Morning Must Reads: Futility

“Halperin says she’s playing chess”
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Fischer taught her?? That’s some accomplishment.
And another kitty…Sacredh>>god this is awful.

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JB: No, Mr. President, he’s Curly, YOU’RE Moe!
Rahm: Woob-woob-woob!

How long will it be before Democrats try this here? Then we can really have “fairness”.

The UK’s tax collection agency is putting forth a proposal that all employers send employee paychecks to the government, after which the government would deduct what it deems as the appropriate tax and pay the employees by bank transfer.

“…Mike Huckabee was quoted as saying that Obama could quell rumors about his faith by ‘leading the example of attending worship’…”
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Whereas he didn’t ask Raygun because the Ouija board indicated “Signs Say No.” Gutless wonders, these ‘Publicans.

…versus tax withholding? If you owe the $ anyway what’s the diff?

What was funnier – the chicken-choking or Rove getting run over by the Express?

Probably never but it’s England so who cares?

Because that would really quell and rumors if he did.

I so wish rightwingers worried about good policy in a time of crisis instead of silly sh!t like this that we can ‘worry’ about when we have 5% unemployment and everything is a-okay.

The philosophical ditch of the fringe is sure pretty shallow.

Putting aside the blatant idiocy of having the government control everyone’s paycheck, do you have any understanding of the tax code? The Treasury will deduct “what it deems as an appropriate tax”. The IRS has enough trouble auditing returns on an annual basis for a select number of returns let alone weekly, bi-weekly or monthly for millions (although that number could go down with Obama’s recovery)

How do we know O’Donnell didn’t cut a deal with the Devil, that night on Satan’s, blood stained alter, and her rise to fame and money now, is not connected to that deal? I’d also like to know why Sarah Palin is promoting Satan’s children.

“Probably never but it’s England so who cares?”

Liberal stupidity knows no geographic bounds

“Putting aside the blatant idiocy of having the government control everyone’s paycheck, do you have any understanding of the tax code? The Treasury will deduct “what it deems as an appropriate tax”. The IRS has enough trouble auditing returns on an annual basis for a select number of returns let alone weekly, bi-weekly or monthly for millions (although that number could go down with Obama’s recovery)”
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Putting aside that this is ENGLAND and we don’t know of efficient or inefficient their tax collection is (nor do we care), I just don’t understand why righties always want to keep on reinforcing their general emotional spinlessness by being scared about everything, anything. It’s England and you’re running around ranting like a raging maniac about ENGLAND. Yes – good on you. Be real scared. The tax monster have invaded England and unless some brave Japanese journalist can uncover taxzillas next target me might never know.
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Seriously.

“I so wish rightwingers worried about good policy in a time of crisis instead of silly sh!t like this that we can ‘worry’ about when we have 5% unemployment and everything is a-okay.

The philosophical ditch of the fringe is sure pretty shallow.”
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The fact that you see no connection between a president who spends his time politicking and blaming others is the silly sh*t that you complain about while unemployment has risen.

I am sure there is no connection what so ever that Obama who has instead golfed or went to the gym on Sunday mornings since April is not worried about the polls that show Americans believe he is a Muslim. Or he has decided that only God can save his Presidency.

“”Probably never but it’s England so who cares?”

Liberal stupidity knows no geographic bounds”
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Thanks for reinforcing two things that I’ve noticed about you/
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1. You can’t distict between a personal opinion and taking it personal. Since you don’t know who I voted for last time I assume you don’t have a argument to make other than when confronted by reality and a fact you chose personal attacks.
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2. It’s England. What about that fact are you refuting? Assuming I am a liberal or whatever that is – you wrote that Liberal stupidity knows no geographic bounds…so you’re a Liberal then since you obviously don’t know that we’re not part of the commonwealth anymore.

Corker Booed By Workers At GM Plant Ceremony, Takes Credit For Saving Industry That He Opposed Saving

Halperin says she’s playing chess.

I’m thinking something more simple, like Tiddlywinks or Candyland. Maybe Life, where the goal is to accumulate enough wealth to retire comfortably.

” I just don’t understand why righties always want to keep on reinforcing their general emotional spinlessness by being scared about everything, anything.”
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Spinelessness is the province of the left. We find the overreaching arm of an intrusive government because we have found over the years there is nothing the left will not involve the government in our lives whether it is control over our money, endless regulation, forcibly having us buy insurance or telling us how much salt we can hav eor where anyone can smoke.

“The fact that you see no connection between a president who spends his time politicking and blaming others is the silly sh*t that you complain about while unemployment has risen.

I am sure there is no connection what so ever that Obama who has instead golfed or went to the gym on Sunday mornings since April is not worried about the polls that show Americans believe he is a Muslim. Or he has decided that only God can save his Presidency.”
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Fact 1. The responsibility for the economic crash belongs to previous administration and political party. Not Obama. You could argue that he have made it worse or not better. But it lies squarly on previous administrations. First and foremost Bush.
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Fact 2. Unless you can prove that a devout Muslim likes to golf and gym on Sundays you have nothing. In fact those doesn’t even count as circumstantial evidence. More like complete nonsense.
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Now explain to me how him proving that he’s a Christian will help our country dig itself out of it’s economic problems?

Wait, O’Donnell made her remark about witchcraft on Bill Maher’s show? You folks in the press know that’s a comedy show, right?

I’m more worried about her actual political views. You know, boring stuff.

Mama Grizzly runs at sight of cub (reporter).

“[Sarah Palin] attended a big $$$$ fundraiser for Rand Paul at the Crown Plaza Hotel, then ventured down the road to Freedom Hall to speak to the National Quartet Convention in front of several thousand elderly white people about God and Trig Palin.

At the Crown Plaza Rand/Palin fundraiser, no media was allowed inside, so various Louisville media were milling around outside hoping to get a quote from anybody as they arrived or left…”

More context at the link.

“You can’t distict between a personal opinion and taking it personal. Since you don’t know who I voted for last time I assume you don’t have a argument to make other than when confronted by reality and a fact you chose personal attacks.”
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Apparently you have a problem reading as well. I saif liberal stupidity knows no geographic bounds. You assumed I meant you. I meant liberals in general, so it is you that can’t make the distinction between personal opinion and taking it personally.But you knee jerk response indicates I would be correct in any case and “who you voted for” is irrelevant.
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“It’s England. What about that fact are you refuting? Assuming I am a liberal or whatever that is – you wrote that Liberal stupidity knows no geographic bounds…so you’re a Liberal then since you obviously don’t know that we’re not part of the commonwealth anymore.”

And this remark confirms your stupidity. Not a personal attack but evidenced by your inability to understand that yes it is a proposal in the UK but liberals here will think its a grand idea and try it here. Hence the stupidity knows no bounds.

If you are going to pi*s and moan about a response from someone at least try and find a grown-up to explain it to you.

ok, well, check out the first link (not to youtube) for context.

And the hits keep on comin’ for O’Donnell.

“A watchdog group says it plans to ask authorities in Delaware to investigate Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell’s finances.

At issue are more than $20,000 of spending in 2009 and 2010 that Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington claims was illegal.[...]

‘For example, in 2009, Miss O’Donnell wasn’t a candidate for anything, yet she had numerous campaign expenses, things like travel and gas, and yet she had no actual campaign,’ Sloan said.

O’Donnell’s spokesperson did not respond to requests for comment.”

“Spinelessness is the province of the left. We find the overreaching arm of an intrusive government because we have found over the years there is nothing the left will not involve the government in our lives whether it is control over our money, endless regulation, forcibly having us buy insurance or telling us how much salt we can hav eor where anyone can smoke.”
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And yet here you are being scared of things going on in England.
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Don’t you get exhausted being scared that Obama might be a Muslim, the community center 2 blocks from ground zero have a prayer room, that Obama spoke to kids telling them to do well indoctrinates them into socialism etc etc.
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Are you not tired of blaming everything on the opposing party without having the integrity to ask the same of your own? That the bat sh!t crazy people coming from the tea party is as bad as the worst that GOP and Democratic party offer?
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Are you not tired of living in a shallow ditch blaming everything on ‘libruls’ without taking all facts into account? What are you worried about? That you might actually realize that there are good liberals that have Americas best interest in mind?
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That the differences are very minor and you’re only digging a greater ditch between your neightbor and yourself simply because you listen to people who couldn’t care less about what happens to you or not as long as their amoral point of view is heard?
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You must think very little of your fellow man if you assume we’re somehow against you because you happen to hang on the fringe.
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We’re talking about political ideas while some on the fringe are actually talking about a civil war. Now that’s scary.
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What England does…not so much.

Dear “Dad,”
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I’m my own person now. You don’t have to sound condescending when you disagree with me, which seems to be 100.00% of the time.

Wasn’t the GOP making snide comments about “Government Motors” not too long ago?

Maybe Jones could bill the media for a percentage of the revenue from the ads run while covering this non-event.

“The city of Gainesville, Florida, plans to send a bill estimated at more than $180,000 to Pastor Terry Jones for security costs surrounding his controversial threat to burn Qurans on the anniversary of the September, 11, 2001, attacks, a police spokeswoman said Friday.

Police agencies spent more than a month working on security plans to ensure the community surrounding Jones’ Dove World Outreach Center — the planned site of the burning — was safe, according to Gainesville police spokeswoman Cpl. Tscharna Senn.

Jones also told authorities he received numerous death threats because of the planned protest, which he called off amid increasing pressure from world leaders.

The Gainesville Police Department said it spent more than $100,000 while the Alachua County Sheriff’s Office spent an estimated $80,000 during the weekend of the planned demonstration.”

“Fact 1. The responsibility for the economic crash belongs to previous administration and political party. Not Obama”
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Repeating something over and over does not make it a fact. Thje roots of the housing bubble goes back to the 1990s when legislation from Clinton and a Democratic Congress forced lenders to give mortgages to unqualified people (housing affirmative action) or suffer criminal offense form the DOJ. Fannie and Freddie are chalk full of bad mortgages. Both organizations were run by ex-Clintonites who committed fraud and cooked the books. Both were protected by Barney Frank who protested when Bush wanted to overhaul then in the mid-2000s. Taxpayers are still on the hook for over $400 billion in mortgages at these 2 lenders and with ta Democratic COngress have managed to skip any changes with the “Consumer Financial Protection Bill”.
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“Fact 2. Unless you can prove that a devout Muslim likes to golf and gym on Sundays you have nothing.”

