Morning Must Reads: Pack

I would say that Obama, Biden and the Democrats do not what to win.

That should be do not want to win.

Pic: “Yeah, I’d say the rhythm method works best.”

Vice President Biden doesn’t mince words with the base.

Biden, Axelrod, and others in the Administration (and Congress) need to stop whinging about how they are being treated by their base constituency. I didn’t vote for GOP-lite half-measure policy, wussy Dem legislators, or acceptance of inaction.

We are supposed to be fighting for what’s right and necessary, not the politically expedient and bare bones of what’s possible.

Exactly who were those 49 insurgents we killed the other day?

It’s like he’s madder at his base than he is at his opponents.

“CNN reports Rahm Emanuel will pack his bags Friday and Pete Rouse will likely serve as interim chief of staff”

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Headline: Obama claims one job saved (Chief of Staff Rouse) and one job created (Rahm running for mayor).

I’ve felt for a while now that stating you are a “Christian” in this country has become more of a political statement than one of faith.
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Now I have some proof.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/us/28religion.html?_r=1&hp

What did I miss?

A pretty juicy pre-election rumor.

“Insiders on Capitol Hill are buzzing about an upcoming New York Times exposé that will detail an alleged Boehner affair. Sources say the Times is looking for the right time to drop the story in October to sway the election, similar to how the Times reported during the 2008 presidential campaign on an alleged John McCain affair that supposedly had taken place many years before and that was flatly denied by the woman in question.”

Freep made a funny!

“Republican U.S. Senate nominee Rand Paul belongs to a conservative doctors’ group that, among other things, has expressed doubts about the connection between HIV and AIDS and suggested that President Barack Obama may have been elected because he was able to hypnotize voters.”
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That might make for a few interesting questions for Mr Rand.
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“Rand Paul’s campaign declined to answer questions about whether he supports the association’s positions.”
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Oh, ok. Never mind, then.
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http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100924/NEWS0106/309240084/1008/NEWS01/Rand%20Paul%20part%20of%20AAPS%20doctors%20%20group%20airing%20unusual%20views

Ms. Carrot denied all accusations.

The Democratic base is acting like a bunch of kindergarten children. They want to read but they don’t want to learn the alphabet. …………..

http://thefiresidepost.com/2010/09/27/president-obama-teaches-kindergarten/

Wonder Twin powers, activate!
I’ll be…a scared rabbit!
And I’ll be…a %#$@* bully!!!

Fact-checking the Pledge to America.

Pledge, page 15: Despite the ‘stimulus’ and Democrats’ promises the unemployment rate would remain below eight percent, the unemployment rate climbed from 7.7 percent in January 2009 to 9.5 percent in August 2010.

Republicans have a point here, as we noted some time ago. Back in July of last year we wrote, “the original projections from President Obama’s economic advisers on what would happen with and without the stimulus plan are still off — and significantly so.” But nobody “promised” that unemployment would remain below 8 percent.

As we also wrote in June of last year, the White House explanation was simple: “They say President George Bush left them a worse mess than they realized” when Obama’s advisers came up with their predictions. And that’s true. The original chart – produced Jan. 9, 2009 — was based on economic projections that were in line with what private economists were forecasting. Those forecasts were being revised for the worse even before any stimulus money was spent.

And for the record, CBO’s experts calculate that the stimulus has had a positive effect on employment. In its most recent report on the measure, the agency estimated that in the second quarter of 2010, stimulus spending lowered the unemployment rate between 0.7 and 1.8 percentage points and increased the number of people working between 1.4 million and 3.3 million.

No. Really? (feigns surprise).

“Republicans on President Obama’s fiscal commission, which is tasked with coming up with ways to reduce the deficit, have privately argued in official meetings that the panel should recommend further corporate and capital gains tax cuts as part of its mandate. The panel has been charged with raising revenues and cutting spending, to bring the federal budget into greater balance. But if Republican members are successful, their advocacy would result in either an unbalanced report, dedicated wholly to spending and benefit cuts — or to gridlock and, thus, no recommendations at all.

At a tax reform working group meeting last week, Republicans argued against every possible tax increase. According to one source familiar with the deliberations, Republicans were even opposed to eliminating loopholes, exemptions, credits and other so-called ‘tax expenditures’ unless the associated revenue increase could be used to lower capital gains and corporate income rates.

