Morning Must Reads: Rollout

The column, who’s running for the Democratic nomination of building support, refuses to be seen with the president.

OBAMA : “Can’t the Secret Service get the Republicans to hold their fire until I make it to the lectern?”

“…P[rissy], who has not sat for media interviews on her political travels this year, has no plans to take questions from any of the press covering the dinner, or even meet privately with party leaders, candidates or top donors before the event. P[rissy] is expected to depart Iowa immediately afterward.”
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In related news, Bob Barker has given up on spaying cats.

(cue Hitchcock music…)
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“Good EEEEVVVENing.”

I remember the music and that black and white profile on the big old console TV.
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It was a beautiful piece of furniture…

When TVs were part of the furniture. Good times.

Liberals break down in tears of betrayal when President Obama when he re-appears still dressed in his suit rather than in his Superman outfit.

agent, off to left of screen, behind plexiglass screen
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Mr. President, I’d stay there for a minute.
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POTUS
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Why?
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Because, unlike you, these guys can throw
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POTUS
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sigh
And I thought winning in 2008 was hard…

Lest we forget…….

But the gap between the threshold level of acceptability between the party and its activist base is wider than the gap between Democrats and the Netroots ever was….

What did I miss?

GOPers erecting facade of maturity and responsible behavior just in time for election season*.

“House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) rejected the idea that Republicans will shut down the government if they come to a legislative impasse with President Barack Obama, even as some conservative activists have predicted and even pushed a shutdown next year.

Republicans like Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) and Alaska Senate candidate Joe Miller have said recently that Republicans will shut down the government if they can’t agree with Obama on spending bills.”

(*straight media buys into sudden change of heart)

Counting our chickens, aren’t we?

Curb your enthusiasm.

“One after another, respectfully but firmly, they asked a series of tough questions, and refused to be filibustered by yet another stream of administration-enhancing data. Here’s what they wanted to know: if the administration was serious about spreading the word on renewable energy, why wouldn’t it do the obvious thing and put solar panels on the White House? When the administrators proudly proffered a clipping from some interior page of the Washington Post about their ‘greening the government initiative,’ Amanda calmly pointed out that none of her neighbors read the Post, and that, by contrast, the solar panels had made it onto David Letterman.

To their queries, the bureaucrats refused to provide any answer. At all. One kept smiling in an odd way and saying, ‘If reporters call and ask us, we will provide our rationale,’ but whatever it was, they wouldn’t provide it to us.

It was all a little odd, to say the least. They refused to accept the Carter panel as a historic relic, or even to pose for a picture with the students and the petition they’d brought with them. Asked to do something easy and symbolic to rekindle a little of the joy that had turned out so many of us as volunteers for Obama in 2008, they point blank said no. In a less than overwhelming gesture, they did, however, pass out Xeroxed copies of a 2009 memorandum from Vice President Biden about federal energy policy.”

More like, “I’ve seen this movie before.”

“It’s Demand, Stupid”

“…if you ask businesses — as opposed to their lobbyists — what their problem is, you find no hint of the stories the usual suspects are telling you about government interference, political uncertainty, etc.. Businesses aren’t hiring because of poor sales, period, end of story[...]

And the best thing government could do to help business would be to spend more, increasing demand. The fact that it’s not going to happen doesn’t change the fact that it’s the simple truth.”

Gotta be an outlier, considering what all the heads on the teevee keep saying.

“Voters, by a 9-point margin, believe Republicans will pick up both the House and the Senate, even though they are evenly divided over whom they intend to back in six weeks, according to a new POLITICO/George Washington University Battleground Poll.

In a generic matchup between the two parties, those surveyed were split 43-43 when asked if they would back a Republican or a Democrat on Election Day. This is good news for Democrats and at odds with many other public polls, which have shown Republicans holding a single-digit edge.”

