In the Arena

The Crisis in Afghanistan

With my month-long September road trip looming, I’m having to face the reality that I won’t be able to keep up with some of the issues I’ve been focusing upon–especially the overseas issues, and most especially Afghanistan, which seems to be falling apart. The latest crisis, the run on the Kabul Bank, has brought the rot at the heart of the Karzai government to the fore. I’m told that some leading members of the Obama Administration are reaching a breaking point, finally convinced that the current Afghan government is irredeemable. This is at variance with leading members of the military, especially the new Centcom commander Jim Mattes–who just took his first trip to the country as Commander–and David Petraeus, who always sees the glass three-quarters full.

It seems entirely possible that a real clash between the Administration and the military is looming–far more serious than the phony and minor disputes overblown by the neoconservative war-lovers in the past. The military will probably exercise its option to add 3,000 more troops, a little-known codicil in last December’s action plan–and lobby hard to delay or scuttle the Administration’s next review, which is scheduled for December. General Petraeus has already said publicly, on several occasions, that the December review isn’t a big deal. He’s wrong. It is a very big deal, I’m told, and getting bigger with each new Afghan disappointment. (The situation is further aggravated by the utter chaos in Pakistan, in the wake of the flooding and the civilian government’s entirely inadequate response to that crisis.)

Here’s what to watch for now: The Administration wants to keep Afghanistan on the back burner for the next two months, until after the election. The military is playing a different hand. It will try, via a surreptitious media strategy, to get the President to delay any policy review, to give a new vote of confidence to a failing and deeply flawed, in my view, war strategy. Bob Woodward’s new book, an account of the Administration’s Afghanistan decision-making process, could well strengthen the military’s hand; some administration officials fear that the book will characterize the process as messy and chaotic. (Woodward wrote a similar book about Bill Clinton’s messy, chaotic budget-making process in 1993, a process that emerged, over time, as a major economic and political triumph). In short, there will be an effort to portray the President as an indecisive, non-military wimp. There will be an effort to get him to back off his July 2011 date for the beginning of the transition to Afghan “control.” There may even be a request for more troops. All this will happen in the midst of a political campaign that may well prove devastating for Democrats. This is a test of strength that Obama can’t afford to lose. A major review of Afghan strategy is necessary–in fact, it’s needed right now. A major change in strategy, given the outrageous incompetence and corruption of the Karzai government. It is time to downgrade the importance of Afghanistan, and focus on trying to meliorate  the real problem in the region–the enduring emnity between Pakistan and India.

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    BHO could stand to be a little more HST.

  • sacredh

    The thought that we could prevail in Afghanistan when all others had failed seems like little more than hubris to me. What the military needs to realize is that the President commands the military. They may test Obama and wage a public relations war, but failure to obey the Commander in Chief is treason.

  • sacredh

    Btw Joe, good luck on your coming road trip. I look forward to your reports from the field.

  • sacredh

    If you run into any sordid idiots, you have to tell us which one of us it was. It may also be a good chance for you to post some “1000 Words” from the heartland.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “sordid idiots”
    .
    That’s not going away anytime soon, is it?

  • sacredh

    I did enjoy it. From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. I really did get a kick out of it.

  • michaelfury

    “the President commands the military”

    Does he?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/the-protection-racket/

  • sacredh

    I know I’ve got a spray can of “Blogwhore B Gone” somewhere around here.

  • michaelfury

    “The military is playing a different hand. It will try, via a surreptitious media strategy, to get the President to delay any policy review, to give a new vote of confidence to a failing and deeply flawed, in my view, war strategy.”

    Are you suggesting that the Pentagon is waging psychological warfare against the civilian government of the United States, Mr. Klein?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/target-audience/

  • Paul-no not that one

    It’s no “humorless ego vampires*” but it was pretty funny.
    .
    * Old Ana Marie Cox’s classic.

  • michaelfury

    “Blogwhore”? There is no Paypal button on that site, no way to buy me. Unlike Mr. Klein and his corporate media peers, I sell nothing, I serve no master. Refute my information if you can.

