Washington’s Weekend Festivities

Elsewhere on time.com, I have a short walk-up story about tomorrow’s Restoring Honor rally at the Lincoln Memorial. You can read it here.

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  • lizziefromcanada

    Since I am Canadian and that I cannot post last night’s Jon Stewart video on his response to Beck (we only have a version that can be seen in Canada), can anyone in the USA do it for me to reply to newfreedomblog?

    Thank you!

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Je t’en prie, lizzie: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-26-2010/i-have-a-scheme?xrs=rss_tdsvids
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    It’s about time someone restored honor at the Lincoln Memorial! Ever since he trampled states’ rights by freeing the slaves, things have been a little less Biblical and not quite right around here. Restore that honor, Glenn!

  • newfreedomblog

    Why can’t you post it lizziefromcanada? Did your government take that right away from you?

  • lizziefromcanada

    newfreedomblog

    No, free market or copyright prevents me from this. You must know that.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Nope. Rapacious parasitic capitalist corporations.

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  • lizziefromcanada

    Elvis Elvisberg

    Thank you very much. I personally appreciate the part where Stewart notes that the Tea Partiers do not want to be told what to do by the government and, at the same time, they accept to be told what to do by Beck.

    If it was not that funny, it would be pathetic.

  • newfreedomblog

    Just for you lizzieincanda!! Enjoy!! :)

  • lizziefromcanada

    A smiley just for me. Thank you so much!

    Are you for real?

  • newfreedomblog

    they accept to be told what to do by Beck.
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    What? That doesn’t even make a lick of sense.
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    Now what does make sense is that Americans didn’t roll over for the British Monarchy to continue to use and abuse them. They actually fought for their freedom, what did your ancestors do to gain their’s lizzie?

  • newfreedomblog

    Nope, the smiley is mine. You get to play the videos I posted. Enjoy!!

  • lizziefromcanada

    My ancestors were French. They fought the Brits and we are still speaking French.

  • shepherdwong

    Beck calls the gathering an apolitical event geared to support U.S. troops and others “who embody our nation’s founding principles of integrity, truth and honor.”
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    Then why is the monstrosity called “[r]estoring [h]onor?” Beck must be saying that our troops presently have no honor until the megalomaniac Himself “restores” it. I guess we can add that to the traitorous slander about the President being a racist. At least he picked the perfect time and place for a lying, race-baiting traitor; at the Lincoln’s feet in King’s shoes on the National Mall. Oh, and it will take a lot more than 100,000 to “pack the Mall.” Hell, even Nation of Islam head Louis Farrakhan was able to beat that by a mile.

  • lizziefromcanada

    Are you for real?

  • lizziefromcanada

    I was amazed to learn that the USA lost their honor. Was it during the Bush presidency?

  • newfreedomblog

    Oh I do believe there will be a few more than 100,000 people who show up.
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    My niece in Virginia just called me earlier today. Interstate 95 south of Washington is nothing short of a bumper to bumper parking lot 40 miles outside of Washington. And that was 5 hours BEFORE rush hour even started.

  • newfreedomblog

    Oh and sheperdWONG. The Restoring Honor part is for people like YOU.

  • newfreedomblog

    Allez-vous vis et le cheval, monté sur toi ici sur, lizziefromcanada

  • lizziefromcanada

    newformblog

    You should take French classes or stay away from Google translate, your sentence makes no sense.

    Even the Google translation of your sentence from French to English makes no sense : Will you live and the horse rode you on here , lizziefromcanada

  • gum0nshoe

    A word by word translates imparts his meaning, if you try to read it as you would english, but its still mostly meaningless. Also, its pretty standard crud from him.

    If it weren’t for his constant insults, I would actually think he was being paid to post his videos and links. I think he sadly believes he’s in the right, though.

    Its unfortunate because there are plenty of people with conservative ideas that are wonderful human beings. And there are plenty of legitimate conservative ideas on top of that. But then, there are people like him that are really loud, or perhaps vocal, that go and create a stereotype because the others are too often silent in comparison. It happens of the Left too, but it seems to have been made more acceptable on the right.

