Rosty and Rangel

I don’t know how many Americans will note the death of former Chicago Congressman Dan Rostenkowski, but it comes at a symbolically ominous moment for Democrats, who are already trying to beat back a Republican narrative about corruption on Capitol Hill. As House Ways and Means chairman, Rosty was a jowly titan of the 1980s Democratic House, the kind of guy who made lunch at the Palm famous, until he was toppled (and later imprisoned) for having used his perch for (often remarkably petty: free lawn moving?) personal gain. After symbolizing Democratic power, Rosty came to symbolize the corruption of the House Democratic machine, and his 1994 indictment and resignation certainly turbo-charged the Republican takeover of Congress that fall.

Lately Republicans had already been trying to liken Rosty to another heavyweight Democratic Ways and Means chairman facing ethics charges, Charlie Rangel, and perhaps the two men will be similarly remembered. At a minimum, it’s fascinating to watch this 1994 ABC News clip of Rangel commenting on Rostenkowski’s troubles.

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  • nflfoghorn

    No way does this appear to end well for Charlie.

  • sacredh

    “free lawn moving”

    Was his lawn really so nice that he to take it with him?

  • newfreedomblog

    Do you really think that Rangel will have anything more than a good finger swatting with a ruler by Sr Nancy Olga Pelosi?
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    Why not report on more relevant things, like Harry Reid’s recent statement where he cannot believe anyone of Hispanic heritage would ever associate themselves with the Republican Party or Conservatives.
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    Here is what one Cuban/American who also happens to be Conservative had to say to good ‘ol Harry boy.
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    http://cubachi.com/2010/08/11/harry-reid-cant-believe-im-a-hispanic-republican/
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    I do believe she ripped ‘ol Harry a new one!! :)
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    Enjoy!!

  • square1

    and speaking of John Ensign…

  • m0mentom0ri

    “Do you really think that Rangel will have anything more than a good finger swatting with a ruler by Sr Nancy Olga Pelosi?”
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    Which would be more punishment that Vitter has received from the GOP leadership.
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    Or do you not care about morally bankrupt Republicans, Rusty?
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    (Also: “Olga”? What does that even mean? You’re petty insults are becoming obscure, Rusty.)

  • nflfoghorn

    MM, liberals are too weak intellectually to challenge his superior brain. Didn’t you know that??

  • newfreedomblog

    Oh heck momento, bask in the sunlight. Even bad press they say is good press. Just because Gibbs acts like some little school girl who had her books knocked out of her hands going down the hallway, doesn’t mean we can’t pick on Demo-dimwits like your pals, Harry, Nancy, Barry, and good time Charlie!!
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    One of these days maybe things will get better again, I just wouldn’t hold my breath tho if I were you.
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    LOL!!
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    And morally speaking, I could give a big fat rat’s a$$ what someone does in or out of their bedroom or a whorehouse. Since when do you as a far left loon even care? Oh that’s right, when you can put down one of them for not holding true to some fictional belief you have that they must all be morally up-standing individuals like Mother Teresa. Well guess what Einstein, there are just as many morally bankrupt Repubs and Conservatives as Democrats. That is called human nature.
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  • m0mentom0ri

    “There are just as many morally bankrupt Repubs and Conservatives as Democrats”
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    I’m going to consider that a step forward, Rusty…
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    “Demo-dimwits”, “far left loon”, “little school girl”, “Einstein”
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    …and that would be two steps backward. Civility, Rusty. Give it a try sometime.

  • newfreedomblog

    Why don’t you practice what you preach mr momento. I am confident anyone can read back through all the old threads and see YOU have attacked me first on many many many occassions. Perhaps you can first talk to your own kind, yes those Demo-dimwits who want to continually harass other republicans and conservatives on this site. Then perhaps we can discuss how “civil” we are to each other.

  • http://lookinfromoutside.wordpress.com lookinfromoutside

    The thing is… nobody is speaking about John Ensign. O.O

  • kevin

    Why should they?
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    Ensign’s just a family values politician who was caught having an affair with his staffer’s wife and then asked his mommy and daddy to pay the couple $90,000 in hush money, which they did, resulting in a criminal investigation by the FBI.
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    I mean, where’s the interesting aspect to all that?

  • mycophile

    whenever someone says that they don’t care what anyone does in their bedroom or a whorehouse, I have to wonder which side of the fence they sat on in judgement of Bill Clinton’s conduct with Monika?

  • mycophile

    newfreedomblog~

    although I have not read every post you ever made here, my memory tells me that the overwhelming majority of the times that you have been in a spitting match here, it was you that started it with your wording.
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    maybe not with momenti, if you say so. And maybe my memory fails me. But I have a challenge for you. Stop using invectives and character slurs for 30 days, and see if everyone follows suit with you or not. If you truly are the adult in the room, take the adult’s role, instead of stooping to the child’s

  • newfreedomblog

    Apparently mycoPHILE, you have not been on this site long, as you would know I have already tried to do just that.
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    But, in true Democrat / Liberal / Progressive form, they can’t hold to any bargains or anything resembling civil adult discussions.
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    Perhaps you should take on your own kind and put them down for doing it first. Maybe then they will listen to you.

