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Election Road Trip, Day 22: Battered Democrat Syndrome

Joe Klein has dinner at retired account Bill Chavez's house in Yuba City, California. Photography by Pattie Chavez for TIME.


Yuba City, California

Traveling Companion: Dalia Mogahed

Event: Meeting with Yuba City Democrats

It is now official. The very best thing about this trip has been the meetings that you, dear readers, have arranged for me with your friends, neighbors and co-workers. The final one took place last night, arranged by Bill Chavez–a retired accountant. Bill invited me to dinner at his house and then hired a local hall for our meeting. He invited the town officials, all of whom are Republican, plus the local Democratic committees. No Republicans showed up, which is probably attributable to the fact that Bill is an outspoken Democrat.

First, though, the dinner. Bill and his wife Pat are from the Bay Area. They retired to Yuba City because it was halfway between their children (and, more to the point, their grandchildren) in Chico and Silicon Valley. They bought a home in a now-bankrupt subdivision called Dunmore, a warren of 3-5 bedroom stucco homes that looks like any other California subdivision, except for one rather crucial factor.

Bill is a half-Filipino, half-Panamanian; Pat is an Anglo–which made her unique on their block. One by one, the Chavez’s neighbors appeared: he had Hindus from Indian Punjab on one side; Muslims from Pakistani Punjab on the other. A neighbor named Boniface, recently arrived from Zimbabwe and studying to be a psychiatric technician, dropped by. Jeannie Klever, the chair of the local Democratic committee, and her husband Dale dropped by. We repaired outside to several tables set up for dinner. Ed and Yesenia, Mexican-Americans from across the street, joined us. (At this point, my traveling companion Dalia Mogahed, a pollster who is director of Gallup’s Muslim Studies Center and wears hejab, was beginning to look more at home than me. Dalia grew up in Madison, Wisconsin, in a neighborhood as diverse as Dunmore–but she was astonished and exhilarated by this flagrant display of American heterodoxy all the same–and observed, accurately, that Bill and Pat, the retirees, were crucial: they were the people with the time and energy to knit the neighborhood together.)

The topic turned from politics to…youth soccer. Ed and Yesenia have three kids, all players. Practice is three days a week, games twice a weekend. “We don’t have practice tonight,” Ed said. “Freedom!”

Meeting with the Yuba City Progressives in California. Photography by Pattie Chavez for TIME


I could have stayed there for hours, savoring the food and the scene, but we had a meeting to attend. About 70 people showed up. The mood was immediately set by the first speaker, Pam Circo, who said: “I really don’t know what’s happening to us in this country. I used to be able to have civil conversations with my friends who are Republicans, but I can’t anymore. We argue about Obama constantly. He’s socializing medicine. He’s raising taxes. It’s very upsetting. I try to tell them the fact, that those things aren’t true. But they won’t listen. A whole part of my life, talking to friends about politics, no longer exists. It’s very upsetting.”

The next gentleman to speak was a Sikh named A.S. Sekhon, a medical doctor and retired Colonel in the U.S. Army–the first Sikh battalion commander, he later told me. “Both the Republicans and Democrats have screwed us in pretty good. They’ve outsourced 11 million jobs. Both parties allowed this to happen. Clinton started it and Bush continued it. Now those 11 million are getting welfare checks. You can’t have a great country without manufacturing. We have to find a way to bring those jobs back or we will be second to China.” (Dr. Sekhon later told me that 25,000 Sikhs live in Yuba City, the first were deserters from the British Army in Canada, who arrived in 1906.)

I’m not sure where A.S. is getting his figure, though he’s obviously using some hyperbole here. The BLS doesn’t tabulate total outsourcing/offshoring of jobs. (A quick call to their expert line elicited, “There’s not really a way to even count that.”) But 11 million did pop up as a total estimate of American jobs lost during the Great Recession in a WSJ op-ed about outsourcing and how that practice may keep many jobs from coming back.  - Katy Steinmetz