  • newfreedomblog

    Here try this one lizzieborden:
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    Disparaissent la vis vous-même et le cheval que vous êtes monté dedans ici dessus, lizziefromcanada

  • lizziefromcanada

    newfreedomblog

    I will translate word for word what you wrote.

    Disappear the screw yourself and the horse you mounted inside here over, lizzieducanada.

    I think you are angry at me, am I right?

    If it’s the case, too bad for you!

  • shepherdwong

    Interstate 95 south of Washington is nothing short of a bumper to bumper parking lot 40 miles outside of Washington. And that was 5 hours BEFORE rush hour even started.
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    In DC, that’s called “Friday.” But do keep believing that you’re part of something more than an ever-shrinking, brainwashed, ignorant, traitorous, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, authoritarian-following angry-old-white-person’s party, working tirelessly in service of rich elites who hold you in even more contempt that I do.

  • newfreedomblog

    Les gens comme vous en Amérique sont un dixième de dollar par douzaine, pissent off! lizziefromcanada

  • newfreedomblog

    Just watch your TeeVee tomorrow sheppywong. You shall see my friend, you shall see!!

  • lizziefromcanada

    Well, after tthe Blacks, the gays, the Muslims now it is the French speaking Americans. Yeah, my grand-dad was an American, born in Michigan. I am sure the Cajuns will like your comment.

    You are despicable.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Its unfortunate because there are plenty of people with conservative ideas that are wonderful human beings. And there are plenty of legitimate conservative ideas on top of that. But then, there are people like him that are really loud, or perhaps vocal, that go and create a stereotype because the others are too often silent in comparison.”
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    I’ve mentioned this before that, basically, anybody in my extended family born before 1955 is conservative and everybody in my extended family born after 1955 is liberal. I am out of town to see my extended family for a wedding and all of the conservatives and liberals in my family get along just fine.
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    I think rustyfreeper, 3X, Earl and Groenhagen are from right wing enclaves, do not know anybody is not right wing and, after watching Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck they try being a-holes to actual liberals online and are shocked and appalled that real life liberals do respond unlike playing a tape of some Democrat and then making fun of him on TV or on the radio.
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    There are plenty of real life conservatives who are more like being in the Nixon Kennedy debates than like being dropped onto Rush Limbaugh’s lap.
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    (Limbaugh’s lap, of course, does cover eighteen zip codes, has it’s own area code and an interstate highway to get from one side to the other.)

  • shepherdwong

    I will translate word for word what you wrote.
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    You’re lucky. We’re forced to do that every day (and it seldom make any more sense). I guess we have yet to learn what is his native language.

  • apr2563

    lizzie: Thank you for posting here. We need some polite Canadians to balance our right wing reactionaries. Unfortunately, they hate everyone:
    Franch
    Canadians
    Muslims
    Blacks
    Browns
    Scandanavians
    Homosexuals
    Unions
    Teachers
    The poor
    Religions who believe in social justice
    The unemployed
    Liberals
    Democrats
    Government workers
    Obama and Michelle
    I think they actually hate themselves.
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    The list is endless. Being hated by them is an honor. Beck bringing honor back to our country is a joke.

  • allthingsinaname

    In DC, that’s called “Friday.” But do keep believing that you’re part of something more than an ever-shrinking, brainwashed, ignorant, traitorous, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, authoritarian-following angry-old-white-person’s party, working tirelessly in service of rich elites who hold you in even more contempt that I do.

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    Sometimes you really piss me off but, that was good.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Rusty, this theme of conservatives cutting soldier’s pay or benefits and then taking footage from before I was born of some hippie somewhere spitting on a soldier to say that liberals hate soldiers and conservatives love them is just annoying BS.
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    Serving under a Democrat is as honorable as serving under a Republican.
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    So, this concept of ‘restoring honor’ by a neurologically impaired right wing sycophant is just another example of stupid Conservative Tricks.
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    By 8/28/11, most conservatives will have forgotten it as will have most Americans.
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    By 8/28/12,most Beck/Palin/other wingnut fans will have forgotten it.
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    By 8/28/13, everybody will have forgotten it.