“The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office recently forecast that a similar, slightly more expensive package that includes a full repeal of the estate tax would force the nation to borrow an additional $3.9 trillion over the next decade and increase interest payments on the national debt by $950 billion. That’s more than four times the projected deficit impact of President Obama’s health-care overhaul and stimulus package combined.”
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Hey Tea Partiers! Remember when the GOP told you they were fiscally responsible? That they want to reduce the deficit?
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Yeah. They lied to you.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/14/AR2010091406838.html

Who runs government?
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http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/republicans-are-holding-the-federal-courts-hostage/1121786

Yep. The villian always gets it in the end. Unfortunately, guys like Mark Foley might like that.

Taking a more active role in the electoral process.

“Fox News’ decision to sue a Democratic candidate over her campaign’s use of footage first aired on the network in an ad is an apparent escalation of such fair use battles — bringing disputes between media companies and campaigns from YouTube to the courtroom.

The suit the network filed against the campaign of Robin Carnahan, a Democrat challenging Rep. Roy Blunt (R) for a Senate seat in Missouri, appears to be the first time such a fair use fight between a media company and a political campaign has been taken to court. It is much more common for media companies to flag the videos to YouTube and assert their copyright.

‘This is the only case that I know of where a broadcast news organization has sued a political campaign over use of news footage in an ad,’ Ben Sheffner, a lawyer who specializes in copyright issues and writes the Copyrights & Campaigns blog, told TPM. ‘There’s been a number of disputes over this issue, but they never got to a court case, that I’m aware.’

Fox News said in a statement to TPM that they filed the suit to protect the journalistic integrity of their host.”

Gallup showed the same trend last week…underscoring my belief that there’s a difference between a generic “which party do you support?” poll and a “which candidate do you back?” one.

“F[l]ox… said in a statement to TPM that they filed the suit to protect the journalistic integrity of their host.”
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If so, then they’ve also filed for bankruptcy.

“And the best thing government could do to help business would be to spend more”
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That is making a bold and unsupported assumption the government has a clue as to how to spend it. The data is showing that “stimulus” is French for paying off political allies.

Listed by the Obama WH is one stimulus project in NJ saved or created (and these are probably a stretch) 68 jobs for a nce sum of about $441,000/job.

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City of LA reports stimulus jobs cost about $2 million per job.

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Seems the new “small business stimulus” is probably good for 5-6 jobs

It seems the warmest year on record didn’t have the desired affect global warning (or is it climate disruption now) enthusiasts had hoped. The Artic didn’t melt down to the 2007 minimum. I guess the Artic just has no respect for computer models

But computer models projecting a disappearance very soon – 2013 was a date cited by one research group just a few years ago – seem to have been too extreme.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11322310

I wonder how many MSM media outlets in the US will report this?

“What did I miss?”

“Do you know, where does this phrase separation of Church and State come from? Does anybody know? … Actually, that’s exactly, it was not in Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists. He was reassuring that the federal government wouldn’t trample on their religion. The exact phrase ‘separation of Church and State’ came out of Adolph Hitler’s mouth, that’s where it comes from. Next time your liberal friends talk about the separation of Church and State ask them why they’re Nazis.”

If you thought Christine O’Donnell was bad…

Poverty numbers from the Census.

“About 44 million Americans – one in seven – lived last year in homes in which the income was below the poverty level, which is about $22,000 for a family of four. That is the largest number of people since the census began tracking poverty 51 years ago.

The snapshot captured by the census for 2009, the first year of the Obama presidency, shows an America in the throes of economic upheaval.

Since 2007, the year before the recession kicked into gear, the country has almost 4 million fewer wage-earners. There are more children growing up poor. And for the first time since the government began tracking health insurance in 1987, the number of people who have health coverage declined, as people lost jobs with health benefits or employers stopped offering it.

With midterm elections less than two months away, the statistics bare the reality fueling much of the anger toward Washington.”

How much will the new HC bill cost? That is spending. Repeal of estate tax is letting people keep their money. It is not spending.

The simplest concepts evade the cunning liberal mind

Yeah, I kinda got a chuckle out of that line too.

You’re woefully uninformed as usual, freeper.
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[We couldn't find a Northwest Passage, so we're making one instead].
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(start at around the 4 min mark if you don’t want to see the whole thing)

“500 words” –
Obama is so powerful he can literally walk through walls
…and columns.

