In the Arena

Election Road Trip, Day 24: Bloggadocio

Los Angeles, Ca.

Traveling Companions: None

Events: California Gubernatorial and Senatorial debates

This is the last day of my road trip. I’ve posted here 29 times and written four print columns along the way, and spoken with hundreds of people expressing every possible political opinion…but somehow Mickey Kaus, tailed closely by Jonah Goldberg, has bestirred himself to comment on only one–my visit to Iron Horse vineyards, owned by the liberal activists, Barry and Audrey Sterling, and run by their daughter, Joy.

Mickey and Jonah, inevitably, distort a striking point that Barry Sterling made: that the current, post-Reagan tax fetishism of the Republican party is foolish. He made the point with a creative overstatement of the case–that he’d survived 70% marginal tax rates; indeed, the high rates caused him to work harder to make more money. I am absolutely certain that Sterling was not advocating a return to 70% rates, as Mickey well knows. He was saying that tax cuts are not the eternal panacea imagined by the Republicans and the supply-side notion that if you lower rates revenues will increase is a gross fallacy (as the past 30 years, including the Clinton tax increases, have proven). Mickey has done some valuable work in the past, and he serves as a useful curmudgeon on more than a few issues, but he sure can be a feckless, puerile jerk at times.

The Sterling visit unique in my travels; most of my interviews took place in coffee shops, political meetings and modest middle class neighborhoods–the sort of places Kaus and Goldberg, and far too many of my other columniating colleagues, rarely frequent. I’ve faithfully reported lots of views along the way and, in most cases, tried not to cast judgment on the people telling their stories. Readers have gotten exercised about some and were moved by others. I’ll attempt to make some larger sense of what I’ve seen next week in the print magazine. After I get some sleep.

This post is part of my Election Road Trip 2010 project. To track my location across the country, and read all my road trip posts, click here.

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  • nflfoghorn

    Yer three hours behind the East Coast so that’ll give you plenty of time to catch up.

  • destor23

    Exercised though I was by your story from the gym, I wish you a safe trip home.

    As for the “real America” argument that Kaus made — sure, more people eat at diners and hang out at coffee shops than own vineyards or even attend wine tastings. But I think there’s a legitimate argument against the middle-country restaurant in a middle to small sized town in a landlocked state with agricultural roots being representative of America, Americans or its goals. If I came on here claiming that the weekly wine tasting I attend is where “real Americans” go and said that our conversations there represented “the concerns of real Americans” everybody would laugh at me. But it cuts both ways. We’re all real Americans and that means that no one type of person or venue has a claim on true Americana.

  • grape_crush

    Mickey…can be a feckless, puerile jerk at times.

    Not to mention that he’s overly fond of goat genetalia.

  • grape_crush

    Oh, and have a safe flight back, Joe.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Kaus and Goldberg?
    .
    Joe-are there any midgets you won’t wrestle?

  • deconstructiva

    Thanks for road trip, Joe, look forward to summary later. Have a safe return. Are you dropping off SUV and flying back, or are you driving back? I’d drive; car rental one-way dropoff fees are a royal PITA. Do thank Katy here again for her help. Better yet, if you insist on avoiding drop off fees, have her drive back and blog her own trip while you rest. This will give Katy her time in the spotlight while you ponder trends from the trip.
    .
    As for tax cuts / less spending, keep hammering the point that it’s NOT a miracle cure for job creation (and our taxes ain’t that bad, compare to other countries and in our past as you noted, so why are RW’ers whining? but I digress). This was posted yesterday at Scherer’s Obama’s New Tone post yesterday in case you didn’t see this…
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/#39390445
    …and others here can provide you with more links to back up your points.

  • grape_crush

    genitalia. my proofreader is baaa-d.

  • destor23
  • Paul-no not that one

    Well that is just prudent of Joe, destor.

  • stuartzechman

    Extremely well said.
    .
    Bravo.

  • kjk28

    When I saw Kaus’ column yesterday, I knew we would be seeing a rebuttal from Joe today.

  • apr2563

    destor23: Thanks. In my opinion anyone living permanently in this country is a “real American”. They obviously aren’t a “real Yugoslavian”.

  • stuartzechman

    Mickey Kaus’ Real America:
    .

  • apr2563

    Lucianne’s little boy Jonah is an easy target. He and Katherine Jean Lopez are two of the dumbest contributers to NRO. And, that is saying a lot.

  • apr2563

    SZ: Priceless. I will be passing this video on to some friends and family.

  • filmnoia


    We’re all real Americans and that means that no one type of person or venue has a claim on true Americana.

    Great point destor23. The Palin wing of the GOP likes to talk about how the so-called “elites” look down their noses at “real” Americans, yet it’s these same people who are so narcissistic to think they are representaive of a national attitude. Their tiny little world, filled with their own reverse snobbism, is becoming smaller and smaller.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Uh, wtf?
    .
    Is that real?

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