‘Republicans have not even said that we should get any revenue from taxes,’ the source said. ‘Even tax expenditures. They appear to want to use the savings on tax expenditures to cut corporate taxes. So shared sacrifices — except for large corporations who make out even better.’”

It would be funnier if it didn’t have a chance of being true.

Bruce Bartlett on the feasibility of a balanced budget amendment.

“Republicans are nevertheless hoping that their support for a balanced budget amendment (BBA) to the Constitution will fool people into thinking they are fiscally responsible on Election Day. But if they are, in fact, serious about amending the Constitution to require a balanced budget, it’s a terrible idea.[...]

One of the things that got this country’s public finances seriously on the wrong track was the idea that there was an implicit limit on deficits imposed by the political system. Hence, tax cuts would necessarily “starve the beast” by forcing spending cuts. This idea was plausible in the 1970s, but unfortunately has been proven beyond doubt by 30 years of experience to be completely wrong. In practice, there is no limit to deficits beyond those imposed by financial markets.”

Given Obama’s “friends” do you really want a guilt by association campaign?
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Let’s not forget the Dems own 5 star crazy Grayson
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“We thought Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson of Florida reached a low point when he falsely accused his opponent of being a draft dodger during the Vietnam War, and of not loving his country. But now Grayson has lowered the bar even further. He’s using edited video to make his rival appear to be saying the opposite of what he really said.

In a new ad, Grayson accuses his Republican opponent Daniel Webster of being a religious fanatic and dubs him “Taliban Dan.”

http://factcheck.org/2010/09/rep-grayson-lowers-the-bar/
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The smell of desperation and panic are rising.

Only if you’re running for office.

Interesting that many Catholics think that (as I do) the Communion bread and wine are symbolic, which goes against their church’s teaching that it’s Jesus’ actual blood and body they’re consuming.

You say if it weren’t for the stimulus the jobs of White House COS and Chicago mayor were going away??? Did… not…KNOW that!

Political hyperbole aside, last I heard Grayson’s up by 13 so I wouldn’t say he was desperate.

The funny thing is that the website set up to unseat him is called… get ready for it… beatboehner.com.
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Couldn’t they have just called it “beattheboner.com” and complete the parody?

I’m not sure if mocking and insulting your “base” is the smartest way to get them on side. After all it is your promises you are reneging on and it always seems to be the issues the “base” is most concerned with that end up on the cutting room floor. Perhaps there is a reverse psychology at work in political strategy today which stipulates that first, you promise to do certain things if elected, second, you fail to do those things and then finally, you mock those discouraged and disengaged by your broken promises. Personally, I don’t see the efficacy of that approach, but it may be brilliant. I’m willing to bet they may be having second thoughts about the wisdom of removing the public option from the health plan.

“Political hyperbole aside, last I heard Grayson’s up by 13 so I wouldn’t say he was desperate”
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So he is full time bat crap crazy! Conservatives may have colorful supporters but Demos elect the whackos.

“I’m not sure if mocking and insulting your “base” is the smartest way to get them on side.”
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No surprise hear. Liberals insult and mock anyone who disagrees with them. If you aren’t with them your dumb and ignorant.

You have no idea , do you?

“…the political question foremost in Washington’s mind is how thoroughly the political party more closely associated with the working class (that would be the Democrats) will get clobbered in the next election. Why aren’t the bottom 99 percent marching in the street?

One possible answer is sheer ignorance. People know we’re living in a time of growing income inequality, Krugman told me, but ‘the ordinary person is not really aware of how big it is.’ [...]

All five quintiles imagined the top quintile to possess about 60 percent of the nation’s wealth. (Again, the real figure is 85 percent.) More surprising still, the average guess of a respondent who’d voted for George W. Bush in the 2004 presidential election was not appreciably different from the average guess of a respondent who’d voted for John Kerry. The Kerry voters imagined the top quintile’s share to be larger than the Bush voters did, but again, both figured it was about 60 percent.”

(see the chart at the link)

The Other Klein on Axelrod, the Obama administration, etc.