  • sacredh

    AMC had already vacated by the time I wandered in. I’ve seen her name mentioned many times though. “humorless ego vampires”…that would have been fun. I’d have had a field day.

  • Paul-no not that one

    You missed a lot of nothing.
    .
    Last time I read her she was doing online chats with Tucker Carlson at WAPO.
    .
    A perfect pairing. My jaw would be agape at the vacuousness.

  • sacredh

    “I sell nothing, I serve no master. Refute my information if you can.”
    .
    Ego tripping doesn’t necessarily require a financial reward. Promoting your blog on another blog is blogwhoring.
    .
    Well, I have to go and serve my master. We’re canning tomatoes today.

  • kathy

    Joe – this is disheartening. Glad for the heads up about the ratcheting up of the military/administration tussle. I hope you do find time to at least say “I told you so.” And if by some chance you’re wrong, so much the better.

  • formerlyjames

    “It is time to downgrade the importance of Afghanistan, and focus on trying to meliorate the real problem in the region–the enduring emnity between Pakistan and India.”
    .
    Our foreign interference has managed to screw up everything since the Marshall Plan, so let’s leave no stone unturned, and maintain a perfect record. While isolationism isn’t productive and proactive, given our record it would be preferable to reassert that posture.

  • formerlyjames

    Mr. Klein, rather than divert you from attention to the wars and foreign policy, it would seem that a logical basis for conversation during your road trip and interaction with the people would be those very issues.

  • tharwatfawzi

    The American , and other NATO forces , are in Afghanistan only because of the evil crimes of 9/11. All in the world pray now that President Obama will very soon , before the November US elections , publicly disclose the names of the criminals in the USA and in the world ,who are ultimately responsible for , as well as the complete facts about , the evil crimes of 9/11 and the so called Al Qaeda ,
    the two wars that followed in Iraq and Afghanistan – both citing 9/11 as the reason,
    the devastation that these wars have caused in these two countries ,
    the hundreds or thousands of Americans, Canadians and other NATO heroes killed or wounded ,
    the thousands or millions of Muslims and others who were killed, wounded ,displaced……in the world
    , the present daily killing of tens or hundreds of innocents in Iraq or Afghanistan to keep the US and NATO fully engaged , to claim that President Obama policies of disengagement are not working
    and the very serious ,still existing , economic problems that followed these wars in the USA and in the world.
    Those criminals of 9/11 are very likely also responsible for the present rig explosion disaster in the USA and for the human, ecological , environmental and economic devastation it caused.
    Tharwat Fawzi
    ——————————————————————————————————————————-

  • apr2563

    saredh: Ana Marie Cox was great for snark which we all appreciate. But that is as deep as it got. Sort of the Maureen Dowd of blogging.

  • apr2563

    We never learn from history. Even recent history.
    The military and political lies about Vietnam.
    The Soviet’s war in Afghanistan.
    The reign of the Shah of Iran.
    The Contra wars.
    The preemptive Iraq war.
    …The list is almost endless.
    .
    Too often, Joe, the traditional media does not get the disasters looming until untold lives are lost and it is too late.

  • sacredh

    “Sort of the Maureen Dowd of blogging.”
    .
    I enjoy a good snark as well as anyone, but she was really as bad as Dowd? I’ve thought that Dowd is hopelessly over-employed.

  • allthingsinaname

    A country can not win a war that is nor Just. A Just War by definition is winnable.

  • sacredh

    Sometimes the good guys lose. History is littered with those that fell to superior technologies and numbers. Right or wrong had little or nothing to do with it. Winning a “just war” depends on which side you’re on. Many empires have fallen because of their own over ambition and divisions from within.