The only “fact” you have is that I used the word Muslim, golf, gym and Sunday in a post. I merely pointed out that his sudden visit to church had more to do with politics than religion.
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Seriously if you have that much trouble understanding any post step away from the computer. You will hurt yourself.

It depends on which end of Rove the guts squish out of when he gets run over by the express.
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FYI only:
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I was startled by a brief flash near the road center line last night.
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Until I realized it was my headlights reflecting from the eyes of a recently-deceased raccoon…

‘Prolly why he’s trying to leave town.

freeinpa:
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Are you still trying to blame Clinton for everything?
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Why am I not surprised…

“(…) But you knee jerk response indicates I would be correct in any case and “who you voted for” is irrelevant”
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With logic like this who needs an education.
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“And this remark confirms your stupidity. Not a personal attack but evidenced by your inability to understand that yes it is a proposal in the UK but liberals here will think its a grand idea and try it here. Hence the stupidity knows no bounds.

If you are going to pi*s and moan about a response from someone at least try and find a grown-up to explain it to you.”
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You know. It’s like you can’t help reinforce what I just wrote.
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You can’t help yourself.
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With my confirmed un-grown up’d stupidity I just have to ask you this -
what exactly other than the English language have we or for that matter the democratic party taken from England?
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Will this be the one thing?

HA! My brother and I were hypothetically discussing whether we’d run over a deer (which we occasionally see in North FL) or swerve. I would probably swerve if it were safe to do so, but if not we’re having venison for dinner.

Work your fingers to the bone – whadda ya get | Boney Fingers – Boney Fing-gers

“Remember ‘labor force participation’ is the unemployed and the employed together. So staying in the labor force doesn’t mean working. And notice the bold again; althought older workers’ unemployment rate has more than doubled more older workers are staying in the labor force. This will continue because of “trends in retirement and health benefits.” Which is to say that they are more likely to be looking for work lately even though they seem, on a first cut, to have harder labor market matching and outcomes.

And heh. Yes, ‘trends in retirement and health benefits’, if you read earlier, means Social Security, pension and retiree benefits have eroded in value and older workers are desperate to find work even if it means futile and incredibly long-duration unemployment searches. And the next ‘trends in retirement benefits’ may be the move to cut Social Security benefits and raise the retirement age unless people let their voices be heard.”

freeinpa, as he deomonstrates to Obama:
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See my hand? These are your nuts. Any questions?

Better still why don’t Afghanistan or Pakistan families ask him for compensation for the deaths of loved ones who got shot by their governments because protests of the non-event got out of hand?

Clinton Laughfest on the Sunday Propaganda shows

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Clinton claimed, incorrectly that the national debt went down when he was President.

Actually it rose every year and overall rose $394 billion.

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Clinton said the reason Repubs are winning is that are running articulate candidates with no agenda.

Isn’t that what he said about Obama? And should we lock up the female candidates to protect them from Slick Willie?

He’d be booed at the Nissan, Toyota and Kia plants they have up there too.

Um. Don’t. Just don’t.
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You will end up with the absliutely nastiest tasting venison you ever tasted.
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They have scent glands and even if you prefer a gun to a car, you have to have some reasonable care when dressing ‘em.
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Take my word for it, the front end of a car is not that discriminating…

Iq5 back from your rest after all your self imposed victory laps? (It sounds better than be released from the ward.)

What would you say if a Republican candidate had given a speech and said “We must guard against change” and “we must turn back the clock”?

I bet your race baiting alarm would have exploded on impact.

Does that mean Thomas Jefferson was a Nazi?

“…in Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists, he did speak of ‘“a wall of separation between Church & State.’ If [GOP congressional candidate Glen] Urquhart is trying to draw a distinction between ‘separation of Church and State’ and ‘separation between Church & State,’ that seems pretty hard to justify. But in any case, a quick Google Books search for ‘separation of church and state’ before 1900 reveals many references; in American court cases alone, it dates back to 1825 (in an argument of counsel) and 1840 (in a judge’s opinion). I’ve found several references before the letter to the Danbury Baptists…”

Yet Fannie and Freddie contributed to something like 10% of the problem. Facts sucks that way. They (facts) simply do not support your assertion that Fannie and Freddie somehow lead to the crash.
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And I’m not worried about getting hurt with a shallow ditch like yours. Again – what exactly have taking less vacations then Bush and going to the gym on Sundays to do with being a Muslim?
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When you’re done deflecting I’d like an honest response.

Candyland

IQ5 sticking your head in the sand or in your case up your arse doesn’t change the fact of what happened. IQ5 facts work in Liberalville but no where else.

“Yet Fannie and Freddie contributed to something like 10% of the problem”
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See now that contradicts the liberal playbook who have said Fannie and Freddie had nothing to do with it. By you mere admission that it was maybe “10%” is an indication of one or two things:

1) its higher than that

2) you have no idea

I had a great-uncle who supplied us with deer meat all the time. Somehow he prepped it so that it wouldn’t taste so gamey. I shuddered though when I got duped into eating fried rabbit disguised as chicken. Twice.

Freakinpa,
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The Prime Minister of England belongs to the Conservative Party.
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Unlike the US, with a parliamentary system The PM always is in the majority Party.
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So, your comments should read as follows:
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“Spinelessness is the province of the RIGHT. We find the overreaching arm of an intrusive government because we have found over the years there is nothing the left will not involve the government in our lives whether it is control over our money, endless regulation, forcibly having us buy insurance or telling us how much salt we can hav eor where anyone can smoke.”
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BTW: I smoke and, since I know from those who study medicine that it is extremely unhealthy and out of respect for other people, respect the laws. Unlike right wingers, I read and listen to the results of science. I do not say that since I do not feel ill that I will never have to quit or make up my own story. I listen to those of who have studied the matter. Also, unlike the far right wing, I know we are all members of a society where you don’t get smoke into other people’s faces, you don’t drain your sewage into your neighbor’s yard, you do not dump toxic waste wherever you feel like, you do not bury toxic waste where it will seep into other people’s water supply, you don’t bring guns into places where they are not wanted are all a part of being a member of society.

Obama goes to church this past Sunday but at the Hispanic Black Caucus speech he could not even bring himself to say the word “Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence.

What is interesting is not only is the Declaration written with the word “Creator” in it but he stumbled over his teleprompter which redoubtably have it in his speech.

“See now that contradicts the liberal playbook who have said Fannie and Freddie had nothing to do with it.”
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Not that I read any playbooks – but I’ve yet to hear any liberal source that said they had anything to do with it.
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Where do you get your information from?
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No wonder you think Obama is a Muslim – better not take vacation or work out on Sunday, you might a Muslim.

Apparently English Conservatives do not listen to the Beatles;
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I heard the early Beatles all of my childhood – but who between the ages of 30 and 50 hasn’t?

First Cuba now…

Russia plans to slash 100,000 bureaucrat jobs by 2013, Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin said on Monday, in a drive to reduce costs and modernize the country’s bloated bureaucracy.

Only US seems to not realize the fallacy of a big bureacuracy!

Oh the humanity! He forgot to acknowledge God!!! Did Bleck point this out to you or you made it up all by yourself?

Also, too:
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[Oh, there's no issues with raising the retirement age to 70].
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“The most recent recession has increased the need to extend working life. Home values, often a family’s most important asset, have been battered. Stock portfolios are only now starting to recover. According to a Gallup poll in April, more than a third of people not yet retired plan to work beyond age 65, compared with just 12 percent in 1995.

Older workers who lose their jobs could pose a policy problem if they lose their ability to be self-sufficient. ‘That’s what we should be worrying about,’ said Carl E. Van Horn, professor of public policy and director of the John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University, ‘what it means to this class of the new unemployables, people who have been cast adrift at a very vulnerable part of their career and their life.’

Forced early retirement imposes an intense financial strain, particularly for those at lower incomes. The recession and its aftermath have already pushed down some older workers. In figures released last week by the Census Bureau, the poverty rate among those 55 to 64 increased to 9.4 percent in 2009, from 8.6 percent in 2007.”

Freakinpa,
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When 70% of Americans think Sarah Palin isn’t qualified to be president and 30% think that she is, that is not a majority supporting Sarah Palin.
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When 85% of Climatologists believe that Climate change is real, caused by human beings and can be prevented and 15% don’t, that would mean that your POV in not founded.
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When 90% of PhD Economists believe that increasing spending, particularly in targeting hiring the lowest income people and lest effectively by cutting taxes for the wealthiest, and 10% don’t you are in the unsupported side of the argument.
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When 90% of the toxic assets were created by under regulated banks behaving badly and 10% by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack following suit, that would mean that deregulation is 90% of the problem and believing in deregulation for operating government managed agencies is 10% of the problem. Hence, it was the result of conservative poicies.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/36941846/Don_t_Blame_Fannie_Mae_for_Housing_Crisis_Raines

The former CEO Fraud or you can check Barney Franks office.
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Where do you get your information from?”

From the real world, I suggest you try it. Unfortunately after seeing a demonstration of your reading comprehension here, I am not sure what you read will make any difference.
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“No wonder you think Obama is a Muslim”

Here is the proof of your ability to comprehend anything. I defy you to show me where I said Obama was a Muslim!

I don’t know what’s more hypocritical: Raygun – whose wife preferred soothsaying over church worship and both getting a pass – or BO getting ragged because people incorrectly think he’s a Muslim (and if he was, so what?)

nflfoghorn.
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Free is not the first one to mention it. I read some other forums as well and it’s the new ‘horrible’ outrage amongst the right fringe.
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It proves whatever they have said all along…whatever that is.

My Uncle hit a deer a few months ago… No venison, just a banged up front end.
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The deer jumped up and ran away.
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I heard good things about farm raised venison, but never had the opportunity to try it.

freeinpa:
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The libtards on this site want the government to take care of them. They are simply too LAZY to get out and work for it themselves.
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Liberals and more specifically progressives want a socialist system in America, because that has worked so well for all the rest of the European neo-Socialist countries like England.
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However, our libtards are too stupid to realize that the neo-Socialism which has been in Europe all of these years is falling apart, it simply DOES NOT WORK.
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Here in their own words is what they are working towards. Here is what they want to do to our country. Each and everyone of these progressives have been working on one goal in their life. The complete destruction of this country as we know it.
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The first video on this webpage is indisputable. It IS in their own words. There is no doubt once you listen to what they say. November cannot come too soon.
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http://www.bedfordcountypatriots.com/events-and-news.php

Hmm I wonder if the District of Columbia can bill SEIU for providing a police escort to another state to picket (and terrorize) the household of a bank executive.