“This isn’t an ancient riddle. Dealing with money requires pushing for campaign-finance reform, but the administration responded to the outrage of Citizens United with the band-aid of the DISCLOSE Act rather than the root-and-branch reform of the Fair Elections Now legislation. Partisanship is mainly a problem because of the filibuster, and though Axelrod and the President have lamented the tactic’s prevalence, they haven’t supported efforts to do away with it. They haven’t even made it part of their communications strategy. Remember how often the Bush administration talked about up-or-down votes? As for the news cycle, the administration’s critique of 24-hour news has always been that it doesn’t really matter. And they’re right. And if they want more long-term thinking, they should make more long-term proposals. Instead they’ve abandoned big stimulus projects and contented themselves with small-ball policies that they could pass rather than big-think ideas that could inspire.

Axelrod and the Obama administration may not like Washington. But the reality is, they haven’t done all that much to change it. It’s of course true that they’ve also been busy, and there’s only time for so much in a term. But here, in the days before the election, we’re talking about the Bush tax cuts and offshoring bills. There was room for a push on these issues, if only a rhetorical one. There was room for some new thinking on taxes. There was room for the Fair Elections Now Act. One of Axelrod’s common complaints is that the president’s supporters too often give up when faced with the grueling slog of change. But at times, so too does the White House.”

Careful, Free.
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People who live in glass “O’Donnells” shouldn’t throw stones…
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All the parties have their share of “crazy uncles and aunts who live in the attic”.
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Grayson’s not a “wall-flower”, that’s for certain… and definitely not a “turn-the-other-cheek” type of guy when attacked.

Sharrontology.

“Sharron Angle is just one of the many GOP far right extremists running for office this election, and her latest statements show how far out of the mainstream she really is — calling autism and maternity benefits ‘politically correct special interests’”

It is “you’re,” you dumb ignorant hick.
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/troll
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In other news, it might be possible that given the political climate and the fact that many democrats elected in the previous cycle don’t bill themselves as progressives, that they really did get all they could get on health care. While a public option might be nice, imagine telling every health insurance employee they were going to be out of a job if the public option took off. We might all be better off as a society, but during a huge recession? Please.
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There is something to be said about sitting out letting the right wing have legislative body back because you’re unhappy things are going well enough. And basically, that is that all of the regression will have been enabled by your silence. If you choose not support the democrats or a progressive agenda, you are unfortunately choosing a conservative & very backwards agenda. Not making a choice, is still making a choice.
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When you get down to it, would you rather have McCain or Obama in charge right now? If you want to bring change and more progressive ideas, the place to do it is in the Democratic primaries or from within the administration (assuming you can grab a seat), not from the back seat behind your computer screen jib jabbing away.

I simply made a comment that I don’t think it is smart to insult and mock your base for being disappointed that the candidate of change turned out to be just another centrist. I didn’t say anything about not voting. However, continued attacks from centrists like you may be enough to change that situation. It doesn’t really matter which set of centrists are in power because they are all the same.

Weapon of mass obstruction.

“South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint warned Monday evening that he would block all legislation that has not been cleared by his office in the final days of the pre-election session.

Bret Bernhardt, DeMint’s chief of staff, said in an e-mail to GOP aides that his boss would place a hold on all legislation that has not been cleared by both parties by the end of the day Tuesday.

Any senator can place a hold to block legislation – and overcoming that would require the Senate to take time-consuming steps to invoke cloture, which would require 60 votes.

With the Senate slated to adjourn Thursday untiil after the elections, DeMint’s stance could mean trouble for Democrats if the two parties don’t quickly agree on a stopgap spending measure to keep the government operating past Sept. 30. And that could mean the demise of a slew of other stalled and largely non-controversial bills that both parties are looking to clear before Election Day.”

Republican “Plan” leads to higher deficits than Obama’s budget.

“‘The ‘Pledge to America’ budget would mean $11.1 trillion in deficits over the next 10 years, CAP reported. “By 2020, the federal budget deficit would be 6.3 percent of gross domestic product, the federal debt would exceed 93 percent of GDP, and interest payments on the debt would be more than $1 trillion a year. The budget deficit would be about $200 billion larger in 2020 under the ‘Pledge to America’ plan than it would be under President Barack Obama’s budget, and over the next 10 years deficits would be $1.5 trillion higher than under the president’s budget.’