The candidate IS NOT one in the same.

freeinpa: Are you saying that repeal would not raise the debt, or that it’s OK if the debt goes up?

From the article:

“2010′s summer Arctic ice minimum is the third smallest in the satellite era.” …”In terms of the longer-term picture, Dr Meier said the 2010 NSIDC figures tally with the idea of a gradual decline in summer Arctic ice cover.”

And with graphs:

Strange summer melt leaves Arctic ice near record low

“With the exception of 2006, every year since 2005 has seen at least two standard deviations below the pre-2000 average. They also provide readings from the same month from over the past 30 years, which also makes a declining trend clear.”

But don’t let facts get in your way.

Yes, it’s the left’s fault that negotiations started from the centrist position and compromised further towards the right.

“As to the notion that Democrats “refused to compromise,” it’s an impressive feat to say that with a straight face, even for Dillon. Cap-and-trade began its life as a compromise, a conservative answer to liberal environmental regulations, originally passed by Bush Sr. This whole latest mishegas kicked off with an enormous compromise in the House: Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) started with what Joe Romm once called ‘the weak, coal-friendly, rip-offset-heavy USCAP climate plan,’ developed by centrist green groups and big corporations. Grassroots greens felt burned from day one and from that point on it was one compromise after another — more coal subsidies, more free permits for polluters, softer regulatory oversight for Big Ag, on and on.

After it squeaked through the House it went to the Senate, where were still more compromises — huge subsidies for nukes, expanded offshore drilling, even an offer to shrink the cap-and-trade system down to electric utilities. This was John Kerry’s war cry: ‘We believe we have compromised significantly, and we’re prepared to compromise further.’

Reid was clear by the end that he’d give just about anything. What did it get him? Not a solitary Republican vote, not a word of support. Murkowski and Dillon were lying about the bill right up until the day it died. They still are.”

Also the animation in the BBC article that shows the extent of the artic melt-off since 1999 is worth viewing. So, thanks for posting the link, even though it shows the opposite of what you’re claiming.

Any wonder the Press is looked down on?

Is Sarah Palin the next Barack Obama?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39230166/ns/politics-politics_daily/

I think climate change is an area where it’s all kabuki. We know the GOP doesn’t believe in science, but I think the Democratic party establishment also wants the status quo. So both sides go into the debate determined to do nothing. They posture for awhile and then go home.
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Of course they’ll all wake up in about 10-15 years and wonder why nobody did anything. /shrug/

–Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, in what certainly sounds like a step beyond satire, announce plans for a “restoring sanity” rally in D.C. on October 30.

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Stewart and Colbert are missing out on a golden opportunity here to have their rally in San Francisco instead of Washington DC. They could coordinate it with all the rest of the Dead-heads and have one big massive smoke-in. Kinda like “Restore the Good ‘ol Dope Head Times” of the 1960′s.
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It might even boost up sales of Mary Jane and get California out of the hole its in right now financially.

Even NPR was listing the three major sub-catagories of Republican candidates; establishment, Tea Party, and Sarah Palin picks.
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Flip a coin and become a world leader. I’ve spilled milk that was deeper than the intellect of the press.

Delving into the Maxine Waters – OneUnited bank controversy.

“OneUnited’s review was ‘contrary to the way that banks are typically analyzed pursuant to the Treasury guidance,’ Barofsky wrote, signaling ‘greater flexibility used in approving that application than accorded other applicants for TARP funds.’ He nonetheless concluded that “it does not appear” that the money was granted as the result of external influence, but because of three ‘mitigating factors’ cited by the reviewers: the bank’s plan to raise new private capital, its promise to fulfill the FDIC’s cease-and-desist demands, and the legislative provision Frank added.

Jon T. Rymer, the FDIC’s inspector general, concluded after looking into the FDIC’s actions last year that “we found no improper political influence nor improper internal influences,” he said in an interview.

He said his investigators did not speak directly with board members or review all of their correspondence and logs, but their deputies confirmed that the members knew that Waters’s husband had served on OneUnited’s board. Rymer said he was unaware, until being told by a reporter, of Thompson’s statement that FDIC officials routinely flagged any bank connections to prominent people such as Waters.