At the the police in Florida were doing a job they are actually paid for — protecting the people of the legal jurisdiction that they are employed.

“A FOIA request reveals contradictions in statements made to Congress, the Civil Rights Commission, and to the public. Some of these statements were made under oath.”

It seems the DOJ not only protested too much about a non-event (so deemed by the left), it seems perjury may be a bit of a problem. No wonder stonewalling was the order of the day for the most transparent administration ever. Hard to drain the swamp when you are the swamp. But by all means let’s focus on whether O’Donnell is a witch!

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/proof-new-records-show-doj-lied-about-new-black-panther-dismissal/.

Recession Declared at an End

Source

The agency responsible for checking data declared the recession ended in June. They admit the recovery is tepid at best and a double dip remains a possibility, but they still declare the recession is over. This won’t make people with out a job feel much better, but it is at least a silver lining.

Newfreakenblog,
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Why did England, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands and Belgium experience so much growth as to approach US in per capita GDP after becoming “socialist” if it doesn’t work?

The libtards on this site want the government to take care of them. They are simply too LAZY to get out and work for it themselves.
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Do you idiots really believe this?
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I made over $200K last year. My wife pulled in nearly as much. I live in a Blue State, which means I and my neighbors pay more in federal taxes than we get back, as we Blue States support the redneck welfare queens in Red State Real Murica.
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How about you, Rusty? What did you pull down last year? Do circus freak shows pay a lot?

“I shuddered though when I got duped into eating fried rabbit disguised as chicken. Twice.”
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Twice, foghorn?
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Was your uncle using his truck or his gun?

“Clinton claimed, incorrectly that the national debt went down when he was President.

Actually it rose every year and overall rose $394 billion.”
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Really?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms#Gross_federal_debt
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Freakinpa’s motto, “Facts? We don’t need no stinkin’ facts!”

I see that freeinpa is just looking for a spanking.
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Sorry, freeinpa, but beating really, really dead horses such as Clinton and this one isn’t going to do it.
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You are so, so, so 2002…

At least Sarah Palin can’t stumble over her hand, or can she, freeinpa?

Rev Jim I see your meds wore off early today.
“The Prime Minister of England belongs to the Conservative Party.
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Unlike the US, with a parliamentary system The PM always is in the majority Party.
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So, your comments should read as follows:”

Your one follows the other brand of logic as usual is idiotic and childish..

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“BTW: I smoke and, since I know from those who study medicine that it is extremely unhealthy and out of respect for other people, respect the laws. Unlike right wingers, I read and listen to the results of science.”

Hmm ok now since you seem to like cause and effect with science try this. Since the transmission of AIDs which is deadly, expensive to our health care system is caused by primarily 2 causes homosexual sex and drug use. Should we outlaw same sex marriage and criminalize homosexuality and any and all drug users?

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“you do not bury toxic waste where it will seep into other people’s water supply,”

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Apparently your fellow liberals disagree with you since they have essentially outlawed incandescent bulbs in favor of mercury filled ones that will end up in landfills (and the water supply). Just another shining example of how illogical the liberal mind is and why it real is a mental disorder.

So that was why the sun broke through the heavy dark storm clouds a minute ago. I could have sworn it was just a local weather phenomena…

BatKing wants a blood-bonded Boehner.

“But the party is already backing itself into a corner. The House Minority Leader has already said scrapping the entire health care reform law is his top priority, and Boehner’s caucus — and the party base — will expect follow-through. Boehner could pass a repeal bill in the House, but after it failed in the Senate or got vetoed, he wouldn’t be able to say, ‘Well, we gave it a shot; let’s move on to other issues now.’ It’s too late for that — defunding the law is already far too popular within the GOP. There’s an expectation that the fight has to happen.

King is demanding a “blood oath” to ensure it does happen.[...]

But those perceptions are changing quickly, and for good reason. This really isn’t manufactured drama — much of the Republican Party is intent on making this happen. [...]

It’s not theater; it’s not posturing; it’s not an idle pre-election threat. Voters should appreciate how serious this is before heading to the polls.”

freeinpa, you are such a slut for a verbal beating.
I’ve seen you take more blows today than those guys on Wipeout trying to get past the “knockout” wall…

Little kevie you made 200K last year is a figment of your wild imagination. A delusion that you can only have. If you made that amount prove it or crawl back in your hole.
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More like, “I made $20,000 off the government and that includes my food stamp subsidy”. Isn’t that the truth, little kevie?

So the former CEO is ‘liberals’?
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You find a article where a CEO says that Fannie was not to be blamed for the crisis and it’s ‘liberals’?
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And if you don’t think he’s a Muslim why do you even bother arguing about it? Seriously.
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You can of course speculate in just how smart I am all you want but so far you haven’t supplied anything that bolster or support anything you write.
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As I said – a very shallow ditch.
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Sure thing, Rusty. I’ll have my accountant fax you a copy of my 1099s. I’m sure you can be trusted with the information.
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Christ, what a f*cking idiot.

Rev Jim still testing positive for stupid!

.”When 70% of Americans think Sarah Palin”
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Never once opined on Palin as a Presidential candidate one way or another. You must be answering those questions you are hearing in your head again.

“When 85% of Climatologists believe that Climate change is real, caused by human beings and can be prevented and 15% don’t, that would mean that your POV in not founded”

Proves no such thing. Until recently Climatologists were threatened and abused for any differing opinion. That has changed and the so has the results.

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“When 90% of PhD Economists believe that increasing spending,”

I see you changed your math of this argument since you embarrassed yourself last week. But the real question is: Are these the same PhDs that said all of the spending of the Bush Administration which caused deficits were bad but this spending increasing deficits is good?

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“believing in deregulation for operating government managed agencies is 10% of the problem. Hence, it was the result of conservative poicies.”

Again you are not entitled to your own facts.It was laws passed under CLinton in the 1990s and enforced by the Clinton DOJ that forced sub-prime mortgages to be made. They also lowered the down payment required so essentially there was no equity in teh house. You must think if you add “90%” to your opinions (not facts) is sounds more impressive. It may buts its only to those voices in your head
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IQ5 still declaring your own facts and declaring victory based on well nothing but your own delusions. Maybe you and Rev Jim and hippoath can get a group rate on your meds.

Let’s just say Bugs got plugged by Yosemite Sam

In news for the far right: Mussolini defeated in 1943, Pétain defeated in 1944, HItler defeated in 1945, Salazar’s Fascist Portugal falls 1970, Franco’s fascist government falls 1975.

So, Freep, you ARE going to help “Pastor” Jones with his bills. Good for you!

During the Great Depression GDP had 6 quarterly bounces with an average gain of 8% during 1929-33. To date we have had 4 quarterly advances in GDP with an average of only 3%..

You may want to hold that champagne popping party

Man o Man these posts are turning into Morning Must Not Read

“”I made $20,000 off the government and that includes my food stamp subsidy”"
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Which $15,000 more than Christine O’Donnel made last year. Just sayin’ …

Rev Jim still having trouble facing the realities of TODAY. But it nice to see you saved your history books from your dropout years. You are still a failure just like the Big Government” philosophy.

In news for the far right: Mussolini defeated in 1943, Pétain defeated in 1944, HItler defeated in 1945, Salazar’s Fascist Portugal falls 1970, Franco’s fascist government falls 1975.

I’m pretty sure the agency that makes these rulings does so on a 6 month basis, not quarters… but no one here is popping out champaign. I still have too many unemployed friends to celebrate, but I am allowed to smile and appreciate good news however shallow it is, and I will do so and hope.

Free,
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Thanks for adding me to your list. Keep it simple. We’re all the same you know.

How ’bout Morning Must-Reads but Not Dwell Upon?

Ok I’ll buy that. It is probably all the pent up excitement of the weekend.

“…still having trouble facing the realities of TODAY.”
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The last time there was a presidential candidate for the Communist Party was in 1984.
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So, if you bring up 36.386 on the far left of the United States in 1984, I will remind you of the far right as of 1975.
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You do know that this isn’t 1984, don’t you?

The Republicans hurt every time one thing goes right because they voted against everything.
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That’s still doesn’t prevent them from getting in line to take credit for success.

Freakinpa,
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If you knew Econ 101, you’d know that “the recession is over”is very limited news like, “the patient is no longer bleeding”. Just as it does not mean that the patient is recovering yet, this news does not tell anybody that the economy is recovering – only that the bleeding out of jobs which began under Bush in 2007 is now ended and unlikely to “double dip”.
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It means that the first stimulus stopped the bleeding but was not big enough for a recovery.
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If Republicans win either house, then it is possible we may not recover until 2013 or later.

“Freakinpa’s motto, “Facts? We don’t need no stinkin’ facts!”

Are you arguing he didn’t mispeak?

I’ll drink to that. On second thought that might get me in trouble!
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Over the weekend my buddy had a birthday bash for her husband @ 6:00. I texted her @ 2:30 to ask what he’d like for a gift – he was already drinking! Goes to show what happens when the liquor store opens in the a.m.!

Yes I am going to write my Congressman and have him send “stimulus” money to FL so we can save those police jobs

The Clinton Administration ran budget a surpluses, not a deficit.
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Interest did accumulate, but, it was getting paid off.
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Find me a reliable source which said that he did not run a budget surplus most of his years and a net surplus over eight years.

Avoiding the question again. Stock and trade of the lonney left race bait then accuse the other side.

But please go on and on about your 40 years experience one never tires for a good laugh.

You are a first class as*hole. You don’t even read – well maybe you can’t read. I said (and you quoted) NATIONAL DEBT- not DEFICIT.

You add a whole new level to moron

“And if you don’t think he’s a Muslim why do you even bother arguing about it? Seriously”.

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Seriously, show me one quote from me where I mentioned let alone argue he is a muslim. You are the one who keeps insisting.

Add you , IQ5 and Rev Jim and your combined IQ would not break double digits.