Now, if Republicans were willing to increase the deficit as part of a larger effort to improve the economy, that’d at least be worth debating. But the ‘Pledge’ intends to pursue policies that already failed to generate growth and create jobs. In other words, they intend to expand the deficit without anything to show for it.

And in case that weren’t enough, the GOP approach complains bitterly about the Obama administration’s fiscal management, but Republicans have nevertheless presented a plan that would run larger deficits, for more years, than the Democratic president.”

We need more stimulus so hard working people like these can catch an even break.
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The teachers union in that Bucks County district has been at odds with the school board for months. Why?

Because they want a “fair” contract.

Pretty much everyone else on this planet calls it greed. Unadulterated greed.

What are they asking from the taxpayers? Salary increases, retroactive to 2008, of 2.75 percent in each of the first two years, 3 percent in the third and fourth years, and 3.5 percent in the final year.

So a teacher making $100,000 a year now will be taking home a guaranteed $116,000 salary for nine months’ work in 2013. What a deal!

And there are quite a few teachers at or near that level: 64 make over $100,000, and over HALF make over $90,000, not including health care benefits.

But hey, times are tough, so the union leadership has another demand, one from which it won’t budge: continued FREE health care.

That’s right. Neshaminy teachers do not pay a single penny towards their health care premiums

Only 67 percent of the district’s 11th graders are proficient in reading. In math, it’s 72 percent.

Yet the taxpayers are pumping out $17,000 per student, per year.

http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2010/09/28/earth-to-neshaminy-teachers-union-have-we-met/

One of em’s prolly this guy.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/09/28/pakistan.militant.killed/index.html?hpt=T2

“People who live in glass “O’Donnells” shouldn’t throw stones…”
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Tiny difference. O’Donnell who has been the subject of thousands of printed words, subject of endless number of talk shows and skits is not even elected. Try and find (outside of conservative sites) the insanity this clown spouts as an elected official. Seems Demos and MSM is ok with crazy as long as its their crazy.
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“not a “turn-the-other-cheek” type of guy when attacked.”
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When attacked? By who? He stepped over the line. And Dems will be the first to scream about negative campaigns.

Obama might actually see a benefit with a narrow Republican majority in the House of Representatives – get a nice enemy to face off with.

Maybe instead of inviting comediennes to testify they could actually work. Or as what is the real reason, they don’t want to be on record for an agenda the people despise before an election.

Democrats are considering cramming as many as 20 pieces of legislation into the lame-duck session they plan to hold after the Nov. 2 election.

The array of bills competing for floor time shows the sense of urgency among Democratic lawmakers to act before the start of the 112th Congress, when Republicans are expected to control more seats in the Senate and House.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/121223-dems-stuff-lame-duck

If you honestly believe that Derek & you think I’m “attacking” you (that horrible joke was aimed at freep, btw, and totally out there on purpose), then I’m not sure what to think myself.
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Let’s look at the options on health care that could have happened:
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1) The glorious government run program (that would have been subject to republican defunding in 8 years time) known as the Public Option. We’ll note a successful public option is a plausible idea. The canadian, fench, & british systems (which often receive the most attention), work very well. The goal for the public option would be to entrench itself so deeply that even Republicans couldn’t have axed it. Its up to you to determine whether you think that could have happened. Me, I don’t think this time around.
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2) The cloudy & foggy version of the bill now which seeks to make sure people get care & can’t be denied coverage. I think ultimately, this needed to be done. It covers up a lot of abuses of the current system. It doesn’t fix prices and we’re all well aware of that. If anything, this should focus the debate now around the cost of health care & not the abuses of insurance companies. My opinion here is that the option that passed, given time will create an environment that allows better reform in the future & possibly a public option.
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3) The republican option: Increase the deficit, Complain about the deficit, privatize everything as much as possible, let people suffer if they don’t have money. Not everyone gets to be happy.
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If you honestly believe the best thing for this country was #1, I might agree with you, but I’d disagree that the people living in this country were ready for the best thing for them. I’d also like to point out we avoided #3. While this may be a “centrist” philosophy, its better than it could have been.
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Is the base allowed to point out where Obama “failed”? Sure, but they should do so honestly. Is Obama allowed to turn around and do the same to the base? I don’t see why not. Ultimately you have to wonder if this back and forth is going to make things worse. Probably, it will, but it takes two to have an argument and liberals started complaining about the president first. If it is unwise for the Obama agenda to pick a fight with “the base,” is it unwise for the “bases agenda” to pick a public fight with Obama?
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Just wondering.