‘That causes me some concern,” Rymer said. ‘If there is such a system, I need to know about it and how it’s being used.’”

Mr. Barker is now concentrating his efforts on spaying and neutering humans.

A tiny bit of dessert today…

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So, Freeinpa, if it were spent to the tune of $40k-$60k per job, you would be standing behind the president cheering, right?
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Yeah, right.
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First, I would wan to see a link to your claims and, second, I would like to know what proportion of the stimulus package has such issues.

Except I am not a house you frigging degenerate!
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/huckabee-opposes-insurance-for-people-with-pre-existing-conditions.php.

When Republicans attack health care reform, Democrats like to counter by accusing Republicans of wanting to repeal a law that requires insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions. According to Republican Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, that’s exactly right. People with pre-existing conditions, he explains are like houses that have already burned down.

“It sounds so good, and it’s such a warm message to say we’re not gonna deny anyone from a preexisting condition,” Huckabee explained at the Value Voters Summit today. “Look, I think that sounds terrific, but I want to ask you something from a common sense perspective. Suppose we applied that principle [to] our property insurance. And you can call your insurance agent and say, “I’d like to buy some insurance for my house.” He’d say, “Tell me about your house.” “Well sir, it burned down yesterday, but I’d like to insure it today.” And he’ll say “I’m sorry, but we can’t insure it after it’s already burned.” Well, no preexisting conditions.”

“Voters, by a 9-point margin, believe Republicans will pick up both the House and the Senate…”
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What a ridiculous question to ask unless the goal was to dispel the “liberal bias” of the mainstream media..
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This tells us the public has seen and accepted at face value that this will be a sweep for a Republicans and nothing more.
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Candidate by candidate polls show that it is going to be a paper thin majority for either side – but unclear who.
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http://www.electionprojection.com/index.php

“freeinpa: Are you saying that repeal would not raise the debt, or that it’s OK if the debt goes up?”
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I always wondered what would happen if you asked a simple either/or question regarding budget to a far right ideologue such as “are deficits worst than tax increases or are tax increases worse than deficits”.
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The response: does not compute.
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How about cutting military expenditures to either reduce the deficit or reduce taxes?
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There are not right wing talking points to answer those questions.

“The Protestant Reich Church, officially German Evangelical Church (German: Deutsche Evangelische Kirche) and colloquially Reichskirche, was formed in 1933 to merge the 28 regional churches into a unified state church that espoused a single doctrine compatible with National Socialism.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reich_Church
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Hitler did not support separation of church and state. He was very against the separation of church and state, but, that crazy stuff known as “reality” seems to get in the way of so many great Republican speeches.

Interesting concept as long as you neglect how Palin and Obama reacted to fame in exactly the opposite way and how the attention was for the opposite reason.;
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Obama, used fame of 2004 speech to become US Senator.
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Palin, in reacting to her infamy as the gaff prone VP candidate, resigned from being governor of Alaska.
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Obama 2004 to 2006 going up from state senator followed by the 2008 election.
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Palin, going from VP candidate, to governor, to not governor (who knows what to call her profession now) is well on the trajectory to going back to announcing sports in rural Alaska.

” They could coordinate it with all the rest of the Dead-heads and have one big massive smoke-in. Kinda like “Restore the Good ‘ol Dope Head Times” of the 1960′s.”
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“New National Poll on Grateful Dead: Even Republicans Like Them

The results of a recent Mark Mellman survey on public attitudes surrounding the Grateful Dead — where even Republicans give the band a higher favorable than unfavorable rating — was reported today on Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller website. Tucker saw a bunch of shows”
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http://strategicmedia.net/blog/?p=253
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Lead vocalist Jerry Garcia was registered as Republican, Newfreakenblog.
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Personally, I never liked the Grateful Dead at all.
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Weezer is a little bit more my style.

Huckabee’s response was typical of the right wing, so-called compassionate conservatives — I’ve got mine so screw ‘em. So much for his “Christian” values too. I’d like to see him campaign on this message. I’m sure it would be a real winner among the bootstrap crowd, but maybe not so well with the rest of America.