There was a fair amount of debate about Dr. Sekhon’s point. The Democrats were divided on free trade, though united in their fear that the country was slipping in the economic with China. They also were united in support of President Obama (with one exception, a woman who worked for Planned Parenthood who was upset that the President wasn’t more outspoken on civil liberties infringements: “The Republicans talk about us losing our freedom–and they’re right,” she said. “But the problem isn’t socialism. It’s wiretapping and the other government intrusions into our lives.”) Many of their comments, throughout the evening, expressed dismay about the quality of discourse in the country, the anger they see and hear on television, the one-sidedness of their local newspaper. A woman named Francie Lane brought a copy of the paper up to me and showed that day’s news: a long, long front page story about the rigor and worthiness of the Tea Partiers; an editorial trashing the idea of raises tax rates for people with incomes over $200,000 to Clinton levels, and celebrating the wealthy for producing American prosperity. “Essentially it says, if it weren’t for the wealthy, we’d all be in despair.” (She was right. It did.)

These people were articulate. They made informed observations and asked interesting questions. A young man named Andrew asked me why CNN features non-stop political consultants rather than actual experts. “Something happens in Afghanistan or the economy, and they have these consultants analyzing it rather than people who know something about the topic. Why is that?” Good question; I’ve been wondering about that myself.

Bill and Pat Chavez. Photograph by Joe Klein


But from time to time throughout the evening, I found myself thinking about dinner with Bill and Pat’s neighbors, out on the street in the fading sunlight, kids from a myriad of cultures playing with balls and a variety of wheeled contraptions. I don’t think that Sarah Palin has these people in mind when she talks about “real” Americans; I don’t know how many neighborhoods like this exist. I asked Boniface, the Zimbabwean, if this is how he pictured America would be. “Yes,” he said. “This is just how I imagined it.”  It is just how I imagine America, at its very best, too.

This post is part of my Election Road Trip 2010 project. To track my location across the country, and read all my road trip posts, click here.

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    I support Obama as well (although disapointed in his lack of leadership and salesmanship), but am also extremely upset about the continueing erosion of our central freedoms – no habeas corpus, assasination of US citizens on the President’s say-so, without due process. The lawlessness of the Bush adminstration with no consequences (torture, wiretapping, etc.)…no one seems to care about these things because they don;t see how it affects their daily lives. I got a call yesterday from the Democratic Party and told them how disgusted I am – who is fighting for my rights/freedoms/security/economic opportunities? No one.

  • afguy

    And they are “Battered Democrats”… why?
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    Because they can’t find any Republicans to have a discussion with? That they invited the local city council to a meeting with you and no one showed up?
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    Why isn’t the title more of a reflection on the closed-mindedness of the Republican pols in the area?

  • gadsbys

    Good piece Joe.

    That’s the America CNN, MSNBC and Fox should be embedding their reporters with. The opinions of thse folks should be getting on the air rather than the opinions of those inside the beltway. The unscripted voices of Americans need to be heard.

  • nflfoghorn

    Maybe ’cause if the headline told the truth, you wouldn’t read it.

  • allthingsinaname

    Because I haven’t seen the fight. Have you? Look you don’t even see them bring up a Tax that is popular across the board.
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    It is easy to blame the GOP for something they fail to even consider

  • destor23

    This sounds good but there’s a lot wrong with it:

    “Both the Republicans and Democrats have screwed us in pretty good. They’ve outsourced 11 million jobs. Both parties allowed this to happen. Clinton started it and Bush continued it. Now those 11 million are getting welfare checks. You can’t have a great country without manufacturing. We have to find a way to bring those jobs back or we will be second to China.”

    The first mention I remember seeing of outsourcing was in Robert Reich’s The Work Of Nations. That was published in 1990, pre-Clinton.

    While Clinton was certainly a globalist and is certainly partly to blame, the whole thing outsourcing phenomenon really started in the 1980s. I grew up on “made in Hong Kong” toys.

    As for bringing manufacturing jobs back: we do have to ask ourselves if that’s what we want. A lot of those jobs sucked. Dangerous, dirty work.

    If what we really mean is we’d like new industries with better, more rewarding and fulfilling jobs to start here rather than over there, then I think that’s a worthy goal.

  • shepherdwong

    “The Republicans talk about us losing our freedom–and they’re right,” she said. “But the problem isn’t socialism. It’s wiretapping and the other government intrusions into our lives.”
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    Another “civil liberties extremist,” eh Joe. Did you tell her all about how FISA would protect her rights to be free from “government intrusion”?
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/joe-klein-fisa?