^ I suck at replying ^

Moving it down one.

If you honestly believe that Derek & you think I’m “attacking” you (that horrible joke was aimed at freep, btw, and totally out there on purpose), then I’m not sure what to think myself.
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Let’s look at the options on health care that could have happened:
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1) The glorious government run program (that would have been subject to republican defunding in 8 years time) known as the Public Option. We’ll note a successful public option is a plausible idea. The canadian, fench, & british systems (which often receive the most attention), work very well. The goal for the public option would be to entrench itself so deeply that even Republicans couldn’t have axed it. Its up to you to determine whether you think that could have happened. Me, I don’t think this time around.
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2) The cloudy & foggy version of the bill now which seeks to make sure people get care & can’t be denied coverage. I think ultimately, this needed to be done. It covers up a lot of abuses of the current system. It doesn’t fix prices and we’re all well aware of that. If anything, this should focus the debate now around the cost of health care & not the abuses of insurance companies. My opinion here is that the option that passed, given time will create an environment that allows better reform in the future & possibly a public option.
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3) The republican option: Increase the deficit, Complain about the deficit, privatize everything as much as possible, let people suffer if they don’t have money. Not everyone gets to be happy.
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If you honestly believe the best thing for this country was #1, I might agree with you, but I’d disagree that the people living in this country were ready for the best thing for them. I’d also like to point out we avoided #3. While this may be a “centrist” philosophy, its better than it could have been.
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Is the base allowed to point out where Obama “failed”? Sure, but they should do so honestly. Is Obama allowed to turn around and do the same to the base? I don’t see why not. Ultimately you have to wonder if this back and forth is going to make things worse. Probably, it will, but it takes two to have an argument and liberals started complaining about the president first. If it is unwise for the Obama agenda to pick a fight with “the base,” is it unwise for the “bases agenda” to pick a public fight with Obama?
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Just wondering.

idiotically posted above

Republican crazies already in office, Freep? Michelle Bachmann, FTW.

Yeah, but it’ll be Obama’s fault for 15 years after he leaves office… or until the next Democratic President is elected… or if any Democrat in Congress votes… for anything.
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Note to the “base” out there… “None of the above” never actually takes office. If you want to stick to your principles and complain that you don’t want half measures then please stay home on Election Day and let the likes of Rand Paul determine your future. No half measures there, just holes in space-time that can’t be explained logically.

‘Should also be noted that Grayson’s Hebraic background may have prevented him from grasping the full context of Ephesians 5. Webster for his part should not have told people to just, if you will, “pick out the good parts” and ignore the rest.
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The Apostle Paul was trying to state that, as in all partnerships, they must be mutual. A wife “submitting” herself and a husband “loving his wife as Christ loved the Church and gave Himself for it” is nothing more than mutual submission to each other. In Paul’s view, “submit” does not equal “enslave.”
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So it is wrong for Grayson to imply that Webster wants to keep a woman under the boot of a man. However, for Webster to not comprehend the full Biblical text is also kinda wimpy on his part.

I’m not sure that link says so much about the base, as much as it does the American electorate as a whole.

PolitiFact’s take, for good measure.

http://politifact.com/florida/statements/2010/sep/28/alan-grayson/alan-grayson-calls-opponent-taliban-daniel-webster/

I am sure the CAP used the same static analysis that taxpayers behavior will not be impacted by raising taxes or further deficit spending. I wonder if they also used the rosy GDP forecasts from the Obama WH. for the next 3 years of 2.7% in 2010, 3.8% in 2011 and 4.0% in 2012. 2010 will be around 1.0%.

It would also be a safe bet that all budget numbers of Obama’s HC greatly understate spending just as the initial cost calculations for Social Security did.

Jim DeMint Plans To Grind Senate to a Halt
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Not all dear ol’ Harry’s doing, Free. DeMint’s on a five-star power trip.
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Does he believe that’s what he was elected to do? Gum up the works simply because he can?
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Seem to remember Gingrich did the same thing over some sort of seating disagreement on AF1.
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Is this shutting down the gov’t thing written into the GOP platform somewhere?