WDIM?
Last week’s toast of NY, “Pastor” Jones, wants to move his church to a “more urban” location. If he moves in next door to Coach Meyer, it’s on!
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Thanks, that was fun.

Huckabee, the great Christianist spokesperson.
By his logic, if I have a claim on my car insurance, I should never be allowed to have auto insurance again and never be allowed to drive.
Anyone who ever got sick would not be allowed to have health insurance again.
Does he know what the definition of insurance is?

“So, Freeinpa, if it were spent to the tune of $40k-$60k per job, you would be standing behind the president cheering, right?”

But they are not so all the pretend economic knowledge you think you have is down the crapper again! So the Tea Party folks are right about government being the worst allocator of capital.
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Two Los Angeles departments have received $111 million in federal stimulus funds yet have created only 55 jobs so far, according to a pair of reports issued Thursday by City Controller Wendy Greuel.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-audit-20100917,0,3706864.story

“freeinpa: Are you saying that repeal would not raise the debt, or that it’s OK if the debt goes up?”
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It would not raise the debt. Spending raises debt. Expected Revenue is not spending.
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Why do liberals have such a difficult time with a simple concept

Another simple concept: If the world is getting warmer, each year there should be less ice to melt. If this past year was the warmest and the ice has been melting to low levels one can logically assume that the ice woulsd be thinner and more melt would be expected in the warmest year. Unless the level of ice fluctuates up and down regardless of temperatures through the year. Meaning the masters of trendline analysis are extrapolating something that you cannot extrapolate.

Darts anyone!

“Huckabee, the great Christianist spokesperson.
By his logic, if I have a claim on my car insurance, I should never be allowed to have auto insurance again and never be allowed to drive”

Gee a bigoted name calling screech along with irrational thinking. Apr2563- a twofer. Any insurance by its nature will turn down coverage of someone with a pre-existing condition, prior accidents or multiple claims. They are in the risk management business not wealth re-distribution business. If you are high risk they turn you down or charge an extremely high fee. Neither of which is palatable to liberals. The insurance companies should just provide the coverage, just like the song “money for nothing”

“speck”tacular…

It would not raise the debt. Spending raises debt. Expected Revenue is not spending

Expected revenue combined with expected spending is called a budget. If spending increases or revenue decrease, the deficit is increased. Basic accounting. Boehner is not a good source for either facts or talking points btw.

From your link:
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“”And we’ve only spent 13% of what we’ve received,” he said.”
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City and state governments are as slow as or slower than the federal government, but, from your POV about the government spending too much, don’t worry. According to the article you just linked to the 87% of the money is not being handed out in big gifts, but, instead, snugly sitting in a city bank account possibly gathering interest.
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You misrepresented the article in two ways:
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1) There was no corrupt payout of large sums to anybody politically connected or not.
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2) The money was not spent.
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3) You have made it obvious that this was a rare extreme example of local government dragging thier feet and have not proven anything about the stimulus package as a whole.
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“But they are not so all the pretend economic knowledge you think you have is down the crapper again!”
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You have not here nor any time presented any facts to support your claim that I do not know economics.
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A board of local elected officials dragging their feet is not what economics is the study of.
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“So the Tea Party folks are right about government being the worst allocator of capital.”
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Capital?
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Capital, sir, is the equipment, funding and land for a private, for profit business and, you will notice that this is not about the city opening a for profit business.
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“1. Cash or goods used to generate income either by investing in a business or a different income property.

2. The net worth of a business; that is, the amount by which its assets exceed its liabilities.

3. The money, property, and other valuables which collectively represent the wealth of an individual or business.”
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http://www.investorwords.com/694/capital.html
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Sorry, you not only failed to make your overall point, but, you have shown that you lack the basic vocabulary for business, accounting, finance or economics by using the word “capital” when, perhaps, you meant “money”.
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Even if you used to correct words, this is less than 1% of 1% of the total stimulus package much like somebody like you earning $75,000 per year misspending $7.50 in one year. (You probably have dropped that much out of your pocket and onto the ground by accident when buying things this year.)