  • apr2563

    Unfortunately, the traditional media will cover this event by the meglomaniac Lonesome Rhodes, Elmer Gantry clone, Glen Beck as a serious event.
    The Daily Show and Colbert will have to do the real reporting.

  • 53_3

    Hi lizzieincanada!
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    I want to apologize sincerely for the behavior of the worst we Americans have to offer.
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    I welcome you to Swampland and I sincerely hope that you will soon develop a thick enough skin and a hearty sense of humor when dealing with the insane.
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    Thank you…

  • 53_3

    What happened to that five million.
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    Now I’m hearing the neighborhood of one hundred thousand.
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    Sh!t. Rusty was crowing about 27,000 buses, so if you take away the driver, that means only three people per bus are attending!

  • 53_3

    Just FYI everyone:
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    At 60 feet, 1,000 buses, parked double wide, would stretch for six miles.
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    At 80 people per bus, that would be 80,000 people.
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    That is all…

  • 53_3

    Another FYI:
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    The Black Family Reunion numbered 767,000 people.
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    That is EIGHT TIMES the number of people projected to attend Beck’s Crackheads for Canchres rally!

  • 53_3

    Yet another FYI:
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    Keep in mind that the Beck Crackhead for Canchres Rally is NOT spontaneous. It is highly organized and underwritten by FOX and Freedomworks.

  • 53_3

    By the way. It might be of interest to everyone to recall Rusty’s blatent attempt to fan racial hatred yesterday:
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    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/08/27/morning-must-reads-grim-outlook/comment-page-1/#comment-194687
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    I would like to see just how many people feel that it is appropriate for Rusty to “appropriate” Martin Luther Kings’ persona to further his agenda
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    What say ye?

  • lizziefromcanada

    He’s trying to restor his honor.

  • shepherdwong

    We’ll know if he stands up and renounces his traitorous, racist, lying slander of the President. Otherwise, Glenn Beck has no honor to restor.

  • apr2563

    It makes me sick. The opinionators should be pointing out how ludicrous this scheme to boost the Beck money machine is.
    He has said a miracle will happen at his speech. He will use talking points to not interfere with God speaking to him. He compared the event to the NASA moonwalk and the taking of Iwo Jima.
    The scary thing he is a meglomaniac who also knows he is a meglomaniac and will pervert and manipulate anything to gain attention. His parishoners have found themselves a false god.

  • lizziefromcanada

    shepherdwong

    I don’t know if you were replying to my comment but I was talking about rusty.

    However, you are completely right about Beck.

  • shepherdwong

    Just watch your TeeVee tomorrow…
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    If I have the misfortune to be stuck inside watching TV on Saturday, I’d sooner poke my eyes out (or watch golf) than have to listen to the likes of Beck and Palin. Besides, I can always watch the most pathetic parts during the mock-fest next week. Though it will be interesting to see if Glenn Beck turns out to be nearly as popular as Louis Farrakhan.

  • lizziefromcanada

    apr2563

    Beck is there to make money. Same as Palin.

  • shepherdwong

    lizzie, fair to say, on the right there’s plenty of missing honor to go around.

  • nflfoghorn

    Aw man, another group of people RustFreep can racially insult.

  • newfreedomblog

    Restoring Honor Liberal-style
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  • newfreedomblog

    More wonderful liberals protesting against our military.
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  • newfreedomblog

    Does it ever get confusing for you april when you get your news from two comedy shows?

  • newfreedomblog

    How many people are in 20,000 buses IQ53? Can you count that high?

  • lizziefromcanada

    newfreedomblog

    Does it ever get one track minded for you to get your news only from Fox News?

  • newfreedomblog

    Not getting much buy-in tonight IQ53……..guess your rants go unnoticed. Too bad!!
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    Go ahead just call me a racist, that was always your best shot.