“So it is wrong for Grayson to imply that Webster wants to keep a woman under the boot of a man. However, for Webster to not comprehend the full Biblical text is also kinda wimpy on his part”
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Maybe wimpy, but its interesting that no matter how nuts somebody on Team Donkey is, the Republican has to share the blame.
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“Republican crazies already in office,”
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Starks,Waters, Norton, McKinney, Jackson Lee, Dennis Kucinich, Sanders, Frankel,Markey, Waxman, that’s just off the top.

“I suck at replying ”
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So glad you finally realized it

“…no matter how nuts somebody on Team Donkey is, the Republican has to share the blame”
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it’s the Law of the West.

“President Obama is pulling no punches when it comes to Fox News, declaring the cable news outlet to be “destructive to [America's] long-term growth.”
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Seems Fox is now responsible for growing deficits, $13 trillion in debt and 9.7% unemployment.

Who knew?

Law of the nuts

. Fixed it for you.

“Jim DeMint Plans To Grind Senate to a Halt”
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Last I checked Dems have filibuster proof numbers in both houses.

I see wat u did thar!

Last I checked Dems have filibuster proof numbers in both houses.
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Last time I checked, the House didn’t have a filibuster (since 1842!) and there were 41 Repubs, 57 Dems, and 2 Independents.

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there were 41 Repubs, 57 Dems, and 2 Independents in the Senate.

Funny how Freepy just changes the subject, rather than address the comment. And considering the prolific use of “Saul Alinsky” and “Rev Wright” it seems guilt by association is exactly how the GOP like their politics.
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As far as your claim that only Dems elect their crazies, you may want to scan this long list of Republican sex offenders. Crazy, I can live with. Most of the folks on this list should be locked up and the keys tossed.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×1709387

That’s exactly right freek’in. Fox will spread the word that corporate welfare in tax breaks and deregulation will reduce the deficit, bring jobs back from China, and make America more moral. I’d say they’re driving the get-away car and dumping the body, even if they didn’t pull the trigger. Miss Information, meet the American Idiot.

“As far as your claim that only Dems elect their crazies, you may want to scan this long list of Republican sex offenders”
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Seriously, a constable among other locals. What you linked to a site dedicated to Republican Deranged Syndrome. There no doubt is an opposing list of Democrats compiled by a similar useless and deranged person.
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Seems you fit right among them.

That’s right the Demos have been losing dictatorial grip with more to come. Can’t convince Spectre and Liebermann (more Democratic than Republican) and “moderate NE Repubs to vote for their agenda.
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Tells you more about the agenda than the Senators

gum0nshoe the Canadian system is a universal public option. It isn’t exactly comparable. There is no way the public option would have reduced the total cost of the system by 50%, or led to lower taxes, even for the rich, the way the Canadian system has. However, there is no sense debating the health care law over again. The centrists won the battle, as they do most. The public option was a way to lower costs, as the CBO study demonstrated. That would be the only reason to do the public option, or keep it, if you wanted to lower the cost of health insurance. If that cost reduction idea is too radical, the Republicans could repeal it when they get a chance.

Personally, I think the 50 state strategy needs a little shaking out. I’m not sure it can survive if the only group that calls the shots are the minority in red states, because they are vulnerable. At some point reason ought to re-enter the equation and the party weigh all sides before cutting corners. Then they won’t have to keep going around mocking the vast majority of their supporters, who live in big cities, near water.

Tough to face that Obama and the agenda the left is pushing is reprehensible to a majority of America. Such is the lot in life of a liberal nut job
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Yours and Obama’s reaction is to be expected. The policies you push hold no one responsible so one can expect you and Obambi not to take responsibility for a failed philosophy. Blaming someone else is job 1

While I agree, you don’t want to cull the party.
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If you want progressive ideas to win out, there needs to be more progressive propaganda. Its that simple. There’s a reason people still hate socialism. There’s a reason the tea party is taking off. There’s a reason fox news has high rates of viewers. Its not moral or ethical even, but propaganda is the only thing that will actually win the war. Sure, there was a popular uprising for Obama, but it was aided by how many people wanted him to be elected beyond policy. It may not be repeatable. In two years, the ideas behind the election have been painted in blood. No one wants to touch them for fear of getting that blood on their hands.
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Sure there are people like you, and me to an extent, that still believe in a lot of the liberal ideology, but with out shepherding the sheeple that won’t matter much. Obama’s tactic might not be the best one, but neither is the one you’re proposing.

gum0nshoe I didn’t say anything about a culling. I merely suggested that they need to find a way to include all corners of the tent in policy, rather than always excluding a certain part, which may be smallish in national terms, but is huge in terms of the party. Why did those guys from the south even run as Democrats? Isn’t there some reason why they consider themselves to be liberals, rather than conservatives?