  • afguy

    It is easy to blame the GOP for something they fail to even consider…
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    Like the Public Option and single payer that they rejected before HC negotiations began because it “didn’t have the votes”?
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    Yeah, that had “we don’t even want to take the chance that it MIGHT pass” written all over it.

  • Paul-no not that one

    I’m not sure I understand your headline, but good piece.
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    Sounds like a lot (if not most) gatherings of Democrats.
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    Split on Free Trade and largely uniform in supporting BHO.
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    And certainly their observations on the current discourse are hard to disagree with.

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    No matter what sort of abuse the Dem rank-and-file has to endure at the hands of the Party, we have to keep coming back to them because we’re afraid of what will happen if they’re not elected.
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    Something like that?

  • stuartzechman

    Joe Klein:
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    Have you asked any of the Democrats with whom you’ve been in personal contact whether they plan on voting Democrat primarily because
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    A) they are enthusiastic about and satisfied with the Democrats’ and Obama’s policies and effectiveness generally
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    or
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    B) they are anxious about the possibility of either a return to Bush/Cheney/Frist/Delay government, or the empowerment of the Tea Party Republican agenda?

  • afguy

    Stuart,
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    That’s pretty well the sales pitch for BOTH parties right now, isn’t it? Some sort of option B.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Funny GC. So wrong but funny. (Or is it so wrong and funny?)
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    Of course political parties are the members, not the leadership.
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    Theoretically at least.
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    Elect more Frankens/Sanders and fewer Nelsons/Bayhs etc.

  • southernbell49

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  • shepherdwong

    I expect any day now to see CNN covering groups who believe the sun revolves around the earth or think the world is flat because offering opinion is easier (and cheaper) than providing concise information.
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  • Paul-no not that one

    Not to worry shep.
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    Myers has come around since then.
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    http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2010/20100810175942.aspx
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  • grape_crush

    Of course political parties are the members, not the leadership.
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    Now that’s funny.
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    Theoretically at least.
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    A pet theory of mine is that the longer a person spends in a position of high authority/adulation/material wealth (on the same level as major celebrities, politicians, CEOs of large companies, etc), the more everything becomes about them. Shorter: If a person gets told that their sh!t doesn’t stink often enough over time, they run the risk of starting to believe it.
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    At that point, they tell you that you’re being disloyal and whiny because you’re not showing enough appreciation of their current product when you were such a fan of their prior work…

  • shepherdwong

    Myers has come around since then.
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    Yet, as always somehow manages to be the case, the damage is already done:

    For the first time in more than two and a half years, a majority of the American public no longer believes global warming is a “proven fact” that is mostly caused by man, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research.

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    And now Joe relays citizen concerns about government wiretapping. And the flat earth turns.

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  • apr2563

    Joe, I am glad you are wondering why political programs depend on pundits rather than real experts on the topic. I am glad that is so. It is one reason I stopped watching the Sunday political shows.
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    Now, next time Chris Matthews or some other “news/opinion” show asks you to participate, please refuse and suggest they get a real expert to opine about the subject at hand.

  • apr2563

    The Republicans didn’t show up. They are following the lead of Sarah Palin and their Tea Party candidates, only appear on Fox and run from any difficult questions.
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  • lo47

    I was at the event that Joe describes above. We were honored to have him come listen to our concerns. I know that he has to say a lot in a short blog space, but I wanted to correct the record slightly.

    The woman from Planned Parenthood was responding to *his* question asking who was dissatisfied with the President. She began by saying that she *supports* the President, but was disappointed 1) by the President’s failure to repeal the Patriot Act and related assaults on privacy, 2) by the Democrats’ tactic of beginning a negotiation from what they will settle for rather than what they want, and 3) for failing to end torture in all circumstances. All Americans should be comparably distressed. I would personally add to her list, failing to prosecute American violators of the Geneva convention for their torture-related War Crimes.

  • herby002

    1. “These people were articulate. They made informed observations and asked interesting questions.”

    “No Republicans showed up, which is probably attributable to the fact that Bill is an outspoken Democrat.”

    See #1. THAT’s why they didn’t show up. They were scared.

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