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  • husein11

    Liberals are the true haters. They have a hatred for the United States and the only reason why they remain in the country, although they have no business being there, is to continue to live off the public dole. Liberals’ greatest fear is that someone will become President who won’t put up with their living off public assistance their entire life and they would have to get a job and dare be independent. Yikes, the horror of such a thing happening.

  • sacredh

    How many people are supposed to turn out for this thing? I saw a 5,000,000 figure yesterday that I thought was total BS. I saw 1,000,000 today which I thought was remotely possible and now they’re saying 100,000? 100k seems awfully low. Any predictions from the swampcritters?

    I’m going to guess 250k. If only 100k show up I’m going to laugh.

  • apr2563

    http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=2531
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    If you can’t wait for the actual miraculous event, here is a preview of what will happen at the Beck resurrection and ascendancy to heaven.

  • edismeiamhe

    If the United States did not lose its honor,
    why does Obama keep bowing and scraping and apologizing to every foreign power?

    Certainly seems like Obama is convinced we lost it.

    Actually, I think we lost our honor when Obama masqueraded himself as a man of the people…a Christian and lover of our republic…when in fact he was a Muslim loving, social justice at any price socialist of the first water.

  • shepherdwong

    Actually, I think we lost our honor when Obama masqueraded himself as a man of the people…
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    No, that’s when we lost our shirts.
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    We last lost our honor when the last (“Christian”) Republican president attacked, invaded and occupied a Muslim country that was no threat to us and tortured and killed many of it’s citizens, men, women and children, for no earthly reason. That’s what losing your honor looks like. Shame you don’t seem to have any way to understand that.

  • edismeiamhe

    shepherdwong:

    Perhaps you have forgotten that we invaded Iraq to counter a madman dictator. A dictator who murdered thousands of his own people, a dictator that dragged the UN and its inspectors around by their noses for eight years while bragging about the stores of weapons of mass destruction that he possed.and that he was ready to use them.

    We invaded because our inteliigence on the situation coinsided with Intelligence from the Brits, Aussies, and other nations.

    You should be grateful that things turned out as they did. If Sadaam had the weapons he bragged about and used them. You might be learning camel husbandry, and living under Sharia law, or perhaps you already are.

  • sacredh

    “what will happen at the Beck resurrection and ascendancy to heaven.”
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    His brain will be resurrected and no longer be dead. The chances are slight so I’m saying highly doubtful. Ascendancy to heaven? Remember at the end of the movie “Ghost” when the bad guy buys the farm and the dark shadow spirits come up out of the floor and drag his soul down to hell as he screams? That’s where my money’s at.

  • earljr1

    Come on now. april, what would a self avowed atheist know about ascending into heaven? Your self loathing is abundantly apparent, but spare the Christians who read this blog your sanctimonious blather. It is also quite obvious that liberals are getting increasingly more worried and with good reason. America is turning a deaf ear to progressive politics and it really has you in a tither. Face up to it, eighteen months of clueless leadership, the economy stinks, the unemployment remains at and above 10%, we are 13 TRILLION dollars in debt and growing that debt at over one billion dollars per day! I would call this a major crisis, wouldn’t you? Meanwhile, your esteemed leader takes his SIXTH vacation in one year and remains aloof to the problems confronting our nation and its hard working citizens. Yes, indeed, you have EVERY reason to be worried, November is but three short months away!

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “Perhaps you have forgotten that we invaded Iraq to counter a madman dictator. A dictator who murdered thousands of his own people, a dictator that dragged the UN and its inspectors around by their noses for eight years while bragging about the stores of weapons of mass destruction that he possed.and that he was ready to use them.

    We invaded because our inteliigence [sic] on the situation coinsided [sic] with Intelligence from the Brits, Aussies, and other nations.”
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    So many errors.
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    “Perhaps you have forgotten that we invaded Iraq lead by a madman dictator [named George W. Bush]. [There was] A dictator who murdered thousands of his own people [paid for by the US tax payer during the Reagan administration], [George W. Bush].. dragged the UN and its inspectors around by their noses for [two] years while [making false claims that Husein had] stores of weapons of mass destruction that he possessed.and that he was ready to use them [and was tied to his actual arch enemy Osama bin Ladin].