“Those who scored the highest were atheists and agnostics, as well as two religious minorities: Jews and Mormons. The results were the same even after the researchers controlled for factors like age and racial differences.

“Even after all these other factors, including education, are taken into account, atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons still outperform all the other religious groups in our survey,” said Greg Smith, a senior researcher at Pew. ”
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I am not surprised by this.
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Those of us willing to stick out neck out and say that we do not believe there are any gods are, usually, people who have done more of their homework, shopped around for a religion which made the most sense and went home with an empty cart, but a strong knowledge about all of the religions.

“Couldn’t they have just called it “beattheboner.com” and complete the parody?”
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Then send links to Christine O’Donnell just to make her blush.
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Why aren’t Democratic strategists reading Swampland for new ideas?

“…he falsely accused his opponent of being a draft dodger during the Vietnam War, and of not loving his country.”
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Once, a team of Vietnam War draft dodgers ran for office and accused a Vietnam war hero in their own party of having PTSD and not being competent to serve, Then they ran against another War Hero and accused him of not really being a war hero.
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That would be the chickenhawk team of Bush and Cheney against McCain and, later, Kerry.
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Where do did a Democrat get the idea of sinking so low?
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FTW!
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Only people born between 1968 and 1975 (or maybe their parents) have any idea what you are saying.
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“…just as the initial cost calculations for Social Security did.”
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Those original estimates were in 1935!
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The average age to die was 59.9 years old, so, the biggest problem is that people keep on living and staying healthy.
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Also, of course, better services were added onto social security, but, back in 1935, when you were in your early 70s and did not know that you were among the undead you loved social security and have lived to milk it for the past 75 years.
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Then, if anybody younger wants it, Freakinpa, you are opposed to it.
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Classic Republican. “I’ve got mine, so go F yourself.”

Central Bucks County High School East and Central Bucks County High School West both ranked very well on the US News Best High Schools In America.
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http://education.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/listings/high-schools/pennsylvania
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If you want a limousine, don’t expect to pay cab fare for it.

“…the agenda the left is pushing is reprehensible to a majority of America…
The policies you push hold no one responsible so one can expect you and Obambi not to take responsibility for a failed philosophy.”
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1) A stepped redeployment of our troops out of an unlawful war of aggression based upon lies – reprehensible! (right). And do so is a failure (compared to keeping our troops in battle forever).
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2) Forbidding insurance companies from refusing to insure children with pre-existing conditions – reprehensible (right?). Success I guess would be for insurance companies to turn down everybody who sneezes twice in one day.
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3) Adding more troops to Afghanistan with the aim of neutralizing the threat completely so that there will be no more 9/11s – reprehensible (right?). Success is that every American city gets attacked by terrorists so that Republicans can win again and again and call all opponents “unpatriotic”.
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4) Through TARP II preventing two out of three automakers from causing millions of layoffs – reprehensible (right?). Success would be another four, five or six million people out of work to prove some dumb point.
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5) The stimulus package preventing a dip down to a second Great Depression and ending the recession – reprehensible (right?). Success would be if unemployment were an official 15% and an actual 25%.
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6) Extending unemployment benefits to needy family who lead by people who work hard as long as there is a job who will hire them – reprehensible (right?). Success would be if these people would beg on the sidewalks and live in Hoovervilles in places like Central Park.
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Wow, you are so out of touch with reality that it is amazing that you even know what year it is.

“:Where do did a Democrat get the idea of sinking so low?”

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Its genetic!

“Those original estimates were in 1935!”

Wrong then wrong now!

And once again your post has nothing to do with the overpaid under achieving bunch at Neshaminy.

You just can’t seem to help yourself. Rather than quit pushing a losing position ,you choose stupidity.

“Wow, you are so out of touch with reality that it is amazing that you even know what year it is.”