“It would not raise the debt. Spending raises debt. Expected Revenue is not spending.”
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15% of the federal budget goes towards, as you call it, “redistribution” .
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As I posted last night:
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Welfare 557.3 Billion.
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http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html#usgs30240
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budget for 2010 totals $3.55 trillion
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget
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That would 15.69% of tax money going to welfare programs.
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If your taxes are 30% of your income then 15.56% of 30% = 4.66% of your income.
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If you own your own home, have children, etc and make under $250k per year, you are paying considerably less than 30% of your income.
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So this “wealth distribution” you are so upset about is about 3% to 4% of your income.
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As a percent of GDP welfare is even lower.
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So, where would you like to cut spending from after that 15% of the budget to prevent the poor from starving to death on our streets?
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Name items?
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Do you want to abolish the FBI, Highways, the CIA, aid to cities and towns for Police and Fire… where else would you like to cut if you had your way?

“Mr. Barker is now concentrating his efforts on spaying and neutering humans.”
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I think it was Christine O’Donnell was neutered most recently, that is why she is against all forms of gratification.

“Any insurance by its nature will turn down coverage of someone with a pre-existing condition”

This is why they are ineffective and should be done away with, along with your level of discourse.

“Expected revenue combined with expected spending is called a budget”
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Yes and if revenue goes down spending should follow. It never does! So spending causing the deficit and debt and the drop in expected revenue.

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Rev Jim I am sure that ambling made sense to any number of those voices in your head.
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The Cato Institute took out a full page ad in the WSJ yesterday quoting President-elect Obama speech in Nov 2008.

We will go through our federal budget page by page, line by line, eliminating those programs we do not need.

President Obama we are still waiting!

“Gee a bigoted name calling screech along with irrational thinking. Apr2563- a twofer.”
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“1.
stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own.
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the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot. ”
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigotry
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Sorry, Freeinpa, the definition of “bigot” seems to fit you, not Apr, like a glove.
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” Any insurance by its nature will turn down coverage of someone with a pre-existing condition, prior accidents or multiple claims.”
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No, that is not true. You later are factually correct.
“If you are high risk they turn you down or charge an extremely high fee.”
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But if hired through a business or other entity where the assortment of people is random (employees of, say, IBM are not more or less likely to be sick or healthy than the general population) insurers often will have a single charge across the board for the average need. Some people like me would go to the doctor five times more often (as in once a year for a checkup) while others are very, very ill.
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“They are in the risk management business not wealth re-distribution business.”
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And are the “all you can eat” restaurants in the “wealth distribution business since they have one charge for everybody from anorexics like Ann Coulter to Rush Limbaugh?
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“‘For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’ 37“Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38‘And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39‘When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40“The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’ ”
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You might say that this is a very, very left wing, Marxist-Socialist statement completely opposing the modern Republican Party. It is, of course, Matthew 25:35, New American Standard Bible.”
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Damn, if you are Christian, then you’d better watch out since that devil is going to spend eternity kicking some Republican ass and Mike Huckabee’s is going to be the first ass to get kicked.

Rev Jim once again answering questions in a thread not related. Proving you have nothing but blind hate for any conservative opinion. You are a knee jerk a*shole.
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“City and state governments are as slow as or slower than the federal government”

Yes proving 2 things government is the worst allocator of capital and the only shovel ready jobs there ever were was the crap being shoveled by liberals about the value of the stimulus.
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“The money was not spent”

Untrue- As far as the Federal budget is concerned the money is gone.
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“You have made it obvious that this was a rare extreme example of local government dragging thier feet and have not proven anything about the stimulus package as a whole.”

Wrong again Hall of Fame Loser. This is one of the few cities that have audited it. NJ did and some others, the examples are endless. And it has proven the stimulus is the most inefficient most expensive way to re-start the economy.

I am starting to think Harvard NIght and Landscaping School kicked you out – you just didn’t drop out

:I think it was Christine O’Donnell was neutered most recently, that is why she is against all forms of gratification.”
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It’s a shame your mother wasn’t offered that opportunity instead of using a post-birth lobotomy for you.

“This is why they are ineffective and should be done away with, along with your level of discourse”

Then it is not insurance it is an entitlement and a public giveaway.

