners in West Virginia. Why don’t you go to Beckley sometime and ask the miners at the Dew Drop Inn Bar and Restaurant if they think due to cap and trade, they would like it that the coal mines are all shut down.
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I’d be careful tho, last time I was in the place, just about everyone was “packing” some sort of weapon, you may not make it out alive.

Mo’……….Mo’………..Mo’, Grayson’s opponent did not make this video, it was done by another group as a joke on Grayson, strictly online rather than on the TV airwaves like Grayson’s ad which was a total L-I-E.
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BIG difference buddy. Big difference.

“Pakistan blocked a vital supply route for U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan on Thursday in apparent retaliation for an alleged cross-border helicopter strike by the coalition that killed three Pakistani frontier soldiers.
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…Pakistan’s government protested the attacks, which came in a month during which there have been an unprecedented number of U.S. drone missile strikes in the northwest, inflaming already pervasive anti-American sentiment among Pakistanis.
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Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told visiting CIA director Leon Panetta in Islamabad that Pakistan was “profoundly concerned” about the missile strikes and helicopter incursions. “Pakistan being a front-line ally in the war against terror expects its partners to respect its territorial sovereignty,” he said, according to a statement from his office.
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Polls show many Pakistanis regard the United States as an enemy, and conspiracy theories abound of U.S. troops wanting to attack Pakistan and take over its nuclear weapons. The Pakistani government has to balance its support for the U.S. war in Afghanistan – and its need for billions of dollars in American aid – with maintaining support from its own population.”
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link
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Anyone care to argue that we need to stay in Afghanistan in order to stabilize nuclear Pakistan?

She didn’t say it. As I posted below, she was quoting someone on a different side from someone quoted earlier. But that doesn’t fit with the evil liberal journalist… Or with the — I never read what I comment on side.

Condensed version: illogical anger, more of the same in three bags full. If I believed in the illogical religion of common acceptance, I would ask god to help us. Am I on a circle here?

Thanks Ivy, just confirms my impression.
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Inside operator/creature of DC

P, that’s what I thought.

“He’s got FAR more intellectual insight than us mortal minds put together!”

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Well for little libtards like you, nflfoggy, the ONLY game you have is your 3rd grade name calling. So, it really is not that difficult to come across as intellectual or even average intelligence when we do comment.
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If you didn’t play your little 3rd grader playground name calling games, what game would you have? NONE!!
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LOL…………..idiot.

2 more things then:
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1) “do pay very good wages to the coal miners in West Virginia”
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The ones that survive the experience, anyway. I don’t think even you are naive enough to believe that the coal mining corporations care about anything other than their profits. As demonstrated by: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/us/07westvirginia.html
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2) “I’d be careful tho, last time I was in the place, just about everyone was “packing” some sort of weapon, you may not make it out alive.”
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I grew up in coal mining country. Specifically, central PA where its going to take 100 years for some of the areas to recover from rampant strip mining, after being abandoned by those coal companies you love so much. I’ll be just fine, so save your veiled threats of violence for someone else. Besides, I’m probably a better shot.

“TV airwaves like Grayson’s ad which was a total L-I-E”
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Which part Rusty? You keeping saying it was a lie, but you don’t say what the lies were.
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FWIW, I think Grayson’s ad was rhetorically overboard and its not the type of ad I’d prefer to see in a civilized campaign. But that doesn’t mean it was untruthful about his opponent’s positions, just that it was tasteless in presenting them.

I’ll be just fine, so save your veiled threats of violence for someone else. Besides, I’m probably a better shot.”

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1. You sound so much like patricksartor it is not funny, are you sure the two of you are not one and the same?
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2. Unlike patrick as well, my caution to you about going to WVA was for your own benefit, no violence was intended on my part what-so-ever. Ask patrick about “putting someone in the cross-hairs of his gun” he is the one you should perhaps warn.
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You people are such dweebs, I swear. LOL!!

Looks like Rahm “Raccoon Eyes” Emanuel is calling it quits. Hip-hip-hoooooooooooray!!
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100930/ap_on_re_us/us_chicago_mayor_2

“no violence was intended on my part what-so-ever”
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Thanks for clarifying, Rusty. Passive aggressive isn’t usually your style – I thought that comment was a bit odd. I’m glad it wasn’t meant the way I initially interpreted it.
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And I assure, patrick and I are indeed different people. I was responding more to your assumption that all liberals are ascared of guns. I grew up around guns, was taught to handle them properly at a young age, and continue to treat them with respect they warrant, and not as a political fashion statement, like I see some elements of the Tea Party do.
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I can also find you bars full of big, blue collar, union card-carrying, leftists where you’d fare as well as you suggest as I would in a WV miner’s pub. However, I’m not sure there’s a point there worth making. Other than alcohol and politics being a volatile combination.

Another perspective on Rahm’s departure. Maybe an insider isn’t all bad – if it is a better one.
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http://www.thenation.com/blog/155116/rahm%E2%80%99s-departure-will-help-reset-obama-white-house

Here you go momento. Just for you.
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http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/28/video-grayson-taken-to-the-woodshed-by-msnbc/
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In this MSNBC, even they will take Grayson to the carpet for lying in his ad.
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You on the other hand, would believe the devil himself, if he had a (D) behind his name.

“You on the other hand, would believe the devil himself, if he had a (D) behind his name.”
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Sigh. You really don’t seem to be paying very close attention, Rusty.