“Proves no such thing. Until recently Climatologists were threatened and abused for any differing opinion. That has changed and the so has the results.”
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First, please explain why these threats were not reported to the police if they were physical threats.
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Second, please show police reports for the abuse that took place.
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Third, you are saying that it is no longer 85% but a lower percent now than it was in March. Show some evidence or STFU.
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Fourth, follow the money. Who gains money from global warming being real? About 50 people tied to Al Gore’s movie. Who loses money if global warming is real – millions of people in the oil business making trillions of dollars. So, the incentive to lie is to lie against climate change, not for it.

“horrible outrage”

That our President a “constitutional scholar” doesn’t know and can’t recite what most 5th graders can without a teleprompter, yes I agree.

Baby you’re a rich man | baby you’re a rich man too

“But 30 years ago people with high but not super-high incomes generally felt ashamed of themselves for griping — or at least, felt that they would be ridiculed if they gave voice to their gripes. Today, all restraints are off. The fuss over Messrs. Henderson and Stein is the exception that proves the rule: they wouldn’t be providing this spectacle if they didn’t normally swim in social circles where complaining that you only have 9 or 10 times median family income is considered totally acceptable.

Pretty soon, we’ll be having serious, completely un-self-conscious discussions in major magazines about the servant problem.”

” Are these the same PhDs that said all of the spending of the Bush Administration which caused deficits were bad but this spending increasing deficits is good?”
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These are the economists who would say spending during recessions is good while spending during boom times is bad.
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By default, they would say that going into debt is acceptable and far better than not spending during recessions while having budget surpluses, as Clinton did, is best.
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These economists would be against going into deficit for things which do not stimulate the economy during recessions which would mean that they would oppose Bush’s deficit spending from 2001 through 2007, but, if he had done anything to create jobs, supported his deficit spending.
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When the economy improves to a steady and sustainable growth rate, they will oppose Obama or any president going into deficit spending.

“The last time there was a presidential candidate for the Communist Party was in 1984″
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I will use small words so that you understand. It is doubtful since you had trouble reading “national debt”.

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Big bureaucratic governments are being cut down because they are inefficient and expensive (cost too much). September 20, 2010

Have mom explain if you can’t read it

“Thanks for adding me to your list.Keep it simple”
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Agreed, I have tried to keep it simple but as you, Rev Jim and IQ5 have shown today even that is well beyond your ability to read and comprehend.

Even if BO “intentionally” left off the phrase regarding our Creator (yes, RustFreep, even of you) how the heck can you prove that he did so on purpose? Other than neoCons like you MSU to fit your talking points?

“It was laws passed under CLinton in the 1990s and enforced by the Clinton DOJ that forced sub-prime mortgages to be made.”
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You might be referring to this”
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“The Community Reinvestment Act (or CRA, Pub.L. 95-128, title VIII of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1977, 91 Stat. 1147, 12 U.S.C. § 2901 et seq.) is a United States federal law designed to encourage commercial banks and savings associations to meet the needs of borrowers in all segments of their communities, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods.[1][2][3] Congress passed the Act in 1977 to reduce discriminatory credit practices against low-income neighborhoods, a practice known as redlining.[4][5]”
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“”In July 1993, President Bill Clinton asked regulators to reform the CRA in order to make examinations more consistent, clarify performance standards, and reduce cost and compliance burden.[55] Robert Rubin, the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy, under President Clinton, explained that this was in line with President Clinton’s strategy to “deal with the problems of the inner city and distressed rural communities”. Discussing the reasons for the Clinton administration’s proposal to strengthen the CRA and further reduce red-lining, Lloyd Bentsen, Secretary of the Treasury at that time, affirmed his belief that availability of credit should not depend on where a person lives, “The only thing that ought to matter on a loan application is whether or not you can pay it back, not where you live.” Bentsen said that the proposed changes would “make it easier for lenders to show how they’re complying with the Community Reinvestment Act”, and “cut back a lot of the paperwork and the cost on small business loans”.[36]”
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This, sir, is race baiting on your part.
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You are, apparently claiming a law forbidding discrimination caused banks to loan money to unqualified minorities.
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If this were the case, banks fearing being charged with racism would only give out loans to minorities who are unqualified but not unqualified whites.
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Not true:
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http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/read.php?16,680734,680738,quote=1
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Even with higher default rates amongst minorities, it is nowhere near 100% of the defaults.
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So, Freakinpa, you can not make up your own facts unless there is an act I have never heard of where somebody put a loaded gun to manager’s heads and made them give out bad loans, lie to investors that they were not being driven under, held at gunpoint not to call their lobbyists, congressmen and Senators they have on speed dial and to hide it from the media for fifteen or so years.

“If you knew Econ 101, you’d know that “the recession is over”is very limited news”
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I suggest you email the White House since they seemed to think it was news today and certainly gumshoe here did too.

The rest is just “no runs, no hits only errors”. We still have 9.&% unemployment with around 478,00 (4 wk average) initial jobless claims weekly.

The stimulus did no such thing since the majority of the stimulus went to keep bloated state local and teachers afloat which added no growth just deficit.
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And the last is just an opinion from a clueless idiot. With that economic knowledge it is no wonder you got thrown out (dropped) out

only that the bleeding out of jobs which began under Bush in 2007 is now ended and unlikely to “double dip”.
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It means that the first stimulus stopped the bleeding but was not big enough for a recovery.
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If Republicans win either house, then it is possible we may not recover until 2013 or later.

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PS Gum- It’s not an agency which would imply government involvement
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Founded in 1920, the National Bureau of Economic Research is a private, nonprofit, nonpartisan research organization dedicated to promoting a greater understanding of how the economy works

Debt = (deficits X years of deficits) – (surplus X year of surplus).
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Have a surplus greater than the interest being paid on the debt and the total debt goes down.
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Learn math.

“Big bureaucratic governments are being cut down because they are inefficient and expensive (cost too much). September 20, 2010.”
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No, the Cuban story is: Having the government create private sector goods and services is as bad as having the private sector do government services – it fails.
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The Russian story: Soviet Era Cronies are more dangerous to Russia’s budget than having Bush crony Michael Brown in charge of FEMA.
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Not all government agencies are similar just as not all businesses are similar.

“Add you , IQ5 and Rev Jim and your combined IQ would not break double digits.”
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Fourth or fifth childish insult today. You’re on a roll. I’m guessing you don’t have much of a point then.

“The stimulus did no such thing since the majority of the stimulus went to keep bloated state local and teachers afloat which added no growth just deficit.”
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Forgetting your opinion of teachers (obviously since so many teacher gave you failing grades year after year) and so on, let me remind you that teachers and administrators do not cash their checks, take the cash and light it on fire. They, also, do not take their money and walk (not buying even gas) to spend all of their money in another country.
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Teachers and government workers = people buying things from private, for profit businesses.
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More customers = improved economy.
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Hence, maintaining or growing the number of government workers during a recession = better economy.

“Fourth or fifth childish insult today. You’re on a roll. I’m guessing you don’t have much of a point then”

Other than being correct on the post and your ability to respond intelligently to it since you seem to read lines that aren’t printed it is less of an insult and more of a reality

“I suggest you email the White House since they seemed to think it was news today and certainly gumshoe here did too.”
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Do you know how to read?
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If your daughter is run over by a car and is admitted to the hospital, when the doctors tell you she stopped bleeding, is that good news?
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Yes.
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But, it does not mean that you can bring your daughter home.
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Hence, it is good news that the recession is over, but, we can’t stop here.

“Agreed, I have tried to keep it simple but as you, Rev Jim and IQ5 have shown today even that is well beyond your ability to read and comprehend.”
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I’m guessing you ran out of a decent arguments well before you even had one. Don’t you get tired of these lame insults?
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Thanks for the laugh anyways.

Think if over, Freakinpa.
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If the DOJ forced banks to make loans to non-whites who never could pay back, then what would happen?
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First, they would contact their lobbyists to prevent this.
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Second, they would sue in court.
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Third, they would call up the congressmen and senators they have on speed dial.
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So, presuming all at once in 1995 all of the lobbyists for the banks and all of their attorneys and the members of the law firms they contract out to along with the senators and congressman they are closely tied to in one moment died (this would have been one damn awful day if tens of thousands of professionals all died at once – it would have been headline news “Everybody tied bank dies!”) what would banks do?
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Well, if the law makes them give out loans to non-whites who could not pay, how many times would they give out loans to whites who could pay?
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Never. Not even $1 would be lent out to whites who could pay back.
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And you say that you have facts?
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Sir, you have crap.

“What would you say if a Republican candidate had given a speech and said “We must guard against change” and “we must turn back the clock”?”
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I don’t know what 53_3 would say, but I would say, “Oh, Damn! Another Tea Party freak running for office again?”

Freakinpa,
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If some government agency in countries very dissimilar to our form of government closes down a state agency is supposed to mean that all government agencies are the same and should close down, then what would have Gus Hall said if one private, for profit business closes down?
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One country closing down one agency does not mean that all government agencies are bad more than one company closing means that all businesses are inefficient and that we need a communist revolution.
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Communism was a moronic economic system. It’s leaders were almost half as misinformed as Tea Party nuts like you.

“First, please explain why these threats were not reported to the police if they were physical threats.”
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I suggest you contact them. It may be the same reason Anita Hill didn;t report her being harassed by Clarence Thomas until years later
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http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/michael_coren/2010/02/12/12859851.html
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http://environment.ncpa.org/commentaries/state-climatologists-attacked-for-global-warming-doubts
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Here is a couple you can start.
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follow the money. Who gains money from global warming being real? About 50 people tied to Al Gore’s movie. Who loses money if global warming is real – millions of people in the oil business making trillions of dollars. So, the incentive to lie is to lie against climate change, not for it.

Yes follow the money. How many companies have sprung up and been given taxpayer money as a result? How much has Algore made (besides from his work of fiction) with global warming all the while having a bigger carbon footprint than the state of Rhode Island. Or Franklin Raines using Fannie Mae resources to buy cap & trade technology. Or he also was a fraud.(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2498020/posts). Government makes money and controls a larger set of everybody’s life.

Who loses money low and middle class people whose energy bills skyrocket and lose their jobs as energy companies are forced out of business.

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A quick search on “Scientific Believers” shows 99% in 2005, “vast majority in 2008, another 75% in 2008. The polls like the climate models follow the old engineering principle SISO- Sh*t in Sh*t out. And one needs to ask why “scientists” would discard alll of the original data. No true scientist ever throws out original data unless its a failed theory.