  • allthingsinaname

    sacreth,
    .
    I would agree with your statement. I am talking about a Nation entering or declaring a war.
    .
    It would seem pointless to enter a war one could not clearly win, especially at the cost of lives one hopes to prevent.
    .
    There are other conditions of course.

    http://www.catholic.com/library/Just_War_Doctrine_1.asp

  • apr2563

    In my opinion, yes. Her only purpose was snark. She came from Wonkette.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    I know I keep on dwelling on it but the founders of our Country were exceeding distrustful of the Military and designed a Constitution specifically designed to limit it’s influence.

    The Congress shall have Power [...]To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules
    concerning Captures on Land and Water;

    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

    To provide and maintain a Navy;

    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    Obviosly the notion of State Militias being our primary line of defense disappeared after the Civil war, but it’s clear that the Founders knew that Military organizations tended toward self aggrandizement and that they were therefore a danger to freedom.

    No events in recent history suggest that they were wrong.

  • sacredh

    allthings,
    .
    I agree. I had no problem at all with us going into Afghanistan to take out the Taliban. I never felt like we could take all of them out. Take out most of them and then get the hell out. Staying is where we screwed up. The Soviets found out the hard way that winning a war in Afghanistan was easier said than done. Evidently we weren’t paying attention. IMHO, where we make our biggest mistakes is assuming that all people and nations want the same political system and shared value systems that we have.
    .
    We’re a fractured nation now and we can’t even agree within our own system what it is that we want or how to get it. We can’t even agree on what the words of our constitution means. All of the money in the world isn’t going to change things. We’ll just wind up destroying them and bankrupting ourselves.

  • kbanginmotown

    sacred: Have you ever read Wonkette? The snark factor is still pretty good. Ana Marie set the tone back in 2004 and I’ll admit to signing up for a Swampland account when she joined TIME.com in ’06.
    .
    To her credit, she dragged Karen and Joe into blogging, including video “Swampcasts” with KT to increase the interaction with us critters. (Once Karen found her stride, there was no stopping her).
    .
    I’ll echo apr’s snark/depth observation.
    .
    That said; you’d've loved the snark quotient back then…

  • sacredh

    kbang, I have to admit that I’ve never read Wonkette. Honestly, at least 90% of my online time is spent on Swampland. The only time I’ve ever even been to the Huffington post was when a conservative friend linked to it and “demanded” I defend something he didn’t agree with that he’d read there. He always assumes that liberals agree on everything. He’s an idiot. That friendship just bit the dust this week and I have to say that I’m happy about it.

  • Paul-no not that one

    sacred, it couldn’t be less of my (or anyone’s) business but you had a friendship end over politics?
    .
    Sad.

  • Paul-no not that one

    PD-it IS a bit disconcerting how casual JK is about the whole idea of the generals undermining the Commander in Chief.
    .
    That stuff probably bugs me more because “Seven Days in May” has been my favorite book since my teenage years.

  • ralphinphnx

    The fact that the American people were foolish enough to elect a smooth talking teleprompter reader,with no
    military service experience as President and Commander in Chief Barack Hussein Obama shows very clearly how the United States of America set itself
    up for the bigggest military failure of all time,over in Afghanistan and Iraq as well and there is no escaping
    the fact the huge mistake by the voters has now cost
    the USA even higher losses in terms of blood,lost lives,
    and national treasure under the dismal and failed leadership of Barack Hussein Obama then it already
    had cost us by George W Bush now then.

    There once again we find that unless we learn from the painful lessons that history is trying to teach us,just
    like it did the Russians and before that the British in Afghanistan as well,we too are going to be doomed to
    keep repeating them,over and over again,ourselves,
    and the US too finally departs Afghanistan in defeat
    just like the Russians and British did before us as well.

    Therefore,the time has definitely come for the American voters to rise up and demand our own US Congress go en mass and force our dismal failure
    pathetic excuse of a President and Commander in
    Chief Barack Hussein Obama to Resign Immediately
    or Be Impeached by Congress here and now.