    We invaded because our intelligence on the situation contradicted the Intelligence from the Brits, Aussies, and other nations since Bush demanded that the CIA provide the administration and the general public with even discredited information tying to tie Husein to bin Laden and WMD when there was no credible evidence.”
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    No, that is an accurate statement.
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    If you read Richard Clarke’s Against All Enemies and Bob Woodward’s Plan of attack, both released before our soldiers went into Iraq as well as articles from the NYTs, The Boston Globe and the Wall Street Journal, you would have known this in early 2003 before the St. Patrick’s Day invasion beginning our nation’s first illegal war of aggression.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    Rusty,
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    Be glad that liberals have a sense of humor.
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    If comics didn’t keep us laughing at you, I am sure that there would be some who would be very homicidal, instead.
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    Thank liberal comics whenever you get the chance since making your leaders out to be clowns is a far prettier light than you would, otherwise, be in.

  • http://patricksartor.wordpress.com patricksartor

    “…what would a self avowed atheist know about ascending into heaven?”
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    Earl, you are very easily confused, as usual.
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    First, Apr has a no reply to wingnut policy – and that means you, as one of the wingnuts. So, you know she will not respond.
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    Second, I am an atheist, but Apr is not. She is a non-denominational believer.
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    Besides generation, age group, being on opposite sides of the United States, you managed in your chronic mental haze to confuse me with her.
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    We were both, at different times, raised Catholic. I am an atheist who has no issues with the Catholic church. She is a believer who strongly feels that the Catholic Church was dysfunctional and not representing the will of god.
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    Your claim to have voted for Obama so that Obama would not keep his campaign promise for HCR and would keep McCain’s promise for tort reform totally blew your credibility out of the water including very strong doubts including disbelief that you are a doctor.
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    Dr. Earl, those anesthetics are for the patients only. Please don’t get high and post.
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    Drugs and politics don’t mix well.

  • 3xfire3

    husein11,
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    “Liberals are the true haters. They have a hatred for the United States and the only reason why they remain in the country, although they have no business being there, is to continue to live off the public dole. Liberals’ greatest fear is that someone will become President who won’t put up with their living off public assistance their entire life and they would have to get a job and dare be independent. Yikes, the horror of such a thing happening.”
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    Sounds like our liberals would be a perfect fit for living in Canada. I would be willing to do my part by donating to help with their move to Canada.

  • 3xfire3

    lizziefromcanada,
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    As an American of French descent I suggest you spend your time worrying about your own country and not about our great country.
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    When you bow down to the Queen next time remember Americans don’t bow down to anyone.
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    You live in a very Liberal governed country. In the USA liberals make up no more then 20% of our population and we would be more then happy to send them all to Canada.
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    Many liberals slipped in during the last election by deceiving people into thinking they were moderates. That lie has now been discovered and this November most will be voted out of office and sent back to the desert for another 40 years.
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    America is not Canada. We are a strongly independent people who believe in individual freedom not Socialism like most Canadians.
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    Goodbye. Hopefully we don’t hear from the likes of you anymore. We have enough Left Wing Loons here already.

  • michaelfury

    Beck & Co. are not “patriots”. They are mercenary, demagogic neo-fascists who lack the moral courage to face the reality of what has been done to them by their real masters and abusers. Their “revolution” has already been coopted by corporate militarism. As a consequence of their cowardice, everything gets worse from here.

    Which “special operations” weapons shop did this stuff come from, Mr. Beck?

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/the-rest-is-silence/

  • freeinpa

    Perhaps you have forgotten that we invaded Iraq lead by a madman dictator [named George W. Bush]. [There was] A dictator who murdered thousands of his own people [paid for by the US tax payer during the Reagan administration], [George W. Bush].. dragged the UN and its inspectors around by their noses for [two] years while [making false claims that Husein had] stores of weapons of mass destruction that he possessed.and that he was ready to use them [and was tied to his actual arch enemy Osama bin Ladin].