But keep pushing on that string otherwise you may realize what a failure your belief system is and you might try to hang yourself with it.

“Other than being correct on the post and your ability to respond intelligently to it since you seem to read lines that aren’t printed it is less of an insult and more of a reality”
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I see – you don’t agree with what I write and since you think you’re more right then I am that gives you the right to add a insult every single time?
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Nice moral compass. Thanks for the philosophical lesson
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BTW – that’s not reality – it’s just being in a shallow ditch and @ss. If you’re so insecure about your own opinion that you have bolster it with insults you don’t have much to beginwith.
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So in the interest of ‘truth’. What exactly am I wrong about that made you have this elitist opinion about my less then mature, not fully so smart under 100 IQ must…speak…slowly…to…you opinion?
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That England doesn’t concern us? That the CEO you linked to is somehow ‘liberal’ that you don’t have a lot of facts arguing that Fannie and Freddie caused the majority of the economic crash? That Bush took more vacations than Obama or that we can suspect just how Christian Obama is since he went to the gym on Sunda?. Or that he didn’t include ‘creator’ in of a speach and therefore is….what?
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You claim that you don’t think Obama is Muslim but you add to the conversation about it…adding…how could anyone ever get the idea. Idea of what?
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Sure you can insult my low intelligence some more but it would be interest to know WHAT you think. Instead of the whole dancing around the subject but acting so insulted when someone asks you a direct question.
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I apologize for all the questions but since you’ve questioned my ‘smartness’ I think you at least owe me a possibility to get my wits back since I couldn’t read between your hints, winks and lines.
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I mean – I’m just a dumb ‘librul’ or ‘libtard’ but a curious one.

First, they would contact their lobbyists to prevent this.
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Second, they would sue in court.
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BWAHHAHAAH yeah that’s what would happen just ask any company that was extorted by the Rev Jackson

You are an idiot

“One country closing down one agency does not mean that all government agencies are bad more than one company closing means that all businesses are inefficient and that we need a communist revolution”
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Swing and a miss again Rev Jim

1000,000 in Russia and 500,000 in Cuba is not ONE agency–its across the government. Meaning just as here the concept of big government is inefficient and the poorest allocator of capital

“Don’t you get tired of these lame insults?”
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What I tire of is lame liberal reasoning, false assumptions and the inability to read simple sentences and then be accused of saying something that was never said.

I still await you showing me anywhere that I claimed Obama to be a Muslim. Until then they aren’t lame insults but spot on analysis of your intellectual capacity.

“since the transmission of AIDs which is deadly, expensive to our health care system is caused by primarily 2 causes homosexual sex and drug use. Should we outlaw same sex marriage and criminalize homosexuality and any and all drug users?”
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Only if all of your information is correct and not misleading, which it is not.
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“… homosexual sex and drug use…”
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First, we already have criminalized drug use, so, should we write the same laws a second time?
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Second, it is only intravenous drug use and only when the needles are contaminated. So, in addition to continuing enforcing drug laws, giving clean needles to those who will not obey the drug laws will prevent those who use the clean needles from catching or spreading AIDS.
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Third. it is unprotected sex with multiple partners, somewhat more contagious among homosexuals which transmits aids.
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So, providing condoms to heterosexuals and homosexuals would decrease the spread of AIDS among both populations.
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“…criminalize homosexuality..”
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Outlawing any type of sex is likely to be close to 0% successful. Doing so would be unconstitutional and a waste of time.
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“…outlaw same sex marriage…”
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Marriage decreases promiscuity.
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So, get your evangelical ministers to get gays to promise not to have sex before gay marriage and see if that helps.

Another argument avoiding reality and fact Rev Jim. Sending the “stimulus” to the states did nothing for growth since your beloved underpaid teachers NEVER stopped receiving a check or stopped spending. All it did was put the federal government further in deficit as well as the state.

Adding government workers during a recession raises (permanently) the cost of government at evry level and contributes little compared to the cost since government is the most inefficient way to allocate capital. Or will you be calling for the firing of government workers when the economy recovers.? Hiring non-productive workers at high costs which adds to deficits is better in a recession than letting taxpayers keep more of their own money.

A drop-out til the end Rev Jim

Forgetting your opinion of teachers (obviously since so many teacher gave you failing grades year after year) and so on, let me remind you that teachers and administrators do not cash their checks, take the cash and light it on fire. They, also, do not take their money and walk (not buying even gas) to spend all of their money in another country
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Hence, maintaining or growing the number of government workers during a recession = better economy.

Oh the old 5 year “prove it” defense. Watch the video, he nearly choked on the word!

“BWAHHAHAAH yeah that’s what would happen just ask any company that was extorted by the Rev Jackson

You are an idiot”
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Jessie Jackson is extorting banks for loans for white people?
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Most people under the age of 40 do not know who Jessie Jackson is.
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You have not explained why white people were getting loans they could not pay back.
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Last I checked, Jessie Jackson was still black.

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Every one of it’s founders and board members are paid by companies who would lose money from environmental conservation.
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http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=National_Center_for_Policy_Analysis
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Google again and look for a RELIABLE source of information, not a paid political ad.

Funny how the Teabaggers think that it’s Obama who is infringing on people’s rights. Back when it was actually happening? Nada.

“A report by Inspector General Glenn A. Fine absolved the FBI of the most serious allegation against it: that agents targeted domestic groups based on their exercise of First Amendment rights. Civil liberties groups and congressional Democrats had suggested that the FBI employed such tactics during the George W. Bush administration, which triggered Fine’s review.

But the report cited what it called other ‘troubling’ FBI practices in its monitoring of domestic groups in the years between the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and 2006. In some cases, Fine said, agents began investigations of people affiliated with activist groups for ‘factually weak’ reasons.

In others, the report said, the FBI extended probes ‘without adequate basis’ and improperly kept information about activist groups in its files. Among the groups monitored were the Thomas Merton Center, a Pittsburgh peace group; People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals; and Greenpeace USA. Activists affiliated with Greenpeace were improperly put on a terrorist watch list, the report said.”

“Yes follow the money. How many companies have sprung up and been given taxpayer money as a result? How much has Algore made (besides from his work of fiction) with global warming all the while having a bigger carbon footprint than the state of Rhode Island. Or Franklin Raines using Fannie Mae resources to buy cap & trade technology.”
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“The world’s largest public energy company reported net income of $7.56 billion, or $1.60 a share, in the second quarter, up 91% from $3.95 billion, or 81 cents a share, in the same period in 2009. ”
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http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/29/news/companies/Exxon/index.htm
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Gore is not bringing in $16 Billion dollars per year.
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You’re calling the David the Goliath and the Goliath the David.

“Watch the video, he nearly choked on the word!”
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So, if choking on a word means that you do not believe in what you are saying, this says your buddy must have known he was fooling you.
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Like Bush Sr. and many other public speakers, Obama sometimes pronounces things wrong or trips on his words in an unamusing way.

“Meaning just as here the concept of big government is inefficient and the poorest allocator of capital.’
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1. Cash or goods used to generate income either by investing in a business or a different income property.

2. The net worth of a business; that is, the amount by which its assets exceed its liabilities.

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Then it’s a good thing that our government does not start for profit businesses and does not manage capital.

“1000,000 in Russia and 500,000 in Cuba is not ONE agency–its across the government.
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“NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — The hemorrhaging of American jobs accelerated at a record pace at the end of 2008, bringing the year’s total job losses to 2.6 million or the highest level in more than six decades.”
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http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/09/news/economy/jobs_december/
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Governments in two countries combined lose one and a half million jobs while private, for profit businesses lose two point six million jobs.
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Making deductions as sloppy as yours would, actually, be an argument for communism.
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Sorry, you do not know that you are comparing apples and oranges since you don’t know your ass from your elbow and keep on getting crap in the Swamp.

First, your assessment is an exaggeration. In addition to maintaining jobs, it did hire new people for a duration of time for things like road repair – only fewer than were worked for due to slow local and state governments.
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Second, if these jobs were instead layoffs, then the stores would have had fewer customers, ordered less from supplies and both stores and suppliers would have to have laid off more people.
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“Adding government workers during a recession raises (permanently) the cost of government at evry [sic] level ..”
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Explain this statement. If school district A had 120 teachers, but, due to the recession was going to go down to 109 teachers. Instead, due to federal money, kept all 120 teachers. How does this increase the cost of government.
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“…and contributes little compared to the cost since government is the most inefficient way to allocate capital…”
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First, “Capital” is not the word you are looking for. The word would be “resources”.
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Second, how efficient is a police department compared to a lumberyard? How efficient is a 6th grade class compared to a Burger King? How efficient is an Army brigade compared to Microsoft? How efficient is a fire department compared to a grocery store?
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“..government is the most inefficient way to allocate {resources].” If you repeat it again and again, not only will fools like you believe it makes sense, you will believe that it is inherently true.
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All businesses compared to all government?
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I can show you both private sector waste and public sector waste. However, determining what is wasteful in the public sector is much harder since government agencies do not sell goods and services with a value to be sold on the market.

“No, the Cuban story is: Having the government create private sector goods and services is as bad as having the private sector do government services – it fails”

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You mean like Amtrak, Postal Service and heath care?

re: #4.11 / freeinpa: “I defy you to show me where I said Obama was a Muslim!” / here’s one quote –
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/08/20/are-one-quarter-of-americans-freakin-morons/comment-page-1/#comment-192243

I still await you showing me anywhere that I claimed Obama to be a Muslim.
Remember this?
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/08/20/are-one-quarter-of-americans-freakin-morons/comment-page-1/#comment-192243

“First, your assessment is an exaggeration”
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That’s a weak pitiful lie even for you Rev Jim.
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“Second, if these jobs were instead layoffs, then the stores would have had fewer customers, ordered less from supplies and both stores and suppliers would have to have laid off more people.”

You mean having to face the real world like everybody else instead of a political ally spending taxpayer money to insure re-election. Liberals seem to be the law of economics can be suspended by spending other people’s money.

“First, “Capital” is not the word you are looking for. The word would be “resources”.