  • mycophile

    newfreedomblog~
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    First of all, you make an assumptions about what “kind” I am. I do not consider myself to be the same kind as anyone who easily gets into spit fights with you, nor demeans anyone’s character except under very specific circumstances. You might even recall that my reaction to your style when I first came to Swampland during the Beck/Jesus days was not to join you in it, but, rather, to inform you that I would no longer be responding to any of your posts, and I have kept that word until I saw evidence of a different voice just recently in a particular thread (and I posted that observation.) Depending on how this goes, I may return to my previous silence, but I hope I don’t end up feeling that way again.
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    Secondly, I have, and will continue, like a broken record, to trumpet my opinion of and plea to all commenters here to resist character slurs. Perhaps you have not read my various pleas. Or my admittings of my own transgressions But I am not some kind of Messiah that everyone will follow just because I spoke Word. I can no more be surely successful at riding herd on people who identify more with me than you can on people who identify more with you. It is up to them to see the value in it for themselves. If I can help them do that, great, but I am only one person with an opinion about it.
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    Which is one reason why I tried to get you to try (again, you would say) — I need help. sacredh and 3xfirex and seem others seem to like the idea. It’s going to take a group effort, and/or persistence, and/or perseverance.
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    Thirdly, I’ll believe you that you tried already. Thank you for taking my opening to educate me further about your track-record. It bolsters my resolve to continue to suggest that you try again, now, and do so for a longer stretch of time than you did before. I suggested 30 days, because that would give time for everyone to recognize it was sincere, and not just a mood swing or attention lapse. I suggest that whenever someone either purposefully or carelessly or sloppily responds to you or initiates bad behavior, that you find the strength not to get sucked in to reacting to it in kind. Either completely ignore it, or else, at the most, express your regrets that they expressed themselves in that way, remind them that you are on a mission not to feed into that energy, and ask them to please clarify what their point was if it was not trying to engage in a brawl. If they clarify, thank them and respond with your opinion, also without slur. That is what I meant by being the adult in the conversation, but really it is just helping one another have an easier time being heard, which increases mutual respect, instead of divisiveness. We are Americans, we are people. We have more in common than not. We need all our collective shoulders to the wheel to right the wrongs of this world. Divided we fall. Who do you think benefits from us commonfolk fighting amongst ourselves? Not us.
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    But maybe that sounds too Kumbya to you. I hope not. To me, it is just what I have learned from experience about what works, and what does not.
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    Fourthly, “But, in true Democrat / Liberal / Progressive form, they can’t hold to any bargains or anything resembling civil adult discussions” is an example, to me, of a different kind of devisiveness than outright slur, but just as poisonous, because it is polarizing. It is NOT groups of people who are the culprits, but individuals. I doubt that you really mean to infer that there are not also a lot individuals with that same failing that you or they themselves might say were in the “Republican / Conservative / Free Market” camp , because that just would not be true. But by phrasing it they way you did, it appeared to claim so. And I think you knew that. But you let yourself do it, anyway.
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    That’s not a criticism. It is a statement of my opinion about what I observed. I did not say I thought you were that behavior. I did not say I thought you were a person who always and only exhibits that behavior. I said I thought you did so this time. And that is because I recognize it as a human behavior, which the motivations to engage in can exist in any one of us, because i have seen it in myself. I assume you, as I, are capable of making different choices, as long as you heighten your awareness the choices to be made.
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    Let me be extra clear here. I consider it to be just as devisive ,counter-productive, and emotion-bating when anyone similarly criticizes “Republicans”, or any group label. It rally would be best if all would cease, but this is a vast nation, and we are only a few of us. Movements start small and take time, and none of them are guaranteed success.
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    Anyone could think, after all this soapboxing, me a starry-eyed idealist, tilting at a windmill. But I believe it may have been Winston Churchill who said something like:”Never doubt for a minute that a small, dedicated group of people can change the world — indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
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    Ready to try?
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    Ready?

  • vintel7

    This article is lame. What is the author trying to do? Push people’s buttons? It is simple. Republicans deeply damaged this country over the period 1998-2008. Republicans represent a much lower evolved mentality and understanding. Republicans lack empathy and compassion and hence why they love war, killing, guns, and false fundamentalist religions. Americans would be committing national suicide if they returned republicans to a majority in Congress. Climate Change is accelerating and is already producing cataclysmic effects (Russia, Greenland Ice Shelf, ) with republicans…nothing will be done to curb emissions. Humans will be killing each other for clean water in 4-5 years.