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    Who would have thought that there were no Democrats any where to be found during 3 Republican administrations? Or the Demos there were interested in nothing more than being a professional politician. I guess Kerry Clinton (both) among others who believed that Sadaam had WMDs were Republicans at the time.

    Just more revisionist delusions by a life time loser

  • 53_3

    Rusty:
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    I don’t really need to respond other than to point out that you are trying to argue away your own comments!
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    Good fjarkiing luck, Rusty.
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    Oh, and thanks for handing all that loose ammo…

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  • 53_3

    I’m guessing about 160k.
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    They aren’t densly packed…

  • 53_3

    BBC says “tens of thousands”:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11114172

  • nhautamaki

    Hey dude, we seem to be doing alright.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/15/interactive-infographic-of-the-worlds-best-countries.html

    I think it’s a little bit biased in your favour though. Notice how you only beat us in 1 metric on ‘Quality of Life’–consumption per capita. There was 1 tie, and everything else we were ahead on, and yet still they saw fit to put you 1 rank ahead on overall ‘Quality of Life’. In my opinion that’s a crock and the idea that consumption per capita is a major, overriding quality of life metric is part of what’s gotten our planet into such a mess in the first place.

    That said, we, and 9 other ‘extremely liberal’ countries came out ahead of you. How are the ‘right wing’ countries doing? Which countries would you even consider those to be by the way? I’m curious because Canada is to the right of most European countries, and most other countries in the world that could be considered to the right of America are failed states and dictatorships, so why do you consider yourselves in the middle?

    BTW if you don’t like those stats, feel free to use the UN’s Human Development Index.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

    Shuffles the top 10 around a bit and places the US two spots lower but ultimately it tells the same story of so called ‘leftist, ultra-liberal’ social philosophy providing a better quality of life to people in countries that are nevertheless much smaller in terms of population or military and economic clout.

    What kills me is that instead of looking at all these statistics and thinking there might just be something to them and maybe adjusting your viewpoints based upon how things have actually turned out in the real world, you’d much rather just make a few 200 year old monarchy cracks and set back satisfied in the certainty that fighting, dying, and killing for freedom is better than winning it peacefully.

    To all the rational Americans still here (I see fewer of you and often posting less regularly, and I see more right-wing trolls, that’s depressing) sorry if I come off anti-American. I’m not anti-America or anti-any country. I just find it frustrating to watch what really was the greatest country on Earth start slowly circling the drain. It’s damn depressing even to a non-US citizen =[

  • nhautamaki

    heh that preview box is pretty useless, isn’t it? Sorry for the lack of spacing =[

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  • husein11

    Fire, I too would donate. We have certainly “donated” enough over the years in our paying taxes to support their living off of public assistance, however, for the first time I would be happy to donate to get them the hell out of here. It would be a win-win as they would be leaving the country they hate. The only losers woul be Canadians.

  • sacredh

    “To be fair, the Washington Post is saying 400k:”
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    Let’s go with the higher number just for the sake of argument. Now let’s put this in context. It’s a beautiful summer day. It’s warm. A t-shirt is comfortable. How many turned out for Obama’s inauguartion? In the middle of winter. 4-5 times as many? How many could he have drawn if he’d been inaugurated on a beautiful summer day?

  • 53_3

    Let’s even do more, sacred:
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    If you had an opportunity to go somewhere, say, to DC, and a bus was waiting to take you, would you go?

  • 53_3

    foghorn:
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    Do you realize he’s starting to chip into his own base?
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    I mean, how many French aren’t white?
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    Hmmm. Maybe Rusty is heading for the “Aryan” definition…

  • 53_3

    hussein11, 3xfire3:
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    Thanks for the demonstration of egregious butt-sniffing.
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    At least I now know that dogs aren’t the only ones who do it…

  • sacredh

    53_3: If a bus was waiting and would have taken me to the inauguration, I would have went in a heartbeat, even during the winter. I wouldn’t go for anything else. If the dates were reversed, how many Tea Baggers would have gone to this shindig during the middle of the winter?