No its capital. If I keep my money and invest it somewhere it is my capital. Resources it French for confiscated tax dollars.
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“Second”

How about instead of the red herring of police fire and teachers you use the MMS employees who failed in the Gulf Coast, or Congresswoman’s who uses military assets to fly family friends and aids across country or SEC employees who sit watching porn on the internet or IRS agents who can’t answer taxpayer questions while also not paying their taxes.
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And yes the efficiency of the lumber yard far exceeds these “vital” positions
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“I can show you both private sector waste and public sector waste.”

And businesses work to eliminate (fire) them and it costs the business owner. Government doesn’t fire they add to the inefficiency and charge the taxpayer.

Once again you seem to have trouble distinguishing whose money taxpayer dollars really are. You have nothing but disdain for taxpayers.

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“Jessie Jackson is extorting banks for loans for white people?
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My previous post stands, you are an idiot

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“Most people under the age of 40 do not know who Jessie Jackson is.”

And this means what? That people under the age of 40 known nothing unless its on Jon Stewart? I would agree.

“Only if all of your information is correct and not misleading, which it is not”
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And it is so says the CDC granted not the authority of liberal facts as you Rev Jim but one nonethe less. Makes it inconvenient for your arguments though.

“Sexual risk behaviors, such as unprotected sex with multiple partners, with a partner who also has other sex partners, or with persons at high risk for HIV infection can be common in some communities.”

Here is high risk behavior in the black community, like smoking it is dangerous to more than just the smoker. Let’s outlaw this behavior and criminalize it like is being done to smoking.

Its the leading cause of death in young people and probably one of the most expensive for HC costs. Why should one dangerous behavior be vilified while another gets a free ride. Oh yeah somebody makes a profit doing something legal whiel the other just causes destruction of families and lives. Notice teh CDC doesn’t report

Maybe you want to add to your argument homosexuality doesn’t transmit AIDs a virus does.
The would be perfect logic for you.

“Gay, Bisexual, and Other Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM): By risk group, gay, bisexual, and other MSM of all races remain the population most severely affected by HIV” (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/us.htm)

Great detective work deconstruct but you don’t help hippo who was arguing today I am insisting Obama ius a Muslim now.

No where in the link you attached did I say he is now only that he was before converting to Christianity. That statement is true or once again Obama has lied to the American public, which is entirely possible. However it lays no credence to hiipo rant that I am insisting Obama is a Muslim. Sorry to disappoint you

He was born a Muslim, studied in a Muslin school, then “converted to Christianity” in the church of Rev. Wright>

yes you run to textbooks that you have no understanding of what they mean.

Learn to read. You own source wikipedia shows Clinton increased debt as does the official Treasury reports. I guess they need to learn math from the great drop out Rev Jim.

Horse is dead dismount loser

“So, if choking on a word means that you do not believe in what you are saying, this says your buddy must have known he was fooling you.”
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No according to the looney left they said it meant he was stupid. So by your fine logic, that must mean Obama is stupid.

Again quit while you are behind and not humiliated

See my response in 4.25 to your ham-handed attempt to make a case from nothing. Other than another liberal who is having difficulty reading today

Ah, trying to wiggle out of this by changing the context after the fact? Read 4.23 again. Better yet, read it the first time.

OMG, O’Donnell is a Manchurian candidate.

It is a satire show and she certainly has given every satirist a lot of material to work. This is, of course, after not paying her employees, stealing from her campaign funds to pay her rent (Federal law?), and a host of other financial issues. But she’s a Republicant so I guess her actually performance doesn’t matter.

It’s a proposal. Freeinpa any documentation on how likely the proposal will become law? I propose that the moon is made of cheese.

Having lived in hunting country for a number of years I have eaten a lot of wild game. The people who hunted in my area were not trophy hunters but hunted to provide meat for the table.
The worst wild game I have eaten is bear. Greasy.
Fortunately, I am not confronted with a menu of wild game any longer.

The best wild game is pheasant. Although when my husband would take me road hunting for pheasant as a look out, I would lie and point him in the opposite direction if I saw one.
I also declared quail and dove out of bounds.
My husband only hunted for birds. Big game was given to us by friends.

“I see – you don’t agree with what I write and since you think you’re more right then I am that gives you the right to add a insult every single time?”
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No Freedom of speech gives me that right you know its something that liberals selectively believe in if you happen t agree with them. Or they call you a bigot or racist if you disagree.
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If you’re so insecure about your own opinion that you have bolster it with insults you don’t have much to beginwith.”

You confuse insecurity with my frustration of having to explain what I have said over and over and have that tireless idiot continue to repeat false assertions and then whine about being called stupid.”
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“So in the interest of ‘truth’. What exactly am I wrong about that made you have this elitist opinion about my less then mature, not fully so smart under 100 IQ must…speak…slowly…to…you opinion?”
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This is the perfect example of you not understanding what I wrote. It was double digit IQ (that would be 10) not 100 and that is combined with 2 other bright lights here. And yet you continue to protest that I am insulting you. It also happens to be the truth.
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Step aware from the keyborad.

Nothing annoys me more than the “Halperin’s Take” that the Village idiots dutifully repeat here, as a paen to their Jedi Master Pundit Halperin.
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I, for one, have been waiting to see Halperin “Take” his head out of his own a$$ first.

Freakinpa,
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You didn’t contradict me.
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Gays transmit it to one another at a higher rate, but, if every single gay person vanished from the planet or stopped having sex AIDS would still be here.
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Committed relationships prevent the transmission of AIDS.
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You don’t get AIDS because some gay couple are renting an apartment down the street and having sex with one another.
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As for resuming laws banning homosexuality, J. Edgar Hoover was being blackmailed by gangster Meyer Lansky due to photos Lansky had of Hoover and assistant Clyde Toleson in a compromised position.
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So, contraception and marriage do decrease transmission of AIDS. Laws banning sex cause blackmail.

“It’s a proposal. Freeinpa any documentation on how likely the proposal will become law? I propose the moon is made of cheese.”

Which? your proposal about cheese? Your proposal you figure it out

“Google again and look for a RELIABLE source of information, not a paid political ad.”

Just so I understand your impeccable line of reasoning if you don’t like the source its a paid political ad and if you agree like Media Matters or any of the Soros funded groups that is always referred to as non-partisan groups by the MSM they are ok. So in other words you can’t disapprove what they say and prove what you say, so you attack the source.

Your still a loser Rev Jim

No wiggling needed. Wrote it the first time read it and it stands. You can interpret how you like which is what liberals do.

So in addition to your phenomenal reading skills you are a mind reader. You belong in the liberal circus

First, Freakinpa, if this was racial extortion which forced banks to give loans to people who could not pay them back, then why is there even one white person who was given a loan they could not pay back.
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No reason. You are just brain dead.
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Second, Jessie Jackson has not done anything newsworthy in twenty years.
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Your pathetic story is that big bad Bill Clinton gets the laws changed in a way such that banks will be forced to loose money giving out loans to non-whites.
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So, out of fear of Al Sharpton and his strange hair with a life of it’s own, all – not some, but, all – of the bank presidents in America do not use their lobbyists, attorneys or anybody else, defecate in their pants and hand out loans not only to non-whites, but to whites who can not afford to pay back because from 1995 through 2007 bankers were in such a state of shock and fear that they couldn’t tell who was white and who was non-white and just started tossing money out the window.
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You give morons a bad name.

I missed a real sh!tfest. I was at work. Yeah, I know…liberal…work….I guess all the conservatives b!tching here ALL DAY are going to claim they’re supporting me. Let’s review. I’m at work. They’re here. Who has a job?

The Postal Service?
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You’re calling Ben Franklin a proto-Communist (since the term was invented by Marx sixty years after the US Postal Service was created)?
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You do know that we do not have public health care? The Blue Dog Democrats wouldn’t support the public option.
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Do you predict that the USPS will drag our country into starvation, or are you just trying to do anything not to admit that you have no idea what you are talking about?

“Gore is not bringing in $16 Billion dollars per year”

So what you are saying is the fear mongering and trying to legislate companies out of business (and jobs) isn’t as profitable as running a business, taking risks in those businesses and operating efficiently

Two different methods for gaining wealth. Exxon’ss which is the American way and Algore which is Russians.

Deep down we both know which is better for our country and it ain’t Algore

“You’re calling Ben Franklin a proto-Communist (since the term was invented by Marx sixty years after the US Postal Service was created)?”

You stupidity and ignorance knows no bounds. Since you can’t argue that any of the government entities I named are anywhere close to efficient and should be cut you decide to use the idiot argument of “are you calling Ben F a Marxist”.

You have public supported welfare. I have a luxurious early retirement funded by my work. I am one of those capitalists the left loves to hate but can’t live without. And you left your post here poorly manned by some of the dumbest liberals on record today.

“You mean having to face the real world like everybody else instead of a political ally spending taxpayer money to insure re-election. Liberals seem to be the law of economics can be suspended by spending other people’s money.”
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So, when the federal government takes tax money and pays that taxpayer’s towns teachers, cops and firemen from getting laid off and keeps them all coming into the taxpayers store buying just as much as they used to and, to make up for other jobs lost in the private sector, hires more people for road repair who, also, walk into that same tax payer’s store, this is a “a political ally spending taxpayer money to insure re-election.”
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If so, how do Democrats stop the teachers, cops and new construction workers buying the goods and services you sell or, if you are one step further removed, from the stores teachers, cops, construction workers, etc, shop at from buying things from you?
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The MMS getting high and the SEC watching porn – Brought to you by George W Bush and a Republican Congress.
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“And businesses work to eliminate (fire) them and it costs the business owner.” Bush and Republicans got fired by the voters in 2008 – just like a private company, run government badly and get fired.
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You have several delusions.
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First, if somebody once – like your man, Dubbya – treats government positions like his own personal playground for hiring buddies as incompetent as he is, that the agency should be abolished, not the president replaced by somebody like Obama.
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Second, you do not grasp where customers come from. They do not appear by magic. They have get their money from somewhere, so, if nobody else is hiring, in order to keep your customers coming, we all hire them with tax dollars. Then we all get paychecks and profits.
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Third, your claims about capital means that you believe everybody in the US owns a business so that if you tax anybody that they will have less for running their business. Most people use the stock market, not direct investment and shares of stock are not capital. Shares of stock are personal savings.

“I am one of those capitalists the left loves to hate but can’t live without.”
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I’m sure George Soros will cry if you left the US and gave your tax money elsewhere.
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Before you said that you were a chemical engineer now running a consulting business.
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Now that it failed, you call yourself “retired”.
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I call you “retarded” and a liar.