    For,as the late great American General Douglas MacArthur once said, “There is no substitute for Victory” and I would add Barack Hussein Obama, Sec
    of Defense Robert Gates,Admiral Micheal Mullin the
    Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and Glory Seeker General
    David Petraus are totally incapable and too incompetent to produce a victory in Afghanistan only
    capable to produce the worst military defeat in all
    United States History in Afghanistan! Remove Obama
    and his Incompetent Sock Puppets here and now!

  • Paul-no not that one

    In paragraph 2 you cite the history of no country being able to defeat Afghanistan and you conclude that the current leadership is “totally incapable and too incompetent to produce a victory in Afghanistan”.
    .
    Could you please reconcile those?

  • sacredh

    Pnnto, two since the end of April. The first one ended because he no longer wanted to be associated with me because I’m a communist (I voted for Obama). He had no idea that I’d been talking his son out of ending his relationship with HIM because of disagreements over politics/religion and job choice.
    .
    The second just ended because he lost a bet and refused to honor it. I let him out of the bet and let him fulfill the bet on terms that he agreed to just a week ago. He then decided not to honor the terms he had just agreed to (at the urging of his wife who insisted that I was letting him off far too easy) and then went completely off the deep end.
    .
    It’s not a big deal. I tend to keep friends for good once I’ve made them. That’s probably a mistake. People change over the course of years/decades and things we had in common in the past really aren’t much of a reason to remain friends if we have virtually nothing in common now. I think it’s better just to let things go if the only reason you try to maintain a friendship is based on something that no longer exists.

  • sacredh

    “That stuff probably bugs me more because “Seven Days in May” has been my favorite book since my teenage years.”

    The movie wasn’t bad either. It reminded me of “Failsafe”. Some of those Cold War flicks were great.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Sorry to read that sacred.
    .
    And difficult to disagree with your conclusion.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Yeah the movie was good.
    .
    That book got me reading Fletcher Knebel. “Dark Horse” was one my favorites.
    .
    He always put in just enough racy (to me at the time) stuff to keep me coming back.
    .
    Just grabbed my copy of SDiM. It is due back to the Hennepin County Library on Dec 3 1980.
    .
    I think my dad paid off my fines when I went to college.

  • sacredh

    I’m fine with it. It’s probably better for his health too. He’s fired up all the time anymore and he usually looks like he’s ready to stroke out or blow a vein. It’s impossible to get him to talk about anything other than politics. I’m p!ssed off at him right now but I wish him well. I just don’t want any further contact with him. His wife did call me the other day and had me laughing. She said that he was so mad she dug out the insurance policy just in case.
    ,
    The first friend that blew me off in April had a mild heart attack within a month. His wife went to Florida to visit their son for a week and he hasn’t heard from her in over two months. I think everyone but him has realized that she’s house hunting.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Ha-I was angry for 8 years (and kind of mad currently) and I never felt the need to scream at my republican friends.
    .
    And believe me one was begging for a smack down in 2004.
    .
    I just told him that W didn’t carry Minnesota so when you get down to it his vote couldn’t have mattered less. That he actually wasted his time and, this is the part that bugged him, money in terms of the gas it took to go vote.

  • rp1588

    Comment #9 is a total load of crap. The US military has been in Iraq continuously since early 1991, long before 2001. It first meddled in Afghanistan in 1979, Iran in 1953, and Palestine and vicinity since the end of WW2. And, of the various nations and NGOs accused of participating in the 9/11/2001 attacks, we can only be certain of one nation’s involvement: USA deliberately destroyed evidence, becoming an accessory after the fact (at a minimum) and therefore is a suspect.

  • ericnwinter

    Obama’s huge problem is he’s never demonstrated the ability to hack through ANY Gordian knots.

    Example: Truman saw blacks should not be discriminated against in the U.S. military – he made it happen – in a time of rampant racism.

    Back to current issues: Which person in the U.S., residing in a major city in a blue state, did not know that Obama’s Afghan policy was stinkin’ up the joint?

    It’s like the leaders of the Catholic church who transferred child molestors around. Who DIDN’T know that was a dumb idea?