  • Ivy_B

    nhautamaki, it is a feature of WordPress. The spacing looks normal in preview, but isn’t in Reply to mode. It is fine in an original comment, but not Reply to.
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    To correct you need to insert a character (we have generally taken up a period but any one will do) at the beginning of any space you insert. Like so.
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    Cheers

  • 53_3

    freeinpa:
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    Do you think none of us were around during the Iraq war?
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    I remember clearly that the first “reason” we were there was because Saddam had WMD.
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    Then, when the Iraq Survey failed to find any, that is when the reason we were there was to root out Al-Queda.
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    And, wouldn’t you know it, after a “major terrorist training camp” in certain photos was revealed to be outside the northern no-fly zone, in Kurdish controlled territory finally put paid to that one, too.
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    It was only then, after desperately scrabbling for a reason why we did it did he hit on the “liberation” angle.*
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    *All three “reasons” were played from time to time, but there were specific periods where specific “reasons” came to the fore.

  • 53_3

    I scared to guess. How warm is the bus? Does it have free beer nuts and bbq?
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    Just FYI, I finally saw the appropriate place for the Obama-as-a-Muslim rumor:
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    On the front page of National Enquirer! Go look for yourself!
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    Now, just what does that say about the GOP…

  • shepherdwong

    Perhaps you have forgotten that we invaded Iraq to counter a madman dictator.
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    No, I remember that lie. Here’s what the architects’ said were the reasons at the beginning or the marketing campaign:

    It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil will all be put at hazard.

    So, Israel, Saudi Arabia and oil (what “American troops in the region” were there to protect). Though they could have been lying then too, it’s what they do. But only a complete idiot would take the “counter a madman dictator” excuse at face value, considering our continued relationship with other murderous oligarchies (the House of Saud), dictatorships (Pakistan) and rogue WMD states (Israel), whom we called “allies” and shipped billions of US dollars to support their regimes. Thanks for the remider though.

  • 3xfire3

    michaelfury,
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    I’ve been wondering who this Michael Fury guy is that keeps posting stuff of swampland and referring his Blog.
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    He usually makes kind of crazy statements than leaves a link to his personal Blog.
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    Out of curiosity I clicked on his blog to see what was there.
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    The first story on his Blog was this crazy stuff below.
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    Nice to know the guys a real Loon so I have no need to read his posts anymore.
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    Michael Fury’s Blog
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    “Interviewer: International researchers have found traces of explosives among the World Trade Center rubble. A new scientific article concludes that impacts from the two hijacked aircraft did not cause the collapses in 2001.

    We turn our attention to 9/11: the major attack in New York. Apparently the two airplane impacts did not cause the towers to collapse, according to a newly published scientific article. Researchers found nano-thermite explosive in the rubble, that cannot have come from the planes. They believe several tonnes of explosives were placed in the buildings in advance.

    Niels Harrit, you and eight other researchers conclude in this article, that it was nano-thermite that caused these buildings to collapse. What is nano-thermite?”

  • 3xfire3

    nhautamak,
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    Canada is the one going down the tube. There are some great people in Canada and I wish them well. It’s too bad that there are so many Loons like you who have been able to put in a Socialist Government and ruin the country for the rest of these honorable people.
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    As far as Canada’s rating in Newsweek keep in mind that Newsweek is a bankrupt liberal Rag.
    Few Americans believe anything that is printed in this piece of trash. That’s why their subscriptions are so low that even their owners the very liberal Washington Post through in the towel and gave them away.
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    I’m really sorry to see the mess you Liberals have made of Canada. I hate to see a great country going down the drain.