“Since you can’t argue that any of the government entities I named are anywhere close to efficient and should be cut you decide to use the idiot argument of “are you calling Ben F a Marxist”.”
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I use Netflix.
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It takes 48 hours or less to get a disk. I finish watching a movie Sunday night and put it in the mail Monday, they have it by Wednesday morning and send out a replacement movie which arrives Thursday or Friday.
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If they used Fed Ex, the cost would be about 500% higher for delivery within 24 hours.
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I haven’t used Amtrack since I was in college, but, it is efficient.
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The Long Island Rail Road, owned by the State of New York is within five minutes of schedule something like 95% of the time. Metro North, where a relative comes in from Connecticut has the same Record (run by NY and Connecticut) and have had a relatives using Metro North since 1937 very reliably – basically never late for work. Another relative used New Jersey Transit run by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. It is, also, very efficient.
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So, no, I am saying that with no private trains at all to make a clearer comparison to but comparing it to driving yourself Amtrack, the Long Island Railroad, Metro North and New Jersey transit are all efficient. Amtrack has a better on time record than private, for profit bus services. The post office is extremely cheap and has never once lost anything I have sent in my life.
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Our country would suffer miserably if we had no Postal Service or trains.

Think this over:
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If your business, vehicle or machinery are emitting toxic gases or greenhouse gases down the street from me, even if I am not buying your product nor working for you, I will either become ill from the toxicity or suffer from the weather changes.
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If my girlfriend is loyal to me and I am loyal to her, the gay guys down the street having gay sex are not going to give us AIDS.
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See the difference?

“So what you are saying is the fear mongering and trying to legislate companies out of business (and jobs) isn’t as profitable as running a business, taking risks in those businesses and operating efficiently

Two different methods for gaining wealth. Exxon’ss which is the American way and Algore which is Russians.”
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What?
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The Russians were horrible polluters and ran themselves out of business by having a non-democratic system and, when market forces could be used did not use them.
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“So what you are saying is the fear mongering…”
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Sir, fear mongering is how Sarah Palin and the right wing make money. We had tornado in New York City – right here in Queens (but no impact in my neighborhood). NYC gets tornadoes as often as Florida gets blizzards!
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The tornado was real. The Death Panels are fake.
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“…trying to legislate companies out of business…”
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Requiring companies to change their equipment to ones which release less CO2 or to pay for it through cap and trade and pass the cost onto consumers is not going to cause any well run business under.
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Gore is a resident of the United States. All of his friends and relatives are here. You are saying that Gore quoted people who were at the point of a gun to say what they said so that he could make the lives of all of his friends and family miserable?
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Just because you enjoy making as many people miserable as possible does not mean that Gore does, too.
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How do ads get purchased?
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Magic?
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No, with money.
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So, if Exxon-Mobil has sixteen billion to spend and environmentalists have sixteen million to spend, who is getting in your face more?
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Exxon Mobil.
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Who can afford to pay off a few scientists here and there, Al Gore or Exxon Mobil?
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Exxon-Mobil.
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But you still insist that poor Exxon is being picked on by people who want to lose their jobs, want their friends and relatives to lose their jobs and suffer in poverty rather than businesses turn a blind eye to reality and pay off a small number of scientists to do their dirty work.
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Regarding the quality of your link, so long as the information is true, it is obvious that all of the management of that think tank would be rip roaring furious if they didn’t find an excuse to believe that there is a reason to doubt climate change.

“No according to the looney left they said it meant he was stupid. So by your fine logic, that must mean Obama is stupid.”
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No, George W Bush made me laugh as did a gaff by Joe Biden and many by Dan Quayle.
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The tripping over words by George Bush Sr. and President Obama is not either funny nor meaningful.
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In other words, you’ve wasted our time, again.

You know, sometimes I think it is lame to spend as much times as I do with virtual friends online.

Then I think of the wingnut trolls who spend more time than I do angry with virtual enemies.

Then I don’t feel so bad about not finishing cleaning my apartment today.

“Halperin says she’s playing chess”
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Jesus nfl, one more line like that and he’ll have to give back his “Pull It’s Her”.
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freeinpa, all the republican members of the house, senate, Supreme Court, presidents and the military get their retirement from the same place I do. The democratic members do too, but the republicans are getting their “public supported welfare” like I will. I’m still working though. I had to work outside when I got home from work. The weather is just beautiful here right now. 70 and partly cloudy. I’m so glad summer is over.

Rev Jim bitter til the end. I was a chemical engineer for 5 years doing synthetic fuels research. I left when oil hit the top in the early 80s and went into the investment business. Sold 2 successful investment firms over the course of 17 years that I was a part owner in and went into the consulting business. Which is essentially saying I am retired and I take jobs in locals I want for people I like doing things I like. Of course that pales to your spectacular life as an abysmal failure at everything you have attempted.
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You have nothing but baseless accusations bolstered by bitterness and envy at being a failure and being dumber than a brick while the American dream lives on despite your ignorance.

Sorry, sacredh I believe that outside of the military, I believe that house, senate, Supreme Court, presidents should be paid as little as possible with as little as possible benefits.
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Back to the citizen legislator and away with the professional politician.

I am glad summer is over too. It a little cooler here about mid-60s but beautiful

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First, if somebody once – like your man, Dubbya – treats government positions like his own personal playground for hiring buddies”
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Or Obambi and his socialist czars. The rest of your first point no doubt made sense to the voices in your head but nowhere else.

“Second, you do not grasp where customers come from. They do not appear by magic”
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Nor by government fiat with the possible exception of HC.
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“Most people use the stock market, not direct investment and shares of stock are not capital.”

It seems accounting convention would disagree. Try and read a balance sheet of any public company under Shareholders equity and the listing of capital stock.

“It takes 48 hours or less to get a disk. I finish watching a movie Sunday night and put it in the mail Monday, they have it by Wednesday morning and send out a replacement movie which arrives Thursday or Friday.”
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This explains a lot about you. It seems you spend your life no doubt in a tin-foiled hat watching movies in your basement.

If I want to see a movie I use comcast and I can watch it anytime and recall it anytime and I don’t need t mail it.
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“If they used Fed Ex, the cost would be about 500% higher for delivery within 24 hours”

This just confirms how sad your life is.
.”I haven’t used Amtrack since I was in college, but, it is efficient.”

Yes if you consider being Billions of dollars in the deficit to be efficient but liberals do.

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And the PO never lost anything for you. Well good for you! Post Office efficiency party of 1 and more billions in the red.
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They’d have to vote to cut their retirement if they cut mine, so I feel pretty safe. In 3 and 1/2 years I can retire at 80% of basic pay (no shift differential, holiday pay or sunday pay included). I turned down a higher paying job in the private sector when I first started to go for job security. It’s probably the second smartest thing I’ve ever done.

I missed this too. Normally I check the counter to see where all the action is, missed it this time, although I usually just read on these.
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But, I have to offer this from the Capitalist That We Can’t Live Without: “You have nothing but baseless accusations bolstered by bitterness and envy at being a failure and being dumber than a brick while the American dream lives on despite your ignorance.”
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Nobody diagramed that sentence? Sister Most Precious Blood would be disappointed.

“This explains a lot about you. It seems you spend your life no doubt in a tin-foiled hat watching movies in your basement.”
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I have no idea what a tin foil hat is supposed to mean, but, two room apartments in NYC do not have basements.
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When I am not working, netflix, also, has movies on demand if I like anything on their list.
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I spend most of my time working from home, then meetings with clients (read small business owners) and spend a small amount of my time watching movies at TV through Netflix.
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Pardon me for jumping in so late, but…
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For a more balanced view of the proposal, see:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39265847/UK_Proposes_All_Paychecks_Go_to_the_State_First

It includes pro & con quotes.

I shouldn’t have to point out that this comes from a Conservative Party government, right, the one that beat the “socialist” Labor Party in the last election?

“It seems accounting convention would disagree. Try and read a balance sheet of any public company under Shareholders equity and the listing of capital stock.”
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Economics is to accounting what chess is to playing Simon Says.
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When one owns, say, a restaurant and buys a second oven. That is capital. It requires an additional worker to work at it.
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If you buy stock in McDonalds, you are handing money from yourself to the previous owner of the stock – a lateral wealth transfer.
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I have an accountant do my taxes since taxes are about accounting and not at all about economics and economics is not about accounting or filling out tax forms.

“…bitter til the end.”
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You’ve got to be kidding?
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I am one of the last people any sane person would call “bitter”.
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I am, also, one of the last people any sane person would call a failure.
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But, I’ve already ruled out the possibility of you being sane.

foghorn:
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Nostalgia strikes again between bouts of laughter. Something tells me he is a better shot that Elmer Fudd.
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I guess we do things differently in our corner of the country. We have a lot of elk up here which doesn’t taste all that great. And they are big, weighing between 300lb for your average doe to over 1,000lb for a big buck. Hitting ‘em with a car, or even an F150 is going to do a lot of damage.
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We usually see one or two meet that fate on the hill up to here.
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apr’s right.
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Pheasant is the best…

” They do not appear by magic”
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Nor by government fiat.”
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Only in your warped mind would a paycheck for a police officer, fire fighter or, as a part of the stimulus package, somebody hired to fix the road choosing to make a purchase be called a “government fiat” to spend money.

Speaking of jobs, I’ve been too busy coding to keep freeinpa happy with suitable spankings.
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Even now, he’s just trying to get a rise out of anyone he can since he’s avoided some of my more lavish attention for a while.
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Seeing freeinpa online is like waking in the morning, having a big breakfast pang for some cinnamon raisin bread for French toast, and finding it covered with furry green mold…

Oh. And that feeling is not engendered by freeinpa’s questionable pedigree as a chemical engineer and a retired captain of industry…

“Seeing freeinpa online is like waking in the morning, having a big breakfast pang for some cinnamon raisin bread for French toast, and finding it covered with furry green mold…”
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LOL!
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My thoughts exactly!
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” Oh. And that feeling is not engendered by freeinpa’s questionable pedigree as a chemical engineer and a retired captain of industry…”
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My late father was a Naval Architect/Marine engineer who is going to have a ship model cutter at his Alma Matter next weekend and if I had to use one word to describe both him and many engineers I had met over the years, that word is “Cautious”. With exceptions, of course, nearly all engineers I have met, if asked a question would far rather not have an answer than give the wrong answer.
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If Freakinpa got paid for right answers, he would be sleeping on the sidewalk and begging for change.