And my level of discourse is here to stay. The days of liberals spreading crap unabated is over. Deal with it.
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Perennial loser-Rev Jim
“stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief,

“Huckabee, the great Christianist spokesperson”

Was a derogatory shot at him and his religion. Too bad you can’t read or understand things you copy. The rest is more rambling of you trying to be relevant–Fail (again)

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“And my level of discourse is here to stay Deal with it.”
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My guess is you will die a lonely man.
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“Yes and if revenue goes down spending should follow. It never does! So spending causing the deficit and debt and the drop in expected revenue.”
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First, from where would you cut spending if it is a deficit more than 15% so that after you closed down the “redistribution of wealth” (AKA stopping the poor from starving on our streets as they do in India among other places) where do you cut from to prevent a deficit?
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Second, if businesses are laying off because there are not people hired by somebody else walking in the door and buying things, why is it so unimaginable to have the government resume many neglected projects to hire people to do the work and then, with that money they earned, walk into stores and buy things.
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Freakinpa, so far your response has been “La la la la la la la! I can’t hear you! La la la la la la” to my questions.

“”Huckabee, the great Christianist spokesperson”

Was a derogatory shot at him…”
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Because he is an a hole.
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“…and his religion.”
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No, it is to say that Christianity is Great and Mike Huckabee is unworthy of being called a Christian.
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Apr is a Christian.
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“The days of liberals spreading crap unabated is over…”
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Is a perfect example of:”stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief..”
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Sir, Liberal is a creed.
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Sorry, Freeinpa, I am the only one who bothers to tell you that your kindergarten games are not at all within the realm of adult debate.

“”The money was not spent”

Untrue- As far as the Federal budget is concerned the money is gone.”
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It is gone from federal funds to become local funds.
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It’s like taking a $20 bill from your right pocket and putting it in your left pocket and saying “it is gone… from my right pocket”.
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The city will spend the money on job creation but, unfortunately not in time for the 2010 mid term elections so that the economy won’t be coming back until these local governments get their acts together and use the funds gathering interest in bank accounts rather than job creation.
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Ready to quit debating with the college kids and go back to kindergarten?
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“I am starting to think Harvard NIght and Landscaping School kicked you out ..”
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“…and landscaping” – cute. I hope that the people who cut your lawn know that you hate them.
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By Harvard Standards, I am a conservative.
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But, then again, what would you possibly know about anything past the fourth grade?

“It’s a shame your mother wasn’t offered that opportunity..”
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That reminds me, I think a friend of mine owes you $5 from your mother’s estate for a trick he got an IOU for.
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(Hey, you want to be crude about mothers.)

15.5 Belongs here.
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Your incoherent fact free rants all look so much alike that I do confuse them sometimes.

“We will go through our federal budget page by page, line by line, eliminating those programs we do not need.”
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So, you are saying that you know spending must be cut, but, you need to wait for a Liberal President to tell you where.
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Have a look for yourself. Don’t wait for liberals unless you know that the president is far, far smarter than you are.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget
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If are not going to admit that you are nowhere near as qualified as even an average person much less our intelligent president and intelligent members of both houses, please use this and make a list of programs you believe need to be abolished.
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Removing welfare is only 15%.
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So, where is the rest coming from?

“Lead vocalist Jerry Garcia was registered as Republican.”
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Umm, Patrick ,could you provide a link for that? The first link that pops up for “Jerry Garcia registered Republican” goes to your statement in this thread. Maybe Bill Kreutzmann, but really, not Jerry.
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Even to this day, pristine Grateful Dead soundboards are available for all shows that have not been commercially released on Archive.org. Very, very, very unRepublican.

“Your incoherent fact free rants all look so much alike that I do confuse them sometimes.”

It had the facts. it had the link and it had a confused you. Same as always!

“So, you are saying that you know spending must be cut, but, you need to wait for a Liberal President to tell you where”
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Just pointing out one of the never ending liberal lies.
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“First, from where would you cut spending if it is a deficit more than 15% so that after you closed down the “redistribution of wealth” (AKA stopping the poor from starving on our streets as they do in India among other places) where do you cut from to prevent a deficit?”