  • edismeiamhe

    shepherddwong,

    As one idiot to another…have a great day *</;=}}

  • 3xfire3

    Another liberal who doesn’t understand the greatness of our Country.
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    A dirt poor black man from Haiti or a Latino from Mexico can immigrate to American and work very hard, as all immigrants before them have, and within one generation his family can achieve a middle or upper class standard of living. No place on earth offers as great of an opportunity to achieve ones dreams as the USA.
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    My great, great grandparents did it when they immigrated in 1852. They also were dirt poor when that arrived. It took them 4 generations to achieve a middle class standard of living.
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    My experience has been that people who come here from a country that does not have a social welfare system, have such strong work ethics that they achieve a middle class standard of living within one generation.
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    it appears that many American citizens who have grown up participating in our social welfare systems find it satisfying enough that they don’t have the desire or work ethics to do the work to achieve a higher standard of living.
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    Before all you people start calling me a racist you must understand that there are more whites on welfare then there are blacks.
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    Race is not the issue. It is a learned work ethics that many on welfare don’t possess.
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    I have several relatives that fit into this category. My wife’s younger sister was in this category. We were always sending her money to help out thinking it would give her the opportunity to improve her life style. We finely realized her ambitions were not the same as ours. She died of lung cancer last year.
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    I have a 24 year old niece that is participating in 5 or 6 different welfare and government programs. Two out of wedlock children and a live in boy friend and she has never worked a day in her life. She’s on total disability because of something supposedly with her legs but she walks around just fine and certainly could work at a desk job.
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    When I was in Africa 2 years ago the ambition and attitude of the poor was amazing. 60% unemployment but they found ways to survive. They were very creative in finding ways to earn enough money to take care of their families.
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    My wife and I shared a meal with a family in a stick built hut. Joseph the father rented 1 acre of land and grew enough to barter and feed his family. He and his wife have 5 girls. My wife and I have been sponsoring two of them to get an education. One just graduated from a 2 year technical college and the other is 8 and in the 3rd grade. They are wonderful people.
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    The other 3 girls also have American sponsors for there education.

  • 3xfire3

    Apr,
    .
    You have it wrong. You and your Liberal friends are the Haters.
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    Most Republicans and Conservatives love their fellow man and woman. They may disagree with the political views of people on the left of our political system but they do not hate them personally.
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    You especially and your Liberal friends are the Haters. You hate your fellow American citizens because they do not believe your Liberal/Progressive politics is in the best interest of our citizens. They believe the Conservative and Moderate approachs will help more of our citizens then your progressive policies ever will.
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    Even though these Republicans and Conservatives do not hate you and your Liberal friends personally you and most of your friend hate them personally. Your post are full of personal hatred towards those that don’t agree with your L/P Views.
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    I disagree strongly disagree with you and your friends politics but I and most R/C do not hate you because of them.
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    You personally are always demonizing R/C leaders.
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    Why do you and your friends have so much Hate in your hearts? Maybe your political views are not right. You’re not God and you are fallible.

  • nhautamaki

    “As far as Canada’s rating in Newsweek keep in mind that Newsweek is a bankrupt liberal Rag.”
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    Really, that’s all you have? Everything you disagree with is a ‘liberal Rag’ but by the standards of the rest of the world, Newsweek is right wing. It isn’t liberal at all except maybe compared to Red State and other far-right publications. The idea that Newsweek is liberal is already thrown out by the fact that it uses modern day conservative ideas about consumption to justify giving America a ranking 2 places higher than the more neutral UN Human Growth Index. If you disagree with that too then the burden is on you to find a more reliable source that uses actual objective measurements and not just ideological rhetoric to make the case that the US is actually still the best place in the world to be born in.
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    The figures are very simple and very hard to dispute: average income, literacy rate, infant mortality rate, average life expectancy, and so on. So what do you think? Those numbers mean nothing because they don’t paint the picture you want, or that everyone is lying?
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    The problem with trying to communicate with people that think like you is that you don’t adjust your beliefs based on actual facts. You will only adjust your beliefs based on something that affects you emotionally. Nothing I say, nothing I show you of a factual nature can possibly change your mind. Only some kind of great personal tragedy could ever do that. It puts people like me at a great disadvantage because I can actually change my mind based on new facts. If you can actually prove something to me, factually and logically, it will cause me to re-evaluate my position. The same does not hold true for you and so this whole exchange is completely pointless, which is why I haven’t bothered posting here in almost 2 years.

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