“Sister Most Precious Blood would be disappointed.”
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Not if she had to put up with twiddle dee and dweedle dumb the wonder dummies (Rev Jim & IQ5) she would fully understand
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“I am, also, one of the last people any sane person would call a failure”

Only in your own little world Rev Jim But then in that one you are a master of economics and an encyclopedia of history. But in the real world you are a drop out who has trouble understanding the difference between debt and deficit even ass you quote form a book and toss out dates of events gone by that are as irrelevant as you.
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“to keep freeinpa happy with suitable spankings.”

Yes but your delusions are intact you can ramble on declare your own facts declare yourself victorious then take a victory lap while self congratulating yourself. Take note your meds with be here shrotly.

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“My late father was a Naval Architect/Marine engineer who is going to have a ship model cutter at his Alma Matter next weekend”

So they only allow him to play with models? Do you get to visit him on weekends? Does he get mad when you eat his paste?

Exactly what is an Alma Matter? Oh that’s Harvard you were then and it doesn’t matter—you are still an idiot.
By the way is this the same engineering and science parents who lavished with you a middle class upbringing? Making them the dumbest engineer and science people I have ever heard. Although it does explain your stupidity.

Now you and IQ5 and share your meds, put your tin-foil hats and satisfying each other in whatever planet you both live where you think you are relevant to anything.

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“Requiring companies to change their equipment to ones which release less CO2 or to pay for it through cap and trade and pass the cost onto consumers is not going to cause any well run business under.”

Case in point: Years & years ago, I lived in a town in Pennsylvania, next to a major river. Across the river was a huge U.S. Steel mill, which made steel. In the process, it produced “waste” byproducts, which it piped into the air through huge smokestacks, and pumped into the river.

After the environment got so bad that a number of people upriver were killed by the poisonous air trapped above their town by an inversion, from another mill, and swimmers suffered skin disease from the poisoned river water, the state passed environmental cleanup laws. U.S. Steel & the other polluters fought any and all regulation, arguing that it would be bad for business.

The corporations lost, and the laws went into effect. U.S. Steel could no longer just dump all the plant’s garbage into the air & water, so they invested in “stack scrubbers” and water treatment facilities.

The air got cleaner, it didn’t stink any more, and there was a lot less dirt sifting into houses & lungs. The river got cleaner, and freshwater fish that hadn’t lived in it for generations showed up, and multiplied; my town & others along the river started getting new business from visitors coming for the new improved fishing and boating. The town built a boat club & ramps, and they hold a river festival every year.

As for the steel mill across the river, U.S. Steel found a use for all the byproducts they had been throwing away: they built a profitable chemical plant to use it up, and sold the reslting “merchandise” to other businesses.

“You know, sometimes I think it is lame to spend as much times as I do with virtual friends online”
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Besides the voices in your head they are the only ones you have.

“Gays transmit it to one another at a higher rate, but, if every single gay person vanished from the planet or stopped having sex AIDS would still be here”
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Irrelevant to the argument but then you are irrelevant. Its risky behavior that you insist should be stopped. Oh right only certain risky behavior. I can’t keep your hypocrisy straight. (no pun intended)

The rest of your arguments are just as looney and hypocritical. Same behavior but you favor one over the other. At least you are consistent at something — being an illogical fool.

“So they only allow him to play with models? Do you get to visit him on weekends?”
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When I said “my late father” did you believe that I meant he is alive but lacks promptness? He died in January of 2009. He was 76 years old.
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“Exactly what is an Alma Matter?”
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Webb Institute. Since Harvard has very little in terms of sciences, it can not easily be compared, but, for the one and only major they have Naval Architecture/ Marine Engineering, it outranks MIT.
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If you knew your ass from your elbow, you would know that after going through the calculus followed by computer simulation, a scale model of ships is placed into a pool to be tested for buoyancy and simulated waves before the actual designed is sent out to be built.
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http://www.webb-institute.edu/
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Webb Tuition now: a fee for housing.
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Webb Tuition when my father attended: $0 – even the laundry was done for them.
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http://www.webb-institute.edu/fwevents.html

“Besides the voices in your head they are the only ones you have.”
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Freakinpa,
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Every single day I see your insane rants online, I have a new insult for you.
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Coming up with something other than the same insult for every liberal is just not up to par.
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The least you could do is come up with a new and creative insult every day as I do for you.
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Get with program!

“Second, Jessie Jackson has not done anything newsworthy in twenty years.”

Yes he was Bill Clinton spiritual adviser after Monica. Right before he fathered a son with someone in the Rainbow Coalition that he was paying off with donor funds.

and he had these kind words for Obama

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“See, Barack been, um, talking down to black people on this faith based … I want cut his n–s off … Barack … he’s talking down to black people.

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“Your pathetic story is that big bad Bill Clinton gets the laws changed in a way such that banks will be forced to loose money giving out loans to non-whites”
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Was and is. The former CFO of Fannie has written about it. Just because you don;t like it doesn’t make it untrue. Just confirms your racial bias and hate for American business. When you threaten banks with the DOJ to make loans they known can’t be paid there is no other explanation.

“The tripping over words by George Bush Sr. and President Obama is not either funny nor meaningful”
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So deems the Rev Jim so it must be.

“When one owns, say, a restaurant and buys a second oven. That is capital. It requires an additional worker to work at it.”

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I have 2 ovens I must own a restaurant. And only a liberal would think you need to hire a second person to turn on one oven.

Your economics suck and does your ability to run a business. No wonder you think the Post Office and Amtrak running billions of dollars in the red is efficient. But that’s accounting isn’t it But then the economics of each doesn;t work each. Opps no don’t know sh*t about either.

” Its risky behavior that you insist should be stopped. Oh right only certain risky behavior.”
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Yes, that behavior is called unprotected sex with an infected person who is most likely to be a stranger.
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People inhale air in public.
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Besides you, people have sex in private.
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I can, accidentally, inhale polluted air.
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I can not accidentally have gay sex.
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Obviously you don’t understand this due to your very promiscuous homosexuality with your S&M fetishes.

“The former CFO of Fannie has written about it.”
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Please send a link to the part where Jessie Jackson coerced him into giving loans to unqualified white people or just stop being ridiculous.

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When I said “my late father” did you believe that I meant he is alive but lacks promptness? He died in January of 2009. He was 76 years old.”
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No I meant that you live in a delusional world and probably have seances.

And Webb Institute is not an Alma Matter it may be an Alma Mater. Speaking of not knowing your arse from your elbow.

By all means tell me what wonderful things your father did and how brilliant, it just makes you look all the dumber.

A disappointment to him and a burden to society.

See the difference Rev Jim is you make crap up. I speak the truth. There is no need to change.

” When you threaten banks with the DOJ to make loans they known can’t be paid there is no other explanation.”
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Please link to the other part, in addition to where it says that banks, for racial equality, must give loans to unqualified white people that they must, also, drop their standards dramatically below what they were.
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If any bank had even one attorney on their staff, they would know that the DOJ was requiring that all loans to minorities must be identical to all loans to whites and in no way mandated that they should drive themselves out of business.

“I have 2 ovens I must own a restaurant. And only a liberal would think you need to hire a second person to turn on one oven.”
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One of the ovens if for your wife to stick her head in and the other one is for your daughter to stick her head into after dealing with you all day.
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If you own a restaurant the one and only reason you would purchase a second, identical oven to keep without removing the first one is to double the amount of cooking done. Hence, a second person would be hired.
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A pickup truck owned by a landscaping company used to transport lawnmowers, leaf blowers and the like is capital, but, if owned by a household, it is a consumer product.

“A disappointment to him and a burden to society.”
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My father and I were on good terms when he died.
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“…probably have seances…”
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Atheists do not have seances.
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He was a typical engineer, very soft spoken. If somebody doesn’t have much to say when they are alive, then after they die, they must be really uninteresting to talk to.

“So deems the Rev Jim so it must be.”
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If Obama and Bush Sr mispronouncing things is so hilarious, then why aren’t/weren’t comics making jokes about them?
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As for meaningful, if having trouble saying the word “creator” means that this man who the far right considers either a devout extremist secret Muslim or a devout secret radical Christian is, secretly an atheist. But, like most of what you say, it makes no sense.
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If mispronouncing things means you are lying, George W Bush and Dan Quayle never told the truth.
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If it means nothing, then it follows that you are an idiot grasping at straws.

“Same behavior but you favor one over the other.”
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Behavior I favor is that every man fall passionate and devoutly in love with a woman and every woman fall devoutly and passionately in love with the same man who loves her and both act accordingly.
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For gay people, then, I would advocate that that the, also, fall devoutly and passionately in love and act accordingly in monogamy.
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Since nobody has figured out how to make everybody fall in love with one another, it looks like the government can not do anything at all even vaguely productive other than distribute condoms and clean needles to make risky behavior no longer dangerous.

“See the difference Rev Jim is you make crap up. I speak the truth.”
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LOL!
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You are so good at finding links outside of the far right wing extremist groups to prove your point, too!
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LOL!
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You have such clear logical deductions that nobody can refute you!
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LOL!
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You are so deluded that you belong in a mental institution. If you really believe that you are using the clearest, least biased information, I really believe, in all seriousness, that you need psychiatric help.

freeinpa (or so you think)
an engineer financial consultant retired in luxury… so sweet

Perhaps you earned your money, but I doubt it.

The teabags make vague pronouncements about values, getting America “back to God”, blah, blah, blah. They are starting to believe their own script.

Justice Thomas’s wife appeared on a fringe teabag gathering wearing a “statue of liberty” hat to show she was for liberty and all that. Its a shame she never read the lines associated with the statue (a gift from France) that invited the poor yearning to breathe free.

Freeinpa,

Since you neither have knowledge of the sciences nor have faith in the sciences and are the antithesis of how engineers are famously cautious with what they say and completely unlike executives I meet (who, in a word I would describe as “diplomatic”) do not know the basics of business to do any consulting, my best guess is that you are a retired prison guard from York Country Prison.

I knew one former prison guard and you remind me of him – incredibly cynical, untrusting and a know it all.

Tell me if I am right.