  • neopatetic

    @ mycophile (August 11, 2010 at 8:22 pm)

    Her name was and is Monica Lewinsky. It is a matter of judgment: I, too, give not a fig what anyone else does in their bedroom or a whorehouse. At least, that is as far as behavior between consenting adults that harms no one else, is inflicted upon no one else and is not inherently non-consensual, like that between an adult and a child, between a human and some other form of life, or between, to name but one other example, between a CEO and an intern, because of the extreme power inequity. Then, there is the issue of whose house it is (given that Slick owned not even a single house at the time). Let us not forget, either, that he was on the taxpayers’ time, and not just the people’s property, by which I do not mean to refer to Ms. Lewinsky’s lips, nor to that upon which she fastened them, relevantly.

  • neopatetic

    @ vintel7 (August 12, 2010 at 10:43 am)

    By taking what specific actions is it that you assert “Republicans deeply damaged this country over the period 1998-2008″? Was it all Republicans, or just those in Federal elective office? How do you feel about the Independents and Democrats who voted for Republicans? Not only that, but during the period from January 1, 1998 until George W. Bush was sworn into office in January of 2001, Bill Clinton was President, so it is at least somewhat unclear as to what, exactly, you are referring.

    What are your professional qualifications to present us with your conclusion that, “Republicans represent a much lower evolved mentality and understanding”? Of what? Than whom? Based on what evidence?

    Next, you say that, “Republicans lack empathy and compassion and hence why they love war, killing, guns, and false fundamentalist religions.” I regret that you choose to attack the First Amendment protection for freedom of religion and the Second Amendment protection for the right to bear arms. What other parts of the Constitution do you detest and wish to see stripped away?

    Then, too, it is simply silly to assert that Republicans as a group love war or killing. It was a Democrat, Woodrow Wilson, who took us into World War i. It was a Democrat, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who took us into WWII (after saying he would not). It was a Democrat, Harry Truman, who is to this very day the only head of state ever to have authorized the use of nuclear weapons against another nation, and who took us into Korea. It was a Democrat, John Kennedy, who took us to the Bay of Pigs. It was a Democrat, Lyndon Johnson, who vastly expanded the war his predecessor, JFK, got us involved in, in Vietnam. It was a Democrat, Bill Clinton, who was responsible for the fighting in Somalia, in which the infamous Black Hawk Down incident occurred, and who got us into the war in the Balkans. He also fired cruise missiles at Saddam Hussein. It is at least a lie of omission to make such an assertion as you did.

    Worse still was the egregious falsehood that in some way, “Republicans lack empathy and compassion.” You apparently confuse a willingness to spend Croesus-like sums with those feelings. Republicans believe in helping those who cannot help themselves. Democrats believe in helping themselves to your money.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703787904575403630779178398.html

    Republicans believe that poor people hire very few workers. Republicans believe in the Opportunity Society for all. Democrats, who claim to love jobs, have this strange hate for those who create them.

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2009/01/30/4426245-first-100-days-obama-vs-wall-street

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    http://theweek.com/article/index/204693/is-obama-anti-business

    Democrats squabble over medical benefits for an entire class of people, many of whom may have no need for them at all, while millions are out of work, losing their homes and losing their cars.

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    Don’t you think rhetoric such as, “Americans would be committing national suicide if they returned republicans to a majority in Congress” just a tad extreme? Have you ever known anyone who committed suicide?Do you spend a lot of time in suicidal ideation, as you contemplate the enormous victory Republicans seem very likely to win over Democrats this November? Please do not do anything rash or crazy. Seek professional help: it only seems as terrible as you apparently think it is. I have had two close relatives attempt suicide, so I know a bit about it — enough to empathize with you and evince compassion for you in your obvious pain, angst, frustration and depression.

    “Climate Change is accelerating and is already producing cataclysmic effects (Russia, Greenland Ice Shelf, ) with republicans…nothing will be done to curb emissions. Humans will be killing each other for clean water in 4-5 years”? Oh, please! You would think no ice had ever calved from a glacier before! You would think the ice berg that the Titanic ran into was the only one that had ever found its way into the North Atlantic! You’d think there has never been a drought in Russia!

    Here is an inescapable fact: for most of President Obama’s time in office so far, he has had large majorities in both houses of Congress. He even had 60 votes in the Senate. He and they could have passed anything they wanted to in terms of climate change legislation, but they failed to do so.

    Do you know why they failed, when they didn’t need a single Republican vote, had they simply all stayed together? Here it is: they couldn’t find the votes in the Senate, primarily. Why couldn’t they? The answer is short and simple: the environmental extremists were unwilling to compromise with the folks whose constituents have been losing jobs in the millions. The environmental extremists want to kill oil, gas and coal in this country, which would cost millions of jobs more, when this is already one of the worst economic downturns this country has ever seen. Somehow, they failed utterly to persuade those energy-state Senate Democrats to commit political suicide.

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