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Draw a time line for these and superimpose Obama and Demo Congress ratings on top. As the agenda gets implemented the farther the pathetic fall.

Now adjust your tin-foil hat.

“Its genetic!”
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Yeah, liberal kids inherited it from there right wing dads.

“Wrong then wrong now!”
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That’s the Democrats retort to Republicans.
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Republicans against the New Deal Wrong then wrong now!
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Republicans against civil rights legislation Wrong then wrong now!
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Republicans against bank regulation Wrong then wrong now!
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Right wingers against the EPA Wrong then wrong now!
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Right wingers against OSHA Wrong then wrong now!
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Republicans supporting an end to the Glass Stegal Act Wrong then wrong now!
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You know, I think that should be the Democratic ad campaign- Republicans: Wrong then wrong now!

It got a rating of 7 out of 10.
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Sounds like it is successful to me.
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http://www.greatschools.org/pennsylvania/langhorne/Neshaminy-School-District/
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You just beg to be made fun of.

“As the agenda gets implemented the farther the pathetic fall.”
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Draw a graph of Republicans outspending Democrats six to one and see that the approval rating for Democrats in the generic ballot is the mirror image of right wing spending.
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For the candidate by candidate ballot, it is not going to be this huge sweep you dream of. Keep in mind that campaign season has just begun.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/26/snl-gay-wedding-mosque_n_739593.html
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Here is a solution to the NY mosque problem. It puts all of those people and events Republicans hate into one place. Think of the Pam Geller protests.
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Watch video.

“Yeah, liberal kids inherited it from there right wing dads”

Its a recessive gene where the dad is carrier and becomes a full blown disease (mental disorder) in liberal kids

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That’s the Democrats retort to Republicans”

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Yes because its always somebody else fault when the organizations that the left push fails.

“Only 67 percent of the district’s 11th graders are proficient in reading. In math, it’s 72 percent”
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“It got a rating of 7 out of 10.
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Sounds like it is successful to me”
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No surprise you celebrate mediocrity.

In November generic ballots will be worth welll what your opinion is—nothing.

What about Mama Death Panel Palin?
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There must be a maternal side to this gene.

“Yes because its always somebody else fault when the organizations that the left push fails.”
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Like Minerals and Mining Services, a “leftist” idea when it was created gets neutered and turns into a place for industry whores to have sex with and provide drugs and bribes to (all of the things Republicans, in reality, stand for – corruption and bribery) approving wells that break down under the Democratic administration, it is the right wing’s fault.

“No surprise you celebrate mediocrity.”
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I support improvement rather than decline. You support going back to pre-FDR and turning things back to hard times for everybody.

In preference to being the court jester of Swampland as you are.

Well then your life long dream of being nothing has been more than fulfilled.

“I support improvement rather than decline. You support going back to pre-FDR and turning things back to hard times for everybody.”

Yes you support improvement. Nice bumper sticker. If you did you would not be arguing in favor of teachers obstructing improvement for $$$.

And yes I can see how firing incompetent teachers earning six figure salaries would be hard times for everyone. What a psychotic drama queen.

Another pointless dimwitted post from a pointless dimwitted mass of gelatinous humanity.

“If you did you would not be arguing in favor of teachers obstructing improvement for $$$.”
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From your left ass cheek you say that you want improvement for your money. From your right ass cheek you say that schools are too expensive.
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It’s too bad you don’t grasp the market principal that higher quality labor costs more or the simple concept that when students are behind that it takes years to catch them back up again, but, whining about everything is what you do best when all you know about the world is what the right wing media of Fox and AM radio tell you what to think.

“In preference to being the court jester of Swampland as you are.”
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“Well then your life long dream…”
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We are talking about lifelong dreams being fulfilled here on Swampland? I thought that this was just a way I killed time during an awful economy!
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Well if being the butt of every joke from liberal here is, indeed, your lifelong dream, then I guess I was wrong about you. You did succeed at something.
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You make us all laugh, Freakinpa.
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Who needs Stephen Colbert to be a fake right wing nut when we have you?

In other words, Freak, you know that lying about opponents was a Karl Rove specialty, taking Nixon’s work and making it into an art form and replicated by Sarah Palin.
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You just hate it when punching bags punch you back and kick your ass.