    Problem is — once you show horrible judgment, sticking with imbecilic policies — you lose the ability to then “Go Gordian” – as people will just assume you’re reckless and desperate.

    Obama needs to resign, and then let’s try again!

  • pintortwo

    Mr Klein, thank you.
    The military will certainly use it’s agreeable media outlets to try to corner the president- as they did before the “Afghanistan surge”. I’m also sure that the president will cave-in, what I’m not sure is if he actually has any desire to do otherwise, in fact, I’m certain he doesn’t.
    .
    A major change in strategy (is needed), given the outrageous incompetence and corruption of the Karzai government.
    .
    There will be no change in strategy. Karzai is unimportant and replaceable; his removal would be cosmetic. Change is not even being considered. Not with $71 billion having been spent (according to an AP article I posted here) by the end of the year on Afghani infrastructure– which will be run exclusively by US military and private business.
    .
    Eventually we will draw-down troop levels to what is necessary to protect these assets. Meanwhile, Afghanistan will continue to rot with corruption, graft and armed conflict. Our strategy will have no concern for the Afghani people (if they go back to farming and smuggling, great; if they attack the occupying army – us – we will crush them), they will suffer war and have virtually no services, just like Iraq.
    .
    The strategy will be to effect public opinion here in the States so as to allow for the indefinite occupation of Afghanistan, then it’s off to the next area to build bases. Obama won’t stop it because we are not forcing his hand. That includes you, Mr Klein.

  • tanboontee

    The military experiences in person the dark reality of war. The White House is fed with second hand (sometimes sweetened) information.

    Their mind sets can be world apart. Clash would be inevitable; in fact, it had already happened.

  • Paul-no not that one

    If only there were a way for the clashes to be settled.
    .
    Say, maybe, a document that establishes who has the final authority.

  • mcal4402

    Joe..the sad thing about your current article is you get paid for your drivel and we don’t. What an inane article. Great insight—the military and the politicians are at odds. Wonderful. Bob Woodward’s new book is “wrong.” Who woulda thought that opinion was up your, admittedly, short sleeve. You get a twofer with that one Joe…now don’t tell us that wasn’t on your mind you rascal. You get to knock and demonize Woodward–a competitor– all the while sucking up to the White House. Everybody in the West Wing..patting you on the head…”Nice job Joe”. Ahhh basking in the glory. And who could of thought that someone was out there thinking that YOUR HERO was a non-military wimp. And who would of thought that you’d take the politicians side against the military?

    Which of course brings us back to how this column would read if you yourself weren’t a draft dodger, but I digress.

    Finally, you pull out of nowhere the point that the Obama administration focus its laser like talents on solving the on-going hostility between India and Pakistan. Yea, like that’s doable . Joe.., that was really stupid. Not sillly…but outright stupid. Could affect the adviser job with the State Dept, when TIME gets flushed….Oh Well…there is always that gig with Travelocity.

  • mcal4402

    Joe..the sad thing about your current article is you get paid for your drivel and we don’t. What an inane article. Great insight—the military and the politicians are at odds. Wonderful. Bob Woodward’s new book is “wrong.” Who woulda thought that opinion was up your, admittedly, short sleeve. You get a twofer with that one Joe…now don’t tell us that wasn’t on your mind you rascal. You get to knock and demonize Woodward–a competitor– all the while sucking up to the White House. Everybody in the West Wing..patting you on the head…”Nice job Joe”. Ahhh basking in the glory. And who could of thought that someone was out there thinking that YOUR HERO was a non-military wimp. And who would of thought that you’d take the politicians side against the military?

    Which of course brings us back to how this column would read if you yourself weren’t a draft dodger, but I digress.

    Finally, you pull out of nowhere the point that the Obama administration focus its laser like talents on solving the on-going hostility between India and Pakistan. Yea, like that’s doable. Joe.., that was really stupid. Not sillly…but outright stupid. Could affect the adviser job with the State Dept, when TIME gets flushed….Oh Well…there is always that gig with Travelocity.

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