Education subsidies, Farm subsidies, Housing subsidies, Amtrak, Post Office and across the board pay cut for federal employees. That’s just a start.

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The reason you only hear lalalal is the your head is up your arse

“:It’s like taking a $20 bill from your right pocket and putting it in your left pocket and saying “it is gone… from my right pocket”.

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Your knowledge of accounting is only exceeded by your stupidity economics. Since it still in your pocket the tax payers must be paying imaginary interest on the debt from the deficit that sits in the other pocket.

Proving once again that the government is the most inefficient allocator of capital and you are an idiot

Rev Jim you once again make 2 idiot assumptions:1) you have anything relevant to say and 2) anybody gives a crap about what you say. Besides no one believes you have a friend and blow up dolls don’t count

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But it did show the wonderful mind set of how liberals talk about conservative women.

Still a loser, Rev Jim

“… it had a confused you.”
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No, the facts were that the money went unspent and will be spent sometime in the future.
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Being the easily confused man that you are, you were saying that it was $400K per job created ,which is false.

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Sir, Liberal is a creed”

No its a mental disorder and you are the poster boy!

“Education subsidies, Farm subsidies, Housing subsidies, Amtrak, Post Office and across the board pay cut for federal employees. That’s just a start.”
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Then take out your calculator and add it up and see if it will add up to more than, at best 20% of the entire federal budget.
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Then, with specifics, say what Obama should do.
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Also, you do know that if federal employees earn too little they, absolutely, will quit.
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I guess, if it cuts the budget, you wouldn’t mind .
waiting until November to get your tax return with an IRS emptied out.
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I, as most people, would not want worse service for less money.

“Your knowledge of accounting is only exceeded by your stupidity economics. Since it still in your pocket the tax payers must be paying imaginary interest on the debt from the deficit that sits in the other pocket.”
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No, but the money is receiving interest in a city bank account while the city is working out how to spend it.
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So, it is paying interest out of your left pocket but getting paid interest in your right pocket.
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You don’t know what an interest bearing bank account is and do not know that municipalities do have interest bearing accounts?

“…wonderful mind set of how liberals talk about conservative women.”
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Freeinpa, you have a mouth like a whore, so, unlike a respectable conservative, I figured whores were in your family.
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Wasn’t five cent Lucy, that girl with the nasty mouth in time square in 1956 your Mom?
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You talk like whore, so, what do you expect me to think of your mother.
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If you were from a Catholic household, you would have been punished for being so rude to people.

You’ve proven my point: you aren’t a respectable conservative, you’re a bigot with manors like a barnyard animal.
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So, expect to be addressed like a SOB if you act like one.

I heard it in a news broadcast after Garcia’s death.
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I can’t verify that, but, the fact that you couldn’t find it either lets me know that I didn’t miss something.

Yes and if revenue goes down spending should follow.

Sure. That’s a reasonable proposition and it’s a bipartisan problem.

So spending causing the deficit and debt and the drop in expected revenue.

Uh….no. That’s where your problem is located. In this case the estate tax is zero this year and it resumes at the old level in 2011. Eliminating the tax would blow a monstrous hole in the federal budget. Contrary to your belief, cutting taxes (revenue) does contribute to any annual deficit and, subsequently, the debt. It’s really quite simple as I previously stated. If you want to enact a tax cut, spending should be cut by an equal amount. As such, the tax cut would be “paid for” and the budget would balance. Reckless tax cutting, as done W and the Repubs, led to the current state we are in; they were too craven to also reduce spending by a like amount. As such, their insistence that tax cuts do not increase the deficit is preposterous.

Freakinpa,
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I grew up in a very conservative and very Republican suburb of New York where William F Buckley had a home.
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Had I crossed his path, with his great accomplishments and obvious intelligence and being forty six years older than I am would have been “Mr. Buckley”.
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But, you, Freak, are not Mr.
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You are lower than toilet paper.
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Then, when people like you are the ones with the biggest mouths you wonder why there is so much partisanship and so little respect for today’s Republicans.

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